ANN: RealThinClient SDK OpenSource Newsgroups
Danijel Tkalcec
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Best Regards,
Danijel Tkalcec, Team RTC
http://www.realthinclient.com
Kevin Powick
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Hi Danijel,
As usual, just looking for clarification. On 24 April you were asking
users of the Open Source RTC SDK for 49 Euro if they wished to register
for access to the web forums. Has that idea been discontinued? If
not, then what is the difference between this new nttp group and the
web forums? BTW, I thought the Open Source version of the RTC SDK was
peer supported by SourceForge forums. Have those forums been
discontinued?
Sorry if I'm a little confused, but peer support options have been all
over the place. You started off with your own NNTP server, then went
to Google Groups, then switched to your own in-house developed forums,
added next was the SourceForge forum, and now we have a new NNTP option.
Please let me know which options are open, which are closed, and which
ones people should be using for what.
One more thing, is any of this related to what I see on your website as
RTC SDK 3.0 Professional? At this time, is it possible for you to
comment on the relationship and differences between the OS and upcoming
Pro (commercial) versions of RTC SDK?
Thanks,
--
Kevin Powick
Danijel Tkalcec
>
> As usual, just looking for clarification. On 24 April you were asking
> users of the Open Source RTC SDK for 49 Euro if they wished to register
> for access to the web forums. Has that idea been discontinued? If
> not, then what is the difference between this new nttp group and the
> web forums?
RTC Support Forums are for direct support from the RTC Team,
while Open Source Newsgroups are for free peer-to-peer support.
> BTW, I thought the Open Source version of the RTC SDK was
> peer supported by SourceForge forums. Have those forums been
> discontinued?
SourceForge Forums were not accepted by the community
(not a single post in months), so they have been discontinued.
> Please let me know which options are open, which are closed, and which
> ones people should be using for what.
Newsgroups are for free peer-to-peer support:
news://news.realthinclient.org
RTC Support Forums are for direct support:
http://www.realthinclient.com/forum
> One more thing, is any of this related to what I see on your website as
> RTC SDK 3.0 Professional?
OpenSource Newsgroups are only related to the RTC SDK Open Source edition
and offer developers using the free components a place to help each other
without having to pay anything. This has nothing to do with components under
a working title "RTC SDK 3.0 Professional" (name could be changed before
components release).
> At this time, is it possible for you to
> comment on the relationship and differences between the OS and upcoming
> Pro (commercial) versions of RTC SDK?
Sorry, but this information is still confidential.
There will be a public announcement when the new components are ready.
Johann Campbell
"Kevin Powick" <nos...@spamless.com> wrote in message
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> One more thing, is any of this related to what I see on your website as
> RTC SDK 3.0 Professional? At this time, is it possible for you to
> comment on the relationship and differences between the OS and upcoming
> Pro (commercial) versions of RTC SDK?
Huh? RTC is going back to a commercial state?
Johann
Danijel Tkalcec
No. What we are currently calling "RTC SDK 3.0 Pro" will be an extension to
the Open Source version of the RTC SDK, not a replacement.
Johann Campbell
OS'ed?
Johann.
"Danijel Tkalcec" <r...@deltasoft.hr> wrote in message
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Danijel Tkalcec
> Oh, but it comes at a price though? IE, the professional version is not
> OS'ed?
The RTC SDK Professional edition is being made for developers and companies
with requirements which can not be met by the Open Source edition, while the
Open Source RTC SDK edition continues being the fundament on which the
Professional RTC SDK edition and all other commercial RTC components are
being built on.
To be more precise, anyone who is fine with the featureset available in the
Open Source RTC SDK edition will not need the Professional RTC SDK edition,
while all current and future commercial RTC components (RTC Portal and RTC
WAF) continue working with the Open Source RTC SDK edition as well as with
the Professional edition. The only difference between the two RTC SDK
editions will be their featureset.
Kevin Powick
> Oh, but it comes at a price though? IE, the professional version is
> not OS'ed?
A little OT: You imply that OS means free, as in no cost. I wish
people didn't think like this. Nowhere in the definition of OS
software, nor the various associated licenses (GPL, etc) does it say
that an author or redistributing party cannot charge a fee for OS
software.
--
Kevin Powick
Johann Campbell
Johann
"Kevin Powick" <nos...@spamless.com> wrote in message
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Danijel Tkalcec
> Johann Campbell wrote:
>
>> Oh, but it comes at a price though? IE, the professional version is
>> not OS'ed?
>
> A little OT: You imply that OS means free, as in no cost.
Most don't even read the license agreement if says "Open Source". I doubt
many developers using the Open Source RTC SDK edition understand that they
have obligations if they use the components in their applications. As it
says in the BSD license of the RTC SDK Open Source edition, redistribution
and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are
permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
-> (1) Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
-> (2) Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
-> (3) Neither the name of Danijel Tkalcec nor the names of its contributors
may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
without specific prior written permission.
Danijel Tkalcec
> Ok.
Another aspect of the RTC SDK Professional edition will be that developers
using the Professional edition of the RTC SDK edition will NOT need to
mention the use of components in their applications nor documentation -
unless they want to. I can imagine that some licensed RTC SDK users who have
paid for the commercial components chose to NOT update their package to the
latest Open Source RTC SDK edition because they do not want to advertise the
use of the components in their applications. Having the option to get the
latest RTC SDK updates and new features under a commercial license will
eliminate the "advertisement" requirement on their part.