Linux Surprise & Delphi 5
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Delphi and the Linux/BSD web hosting platform
http://z505.com/videos/d5/linux-delphi-webapp.htm
Mirror:
http://iknow.z505.com/vid/linux-delphi-webapp.htm
Or should I say Delphi and the Mozilla platform.
Gil
xalion
> Looks good, I like the Web Based Compiler Studio kit
>
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Dennis Landi
"L" <L...@z505.com> wrote in message news:474988fd$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
This idiot actually stole Codegear's website and put it in his demo; and
then actually says in his demo that he stole the site?
wow.
-d
yannis
He stole nothing. He just show how things work in the lib. Even if he
was to actually create a site with an iframe /frame what ever to show
the CodeGear site I do not see the problem as long as proper
unkowldgement is given which it has.
regards
Yannis.
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
> This idiot actually stole Codegear's website and put it in his demo;
> and then actually says in his demo that he stole the site?
>
> wow.
I'd say "wow" to anyone who took it literally.
--
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
L
>
> This idiot
That you may indeed be correct about.. I admit.
> actually stole Codegear's website and put it in his demo; and
> then actually says in his demo that he stole the site?
I didn't mean to steal the site I just wanted to show an example of how
to do an http request.. it is very useful for example RSS feeds or
parsing other sites for data.. For drama, I used codegears site as the
target to do an http 'GET' request. I could have used Microsoft's site
which I think would have been even funnier..
I apologize for using the word 'stole'.
I apologize to borland/codegear if it caused any confusion too.. but
this should in fact help codegear because it is free advertising for them.
Each time your web browser downloads a site, you are essentially doing
the same thing.. it is just an HTTP Get request (and sometimes a POST
request).
I also don't plan just to have this plugin working in Delphi 5, I want
to work hard to get it working on all the newest versions of codegear's
tools, and turbo delphi, so that it promotes more sales and publicity
for codegear.
In the next video I may parse somebody's site and show the fast html
parser in use (pwfasthtmparser.pas).
L505
L
> Looks good, I like the Web Based Compiler Studio kit
>
>
It is cute.. maybe even a gimmick.. and it needs more features ;-)
It can be used in emergency in case no other options are available, sort
of like how people use PhpMyAdmin to access MySQL when they have no
other better options (and people end up using it anyway, even if they do
have other options.. such as MySql Administrator, which by the way is a
delphi written program AFAIK).
Bee (from Beeography) suggested we make an AJAX editor..
Or reuse and existing AJAX editor like this:
http://codepress.org/
Dennis Landi
"L" <L...@z505.com> wrote in message news:474c80c1$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Dennis Landi wrote:
>>
>> This idiot
>
> That you may indeed be correct about.. I admit.
>
>> actually stole Codegear's website and put it in his demo; and then
>> actually says in his demo that he stole the site?
>
> I didn't mean to steal the site I just wanted to show an example
You can't just grab a copyrighted corporate website and put it in your demo.
I'd certainly be pissed off if you stole my site. There is plenty of free
content out there for you to grab.
One I like to use for demoes is the sample page at
http://www.csszengarden.com/
-d
Brian Moelk
> Delphi and the Linux/BSD web hosting platform
You're using Free Pascal's compiler; I'm not sure what exactly you have
here beyond an IDE plugin and a few libraries. This is pretty much the
continuation of PSP isn't it?
> Or should I say Delphi and the Mozilla platform.
I also don't see much leveraging the Mozilla *platform*. Hitting a cgi
based webpage isn't using the Mozilla platform.
--
Brian Moelk
Brain Endeavor LLC
bmo...@NObrainSPAMendeavorFOR.MEcom
Olivier Pons
> This idiot actually stole Codegear's website and put it in his demo; and
Dave Nottage has made a very clever answer, but the way you wrote your post
just made me think you didn't get the point.
Did you read about the topic named "So Long and Thanks for all the Fish!" ?
Did you notice that a guy who is really good at programming *and* helped us
a lot just quits because of such comments ?
How about "Isn't the Codegear's website copyrighted ?"
Just be simple, maybe funny, but *not* mean.
This is not good *at* *all* for CodeGear and the future.
--
Olivier Pons
http://olivier.pons.free.fr/
Iv
"Dennis Landi" <na...@nada.com> wrote in message
news:474b...@newsgroups.borland.com...
L
> L wrote:
>> Delphi and the Linux/BSD web hosting platform
>
> You're using Free Pascal's compiler; I'm not sure what exactly you have
> here beyond an IDE plugin and a few libraries. This is pretty much the
> continuation of PSP isn't it?
>
No libraries.. static linking.
The real hot thing about it is that there is just drag and drop
deployment from windows to linux without actually owning any linux
computer or running any linux computer in my office. Nor are there any
complex cross compilations going on.
>> Or should I say Delphi and the Mozilla platform.
>
> I also don't see much leveraging the Mozilla *platform*. Hitting a cgi
> based webpage isn't using the Mozilla platform.
>
Ha, platform is a vague buzzword and is intended as humor.
I shall maybe create a mozilla application framework demo though.
L
> "L" <L...@z505.com> wrote in message
news:474c80c1$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> Dennis Landi wrote:
>>> This idiot
>> That you may indeed be correct about.. I admit.
>>
>>> actually stole Codegear's website and put it in his demo; and then
>>> actually says in his demo that he stole the site?
>> I didn't mean to steal the site I just wanted to show an example
>
> You can't just grab a copyrighted corporate website and put it in
your demo.
> I'd certainly be pissed off if you stole my site. There is plenty of
free
> content out there for you to grab.
I simply downloaded the HTML. Googlebot, PROMT, and babelfish do this
all the time. Proxy websites like anonomyzer do this too.. where you can
view the website through a proxy first.
What would be bad is if I stole the code on the server that ran the
site. In the video I clearly stated that I was jokingly stealing the
site.. even though I was not stealing anything and was just adding http
comedy into the video to keep people interested. People on these
newsgroups know the look and feel of codegear's site, they don't
necessarily know a random site I pick out of a hat.
Every time google downloads codegear's site and puts it on the search
engine they are indexing copyrighted content. Consider that Z505 is just
a search engine indexing codegear's site and happened to show you one of
our search engine indexing bots using an httpget request.
Babelfish translators, PROMT translaters, and google translators
download the html (steal the site) without anyone's permission:
When you use google try clicking on 'cached' and 'translate this page'.
No where did many of these sites ever tell google that they could take
their content and translate it and cache it.. robots.txt is not a
whitelist, it is a blacklist. Google is profiting off other people's
content with thier adwords without permission.. it is a blacklist based
permission system which is like saying 'you can rob our bank because our
bank doesn't have a robots.txt sign on the front window. As long as we
don't have a sign in the window, our bank will be robbed daily'.
I have argued about this on wikipedia about google stealing Wikipedia
content and putting it into their DEFINE: TERM tool without giving any
indication of the GNU free documentation license at the bottom of their
page, or without mentioning the content is licensed under GNU FDL. SO I
know what you are arguing and where you are coming from. Just consider
my video a bit of programmer humor and free advertising for borland's
cool red site.
>
> One I like to use for demoes is the sample page at
> http://www.csszengarden.com/
>
> -d
>
>
Looking quickly, there is no explicit public domain license on that site
which in many countries makes it not right to copy without explicit
permission from csszengarden.com. But I didn't look enough. Since that
is a dot com domain, I assume it is commercial.
Laugh and smile,
Lars
Brian Moelk
> No libraries.. static linking.
libraries can be statically linked.
> The real hot thing about it is that there is just drag and drop
> deployment from windows to linux without actually owning any linux
> computer or running any linux computer in my office. Nor are there any
> complex cross compilations going on.
So you've hooked up Free Pascal in a CGI?
Jouni Aro
Exactly! Go on with your library, Lars!
d r
they are obviously insulting and against the newsgroup policies.
Thank you
DR
d r
Thank you
DR
L
> L wrote:
>> No libraries.. static linking.
>
> libraries can be statically linked.
>
>> The real hot thing about it is that there is just drag and drop
>> deployment from windows to linux without actually owning any linux
>> computer or running any linux computer in my office. Nor are there any
>> complex cross compilations going on.
>
> So you've hooked up Free Pascal in a CGI?
>
The compiler runs on a server and talks to the CGI.. yes..