Phased .net 2/3

Paul Dexter

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Feb 23, 2007, 8:06:51 AM2/23/07

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Seems .net is delayed again, maybe CG could consider phased deployment of .net 2/3, first (asap) the compiler for pure .net winforms etc, later the vcl.net?

thx PaulD

Philo

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Feb 23, 2007, 12:53:54 PM2/23/07

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2.o was to be two years ago, oops M$ was late. Then promised for last
year, no could not do it, too complicated. Then promised again for
this go-around, nope. The back of my t must so "Promise him anything
and he will re up on SA" Looks like I need to burn that t and get on
with life with a different vendor.

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Nick Hodges (CodeGear)

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Feb 23, 2007, 1:44:44 PM2/23/07

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Philo wrote:

> Then promised again for
> this go-around, nope.

First, we didn't promise anything.

Second, we said we promised it mid-2007. That's when it should be
here, just like we said.

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Philo

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Feb 23, 2007, 6:05:14 PM2/23/07

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Nick Hodges (CodeGear) wrote:

> Philo wrote:
>
> > Then promised again for
> > this go-around, nope.
>
> First, we didn't promise anything.

Ok, maybe roadmaps are not promises but users have to rely on something.

>
> Second, we said we promised it mid-2007. That's when it should be
> here, just like we said.

Thanks, that I have not seen anywhere.

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Nick Hodges (CodeGear)

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Feb 23, 2007, 6:28:11 PM2/23/07

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Philo wrote:

> Ok, maybe roadmaps are not promises but users have to rely on
> something.

SOrry to be hyper about that, but we categorically /can't/ promise
anything. Just have to be clear on that. I understand you guys rely
on our roadmaps.

Don't mean to be a pain, just being sure that we don't give the
impression of /promising/ anything.

Philo

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Feb 24, 2007, 5:25:39 PM2/24/07

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Thanks for those comments, they were appreciated.

D-Fan

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Feb 27, 2007, 11:54:40 PM2/27/07

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Keep misquoting promises v/s roadmaps and they will stop publishing
roadmaps.

Yes, it is later than we wanted and I would like to have seen it some
time ago. However, it ships when they ship it and we can't change that.
I wish they had enough resources, etc. to get this out 6 months ago
and make it a good product. I am just hoping that it is worth the wait
and gets accepted into some of the VS only shops.

Marco Caspers

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Feb 28, 2007, 2:11:11 AM2/28/07

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Nick Hodges (CodeGear) wrote:

> Philo wrote:
>
> > Then promised again for
> > this go-around, nope.
>
> First, we didn't promise anything.
>
> Second, we said we promised it mid-2007. That's when it should be
> here, just like we said.

No this definitly is not true.
If you re-listen to the first 24 hours of Delphi you will notice that
about 31-34 minutes into one of the sessions it was told to the
listeners that a .NET 2 compatible version of Delphi would be released
shortly after .NET 2 was released.

Till date, it hasn't been released.
Even if you stretch the meaning of "Shortly After" beyond all limits
you're late. Very late.

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Dave Nottage [TeamB]

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Feb 28, 2007, 5:47:37 AM2/28/07

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Marco Caspers wrote:

> No this definitly is not true.
> If you re-listen to the first 24 hours of Delphi you will notice that
> about 31-34 minutes into one of the sessions it was told to the
> listeners that a .NET 2 compatible version of Delphi would be released
> shortly after .NET 2 was released.

You need to listen again. Danny said "we plan to.."

> Even if you stretch the meaning of "Shortly After" beyond all limits
> you're late.

You're definitely stretching the meaning of "plan".

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Dave Nottage [TeamB]