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stevew

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Sep 28, 2003, 10:57:22 PM9/28/03
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All,
I'm building a console app with the most recent update of C++ Builder.

When debugging the app in C++ Builder 5, I am used to inspecting my objects
by selecting Run | Inspect. For instance, I can step into a method and enter
Alt-r-i and enter "this"; and I can inspect the entire object.

Although Builder6 help tells me to select Run | Inspect to inspect objects;
this option is not there in C++ Builder 6.

What up?

Thanks,
Stevew


Wim Bekker

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Sep 29, 2003, 4:55:03 AM9/29/03
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"stevew" <vo...@void.com> wrote:
> Although Builder6 help tells me to select Run | Inspect to inspect
objects;
> this option is not there in C++ Builder 6.

We'll, it's there, just Run | Inspect, just above Evaluate/Modify. It's
disabled when your program is running. If you've set a breakpoint and your
program is halted, the option is enabled.

Then you can also inspect a variable by positioning the mouse cursor above
the variable and pressing 'CTRL'-left mouse button.

In the evaluate window you can also select to inspect a variable (and you
can select to watch it).

Wim


stevew

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Sep 30, 2003, 11:25:08 AM9/30/03
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Hello All,
Thanks to Wim for your reply.
I checked and double checked, but "Run | Inspect" is just plain not there!
The only factor I can currently think of is that I'm running the "personal
edition". But it's hard to imagine that this most important of features
would be removed based on edition. In Builder 5, it's just above the
"Evaluate/Modify" option.
Is "Run | Inspect" missing for anyone else out there?
Regards,
Steve

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Andrew Bond

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Oct 1, 2003, 10:33:30 AM10/1/03
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Steve

I also have this problem - the Inspect command is missing from the Run menu
and the popup menu. Also my CodeGuard debug window is missing.

I am running the Pro edition of BCB6, with Update 4 applied (build no
10.166), on Windows XP with SP1. I am running exactly the same version on
other XP machines and the Inspect command is present. I haven't investigated
further yet - but will need to do so soon, since the malfunctioning
installation is on my fastest PC.

Perhaps we can share any clues we get....

Andrew Bond

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stevew

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Oct 1, 2003, 11:58:49 AM10/1/03
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All,
Thanks to Andrew for your note. Since you're running the Pro edition, I
guess that rules out an edition-specific issue. BTW, I'm also running with
Update 4 on an XP machine. I have no other ideas at this time, but I'll let
you know if any other evidence surfaces.
Has anyone on TeamB seen this behavior?
Regards,
Stevew

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Ed Mulroy [TeamB]

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Oct 1, 2003, 6:17:10 PM10/1/03
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I make no promises but try this:

Put the compiler CD into the machine and select the registry update (it may
be called repair).

. Ed

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Andrew Bond

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Oct 2, 2003, 4:58:06 AM10/2/03
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Ed

Thanks for the suggestion - however, a Repair has no effect - the Inspect
command and several Debug windows are missing. I am now attempting a
complete uninstall/reinstall...

Andrew

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Andrew Bond

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Oct 2, 2003, 4:59:35 AM10/2/03
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Steve

One difference between my working and non-working installations is that I
have toolsFactory's ClassExplorer installed on my non-working version... are
you using this also?

Ed's suggestion of a Repair did not work for me. I am now doing a complete
uninstall/reinstall...

Andrew


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Andrew Bond

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Oct 2, 2003, 6:33:25 AM10/2/03
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Steve

I have completely uninstalled and then reinstalled Builder 6 + Update 4 +
all my other components (DevExpress, Raize, Graphics Server, TurboPower XML
Pro) ... and everthing is now working properly.

A couple of hours wasted, but at least I am fully operational now <g>.

Andrew


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Wim Bekker

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Oct 2, 2003, 7:55:46 AM10/2/03
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"Andrew Bond" wrote:
> I have completely uninstalled and then reinstalled Builder 6 + Update 4 +
> all my other components (DevExpress, Raize, Graphics Server, TurboPower
XML
> Pro) ... and everthing is now working properly.

We've had this problem when installing borland as Administrator and using it
as user (with admin rights). We use ClassExplorer as well.

Wim


Andrew Bond

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Oct 2, 2003, 9:34:03 AM10/2/03
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Wim

That fits with my experience - this time around I have NOT installed
ClassExplorer and the problem has not re-appeared.

Andrew

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stevew

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Oct 2, 2003, 1:59:58 PM10/2/03
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Hello Wim, Andrew, and Ed,
Thanks for your interest in this issue. Still no luck!

Andrew , to answer your question as to whether I've installed ClassExplorer
, I am doing only the "typical" install.

Ed, I tried the repair option on install as well; but no luck (same as
Andrew's experience).

I performed an uninstall/reinstall; but still Run | Inspect still does not
appear.

Thinking I might have a permissions problem, I also relaxed the permissions
on my disk drive and did an uninstall/reinstall cycle; still to no avail.

Wim, I am installing under my user account, which has admin privilege.

I'm intrigued as to why this problem exists. That is, what's special about
inspecting an object that would make it an inaccesible option?

Regards,
stevew

FYI, I'm running WinXP (latest updates); Builder6 Personal; Problem is there
with or without update4.

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Ed Mulroy [TeamB]

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Oct 2, 2003, 10:23:00 PM10/2/03
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Try asking in the

borland.public.install.cppbuilder

group, and mention that this happened on the latest install. Borland folks
maintain a presense in that group and may have seen this one before.

. Ed

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Andrew Bond

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Oct 3, 2003, 1:54:28 AM10/3/03
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Steve

Do you have the other symptoms that I had? Such as:

CodeGuard command missing missing from View | Debug Windows menu,
Tools | Debugger dialog box missing its Events page

These might be useful clues to those who have fixed the problem in a
different way to me.

Andrew


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Wim Bekker

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Oct 3, 2003, 4:37:19 AM10/3/03
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I've also had To-Do missing, but the todo file was present. (on Win2K).

Wim

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Remy Lebeau (TeamB)

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Oct 3, 2003, 8:21:35 PM10/3/03
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"stevew" <void> wrote in message news:3f7e1186$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...

> I posted a query at the installation newsgroup and the
> mystery is solved. The Run | Inspect feature is not available
> in the Personal Edition.

Well, that's a pretty weird choice Borland made. Even personal developers
need to debug their creations.


Gambit


stevew

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Oct 3, 2003, 8:17:12 PM10/3/03
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Hello All,

I posted a query at the installation newsgroup and the mystery is solved.
The Run | Inspect feature is not available in the Personal Edition.
Thanks for your help with this issue.
Regards,
SteveW

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