Hi all, First of all really sorry for the long delay in posting the minutes of the Hacking Session, BMSLUG had organized. A Million Thanks to all those who really took interest in writing your feedback here before we posted the summary report. I would like to see many more feedbacks.
First of all before starting to talk about anything else, A Big Thanks to all those who made this session possible. You all deserve a special mention for contributing in various ways, like setting up all the 50 odd computers (which was no less than any pain), and other organization stuff.
1. Bharath Ram (Takes a special Mention in coming to lab each day and setting up things required for the session.) 2. Adithya Udupa (Ditto and for organizing stuff) 3. Anil 4. Balajee 4. Sandeep
The session started 15 minutes late since we were not fully ready with the Network Setup and also since Internet was down for a while. The turn out was decent enough (I must say it was as much as I expected). There were around 50- 60 people. Good thing was that this time the news had reached people well. We could see many students from RVCE (MCA Department), along with Renuka Prasad Sir and another Madam. Thanks to Renuka Prasad Sir for making this news to reach students at RVCE. There were students from CMRIT and other colleges too.
Me(madrazr), Subramaniam (shasthri9999) and Puneeth started the hands-on in one of the labs and Vattam(dr__house), Krishna (Krisys) and Kavoor (oorjha) took care of another lab. We had prepared before to cover exactly the same content in either lab, so that people in one lab be sure of not losing anything from the other lab ;-) We asked all of them to join #bmslug channel to get the instructi- ons quickly and easily and were delighted to see more than 40 people for the
first time on the channel ;-)
We then spoke about why people in general and students in particular should contribute to Free Software and what are its values and advantages. Then we gave a brief overview of what we had planned for the day. Later we took each of those topics in detail and covered it in sufficient depth I feel. We described about concepts of Revision Control System, Bug Trackers, other development tools. We then started doing hands on. We showed them how to search for Free
Software projects and then how to check out its source code using SVN. We had selected a bug in a tool called GNUSim8085. We showed them how to build the source and explained the importance of building it before trying out anything. People were intentionally given chance to see how build process fails because of development packages not being installed.
Later we took one bug from the bug tracker of GNUSim8085 in sourceforge and then went about fixing it. We introduced, how to use tools like compilers, make, gdb etc. And then helped them fix that bug. Later we also spoke about svn diffs and how to create and submit patches, svn commit. After this we went on demonst- rating some of the alternatives to all the tools used in hands on like, GNOME Bugzilla for Bug Tracking, Git for Revision Control etc. With this we closed the session.
All in all, I think we did covered almost all we had planned. There are few feedbacks that said we had to cover GDB and RCS stuffs in detail. Really thanks a lot for the open feedback. We are really sorry we had just 2 hours of time to cover all these things. We can do more of these things in the forthcoming sess- ions. We were delighted to see the enthusiasm to learn shown by the students who had come for the session. We ourselves have learnt a lot in the course of organ- izing this session. We are really looking forward to do more of such sessions.
Thanks for all the enthusiasm and support you have shown people. And finally, thanks to our team itself (I have already used Big and Million above, I now don't know what thanks I should say now :). Thanks to dr__house, Krisys, shasthri9999, oorjha and puneeth. Thanks for all the work and support.
Hey all, First i would like to thank "my seniors"(i am proud to say that:-)) and above all my friends, for organising the hands-on session! i have collected the feed back from various participants. Unanimously they feel the session was really helpful!! BIG thanks to Madhu, Vattam, Subbu, Krishna, Puneeth and everyone involved!! We are looking forward to more such sessions!
along with the topics madhu mentioned we also lookforward to handson on Python, Basic Kernel related stuff like probably compiling from source code, structure of kernel or compiling different desktop environments like GNOME KDE, that can give us an insight on how to contribute to these popular projects.
i must say next few weeks to come will be really exciting for us enthusiasts. There are a slew of events lined up like Foss.in , Richard Stallman visit to bangalore and many more "festivities" :-) So look forward for more information on these events on BMS-LUG posts!!
Last but not the least an open request to madhu!! Madhu thanks all of us ("juniors";-)) for helping in organising stuff!! Is it really required?? Atleast we "juniors" DON'T think so!! We all are here for a particular cause ie contrbuting to Free Libre Open Source Movement! so we dont really consider we are doing a favour by helping in organising stuff and therefore you dont need to thank us!! :-)
CHEERS, Adithya C Udupa
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Madhusudan C.S <madhusuda...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi all, > First of all really sorry for the long delay in posting the > minutes > of the Hacking Session, BMSLUG had organized. A Million Thanks to all those
> who really took interest in writing your feedback here before we posted the > summary report. I would like to see many more feedbacks.
> First of all before starting to talk about anything else, A Big Thanks to > all > those who made this session possible. You all deserve a special mention for
> contributing in various ways, like setting up all the 50 odd computers > (which > was no less than any pain), and other organization stuff.
> 1. Bharath Ram (Takes a special Mention in coming to lab each day and > setting up things required for the > session.) > 2. Adithya Udupa (Ditto and for organizing stuff) > 3. Anil > 4. Balajee > 4. Sandeep
> The session started 15 minutes late since we were not fully ready with > the > Network Setup and also since Internet was down for a while. The turn out > was > decent enough (I must say it was as much as I expected). There were around > 50- > 60 people. Good thing was that this time the news had reached people well. > We > could see many students from RVCE (MCA Department), along with Renuka > Prasad > Sir and another Madam. Thanks to Renuka Prasad Sir for making this news to > reach students at RVCE. There were students from CMRIT and other colleges > too.
> Me(madrazr), Subramaniam (shasthri9999) and Puneeth started the hands-on > in > one of the labs and Vattam(dr__house), Krishna (Krisys) and Kavoor (oorjha) > took > care of another lab. We had prepared before to cover exactly the same > content in > either lab, so that people in one lab be sure of not losing anything from > the > other lab ;-) We asked all of them to join #bmslug channel to get the > instructi- > ons quickly and easily and were delighted to see more than 40 people for > the > first time on the channel ;-)
> We then spoke about why people in general and students in particular > should > contribute to Free Software and what are its values and advantages. Then we
> gave a brief overview of what we had planned for the day. Later we took > each of > those topics in detail and covered it in sufficient depth I feel. We > described > about concepts of Revision Control System, Bug Trackers, other development > tools. We then started doing hands on. We showed them how to search for > Free > Software projects and then how to check out its source code using SVN. We > had > selected a bug in a tool called GNUSim8085. We showed them how to build the
> source and explained the importance of building it before trying out > anything. > People were intentionally given chance to see how build process fails > because > of development packages not being installed.
> Later we took one bug from the bug tracker of GNUSim8085 in sourceforge > and > then went about fixing it. We introduced, how to use tools like compilers, > make, > gdb etc. And then helped them fix that bug. Later we also spoke about svn > diffs > and how to create and submit patches, svn commit. After this we went on > demonst- > rating some of the alternatives to all the tools used in hands on like, > GNOME > Bugzilla for Bug Tracking, Git for Revision Control etc. With this we > closed the > session.
> All in all, I think we did covered almost all we had planned. There are > few > feedbacks that said we had to cover GDB and RCS stuffs in detail. Really > thanks > a lot for the open feedback. We are really sorry we had just 2 hours of > time to > cover all these things. We can do more of these things in the forthcoming > sess- > ions. We were delighted to see the enthusiasm to learn shown by the > students who > had come for the session. We ourselves have learnt a lot in the course of > organ- > izing this session. We are really looking forward to do more of such > sessions.
> Thanks for all the enthusiasm and support you have shown people. And > finally, > thanks to our team itself (I have already used Big and Million above, I now
> don't know what thanks I should say now :). Thanks to dr__house, Krisys, > shasthri9999, oorjha and puneeth. Thanks for all the work and support.
> Hey all, > First i would like to thank "my seniors"(i am proud to say > that:-)) and above all my friends, for organising the hands-on session! > i have collected the feed back from various participants. Unanimously they > feel the session was really helpful!! BIG thanks to Madhu, Vattam, Subbu, > Krishna, Puneeth and everyone involved!! We are looking forward to more such > sessions!
> along with the topics madhu mentioned we also lookforward to > handson on Python, Basic Kernel related stuff like probably compiling from > source code, structure of kernel or compiling different desktop environments > like GNOME KDE, that can give us an insight on how to contribute to these > popular projects.
> i must say next few weeks to come will be really exciting for > us enthusiasts. There are a slew of events lined up like Foss.in , Richard > Stallman visit to bangalore and many more "festivities" :-) So look forward > for more information on these events on BMS-LUG posts!!
> Last but not the least an open request to madhu!! Madhu thanks > all of us ("juniors";-)) for helping in organising stuff!! Is it really > required?? Atleast we "juniors" DON'T think so!! We all are here for a > particular cause ie contrbuting to Free Libre Open Source Movement! so we > dont really consider we are doing a favour by helping in organising stuff > and therefore you dont need to thank us!! :-)
Regarding thanks -- the usual culture in free software is usually since it is considered as a family or peer to peer then there is no requirement to thank
another point is anyone who supports / uses free software we should welcome and definitely deserves a Thanks when anyone starts contributing, so whoever contributes in whatever form deserves thanks
and lets not respect anyone and at the same time dont forget not to disrespect anyone while not respecting them
This are some of the observations and opinions among community-- hope it would make sense amongst you too..
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Madhusudan C.S <madhusuda...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hi all, >> First of all really sorry for the long delay in posting the >> minutes >> of the Hacking Session, BMSLUG had organized. A Million Thanks to all >> those >> who really took interest in writing your feedback here before we posted >> the >> summary report. I would like to see many more feedbacks.
>> First of all before starting to talk about anything else, A Big Thanks to >> all >> those who made this session possible. You all deserve a special mention >> for >> contributing in various ways, like setting up all the 50 odd computers >> (which >> was no less than any pain), and other organization stuff.
>> 1. Bharath Ram (Takes a special Mention in coming to lab each day and >> setting up things required for the >> session.) >> 2. Adithya Udupa (Ditto and for organizing stuff) >> 3. Anil >> 4. Balajee >> 4. Sandeep
>> The session started 15 minutes late since we were not fully ready with >> the >> Network Setup and also since Internet was down for a while. The turn out >> was >> decent enough (I must say it was as much as I expected). There were around >> 50- >> 60 people. Good thing was that this time the news had reached people well. >> We >> could see many students from RVCE (MCA Department), along with Renuka >> Prasad >> Sir and another Madam. Thanks to Renuka Prasad Sir for making this news to
>> reach students at RVCE. There were students from CMRIT and other colleges >> too.
>> Me(madrazr), Subramaniam (shasthri9999) and Puneeth started the >> hands-on in >> one of the labs and Vattam(dr__house), Krishna (Krisys) and Kavoor >> (oorjha) took >> care of another lab. We had prepared before to cover exactly the same >> content in >> either lab, so that people in one lab be sure of not losing anything from >> the >> other lab ;-) We asked all of them to join #bmslug channel to get the >> instructi- >> ons quickly and easily and were delighted to see more than 40 people for >> the >> first time on the channel ;-)
>> We then spoke about why people in general and students in particular >> should >> contribute to Free Software and what are its values and advantages. Then >> we >> gave a brief overview of what we had planned for the day. Later we took >> each of >> those topics in detail and covered it in sufficient depth I feel. We >> described >> about concepts of Revision Control System, Bug Trackers, other development
>> tools. We then started doing hands on. We showed them how to search for >> Free >> Software projects and then how to check out its source code using SVN. We >> had >> selected a bug in a tool called GNUSim8085. We showed them how to build >> the >> source and explained the importance of building it before trying out >> anything. >> People were intentionally given chance to see how build process fails >> because >> of development packages not being installed.
>> Later we took one bug from the bug tracker of GNUSim8085 in sourceforge >> and >> then went about fixing it. We introduced, how to use tools like compilers, >> make, >> gdb etc. And then helped them fix that bug. Later we also spoke about svn >> diffs >> and how to create and submit patches, svn commit. After this we went on >> demonst- >> rating some of the alternatives to all the tools used in hands on like, >> GNOME >> Bugzilla for Bug Tracking, Git for Revision Control etc. With this we >> closed the >> session.
>> All in all, I think we did covered almost all we had planned. There are >> few >> feedbacks that said we had to cover GDB and RCS stuffs in detail. Really >> thanks >> a lot for the open feedback. We are really sorry we had just 2 hours of >> time to >> cover all these things. We can do more of these things in the forthcoming >> sess- >> ions. We were delighted to see the enthusiasm to learn shown by the >> students who >> had come for the session. We ourselves have learnt a lot in the course of >> organ- >> izing this session. We are really looking forward to do more of such >> sessions.
>> Thanks for all the enthusiasm and support you have shown people. And >> finally, >> thanks to our team itself (I have already used Big and Million above, I >> now >> don't know what thanks I should say now :). Thanks to dr__house, Krisys, >> shasthri9999, oorjha and puneeth. Thanks for all the work and support.
>> Thanks to dr__house, Krisys, >> shasthri9999, oorjha and puneeth. Thanks for all the work and support.
> This is really bad!!! You are not supposed to thank us, since we all > organized it together. We feel offended when you thank us.
It wouldn't hurt anyone, I guess. How many Thank Yous we get everyday? Don't be kannjus with good words. I'm with Madhu here. Thanks for the amazing work you folks are doing. Keep up the good work.
Happy Hacking Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Praveen A <prav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> This is really bad!!! You are not supposed to thank us, since we all >> organized it together. We feel offended when you thank us.
> It wouldn't hurt anyone, I guess. How many Thank Yous we get everyday? > Don't be kannjus with good words.
Being liberal with Thanks, here's my share. ;-)
Thanks a lot for choosing GNUSim8085 as an example. Being one of its devel we are really looking forward for more contributors always and hope this would motivate a few students to come back to our devel-mailing list and suggest amazing ideas.
Happy Hacking Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign
> Happy Hacking > Praveen > -- > പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് > <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! > <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? > (as seen on /.) > Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now!
Well, i'm little late to reply this time.But anyway, it was just great, it really made me believe that hacking is not very difficult. I tried some minor menu caption changes to the gnusim8085, it was fun. And, it was nice that i was also able to help a little and learned what all was needed to complete a hacking setup. On a whole, hats off to the guys who made it possible. Looking forward for sessions on python etc.
On 11/9/08, Aditya Kavoor <aditya.kav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Happy Hacking >> Praveen >> -- >> പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് >> <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! >> <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? >> (as seen on /.) >> Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now!
The session was great...i've started to believe that i can have more fun building and debugging packages on Linux rather than playing games on Windows as i usually do :),i've learnt a lot from what we did.Looking forward to similar sessions on Python.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Shantanu Jha <jhahon...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, i'm little late to reply this time.But anyway, it was just > great, it really made me believe that hacking is not very difficult. I > tried some minor menu caption changes to the gnusim8085, it was fun. > And, it was nice that i was also able to help a little and learned > what all was needed to complete a hacking setup. > On a whole, hats off to the guys who made it possible. Looking forward > for sessions on python etc.
> On 11/9/08, Aditya Kavoor <aditya.kav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Santosh, > > See the support Madhu has. better we keep quiet :)
> > On 11/9/08, Praveen A <prav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Happy Hacking > >> Praveen > >> -- > >> പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് > >> <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! > >> <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? > >> (as seen on /.) > >> Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now!
