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Alain-Christian  
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 More options Jan 22, 11:01 pm
From: Alain-Christian <mynamebackwa...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:01:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Jan 22 2012 11:01 pm
Subject: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Nobody is being quoted. You shouldn't be using blockquote as a
presentational tag. It's just wrong. Ugh, the new comments system is such a
mess.


 
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Brett Morgan  
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 More options Jan 23, 8:38 pm
From: Brett Morgan <brettmor...@google.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:38:15 +1100
Local: Mon, Jan 23 2012 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Hi Alain-Christian,

What are the main things that you would change about our threaded comments?
I've put up a post<http://code.blogger.com/2012/01/customising-threaded-comments.html>that
gives some of the detail around our implementation, and I'm sure you
could dig in, and re-implement it to your liking.

brett

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> Nobody is being quoted. You shouldn't be using blockquote as a
> presentational tag. It's just wrong. Ugh, the new comments system is such a
> mess.

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Shawno  
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From: Shawno <shawnrai...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:17:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 24 2012 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Brett, I don't understand what you mean by "... now with an optional extra
field data:comment.inReplyTo which will contain the id of the parent
comment, if there is one."

Can you show me an example of using *data:comment.inReplyTo*? I tried all
kinds of things, but can't get it to work.

You can use this small amount of code(or something more comfortable for
you):

*<ol>*
*<b:loop values='data:post.comments' var='comment'>
*
*<li><data:comment.body/></li>*
*</b:loop>*
*</ol>*

What I'd like to see is where one would place *data:comment.inReplyTo*.


 
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 More options Jan 25, 3:33 pm
From: gxg <george.m...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:33:09 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Jan 25 2012 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Second that! The comment is original text, not a quote of something from
another website. Why not simply use <p> tags as before?!
Not to mention for people who added CSS to style <blockquote> that will now
style comments as well, breaking their design.

And Brett, that shouldn't be something that users need to "re-implement" to
our liking, since it's in the HTML standard. If we go in and change that it
will likely break the next time you roll out changes...


 
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Brett Morgan  
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From: Brett Morgan <brettmor...@google.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:07:54 +1100
Local: Thurs, Jan 26 2012 5:07 am
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

I understand your point of view George, and I've passed it on to the
engineer who built this functionality.

brett

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gxg  
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 More options Jan 26, 12:26 pm
From: gxg <george.m...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:26:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Jan 26 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Thanks, Brett!


 
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Alain-Christian  
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 More options Jan 30, 12:13 am
From: Alain-Christian <mynamebackwa...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:13:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 30 2012 12:13 am
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Why do comments use the blockquote tag?
It's a good post, I saw it. But I feel like that post is missing a few details. It'd be nice if you detailed the includables. You said we could overwrite them but I don't know what I'm overwriting. And my comments are formatted like blockquotes now. It makes zero semantic sense to be using the blockquote tag. Not to mention the CSS customizations I made last time all went out the window. Nothing got resused. And speaking of CSS, I don't like how there's a block of it after the header section. What's up with that? Was there no other way? Couldn't you link to a file instead and include that as part of all-header-content?

Now that I've seen the change I'm thinking of moving my comments to disqus. It might be time. I don't like to rely too much on 3rd party stuff but to be making such a basic mistake as using blockquote the way you guys did doesn't fill me with much confidence. I hate to say it but come on!

It's like your *ridiculous SPAN usage in the post editor.

* See also http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/53572


 
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Brett Morgan  
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From: Brett Morgan <brettmor...@google.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:03:14 +1100
Local: Tues, Jan 31 2012 2:03 am
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Thanks for the feedback Alain-Christian. I've had a chat with the
developers of the commenting system, and I am treating the usage of quotes
as a bug to be fixed. I can't promise timelines, but I'm hoping we can fix
this sooner rather than later.

brett

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Alain-Christian
<mynamebackwa...@gmail.com>wrote:

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NicoNico  
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From: NicoNico <nico...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:18:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2012 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?
I like the new system, but due to to some difficults to customize it, I decided to adapt the classic system to create my own version of threaded comments, using a new data tag that Brett share us kindly in this post
http://code.blogger.com/2012/01/customising-threaded-comments.html

You can take a look of what I did here: http://nicondroid.blogspot.com/p/custom-threaded-comments-in-blogger....

I have tested it collaboration with other bloggers and works perfect; I would appreciate any feedback for this proposal.

Cheers,
NicoNico

BTW: Brett, the issue related with the classic comments paginator and the malfunctioning of tags data:post.olderLinkUrl - data:post.newerLinkUrl still persist https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bloggerdev/v39l1omYbRk/960MCfpBBXsJ


 
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Brett Morgan  
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From: Brett Morgan <brettmor...@google.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:28:04 +1100
Local: Sun, Feb 12 2012 9:28 pm
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Thanks for the report Nicco!

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 More options Feb 23, 2:12 pm
From: gxg <george.m...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:12:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 23 2012 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Hi Brett!

As far as I can see, the <blockquote> tag has been removed from the new
comment system in the past couple of days. Thanks!

However, unfortunately, now I see that the 'Reply'-link has stopped working
again, at least on my blog... :( [http://exde601e.blogspot.com/]
Could you take a look at that if you get the chance?
Best,
George


 
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George B. Moga  
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From: "George B. Moga" <george.m...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:43:07 +0200
Local: Sat, Mar 10 2012 10:43 am
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Never mind, I copied the new code from my test blog to my main one and it
looks OK now!
best,
George

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Brett Morgan  
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From: Brett Morgan <brettmor...@google.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:42:03 +1100
Local: Sun, Mar 11 2012 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: [bloggerDev] Re: Why do comments use the blockquote tag?

Glad to hear you fixed it George!

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