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vlh  
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(3 users)  More options May 26 2007, 12:59 am
From: vlh
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 21:59:12 -0700
Local: Sat, May 26 2007 12:59 am
Subject: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS
Okay, it took me a while to find the information I wanted regarding
COMMENT FEEDS and PUBLISHING TO ONE'S OWN FTP SITE (FYI -- a non-
blogspot hosted blog).

If you have a blog hosted on BLOGSPOT.COM, the "Suscribe to Atom Post
Feeds", "Suscribe to Atom Comment Feeds", and "Suscribe to
(individual) Post Comment Feeds" will all work fine if you have these
features enabled under Settings/Site Feed. SEE info at >>>

http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=42662&query=site%20feeds...

However, FOR THOSE OF US WHO HOST OUR OWN BLOGS VIA FTP, this handy
bit of code (below) WILL NOT WORK FOR ANYTHING BUT POST FEEDS IN A NON-
BLOGSPOT HOSTED BLOG whether you have the 2-types of COMMENTS FEEDS
enabled or not:

<p id="blogfeeds"><$BlogFeedsVertical$></p>

mentioned at SEE info link >>>

http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=42663&query=site%20feeds...

HOWEVER!!!
THERE IS A WAY AROUND THIS FOR FTP-USERS!!! Hurray :)

1) First of all, keep those features ENABLED -- if you want to create
your comment feed link, it will need to be enabled.

2) The Post Feed will already be working with the code you should
already be using in your template --- something like this:

<p id="blogfeeds">Subscribe to<br/>Posts [<a target="_blank"
href="http://www.YOURBLOGNAME.com/blog/atom.xml" type="application/atom
+xml">Atom</a>]</p>

and/or

<p id="blogfeeds">Subscribe to <br/>Posts [<a target="_blank"
href="http://www.YOURBLOGNAME.com/blog/rss.xml"
type="application/rss+xml">RSS</a>]</p>

.....WHICH IS EQUAL TO THE BLOGGER TEMPLATES VERSION OF THIS CODE
known as:
<p id="blogfeeds"><$BlogFeedsVertical$></p> .......BUT I LIKE TO PUT
THE MANUAL VERSION IN MY TEMPLATE SO THAT I CAN SEE WHAT IS WHAT.

3) NEXT, we will work on the MANUAL COMMENTS FEED CODE you will write
for yourself:

a) Go to your actual blog page (not the template)
b) Right-Click on the Page and "View Source"
c) Look for the <!-- Meta Information --> section of your blog (near
the top of the page)
d) Find the BLOGGER ADDRESS for your FEEDS which should look like
this:

href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/123456thisisyourblogID#/posts/
default" and copy it --- you will need it later!

KEEP IN MIND THAT IN THE BLOGGER TEMPLATE, you can't get to this info
because it is created by the code that looks like this:

<!-- Meta Information -->
  <$BlogMetaData$>

which is why Right-Clicking on the ACTUAL BLOG PAGE/view source lets
you see this valuable info!

4) Okay, so now we will use this valuable information for our own
purposes in modifying our template!!!

TAKE THE CODE WE WERE SUCCESSFULLY USING FOR POST FEEDS from #2 above:

<p id="blogfeeds">Subscribe to<br/>Posts [<a target="_blank"
href="http://www.YOURBLOGNAME.com/blog/atom.xml" type="application/atom
+xml">Atom</a>]</p>

a) insert some breaks <br><br> after the existing code
b) COPY from "Subscribe" thru to "</p> and PASTE after your breaks. It
should look like this now:

<p id="blogfeeds">Subscribe to<br/>Posts [<a target="_blank"
href="http://www.YOURBLOGNAME.com/blog/atom.xml" type="application/atom
+xml">Atom</a>]</p>
<br><br>
Subscribe to<br/>Posts [<a target="_blank" href="http://
www.YOURBLOGNAME.com/blog/atom.xml" type="application/atom+xml">Atom</
a>]</p>

c) CHANGE "Posts" to "Comments"
d) COPY that Meta Data from above in #3 which looked like this:

href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/123456thisisyourblogID#/posts/
default"
CHANGE "posts" to "comments" and PASTE it into the current "href" info
above

e) You should now have a chunk of code that looks like this:

<p id="blogfeeds">Subscribe to<br/>Posts [<a target="_blank"
href="http://www.YOURBLOGNAME.com/blog/atom.xml" type="application/atom
+xml">Atom</a>]</p>
<br><br>
Subscribe to<br/>Comments [<a target="_blank" href="http://
www.blogger.com/feeds/123456thisisyourblogID#/comments/default"
type="application/atom+xml">Atom</a>]</p>

5) REPEAT the same steps for the RSS version if you wish to provide an
RSS.xml feed in addition/instead of ATOM.xml.

Your template should now produce links that look like this:

Subscribe to
Posts [Atom]
Comments [Atom]

and/or

Subscribe to
Posts [RSS]
Comments [RSS]

AND THE COMMENTS FEED WILL ACTUALLY WORK!!! Because you are accessing
it from Blogger directly by using your blog's ID# to get the
information.

-------> You can also use this same trickeroo to make specific LABEL
FEEDS (say you have an existing label called "cats" --- you can make a
link for people to use to receive FEEDS of a particular LABEL --- i.e.
a feed from all the posts that you label with "cats"!!!

1) First we will be using the posts/default version of your blog feed
(before we changed "posts" to "comments":

href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/123456thisisyourblogID#/posts/
default"

2) Next, we will be adding the following code at the end:

/-/labelname
in this case:
/-/cats

3) Which should look like this after you move the </br>, change the
"Comments" to "LABELS" and the "Atom" link to "cats"

<br><br>
Subscribe to my LABELS</br>[<a target="_blank" href="http://
www.blogger.com/feeds/123456thisisyourblogID#/posts/default/-/cats"
type="application/atom+xml">cats</a>]</p>

4) This will result in a list such as this (Cut an Paste to make more
labels links):

Subscribe to my LABELS
[cats]
[dogs]
[ferrets]

*****special thanks to IRAE in link below for getting me headed on the
right path to creating this extended tutorial*********

http://groups.google.com/group/blogger-help-howdoi/browse_thread/thre...


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 More options May 26 2007, 1:37 am
From: vlh
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 22:37:51 -0700
Local: Sat, May 26 2007 1:37 am
Subject: Re: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS
EXTRA NOTE:

I wanted to say that I have not been able to figure out how to write
the code to make a FEED FOR SUBSCRIBING TO AN INDIVIDUAL POST'S
COMMENTS!
As it relates to those using FTP (nonBLOGSPOT) hosted blogs, of
course.

If anyone can add this to the tutorial here, that would be great!


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 More options May 26 2007, 6:51 am
From: vlh
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 03:51:18 -0700
Local: Sat, May 26 2007 6:51 am
Subject: Re: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS
OKAY....I was able to ADD A FEED FOR SUBSCRIBING TO AN INDIVIDUAL
POST'S
COMMENTS....As it relates to those using FTP (nonBLOGSPOT) hosted
blogs, of
course.

Here are a couple of things you can do:

1) You can create a POST TEMPLATE --- under the SETTINGS/FORMATTING
tab, there is a field for POST TEMPLATE script. Whatever you put in
this field will auto-populate each Create New Post window.

-------------> This is quite handy because you can choose to delete
the script before you publish the post if you do NOT want the Comment
Feed available on that post...for whatever reason. And of course, the
script will be there again next time because it is coming from a POST
TEMPLATE :)  It's a CHOICE on a POST-BY-POST-BASIS.

Here is a sample POST TEMPLATE script:

Subscribe to this post's<a href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/
12345YOUR_BLOG_ID#_HERE/comments/default" target="_blank"
type="application/atom+xml"> Comments (Atom)</a> Follow the
conversation with us! :)

2) You could also put the script in the FOOTER AREA of your BLOG
TEMPLATE ---- in the COMMENTS AREA.

---------------> This is a logical place for it of course, BUT keep in
mind that this will be at the bottom of EVERY post whether you want it
or not for that post because it is part of the BLOG TEMPLATE. This
would be a NON-CHOICE on a POST-BY-POST-BASIS.

------------------------------------> Anyway, THAT is what I have been
able to figure out so far.

---------------------->>> BUT, what I was originally hoping to do was
to NOT have it show at the bottom of every post when the POSTS are all
together on the regular MAIN BLOG page, but rather for it to appear
ONLY at the bottom of the INDIVIDUAL POST PAGES, ya know, the unique
html page that is created for each individual post???? I have seen
this on regular BLOGSPOT-hosted blogs so I know that it is possible,
but I haven't the foggiest clue how this might be done for FTP-hosted
blogs, especially with Custom templates like mine....

ANYONE who has any ideas on this to add here....Feel free to add
it....I'm sure it will be very helpful to many people who stumble upon
this tutorial! :) Thx


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 More options May 26 2007, 8:39 am
From: vlh
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 05:39:21 -0700
Local: Sat, May 26 2007 8:39 am
Subject: Re: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS
ERROR SORRY....I left something out regarding the individual post's
comments feed!!!

the code should look like this:

Subscribe to this post's<a href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/
12345YOUR_BLOG_ID#_HERE/<$BlogItemNumber$>/comments/default"
target="_blank" type="application/atom+xml"> Comments (Atom)</a>
Follow the conversation with us! :)

--------------------> This will result in JUST THE COMMENTS FEED FOR
THAT POST ONLY!!!!

The way I had it before was still just the GLOBAL COMMENTS FROM EVERY
POST --- localized within the POST TEMPLATE or FOOTER....which was
stupid!

---------------------------------------------->>>> AND, AS
BEFORE.....IF YOU CAN ADD TO THE FOLLOWING PROBLEM WHICH I STILL DON"T
KNOW HOW TO SOLVE ----------------------------->>>> WHAT I was
originally hoping to do was
to NOT have it show at the bottom of every post when the POSTS are
all
together on the regular MAIN BLOG page, but rather for it to appear
ONLY at the bottom of the INDIVIDUAL POST PAGES, ya know, the unique
html page that is created for each individual post???? I have seen
this on regular BLOGSPOT-hosted blogs so I know that it is possible,
but I haven't the foggiest clue how this might be done for FTP-hosted
blogs, especially with Custom templates like mine....

ANYONE who has any ideas on this to add here....Feel free to add
it....I'm sure it will be very helpful to many people who stumble
upon
this tutorial! :) Thx


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 More options May 27 2007, 1:57 am
From: vlh
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 22:57:55 -0700
Local: Sun, May 27 2007 1:57 am
Subject: Re: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS

UPDATE:
The Global Comments Feed script works fine for Post Template's because
it is purely HTML

---------------------> BUT

The "Per Post Comments Feed" hack will only work as part of your BLOG
TEMPLATE --- NOT in the POST TEMPLATE ----- why? because the Blogger-
speak part of the code ------------>    <$BlogItemNumber$>  does not
work in this purely html zone of Post Templates. Sorry about that.

Unless anyone more experienced can offer a solution to this? I mean in
an automated way?

Obviously, one COULD go back in manually after posting to get the
actual POST ID # to put in the html so that you can have the per post
comment feed in the actual post body. It just won't be automatic like
when you make it part of the Blog Template..

Sorry again. I hope this is helpful to somebody. :) Now if someone
could just look at some of my questions,,,,that would be great :p


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Dan Sallitt  
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 More options Jun 15 2007, 4:59 pm
From: Dan Sallitt
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:59:49 -0700
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2007 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS
Thanks, vlh - this tutorial solved a problem that had really been
bothering me!

For what it's worth, I had a little trouble finding the correct place
to put the code for the individual post feeds.  On my template, I
stuck it near the end of the paragraph that started:

<p class="post-footer">

And I put a <br> in front of it to make it look nice.  Also, for you
novices: make sure you plug your blog ID into the bit of code that vlh
provided - you can get it out of the URL for your Dashboard pages.

Thanks again. - Dan


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 More options Jul 25 2007, 12:26 am
From: shabot6000
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:26:22 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 12:26 am
Subject: Re: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS
Thank you, I had posted a question about this topic here:

Cannot find Comment Feed on blog published via FTP
http://groups.google.com/group/blogger-help-howdoi/browse_thread/thre...

Glad to have finally found the answer!  My site that uses your fine
instructions is here:

http://shabot6000.com/blog

I believe Google should post these instructions somewhere in their
official Blogger Help Guide, perhaps even making this process even
easier with new template tags or settings.


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 More options Jul 25 2007, 1:24 am
From: vlh
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:24:11 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 1:24 am
Subject: Re: FEEDS, FTP, COMMENTS, POSTS, ATOM, RSS, LABELS

Glad to help!
Thx for the cross references to the post, it helps other find the
answers faster!

;-D  --V


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