Re: Quicksilver is invisible after booting/rebooting (Mountain Lion)

[Tim Lawson]

Yep - that happens to me intermittently too.

On 10 Aug 2012, at 01:37, tadasZ <ta...@zelvys.lt> wrote:

Hi,

recently I have upgaded my Lion to Mountain Lion and now I have a problem with Quicksilver - after booting OS, Quicksilver launches, but is invisible, for example when I hit cmd+space no quicksilver window appears, but I can type for example "firefox", press Enter and Firefox will open (its just I can't see qs window or what I'm typing). To fix this I just open Quicksilver again using spotlight and it appears till next reboot.

anyone have this problem? maybe fixed it somehow ?


Thank you.

P.S. sorry for my bad English.

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[Jon Stovell]

What interface are you using, and have you tried any others?

[Jon Stovell]

What interface are you using, and have you tried any others?

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:01:40 AM UTC-4, Benjamin Hill wrote:

Happens to me every time as well.  Every time I reboot, it does show up in the top bar, but doesn't launch with the hotkeys (Control-Space) until I futz with the menu.  Once I get it to launch once, it works after that until the next reboot.

I'm using all the defaults.

[Tim Lawson]

Well I'm using BezelHUD (my favourite) and yes, I have tried others.  The problem really is that the issue for me is so intermittent that, as ever in this type of situation, it's very hard to diagnose.

The other thing that happens to me is that sometimes after launch, QS fails to react to my ⌃ ␣ input at which times I often see a second, apparently live (light under icon) version of QS in my dock.  I have to <killall Dock> to make it go away after which the correct version of QS remains in the dock and QS runs happily.

On 14 Aug 2012, at 21:28, Jon Stovell <jonst...@gmail.com> wrote:

What interface are you using, and have you tried any others?

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:01:40 AM UTC-4, Benjamin Hill wrote:

Happens to me every time as well.  Every time I reboot, it does show up in the top bar, but doesn't launch with the hotkeys (Control-Space) until I futz with the menu.  Once I get it to launch once, it works after that until the next reboot.

I'm using all the defaults.

On Friday, August 10, 2012 11:33:14 AM UTC-7, Jon Stovell wrote:

What interface are you using, and have you tried any others?

On Thursday, August 9, 2012 8:37:49 PM UTC-4, tadasZ wrote:

Hi,

recently I have upgaded my Lion to Mountain Lion and now I have a problem with Quicksilver - after booting OS, Quicksilver launches, but is invisible, for example when I hit cmd+space no quicksilver window appears, but I can type for example "firefox", press Enter and Firefox will open (its just I can't see qs window or what I'm typing). To fix this I just open Quicksilver again using spotlight and it appears till next reboot.

anyone have this problem? maybe fixed it somehow ?


Thank you.

P.S. sorry for my bad English.

[Ian Hay]

i have seen this same behaviour but only once and after doing killall and restarting it went away and so far hasn't returned !

[Jon Stovell]

Okay, thanks for the extra information. It probably isn't the interface by the sounds of it. Try this:

1. In System Preferences, go to the Users & Groups preference pane and see if Quicksilver is entered there as a login item for your user. If so, remove it from the list.
   
2. In Quicksilver's preferences, turn OFF the option to start at login.
   
3. Log out and then log back in.
4. Start Quicksilver manually.
5. In Quicksilver's preferences, turn ON the option to start at login.
   
6. In System Preferences, verify that Quicksilver is NOT listed as a login item.

Hopefully, that will resolve it for you. If not, you could try turning off the option in Quicksilver's preferences to start at login, and instead manually add it to your user's login items in System Preferences.

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[Rob McBroom]

On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Jon Stovell <jonst...@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay, thanks for the extra information. It probably isn't the interface by the sounds of it. Try this:

1. In System Preferences, go to the Users & Groups preference pane and see if Quicksilver is entered there as a login item for your user. If so, remove it from the list.
   
2. In Quicksilver's preferences, turn OFF the option to start at login.
   
3. Log out and then log back in.
4. Start Quicksilver manually.
5. In Quicksilver's preferences, turn ON the option to start at login.
   

That preference is broken under Mountain Lion.

6. In System Preferences, verify that Quicksilver is NOT listed as a login item.

Hopefully, that will resolve it for you. If not, you could try turning off the option in Quicksilver's preferences to start at login, and instead manually add it to your user's login items in System Preferences.

For now, I'd just ignore the preference and manually manage it via Login Items. (I think that's all the preference does anyway.)

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[Jon Stovell]

P.S.: Just to be clear, checking the Start at Login option in Quicksilver's preferences is actually supposed to create an entry in System Preferences' list of login items for the user, but due to this bug, it isn't making it. On my system, at least, this does not prevent Quicksilver from actually starting properly at login (and without the issues you are experiencing). The purpose of my instructions above is not to get everything the way it is supposed to be, but to clear out anything that might be causing weirdness regarding starting at login so that you can begin with a blank slate.

[Jon Stovell]

Heh. You posted while I was writing. Anyway, the preference in QS is working for me, even though QS never shows up in my login items. I'm not using any alternative methods to launch it at login (e.g. launchd), so you can take that information and make of it whatever you can. If you want to ask more, I'll be happy to discuss it further on github.

[Tim Lawson]

Well I've tested this now quite a bit after having followed your instructions, Jon.  I've also read the two posts you sent subsequent to the one I'm replying to.

I did have 'Start at Login' ticked in QS prefs., and not any reference to QS in my startup items and it did launch at login - sometimes twice as I said before.  I've now unticked that.

I now have manually entered QS into my login items and things seem to have settled.  I'll monitor it over the next few days.  The clipboard and shelf which I like to have sliding in from the right hand side of my screen sometimes show one of two patterns of odd behaviour...

• they need to be launched manually or
• they launch but are black panels seemingly before QS itself has launched.

Makes me wonder if the 'Resume' feature is somehow causing this sort of thing particularly as I wonder if that is what was causing the dual instance of QS in the dock...

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[Rob McBroom]

On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Jon Stovell <jonst...@gmail.com> wrote:

Heh. You posted while I was writing. Anyway, the preference in QS is working for me, even though QS never shows up in my login items. I'm not using any alternative methods to launch it at login (e.g. launchd), so you can take that information and make of it whatever you can. If you want to ask more, I'll be happy to discuss it further on github.

Thanks for the details. I'm rewriting the whole business, so hopefully none of that will matter. :-)

[Tim Lawson]

Today being day one after doing the same thing, I have had the same experience...

I understand Rob is re-coding that part of QS that mends the 'Start at Login' option in QS prefs which will be great for everyone - thanks Rob.

On 17 Aug 2012, at 20:47, Christoph Marti <christo...@dherborence.ch> wrote:

Thanks Jon, I've been experiencing the same problem already from Lion and your 2nd solution finally fixed the bug: turning off the option in Quicksilver's preferences to start at login, and instead manually add it to your user's login items in System Preferences.

The hot key combination works now right away from reboot. I'm using version Beta 69.

Le jeudi 16 août 2012 17:20:44 UTC+2, Jon Stovell a écrit :

Okay, thanks for the extra information. It probably isn't the interface by the sounds of it. Try this:

1. In System Preferences, go to the Users & Groups preference pane and see if Quicksilver is entered there as a login item for your user. If so, remove it from the list.
   
2. In Quicksilver's preferences, turn OFF the option to start at login.
   
3. Log out and then log back in.
4. Start Quicksilver manually.
5. In Quicksilver's preferences, turn ON the option to start at login.
   
6. In System Preferences, verify that Quicksilver is NOT listed as a login item.

Hopefully, that will resolve it for you. If not, you could try turning off the option in Quicksilver's preferences to start at login, and instead manually add it to your user's login items in System Preferences.

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[Rob McBroom]

On Aug 18, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Tim Lawson <stati...@gmail.com> wrote:

I understand Rob is re-coding that part of QS that mends the 'Start at Login' option in QS prefs which will be great for everyone - thanks Rob.

There are two problems (possibly related). The one I've more or less got fixed is what you mention above. The "Start at login" checkbox in Quicksilver's preferences doesn't correctly add or remove it from your Login Items.

The other problem (the one in this thread) occurs when you do have Quicksilver in your Login Items and you attempt to use it for the first time after logging in. And then there are people who see it twice in the Dock on login. So maybe three problems. Anyway, I don't have any ideas on the last two. We haven't been able to reproduce them.

[Tim]

From my pov, I think the issue is fixed by following Jon's instructions and, when the fix for QS's option to start at login is released, the community will somehow need to be alerted to the fact that they should check in System Preferences>Account>Login items and remove QS if it's there. 

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[Rob McBroom]

On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Tim <stati...@gmail.com> wrote:

From my pov, I think the issue is fixed by following Jon's instructions and, when the fix for QS's option to start at login is released, the community will somehow need to be alerted to the fact that they should check in System Preferences>Account>Login items and remove QS if it's there. 

Once it's fixed, the pref in QS and the Login Items list in System Preferences will just be two different ways to do the same thing. (It's supposed to be that way now, but one of the ways just doesn't do anything.) So you shouldn't need to do/check anything after the next release. :-)

[Doug Rowe]

This happened to me updating from Lion to 10.8.2. BUT it was only effecting applications that were in 'full screen'  Doing the logon turn off, and relogin fixed it.  Now if I can only figure out why Ctrl Cmd F doesn't cycle the window..

dhr

[Rob McBroom]

On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Doug Rowe <dhro...@gmail.com> wrote:

This happened to me updating from Lion to 10.8.2. BUT it was only effecting applications that were in 'full screen'  Doing the logon turn off, and relogin fixed it.  Now if I can only figure out why Ctrl Cmd F doesn't cycle the window..

If that’s the case, this is a known issue that only occurs if an application is full screen and you have Quicksilver’s Dock icon visible.

https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/issues/740