Not Exactly a Digest #2
Myles Callum
1. Dan Lester forwarded a notice about a new list devoted to Jewish
cooking. One subscribes to majo...@eskimo.com. Oy gevalt! What
the hell do Eskimos know from Jewish cooking? Dolling, these people
should meet me at the Stage Deli immediately. We'll schmooze, we'll
have a corned beef on rye mit a half-sour, you'll have some chicken
soup, we'll talk.
2. Verdant writes "a monthly column called `HeteroDoxy' for a
pansexual Bay Area leather monthly `CuirUnderground.'" Jeez, Verd,
I keep looking for that publication in the magazine stamps from
Publishers Clearing House ...
3. Br Paul told a story about meeting a man named Sister Mish, who
was wearing a bright purple nun's habit with short full skirt, lots of
petticoats, purple fishnet stockings, and sandals. (That's a lot of
purple--are you sure it wasn't Graham?) This man may have been part
of a group called Short Mountain Radical Faeries. They chatted for
half an hour and Br Paul found Sister Mish to be a charming, thoughtful
and articulate man. The question of attire never came up.
Interesting world out there. I've decided that Br Paul is one of
the three most sincere people on the list. And I like the way he
sticks up for his daughter. So sue me.
4. Marcia hauled her ass out of bed at 5:45 a.m. to take a placement
test for the Swedish university system. Torkel went with her for
moral support. She barfed up half her breakfast--I love these homey
details, don't you?--took the test, and they left. Good luck, luv.
5. While she was sharing a room at the Peabody with Brad, Marcia
phoned Torkel. One big happy postmodern family, that's Words-L!
6. Marty Rosen and Joe Harwood continued their debate about sin,
guilt and responsibility. I am much too airheaded to follow this
kind of closely reasoned discourse and came away with the following
admittedly sketchy impression of the conversation: "I did not say
that." "You did too." "What a load of shit." "Non sequitur!" "So's
yo momma."
Oh, just kiddin', guys. It was quite exhilarating, especially for
those of us who weren't being skinned alive.
7. Waaaaahhhhhhhhhh! Natalie misses Bernardykins!
8. Anne blames Wal-Mart for the decline of Main Street in small-town
America. Sorry, babe, it was declining in Stamford, Conn., when I was
a lad in knee britches, long before Sam came along. Blame it on the
mall, which also predated Sam. I think.
9. Topics of the Week--A Mere Sampling:
God's Great Banana Skin
The Snoring Debate: Brad vs. Alec
Dinosaurs, Those Wonderful Birds of Prey
Jerome Weidman
Coogan's Bluff
The virtues of Eudora
Denchfield in Chicago
Female ejaculation tape
Social engineering
Wolves
Antiquarian books
The Gangster of Love
Termites
Gilligan's Island
Dog Show
Joe and Nancy's 33rd Anniversary: Congrats!
Feudalism
The Brady Bunch
The Soup Nazi
Marianne Ore's homepage:
<http://gonzo.hd.uib.no/NCCH-docs/marianne.html>
NAMBLA, whatever that is
Karsten partied with the Screaming Howlies, or were
they the Howling Screamies?
McNaughton & Gunn, good Michigan printers
Snortfardlism
10. Southern Living and Newsweek are the only magazines Natalie has
subscribed to continuously for most of her adult life.
In her girlhood it was CuirUnderground.
11. Anne wrote a fine note on why Southern Living makes her feel
inferior, but Texas Monthly just makes her laugh. She is exactly
right about this.
12. Natalie explained again why Massachusetts yankees don't know how
to deal with hot weather.
13. Lawrence mentioned a farmer's market in Detroit, where good
produce could be found on early Saturday mornings. Karen said she
LOVED that place because "you could buy hog's heads and sheep brains
and fresh octopus there!" That girl knows how to make your mouth
water, doesn't she?
14. Evelyn misses Radio Moscow. -abh misses the friendly little
stores that used to be downtown on Main Street. I miss ... what the
hell do I miss? I'm so old I can't even remember what I miss. Well
... you know. Do people still exchange bodily fluids, or is that no
longer PC?
15. Verdant collects Birthright flyers as kindling for the winter.
I applaud this.
16. Steve Karlson says real steam engines are green if they're not
black, even though the Mallard was blue. Why are real engines green,
Steve? (--Mules, born to be a straight man.)
17. Karen has a Favorite Benefactor. Sounds verrrrrry mysterious.
18. Natalie can't find a 5-speed Civic Sedan EX. Either they're
making them or they're not. Nobody is quite sure. Verrrrrrry
mysterious.
19. "Waaaahhhhhhhhhhh!! I wish Bernard could give me a little nip
right now! --Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)"
20. ggs was way too quiet for a long time. But now he's back. Good.
21. Annie O'Reilly has been editing a book exuberantly titled
"Cartwheels on the Faultline," an anthology of works by 27 Sonoma
County women. This has led to the creation of a new small publishing
enterprise, Floreant Press, and bluelines are in hand. Sounds really
exciting. All the best, Annie, and put me down for a copy. One of my
daughters is in Forestville (that's Sonoma County, isn't it?) and I
know she'd love to see it.
22. And speaking of nipples ... Verdant says that in the Pride
parade, she always marches with the Society of Janus. She wears
band-aids because she wouldn't want to reflect poorly on the group.
Jeez, yeah, something like that could keep you out of the DAR.
23. Marie: "Thank you, Brad. Bite me, Tushar."
Tushar: "Not if I was a maddened cobra, no! You shall suffer the hell
of self-inflicted miseries, blush-bereft byte-buccaneer!"
24. Roy indulges in a little America-bashing for a change:
"Something I noticed is the number of buildings and factories in North
America which have national flags outside. It was far higher in the
US than Canada and seems to be excessive."
We can't help it, Roy, we're Proud to Be Americans.
25. You Heard It Here First:
"Keep screwing, Mules. You're a good screwer!"
--Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)
26. Two Points for Phyllis:
>> reflect poorly on the group, I follow the rules (no exposure
>>of female nipples or genitals or assholes of either sex).
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Verdant
>
>Does this mean some people aren't allowed to be in the parade?
27. Tushar unleashed a formidable comparison of Target's virtues
over Wal-Mart. This is the way to do it, with concrete detail. Most
impressive, and undoubtedly accurate for the stores he's talking
about. I wish he had been talking about the Target I knew, which
sucked goats. But that was a while back. Maybe they've improved.
28. Mary Saviola (Mary...@AOL.COM), whose husband works for
Wal-Mart, sent some first-hand information. "Employees are considered
full-time if they work at least 28 hours a week and are offered
benefits (health insurance, vacation, stock options, retirement)."
Thank you.
29. Alan Wild and Lawrence Kestenbaum sent statistical rankings
of countries (Alan) and states (Lawrence) according to their levels
of corruption. According to Larry's list, New York and New Jersey are
among the Most Corrupt states. We can work this out, Larry. Siddown.
You like money?
30. -abh's all-purpose response for those who correct her errors:
"You know, I was feelign pretty unsure of myself using that word, so I
thought I'd put out a troll and see which anal-retentive bellied up to
the bar first."
I was thinking of pointing it out, but I decided not to because
I know -abh is always capable of this kind of response. Now I keep
looking at that word "feelign" in her answer. A mere typo. How my
fingers itch to correct it. But then I'd have to indicate my
correction somehow or Karen would say I was LYING. On the other hand,
how seriously should I take someone who eats hog heads and sheep
brains? Where was I? Oh yeah, anal-retentive. I see -abh has used
the hyphen in this case. Is that right? Better look it up ...
31. Tushar put forward an extremely mystical theory to the effect
that the age of a people's culture is related to their degree of
acquaintance with their native land. He then proceeded to
characterize young and old cultures. As Marty said, there are
many provocative and interesting elements to this notion, and all of
them are way the hell beyond me, so I'm glad the two of them are
chatting. Anyone wanna play with me in the sandbox?
32. Quote of the Week I:
"I don't like it when there's no Words-l. Don't like it at all."
--judithk
33. Quote of the Week II:
"Well Nipper-san, you can just bite my happy pink ass." -abh
34. Evelyn posted a list of about 200 happy things. Thank you,
Evelyn. I know these are Natural Highs, so why do I get the feeling
that that list is even more euphoric if you read it about ten minutes
after popping a Percodan?
As for "Holding someone you love in front of a fireplace," well,
okay, but you should remove them when their skin starts to get pink.
Am I the only one who had to think twice about this one? "Going
out on a weekend, getting smashed, and then either slam dancing, or
passing out inside a BayBank with a homeless man nearby." I must
admit I've never fantasized about that last option.
"A brand new pack of Crayola 64." Now you're talkin'. Put
'em right over here by the sandbox!
35. As they were packing their van for the SF book fair, Shoshana
and Bear had a disaster. A cat-astrophe, you could say, caused by
their four Half Main Coons that hate to be left alone. Shoshana
tripped, cables flew, cartons of books broke open, ankles got swollen.
Scratch the book fair. Bummer.
36. Mystery solved: KK's Favorite Benefactor is K.
37. Steven H. Karlson, Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik. Would one of you
statistics wizards tell me what the odds are that two out of, say,
150, wordslers would have the same three initials?
38. Dept. of Clarification: The "Pride Parade" to which Verdant
had referred is shorthand for "the annual Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/-
Transgender Freedom Day Parade. The Society of Janus is San
Francisco's pansexual S/M organization, which celebrated its 20th
anniversary last year."
39. Verdant has said that she is not an outdoor type. She does,
however, enjoy the feeling of outdoor toplessness. She has no
particular sense of modesty about her breasts, and would work toward a
change in the laws banning female breastbaring. I'm sure there are
those among us who would be willing to support her. As it were.
40. In Other News of the Week...
Alec D. Plotkin has stopped sleeping with married women.
Lawrence uses shaving cream *with* electrons, but only on his
neck.
Nipper discovered that the Internet is a big deal among
truckers.
Anne T. proposed a list party in Lawrence's bathroom.
Roxanne hasn't seen <Dick>.
41. Lawrence Kestenbaum notes that the term "African-American"
already seems to be fading. I largely agree with his sentiments here
that "black" vs. "white" is simpler and more logical than "African-
American." The problem is that neither of these terms is truly
accurate. How many people do you know who are actually white? Or
really black? I think we should all get to designate our own skin
colors. I'm especially fond of "flesh-toned." You can call me
Tanny Peach, if you like. I'd say Nipper is Eggshell Beige. Tushar
is Lichee Nut. Natalie is Apricot Cantaloupe.
42. Nipper to Tushar: "Why not talk explicitly about named
cultures. India vs. the US, for instance?"
Yeah, Samant, don't be so damned coy! Out with it!
43. Furthermore, Tushar, would you kindly tell me who is the
"ax-wielding god" in Indian mythology who "swept the sea aside to
uncover a state" that is "twice the size of Israel"?
And why have you never told us that pepper starts out as a berry?
44. Exchange of the Week:
Marty: Don't you just hate misattributions and people
lying about what other people said?
Karen: Yes, Marty, I do. That's why I publicly apologized
to Doris. (I didn't say I'm never guilty of it. I
said that it's a big deal to me.)
Marty: But don't you really, truly, genuinely, hate and
despise it when people do this hateful, despicable
thing?
Karen: Yes, Marty, I do. That's why I publicly apologized
to Doris. (I didn't say I'm never guilty of it. I
said that it's a big deal to me.)
Marty: When I think something is hateful and despicable, I
try to avoid doing it.
Karen: And do you always succeed?
Marty: Well, almost always.
(Sorry, Doris, I know you hate bickering, but this is my JOB.)
45. Bonnie came up with a Words-L Contest. Match 15 people with 15
quotes from their bios without looking it up. Nice idea. I gave up
in disgust because I could only get six, for sure: Love,Judith,
Susan, Neal, Tony, Dan and Natalie. But then, I've looked at some of
the bios within the last few months and should have done better.
Later Bonnie announced the winners: Marie, mem, and Nancy, three
of the nicest people on the list. (Don't you love these provocative
little asides?) Congratudamnlations to you incredibly astute people.
Tushar heartily praised the winners.
46. Lawrence says we can all say xerox, lower case, and not worry
about it. I didn't know that. xerox, xerox, xerox! Wheeeee!
47. Ayn We Got Fun. The Rosen-Chaos debate rages on, with phrases
like "cornerstone of belief systems," "mystical knowledge," and
"social engineering" now under consideration. Or, if you prefer,
under attack. The RRL (Rosen Rigor Level) now stands at DefCon 3.
48. Quote of the Week III:
"This stinks of careerism and a protectionist herd mentality. -abh"
One of those great -abh sentences. It doesn't matter what she
was talking about. This is a metaphor for 83.36% of human activity,
including much of that which transpires on the list.
49. Sylvia's sparkin'! She spent a few days at something called the
League of Innovation Technical Conference, where she saw an interactive
3-D program, Adobe's web-page assembler PageMill, Chinese dictation,
and all sorts of fancy and interesting new toys. Her head is abuzz.
50. Quote of the Week IV:
"5) I don't like it when people disagree with me. --ggs"
51. Clyde and JAG got into a pissing match about negative correlation
coefficients and regression analyses. That was a lot of fun. If
anyone is able to explain this to me with Asimovian clarity and
simplicity, kindly restrain yourself.
52. On behalf of all of us on the list, I would like to thank Natalie
and ggs for clarifying the complex question of thank-you notes and
post-interview etiquette in academ/e/ia. Your answers were extremely
annoying, but it was truly a pleasure to meet you both. I hardly
expected to encounter such youthful, witty interviewers! Thanks again
for your kind consideration. The Starkville, NC, campus is lovely!
53. Their attitudes on this question were exceeded in lofty
disdain only by Roy's, who has never heard of thank-you notes, finds
the idea "very close to grovelling," and is thrilled to have yet
another opportunity to point up the inanity of American customs. He
offers this as an "insight" from "the other side of the Atlantic."
Thank you, Roy, keep those insights comin'!
"Grovelling" is the British spelling, by the way. Try not to
hold it against him.
54. However, ggs quickly redeemed himself with this comment on
"Bosco":
"I didn't say it was funny. I said it was the word for tonight.
Jesus.
--ggs
Everybody has gotten so <nazi>."
55. Karen warns of a shortage of California wines and advises wine
drinkers to stock up before prices get higher. "So why not drink
imported wine instead," says Roy. "There are lots of other countries
that produce decent wine."
First he takes sniper shots from across the pond at everything
American, then he wants us to buy imported wine. Sorry, Roy, we just
can't do that. They have to be labeled, "Proud to Be an Amurrican
Wine."
56. Bookrat thought I was mean to The Soup Nazi. This is puree
nonsense and I hope the discussion is quickly broth to a halt; 'tis
a consomme devoutly to be borscht--er, wished.
57. Quote of the Week V:
"Look at this header. Look at what you're talking about. Stop.
Step back. Think a minute." --Jenn Eustace
A bunch of damn cattle. They just thoughtlessly follow any
header. Give 'em hell, Jenn!
58. The week ended with an orgy of shameless name-dropping. What
a pathetic bunch of small-timers. Ha ha ha ha ha! I won't even get
into it.
59. Nipper posted a lengthy, thoughtful response to Steve's Rebitzer
quotes on the subject of social engineering. Whew! Hey, who swiped
my red Crayola?!
60. We have not heard much from Cia lately and I am quite desolate.
I know she's found someone else. Hey, Kooplik, whattaya doin'
tonight?
61. Did I leave anyone out? That's okay. A little dose of humility
never hurt anyone. Post your pathetic, whining, Chopped Liver note
and I'll think about it.
62. Quote of the Week VI, This Nearly Says It All Dept:
"I can't remember what happened even an hour ago. So you are
forgiven. Kissie kissie..." --ggs
63. Quote of the Week VII, This Does Say It All:
"All is forgiven. Go in peace and follow the ways of righteousness."
--mem
Respectfully, Nay, Grovelingly, Submitted,
Mules
How many of you are going to go back and make sure I didn't skip or
repeat any numbers? Most compulsive list on the net! HA HA HA HA HA!!
Karen Kay
> NAMBLA, whatever that is
National American? Man-Boy Love Association. I do not like these people.
>36. Mystery solved: KK's Favorite Benefactor is K.
Actually, he's KK, too.
> Later Bonnie announced the winners: Marie, mem, and Nancy, three
>of the nicest people on the list.
Ahem!!!!!!!!! Marie, mem, and KAREN!!!!!!!! Still three of the nicest people
on the list, I hope!
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Brad Grissom
brad
Brad Grissom
>
>National American? Man-Boy Love Association. I do not like these people.
North American. I intend to use this acronym in my Sunday
School class tomorrow morning.
>Ahem!!!!!!!!! Marie, mem, and KAREN!!!!!!!! Still three of the nicest people
>on the list, I hope!
Words-L Demigods: Marie, Michael, and Karen. Contest Winners!
Textual Sleuths! Guardians of Collective Memory!
(Eat your heart out, Tushay.)
brad
Karen Kay
>>> NAMBLA, whatever that is
You're right.
>I intend to use this acronym in my Sunday School class tomorrow morning.
Why?
> Words-L Demigods: Marie, Michael, and Karen. Contest Winners!
> Textual Sleuths! Guardians of Collective Memory!
Such lovely epithets!
> (Eat your heart out, Tushay.)
And such lovely sentiments.:)
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Bonnie M. Voigtlander
>I am somewhat breathless over this. No way he can keep it up.
>
>brad
>
From what he wrote, he only has dim memories of <getting> it up! ;-)
Sorry, Myles couldn't resist.
--
bonniev, croneErgomaniac <ao...@yfn.ysu.edu>
11/10 5000m in 23:09 (2:18.94) talked whole way
Nancy Harwood
quibble and point out that I was not one of the nice-people winners in
Bonnie's contest...but other than that it was delightful. I can hardly
wait till next week!
-----Nancy Harwood-----------------------------------------------------------
har...@tenet.edu News is *not* more important than breakfast.
But e-mail might be.
--Mic Kaczmarczik
Myles Callum
>
>brad
You're probably right. Who can think that far ahead?
Sufficient unto the day is the elvis thereof.
Mules
Karen Kay
>Correction: Marie, mem, and KAREN!!!!!!!! Still three of the nicest
>people on the list.
>
>Sorry, my dear. I had too much sheep's brain with my hog head.
Apology accepted.
Btw, I never meant to imply that we ate those things. It was just fun to see
them.:)
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Michael E. Macmillan
>I am somewhat breathless over this. No way he can keep it up.
My one quibble about Myles's Herculean effort is that he did not follow this
item
> 63. Quote of the Week VII, This Does Say It All:
> "All is forgiven. Go in peace and follow the ways of righteousness."
with an editorial injunction to one and all to visit Espen's web page
immediately and behold the image of a penit
Anne Harwell
> And why have you never told us that pepper starts out as a berry?
WHAT??!!!?!??
Michael E. Macmillan
>with an editorial injunction to one and all to visit Espen's web page
>immediately and behold the image of a penit
The fabled Eudora just bit me. That was to have read "the image of a penitent."
mem
Myles Callum
>>I am somewhat breathless over this. No way he can keep it up.
>>
>
>From what he wrote, he only has dim memories of <getting> it up! ;-)
>
>Sorry, Myles couldn't resist.
You don't know dick, Bonnie! I'm not some humorless stiff.
I've tried to be upright. Why are you so hard on me?
Myles' Column
Myles Callum
>> Later Bonnie announced the winners: Marie, mem, and Nancy,
>
>people on the list, I hope!
Correction: Marie, mem, and KAREN!!!!!!!! Still three of the nicest
people on the list.
Sorry, my dear. I had too much sheep's brain with my hog head.
Mules
Myles Callum
Yeah, I never knew that either. In the current (Nov.) issue of Conde
Nast Traveler, the second sentence of the "Where are you?" contest
clue reads, "Sheltered by five-thousand-foot mountains, this coastal
plain is lousy with `black gold,' an acrid berry that hit the global
market three thousand years ago."
We know the answer to the contest, but since the possible prize this
time is not a lousy tee-shirt but a $10,000 trip for two, danged if
I'm saying it out loud before God and all the world. All I'll say is
that the "black gold," I have to believe, is pepper.
Pepper, according to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, is "a
pungent condiment obtained from various plants of the genus <Piper>,
esp. from the dried berries, used whole or ground, of the tropical
^^^^^^^
climbing shrub <P. nigrum>."
This is black (or white) pepper, the spice you sprinkle on food.
Those green and red peppers, the veggies, are of the genus Capsicum,
which I guess is a bit different.
Myles
Bree
Thank Heaven! I was having a moment of silence in contemplation of just
exactly what that typo might have been.......
sho
Janet W. Hardy
: At 04:20 PM 11/11/95 -0500, Myles Callum wrote:
: > NAMBLA, whatever that is
: National American? Man-Boy Love Association. I do not like these people.
North American, actually. I do not like them either.
Verdant
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Bonnie M. Voigtlander
>the three most sincere people on the list. And I like the way he
>sticks up for his daughter. So sue me.
And who would be the other two most sincere people??
Tushar Samant
unlikely female names and writes bitchy-ass "happenings" columns
in gossipy magazines, always saying stuff like "a little hint,
baaabe--with a face with enough cuts to scare the dead to life,
you just don't need a dress loud enough to wake them". Only goes
to show you need a good liver to get things digested well.
mca...@delphi.com writes:
>27. Tushar unleashed a formidable comparison of Target's virtues
>over Wal-Mart. This is the way to do it, with concrete detail.
In righteous protest, I visited Target today and bought a toilet-
hugging rug in Sleazy Burgundy, which now adorns the bathroom for
which *I* pay rent out of my private income. Anyone who wants to
snigger at this may do so... they only stand to, well, lose face
on the net, he he he...
>37. Steven H. Karlson, Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik. Would one of you
>statistics wizards tell me what the odds are that two out of, say,
>150, wordslers would have the same three initials?
A simple answer is: if you started counting all the protons in the
universe, one for the first square on the chessboard, two for the
next, four for the third, eight for the fourth etc, then just one
microsecond before you shit yourself of electric shock, someone
will be posting "Hi, my name is Alt Butt Harp, what's this exciting
Notesfile all about?"
>42. Nipper to Tushar: "Why not talk explicitly about named
>cultures. India vs. the US, for instance?"
> Yeah, Samant, don't be so damned coy! Out with it!
You know very well, Myles, that I am mulling over the profundities
therein, in whatever time I can get out of my busy schedule, before
saying anything about it. "Few but ripe" is my motto.
>43. Furthermore, Tushar, would you kindly tell me who is the
>"ax-wielding god" in Indian mythology who "swept the sea aside to
>uncover a state" that is "twice the size of Israel"?
Thanks for your interest in what happens to be my home state, Myles.
Just in case this is a homework question, let me merely say he is the
sixth incarnation and his name starts with a P and is not Pongo. He
is also the god who beheaded all the world's armies 21 times over,
not because he was a pacifist, but because armies just happened to
piss him off.
> And why have you never told us that pepper starts out as a berry?
Apologies for being remiss. Will I get a lousy T-shirt from your luxury
tour?
> Later Bonnie announced the winners: Marie, mem, and Nancy, three
I am awestruck. Attribution-dissing the Attribution Police themselves.
This needs cojones.
>58. The week ended with an orgy of shameless name-dropping. What
>a pathetic bunch of small-timers. Ha ha ha ha ha! I won't even get
>into it.
I wondered...
>61. Did I leave anyone out? That's okay. A little dose of humility
>never hurt anyone. Post your pathetic, whining, Chopped Liver note
>and I'll think about it.
With all due respect to Brad, this is the one character trait which
he lacked. He engineered his digests with an embarrassing socialness.
A good digester gone to hell because of diffidence...
tushar
Tushar Samant
>At 04:20 PM 11/11/95 -0500, Myles Callum wrote:
>> NAMBLA, whatever that is
>
>National American? Man-Boy Love Association. I do not like these people.
This reminds me of one of the commonest usenet postings. "I am
totally against discrimination against gays. BTW I am heterosexual."
tushar
Tushar Samant
>You don't know dick, Bonnie! I'm not some humorless stiff.
>I've tried to be upright. Why are you so hard on me?
>
>Myles' Column
Now don't you wish your name was O'collum?
tushar
Tushar Samant
>At 01:58 PM 11/11/95 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:
>
>>with an editorial injunction to one and all to visit Espen's web page
>>immediately and behold the image of a penit
>
>The fabled Eudora just bit me. That was to have read "the image of
>a penitent."
But the original sounds more badass... something like "behold the
jif of a penit".
tushar
Marty Rosen
I just love these things.
Nipper
Marty Rosen
On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Bonnie M. Voigtlander wrote:
>
> And who would be the other two most sincere people??
Don Moore would be both of them.
Nipper
Bookrat
>never hurt anyone. Post your pathetic, whining, Chopped Liver note
>and I'll think about it.
>Mules
61.5 Heather does a song-and-dance routine for the Wilds.
Ken Miller
Department of Phatic Drivel
Bernard Chien Perro Institute for Words-L Studies
boo...@bookrat.com
Bookrat
It's a homebrew club: the North American Man-Beer Love Association.
(My brewing guru once successfully conned a local journalist into believing
that this was the real name of a real club, and it was one of the names
that got into print.)
Ken Miller
Poetaster Emeritus
Anacreonitick Academy of Zymomusicology
boo...@bookrat.com
Espen S. Ore
>At 06:20 PM 11/11/95 -0500, Myles Callum wrote:
>>Correction: Marie, mem, and KAREN!!!!!!!! Still three of the nicest
>>people on the list.
>>
>>Sorry, my dear. I had too much sheep's brain with my hog head.
>
>
>Btw, I never meant to imply that we ate those things. It was just fun to see
>them.:)
I once bought a hog head to make something we call "sylte" in Norwegian. I
think there must be an English name for it since it is something that I
guess is made wherever one eats pig. First the head is boiled/simmered
until the meat is tender. Then the meat and the fat is piled up in layers
with the skin tied around the whole thing (and with salt, pepper and
allspice added between the layers). This is packed up in a piece of cloth
tightly tied. This is then boiled in the same water that was used for the
plain head for about 20 minutes. Then the package is laid somewhere under a
heavy wight (or if you are a pro you use a special press for this) for
about 12 hours. In Norway sylte is eaten cold in slices on bread. It is
very good with some sharp mustard and is a very Christmas kind of food. To
make it especially good calf meat might be added. Also if you fear that it
will not keep together you can cheat and add some gelatine.
espen - who doesn't know the game but is still making sheep's head today
Neal Traven
>think there must be an English name for it since it is something that I
>guess is made wherever one eats pig. First the head is boiled/simmered
>until the meat is tender. Then the meat and the fat is piled up in layers
>with the skin tied around the whole thing (and with salt, pepper and
>allspice added between the layers). This is packed up in a piece of cloth
>tightly tied. This is then boiled in the same water that was used for the
>plain head for about 20 minutes. Then the package is laid somewhere under a
>heavy wight (or if you are a pro you use a special press for this) for
>about 12 hours. In Norway sylte is eaten cold in slices on bread. It is
>very good with some sharp mustard and is a very Christmas kind of food. To
>make it especially good calf meat might be added. Also if you fear that it
>will not keep together you can cheat and add some gelatine.
I know two names for this stuff -- call it 'head cheese' or 'souse.'
Brought to you by the same people who make scrapple...everything but
the 'oink.'
---------------------------------------------------------------------
neal tra...@vms.cis.pitt.edu host of Wordstock '95...
(searching for an appropriate .sig quote)
Myles Callum
>Just in case this is a homework question, let me merely say he is the
>sixth incarnation and his name starts with a P and is not Pongo.
It's only mild curiosity, nothing for a good friend to worry about.
Another few sleepless nights and it will come to me. Give me a little
hint. What's the last letter?
You don't have to tell ME it's not Pongo. Do you take me for a
witless gudgeon? Pongo was the god of the Atari people, everyone
knows that.
Myles
JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR?-WILLIAMS
>
>brad
"But ah my friends, and oh my foes
what a lovely light it gives!"
JMW
MS SUE V HOOVER
I had too much sheep's brain with my hog head.
> I once bought a hog head to make something we call "sylte" in
Norwegian.
All this talk reminds me too much of the Head Cheese I grew up with and
ran away from. A Lithuanian delicacy.
sue
Janet W. Hardy
: > NAMBLA, whatever that is
: It's a homebrew club: the North American Man-Beer Love Association.
: (My brewing guru once successfully conned a local journalist into believing
: that this was the real name of a real club, and it was one of the names
: that got into print.)
I'm told one can actually buy a T-shirt for NAMSHLA -- the North American
Man-Sheep Love Association. Jay wants one ;) .
karlson stephen h
> 13. Lawrence mentioned a farmer's market in Detroit, where good
> produce could be found on early Saturday mornings. Karen said she
> LOVED that place because "you could buy hog's heads and sheep brains
> and fresh octopus there!" That girl knows how to make your mouth
> water, doesn't she?
The Eastern Market in Detroit is cool. The small farmers' market just
east of Wayne State University and south of Poletown was even neater.
> 16. Steve Karlson says real steam engines are green if they're not
> black, even though the Mallard was blue. Why are real engines green,
> Steve? (--Mules, born to be a straight man.)
Almost all North American steam locomotives are black. Southern Railway
(of the U.S.), Great Northern Railway (of the U.S.), and Great Western
Railway (England and Wales) are three class railroads that painted steam
locomotives green.
> 37. Steven H. Karlson, Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik. Would one of you
> statistics wizards tell me what the odds are that two out of, say,
> 150, wordslers would have the same three initials?
Erm, that's Stephen H. Karlson. For your discipline, you must ride the
back seat of the Coney Cyclone.
Any three initials: Calculate 1 - [1/(26^3) x (1/(25(26^2))) x
(1/(24(26^2))) x ...] (keep stepping down the numbers until you have a
product of 150 numbers).
Stephen Karlson ta0...@corn.cso.niu.edu GWR 2929
Can you imagine a real engine painted green and named Saint Steven, fer
cryin' out loud?
gilbertsmith
> annoying, but it was truly a pleasure to meet you both. I hardly
> expected to encounter such youthful, witty interviewers! Thanks again
> for your kind consideration. The Starkville, NC, campus is lovely!
>
Dear Mr. Mules:
Your pathetic thank-you note has convinced me that, in spite of the
fact that you are pure-dee Lacking In Class, and in spite of the fact
that you need a few lessons in job-hunting, and in spite of the fact
that you are grovelling and slobbering after this position, I am
please to inform you that, God-willing and baring accidents, the job
is yours. We are, so to speak, that kind of place.
Sincerely yours,
--Professor ggs
P.S. Do not go to Starkville. They are much less equipped than we to
take advantage of your inadequacies.
Roxanne Coyle
>> I once bought a hog head to make something we call "sylte" in
>Norwegian.
>
>All this talk reminds me too much of the Head Cheese I grew up with and
>ran away from. A Lithuanian delicacy.
>
>sue
And all this talk reminds me too much of Ren & Stimpy.
--
.'_`.
( @ @ )
`.X.' roxanne
aq...@lafn.org
Bookrat
stickshift). She was quite put out about it, too--I thought I heard
her mention something about chopped liver--but being <nice> she wasn't
about to mention it.
And as long as I'm in Nitpick Mode, Shoshana wasn't planning on going to
the *SF* book fair. (That would have been one heck of a drive for her.)
Ken Miller
Director of Diegesis
Gilbert G. Smith School of Journalism
boo...@bookrat.com
Myles Callum
Greetings,
That's nice to hear; thanks.
Myles
Myles Callum
>Myles, you also forgot Betty's new silver Shadow (the one with
>five-speed stickshift). She was quite put out about it, too--I
>thought I heard her mention something about chopped liver--but being
><nice> she wasn't about to mention it.
An inexcusable oversight; no slight intended. I don't save much
stuff, so perhaps Betty could post the information on her silver
Shadow again.
>And as long as I'm in Nitpick Mode, Shoshana wasn't planning on going
>to the *SF* book fair. (That would have been one heck of a drive for
>her.)
Business people often travel considerable distances to such fairs.
If she specified otherwise, however, then it's my mistake.
Myles
Karen Kay
> Business people often travel considerable distances to such fairs.
> If she specified otherwise, however, then it's my mistake.
I thought she said Burbank, but I may be mistaken, too.
Karen,
in Major Panic Mode
EEEEEK! I have to be in San Jose at 8AM tomorrow!!!!
Bree
> And as long as I'm in Nitpick Mode, Shoshana wasn't planning on going to
> the *SF* book fair. (That would have been one heck of a drive for her.)
>
Actually, I was going even farther. Boston, ABA fair, with some
bookselling on the side to dealers and a number of book buying stops
planned. We were to be gone for nearly a month, driving cross country
and back.
sho...
Ann Borkin
> EEEEEK! I have to be in San Jose at 8AM tomorrow!!!!
>
Good luck, Karen. I am having a panic attack in sympathy. I hope you're
not reading this before Monday, and certainly hope you're not reading
this because you got up in the night because ...
I think institutions should start a recognized tradition of hazing new
employees, instead of doing the job informally without a formal ending.
I have a stomach of iron, but the first-day lunch where somebody has to
take you out with people whose names you're trying to remember and whose
jobs you're trying to understand and who are jockeying around with their
own probably insane agendas ... well I just lost a grip on this sentence,
it is so electrofarting.
with best wishes,
Ann B.
Karen Kay
> Good luck, Karen. I am having a panic attack in sympathy.
:)
> I hope you're
> not reading this before Monday, and certainly hope you're not reading
> this because you got up in the night because ...
Oh, shit. It's only 7pm. I haven't even had dinner yet, Ann! Of course
I'm reading this before Monday.
> I think institutions should start a recognized tradition of hazing new
> employees, instead of doing the job informally without a formal ending.
> I have a stomach of iron, but the first-day lunch where somebody has to
> take you out with people whose names you're trying to remember and whose
> jobs you're trying to understand and who are jockeying around with their
> own probably insane agendas ... well I just lost a grip on this sentence,
> it is so electrofarting.
Aiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Actually, I'm lucky. I met everyone in the dept. except one guy who
isn't there much.
Breathe deeply. In... and out. In... and out. In... and out.
Where are those damned small paper bags?!
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Betty Clark
> in Major Panic Mode
>
Yes, Karen, and don't forget to get dressed. You have a <real> job now,
and it is required. No more sitting at home and playing on your computer.
Betty
Espen S. Ore
>
>Any three initials: Calculate 1 - [1/(26^3) x (1/(25(26^2))) x
>(1/(24(26^2))) x ...] (keep stepping down the numbers until you have a
>product of 150 numbers).
>
Any three initials in English. For Norwegian (or Danish or Swedish)
substitute 29 for 26.
espen
Betty Clark
> stuff, so perhaps Betty could post the information on her silver
> Shadow again.
That's okay. Ken took pictures with all of us around it. It is a 1989
silver Dodge Shadow, 5 speed. Only about 86,000 miles on it. It
replaces an old worn out station wagon.
Betty
Torkel Franzen
>Tushar screws up a simple probability question?
Tushar's reply is correct given the interpretation of the
question as "what is the probability that two given wordslers
have the same three initials". Of course, Tushar should have
realized that this was not the intended question, since he
dropped the "out of 150" part. Steve's reply, on the other hand,
was nonsensical. Let's give him a chance to redeem himself.
Paul BarfootPaul Barfoot
> >the three most sincere people on the list. And I like the way he
> >sticks up for his daughter. So sue me.
>
>
> And who would be the other two most sincere people??
Hey! No fair! I was gonna ask that.
Br P
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> bonniev, croneErgomaniac <ao...@yfn.ysu.edu>
> 11/10 5000m in 23:09 (2:18.94) talked whole way
>
Bookrat
>stuff, so perhaps Betty could post the information on her silver
>Shadow again.
>Business people often travel considerable distances to such fairs.
>If she specified otherwise, however, then it's my mistake.
>Myles
Uh-oh! Myles is being polite to me. He must be really pissed off.
Myles, buddy--you're doing a great job with those digests. You have, if I
may say so without sounding <groveling>, quite a talent for this sort of
thing.
However, I fear that I must admit that, despite my admiration of your
marvelously deft touch in matters of recapitulation, my innate
curmudgeonliness will undoubtedly compell me to pick nits as they come into
view.
Nonetheless, with great admiration, I remain,
Yours truly,
Ken Miller
Callum School of Good Digestion
boo...@bookrat.com
Bookrat
>> not reading this before Monday, and certainly hope you're not reading
>> this because you got up in the night because ...
>
>Oh, shit. It's only 7pm. I haven't even had dinner yet, Ann! Of course
>I'm reading this before Monday.
>Karen
What, are you one of those compulsive people who actually logs in *twice* a
day to check their email? :)
Ken Miller
Oscar Levant Mellowness Institute
boo...@bookrat.com
Bookrat
>chances are 1/26^3, i.e. 1 in 17576 (which also shows us that
>the stock market cannot deal with 17577 different businesses.)
>This of course assumes that there are as many Zacharys as there
>are Daves; a fact which Larry will be happy to prove with numbers.
>
>tushar
Tushar screws up a simple probability question? This day will undoubtedly
be annalled in the history books.
Ken Miller
Tuckers Chair of Philanthromathematics
Peters and Tuckers World University
boo...@bookrat.com
Bookrat
>like "cornerstone of belief systems," "mystical knowledge," and
>"social engineering" now under consideration. Or, if you prefer,
>under attack. The RRL (Rosen Rigor Level) now stands at DefCon 3.
steph, you listening? The proposed Wordsler Code should definitely include
an RRL component.
Ken Miller
Department of Semiotics
boo...@bookrat.com
Marcia Franzen
>test for the Swedish university system. Torkel went with her for
>moral support. She barfed up half her breakfast--I love these homey
>details, don't you?--took the test, and they left. Good luck, luv.
I wasn't going to mention this because I didn't want to OD all you
wonderful wordslers but now that Myles mentioned it.....I had another
test this past week on top of the university test for adult night
school classes (I need to go to night school for Swedish civics. A
must for my major). I already got the results back and I placed in
the highest percentile and am now qualitfied to "take any class at
adult night school that I wish."
Marcia
How many of you are going to go back and make sure I didn't skip or
repeat any numbers? Most compulsive list on the net! HA HA HA HA HA!!
roy_jaques_-_ens_benelux_-_system_technologist_28704
What me. as if ...
Roy
Betty Clark
> >and it is required. No more sitting at home and playing on your computer.
>
> one!!!!!!
You may need one. I passed on the rumor that it was you who was pregnant.
;)
Betty
Roxanne Coyle
>the highest percentile and am now qualitfied to "take any class at
>adult night school that I wish."
>
> Marcia
Way to go Marcia! Congratulations. Now go wave your results in front
of that bitchy admissions woman who was giving you such a tough time.
Natalie Maynor
> Karen
Did you look on the back of the seat in front of you?
--Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)
Annie Oreilly
mailbox-clearing frenzy. thanks.
annie
Natalie Maynor
> mailbox-clearing frenzy. thanks.
ftp ftp.msstate.edu
docs/words-l/List-Stuff/Digests/digest3.myles
(Or is it myles.digest3?)
or
http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/
click on something like "other files."
--Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)
Myles Callum
>ftp ftp.msstate.edu
>docs/words-l/List-Stuff/Digests/digest3.myles
>(Or is it myles.digest3?)
>
>or
>
>http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/
>click on something like "other files."
I don't know, I haven't looked, but I see there's a discrepancy
in our numbering. I guess you counted that first thing I did
as a digest, and I didn't, which is why I called the last one
#2 and you called it 3. Shall we just let it go on merrily this
way, to confuse future generations in the true spirit of diegesis?
I would ask the math wizards what to do, but God only knows what
they'd come up with. First they'd say I asked the question wrong,
then they'd jabber among themselves in Chinese, and two days later
Lawrence would saunter along and say something sensible, like, "Call
it 3A." You know what I mean?
Mules
Annie Oreilly
> That reminds me: Floreant Press. Where does the Floreant
> come from?
From my fevered brain. It means *let them bloom, let them prosper* in Latin.
Seemed apt, and I love the word itself.
annie
Tushar Samant
>No math wizard I, but there is a nicer solution. Just call the first
>thing Digest #0. That way, no other renumbering is necessary, and no one
>is confused (except for those poor souls who aren't clear on the concept
>of index-0).
This is too ingenious, and way too elaborate to be usable. Why should
Natalie number the FIRST thing #0, it just ain't natural. I would
suggest starting two different numbering conventions: the Mutant City
(MC1) convention, as opposed to the author Myles Callum's convention
(MC2), thus #2 in base MC1 is #1 in base MC2, and conversely #2 in base
MC2 happens to be just the opposite, i.e. #3 in base MC1. This is easy
and convenient to remember and convert to and from, because if a digest
is called "#m in base MC(n)", then m+n is constant, which we will call
the universal MC number. This has the advantage of being extensible,
because if a new subscriber with initials MC wanted his own numbering
system, we don't have to rework everything laboriously; just call him
MC3 and he gets jurisdiction of anything from the 4th digest onwards,
by which I of course mean the universal MC number 4, which would be
only the #2 digest according to Myles. The only controversial point
is that if Mutant City were named as such after Myles Callum's
appearance, then we will have to relabel the two to their exact
opposites, and then restore the constant by defining it to be m-n
in the notation established above, thus giving negative universal MC
numbers.
Finally, this can be made even more general by establishing sensible
MC numbers for people whose initials are not even remotely "M.C.", by
sticking to the following simple system: count the number of letters
backwards or forwards from M to the subject's first initial, and do
the same for C and the last initial--and then notate it thus: -6M+16C,
for e.g. Gilbert Smith, and then extend it over initial-clashes by the
scheme above, namely -6M+16C1 for Gilbert Smith and -6M16C2 for the
Great Gobboon of the Snortfardles (assuming the latter indeed joined
the list or was named as such after Gilbert Smith). Once this is done,
everyone has a convenient private numbering system, and once it's
programmed in their mailers, each mailer will automatically translate
digest number into the user's conventions by automatically guessing
the user's name, thus making it perfectly transparent to everyone.
tushar
Myles Callum
>mailbox-clearing frenzy. thanks.
I've sent one to Annie.
That reminds me: Floreant Press. Where does the Floreant
come from?
Myles
Natalie Maynor
> as a digest, and I didn't, which is why I called the last one
> #2 and you called it 3. Shall we just let it go on merrily this
> way, to confuse future generations in the true spirit of diegesis?
But did you call it #2? I didn't remember that. Oh dear. This
is getting awfully complicated. Maybe the solution will come to me
in a dream tonight.
--Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)
Natalie Maynor
> thing Digest #0. That way, no other renumbering is necessary, and no one
The first one is named digest:
ARCHIVE% ls
digest.myles digest2.myles digest30 digest42 digest54
digest1 digest20 digest31 digest43 digest55
digest10 digest21 digest32 digest44 digest56
digest11 digest22 digest33 digest45 digest57
digest12 digest23 digest34 digest46 digest58
digest13 digest24 digest35 digest47 digest59
digest14 digest25 digest36 digest48 digest6
digest15 digest26 digest37 digest49 digest60
digest16 digest27 digest38 digest5 digest61
digest17 digest28 digest39 digest50 digest7
digest18 digest29 digest4 digest51 digest8
digest19 digest3 digest40 digest52 digest9
digest2 digest3.myles digest41 digest53
Karen Kay
>You may need one. I passed on the rumor that it was you who was pregnant.
Passed on to where? Not the meno list! Betty, are you trying to use me to
change from being Nice Betty to being Snotty Betty? Do you think I'll be too
tired and distracted this week to notice? (I will, for sure, but that's
another story...)
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Karen Kay
>> Where are those damned small paper bags?!
>
There was no seat in front of me when I wrote that.
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Betty Clark
> change from being Nice Betty to being Snotty Betty? Do you think I'll be too
> tired and distracted this week to notice? (I will, for sure, but that's
> another story...)
Heavens, no!! That is up to Inez. How did the first day go?
Betty
Karen Kay
>Heavens, no!! That is up to Inez. How did the first day go?
Inez?
The first day was fine. I think I can like this, once I get some light in my
cubicle. And if I can make the font bigger.:)
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Steph Mandell
= >under attack. The RRL (Rosen Rigor Level) now stands at DefCon 3.
=
= steph, you listening? The proposed Wordsler Code should definitely include
= an RRL component.
=
I dunno. He is verbose, but does he deserve to have both RRL and Nipper
Points? It is cool, but it doesn't look like swearing...
=
= Nipper Points
=
= # phatic drivel
= & occasional monolog on an expert subject
= + story teller
= % some give and take on a topic
= * will discuss and refute until everyone else is finished
=
steph
Natalie Maynor
One of the various names of the lurker who forwards mail maliciously,
right?
--Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)
Tony Harminc
>No math wizard I, but there is a nicer solution. Just call the first
>thing Digest #0. That way, no other renumbering is necessary, and no one
>is confused (except for those poor souls who aren't clear on the concept
>of index-0).
>
>Ken Miller
>Department of Repagination
>boo...@bookrat.com
Or perhaps:
College of Cardinality
Tony H.
Betty Clark
AKA, Kathy House.
>
> The first day was fine. I think I can like this, once I get some light in my
> cubicle. And if I can make the font bigger.:)
How big is your screen?
Betty
Betty Clark
>
> One of the various names of the lurker who forwards mail maliciously,
> right?
Right.
Karen Kay
> > Inez?
> AKA, Kathy House.
Got it. I don't worry about the rumors she spreads, though.:)
> How big is your screen?
Huge. 20 or 21 inches. Btw, Roy was wrong. There is no mailtool. There
may be one somewhere, but ... The part I hate most about UNIX is
setting it up. And X Windows is just UNIX to the max.
Karen
kar...@netcom.com
Victoria Lawson
>Myles, you have outdone yourself! This is so great that I hate to
>quibble and point out that I was not one of the nice-people winners in
>Bonnie's contest...but other than that it was delightful. I can hardly
>wait till next week!
>-----Nancy Harwood-----------------------------------------------------------
>har...@tenet.edu News is *not* more important than breakfast.
> But e-mail might be.
> --Mic Kaczmarczik
E-mail IS definitely more important than breakfast... I cannot live
without it.
And I will not live and breathe until the next (Not Exactly a) digest
arrives.
thank you for the first smile of my day.
vicki
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You've got crayon teeth, crayon teeth
Rainbows in your molars
- Largesse Duckworth
karsten
[...]
Does this guy kiboze or did one of you contact him?
I haven't seen him since I killfiled him on soc.motss,
and I haven't missed him.
--karsten
Paul Kuritz
Ever think of visiting Maine ? Why not now? It's hunting season. You van
stop in Freeport and pick up some nice brown Mainewear at Bean's so you can
fit into our wooded scene.
p
Roy Radow
>Bookrat (boo...@BOOKRAT.COM) wrote:
>: > NAMBLA, whatever that is
>: It's a homebrew club: the North American Man-Beer Love Association.
>: (My brewing guru once successfully conned a local journalist into believing
>: that this was the real name of a real club, and it was one of the names
>: that got into print.)
>I'm told one can actually buy a T-shirt for NAMSHLA -- the North American
>Man-Sheep Love Association. Jay wants one ;) .
Actually it's the North American Man/Boy Love Association.
"Kids"- ok, "Sheep"- Baaaaaa. :-)
The North American Man/Boy Love Association is a civil rights/
political organization. We support CONSENSUAL intergenerational
relationships and help educate society about the true nature of
such relationships.
We were founded in Boston in 1978 and currently have more than
one thousand members worldwide.
NAMBLA activities include speaking to university & community
groups, appearing on television and radio, conducting public
forums, and holding an annual NAMBLA conference.
NAMBLA publishes the "NAMBLA Bulletin" which is sent by
first class mail to our members. (It includes news, feature
articles, letters, book reviews, short stories, etc.) We also
publish a literary Journal, books and other material (all of
which are strictly legal).
We also have a publications list which includes over 100
titles of books (fiction and non-fiction) and periodicals
which are available for sale.
We march in Gay & Lesbian Pride Day parades in Boston,
New York and San Francisco. And are involved in other
gay & lesbian activities here and abroad.
Our membership includes people of all ages, genders, and
sexual orientations. (The youngest member of our Bulletin
Collective was 11 years old when he began writing a feature
column for our publication.)
Although NAMBLA members hold diverse political views, as a group
we take a progressive stance on the rights of the individual, and
youth liberation and empowerment.
NAMBLA does not provide referrals or assistance for people seeking
sexual contacts, nor do we engage in activities that violate the law.
We unequivocally condemn all coercive acts, sexual or otherwise.
If you are interested in receiving a sample copy of our Bulletin,
information regarding membership or our publications list please
write to the address below.
A list of recommended readings, quotes about intergenerational
relationship and NAMBLA by prominent people in the movement, and
a short annotated list of research in the area are available via
email upon request.
Yours in Liberation,
Roy
--
Roy Radow Now: ra...@netcom.com (was: r...@panix.com)
North American Man/Boy Love Association -For membership info & brochure
write to: NAMBLA, Dept. RR, PO Box 174, Midtown Station, NYC, NY 10018.
Send $5 for a sample Bulletin. Publications list available upon request.
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karsten
> Wasn't me. What's "kiboze"?
Shhh. I'm trying to find out if I'm in Akio's killfile.
It seems like it's been at least a year since I was last
gleaned.
--karsten
Rashmi
> Shhh. I'm trying to find out if I'm in Akio's killfile.
> It seems like it's been at least a year since I was last
> gleaned.
Damn. Now I see this.
Sorry, karsten.
-rashmi
Bookrat
>: Roy Radow (ra...@netcom.com) blathered on:
>: [...]
>
>: Does this guy kiboze or did one of you contact him?
>
>
A verb meaning "to grep all Usenet for a selected word or words". It's a
portmanteau word, a combination of "Kibo" and "bulldoze". Kibo used to
answer every post, in every newsgroup, that contained his name. (He might
answer this one, but Usenet is a lot larger than it used to be.)
(Speaking of email brushes with fame, I once got personal email from him.)
It's a relatively simple, if time-consuming, task to scan all newsgroups
for selected words. Something to think about.
Ken Miller
Systems Annalist
Babbage Engine Works
boo...@bookrat.com
roy_jaques_-_ens_benelux_-_system_technologist_28704
>
> It seems like it's been at least a year since I was last
> gleaned.
>
So you have that feeling too.
> --karsten
Roy