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Bocknobby  
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From: Bocknobby <BHOL...@FLEMINGC.ON.CA>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:07:49 -0500
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

> I just finished reading a murder mystery that takes place in
> Saskatchewan, and at one point, they go to a restaurant and eat fries
> and gravy. Is this French fries and gravy? Sounded pretty ucky.

> Karen
>   kar...@netcom.com

    V-e-r-y popular Canadian cuisine.  And the French-Canadian
version from Quebec and New Brunswick (spreading across the country
courtesy of at least two fast food chains), poutine (french fries,
gravy and (melted) cheddar cheese.

bhol...@flemingc.on.ca


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From: Sylvia Edwards <sedwa...@KCMETRO.CC.MO.US>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:57:45 -0600
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In message <9411011011.AA16...@kcmetro.cc.mo.us> English Language Discussion

Group writes:
> >and gravy. Is this French fries and gravy? Sounded pretty ucky.

> >Karen

> Here we eat fries with mayo.  Would you like some fat with your
> grease?  It really tastes pretty good, as the mayo is tangy.  The
> other thing I like on fries is sate sauce.  Or sate sauce and
> ketchup.  Of course the fries are pretty good without anything on
> them at all.

> s

My son loves cheese fries with Ranch salad dreesing.

Sylvia L. Edwards
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"Be enthusiastic about the success of others."


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From: keeper of the fish <HHEW1...@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 08:51:48 EST
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>>and gravy. Is this French fries and gravy? Sounded pretty ucky.

>>Karen

The only thing I ever drown my french fries in is mustard. By the
way, the "f" of the french isn't capitalised, 'cause it doesn't have
anything to do with France- it's just a style of cutting. Then again,
I could be wrong. Whatever. But I would never eat plain fries. I view
them as vehicles for various condiments, and nothing more. It would
be sort of like eating one of those "Fun Dip" or whatever-they're-called
sticks (stix?) without dipping it in the grape/cherry/mystery flavoured
pouch. Right then. Onto the next notice.

                                     heather "the fun dip"hewitt


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Karen Kay  
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 21:56:02 GMT
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?
Paul Barfoot (PRBAR...@HAWK.SYR.EDU) wrote:

:  In Romania we had ffs (invariably soggy) with nearly every meal,
: sometimes even breakfast. (Natalie, haven't we had the "potatoes
: for breakfast" discussion one or two times before?)

When I took students to Japan, we had a stunning onion and french
fry casserole for breakfast one morning. It was *the* most vomitous
meal I've ever had. Talk about cultural miscommunication...

Karen
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Paul Kuritz  
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:42:57 -0500
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> <in> my "sheltered youth"  Unversed in the way of the fry-mutilators

> heather"does that mean I'm innocent?"hewitt

Guess how I vote?

        p


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 19:16:56 -0500
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

I can feel my arteries clogging up...

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Paul Kuritz  
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:28:46 -0500
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> > Is vinegar on french fries a Pennsylvania thing?

> > Marie

>  I thought it was a Brit thing, although my first encounter with

        Long John Silver restaurants used to serve fries as the "chips" with
their fish and chips. A bottle of vinegar was on each table in the
restaurant.

        p>


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From: Jim Bradley <FNA...@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:56:00 EST
Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>On Tue, 1 Nov 1994 13:12:28 EST Jim Bradley said:
>>>Is vinegar on french fries a Pennsylvania thing?

>>I thought it was a Rhode Island thing. I never heard of anything
>>but ketchup in Phila. and NJ. 'Course that was in my sheltered youth.

>Fair food.  FF's w/ vinegar for dinner, and a funnel cake for dessert.

>Was that youth of yours spent sheltered in Philly/South Jersey, Jim?

Yep. Philly (Germantown) in the winter, Toms River in the summer.
After starting college, it was Providence in winter, lifeguarding in
Long Beach Island in summer.

/Jim


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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>>My son loves cheese fries with Ranch salad dreesing.
>>Sylvia L. Edwards

I have recently been converted to the joy of eating fries with
horseradish sauce.

bz


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From: Ol' blue eyes <TRA...@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 11:06:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>>        Needless to say, I can place a pilgrimage to the O on the Hayride
>>        '95 planning board ... it's a hop-step-and-a-jump from the former
>        Do they have mustard? (Try it. It's good.)

Mustard, of the brown variety, is seen only behind the hot dog counter.
Sorry, Heather.

>         heather, who will not have sex in a canoe, but is willing to try a
>  variety of condiments. On her french fries, that is.

Yes, they do have Coors among the scores of varieties of beers.  Though I'd
prefer to avoid anyone who drinks it (for both aesthetic and political
reasons).

Since you aren't willing to vary your condiments for canoe sex, may I ask
which one(s) you require?  The Clarion and Allegheny Rivers are primo
canoeing waters.

[PS.  Got some ID showing that you're old enough for that brew, missy?]

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Judith E. Schrier  
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From: "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIM...@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>That reminds me, Judith.  We forgot to eat the chicken for breakfast.
>Or rather you forgot to.  I never planned to.

That was because we had to use up the leftover bread as French toast.
You can use some of the chicken in a stir-fry this evening.

>Judith should be safely back in the land of potatoes for breakfast now.
>She almost got to spend one more day in the land of grits, however.  We
>discovered after getting to the airport today that her ticket was for
>tomorrow.  But at the eleventh hour (or really the 59th minute), they
>let her on.
>   --Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)

You *told*!  I am *so* ashamed that I never checked the date on
my ticket!  Agonized all the time I was sitting and wondering if
I'd be getting on the next plane, because there was nobody to
blame but myself!  Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Did I mention that I almost spent a night in *Memphis*? Because the
plane out was "full" (although the agent in Starkville had said
that would be "no problem") and they only gave me a boarding pass
at the very last minute, after everyone else was on.  They had
even asked for volunteers to GIVE UP THEIR SEATS and fly later in
case it was necessary!

Had a wonderful time, aside from that, but glad to be home again.
Thank you, Natalie and Natalie's mother, for the wonderful hospitality!

love, judith


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Natalie Maynor  
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From: Natalie Maynor <may...@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:39:39 -0600
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

> sometimes even breakfast. (Natalie, haven't we had the "potatoes
> for breakfast" discussion one or two times before?)

Yes.  Yuck.

That reminds me, Judith.  We forgot to eat the chicken for breakfast.
Or rather you forgot to.  I never planned to.

Judith should be safely back in the land of potatoes for breakfast now.
She almost got to spend one more day in the land of grits, however.  We
discovered after getting to the airport today that her ticket was for
tomorrow.  But at the eleventh hour (or really the 59th minute), they
let her on.
   --Natalie (may...@ra.msstate.edu)


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Karen Kay (kar...@NETCOM.COM) wrote:

: > To be honest, though, I've never read one of
: > her books. I have heard radio adaptations of some of them, but I should
: > read a few sometime.

: I liked this one and intend to read more.

Murder at the Mendel is supposed to be good. It might have a different
name in the States because the Mendel Art Gallery here in Saskatoon
wasn't too impressed by the title (I could see the Mendel if I were to
stand on the roof of my house and if it wasn't snowing lynxes and wolves
as it is today). There's also one about a premeir of Saskatchewan who is
assasinated (this hasn't happened before, but it's been considered). I'm
not a big fan of mysteries, so I don't read them very often.

        -Robert Duncan  robert.dun...@usask.ca


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:47:20 -0400
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>keeper of the fish said:
>> The only thing I ever drown my french fries in is mustard. By the
>> way, the "f" of the french isn't capitalised, 'cause it doesn't have
>> anything to do with France- it's just a style of cutting. Then again,
>> I could be wrong.

        Most of the choices in this thread sounded great.  Except for
        Heather's (sorry, kid, I calls 'em like I sees 'em).  Doesn't
        matter whether you're talking yellow, brown, Pommery, Dijon,
        Chinese ... they all sound awful.

>I don't know. All I know is that everything comes with them in Paris.

>> But I would never eat plain fries.

>And I would never eat them with anything on them. That's why the
>quality of the fry is crucial.

>Karen
>  kar...@netcom.com

        I wouldn't think of eating Belgian/Dutch fries from a street
        vendor except with a dollop of deliciously tangy mayonnaise
        -- it's an irresistible combination.

        American french fries, cut much thicker so you can savor the
        mealiness of those wonderful Idahoes, can be combined with a
        myriad of condiments.  As Karen says, the quality of the fry
        is critically important -- the right temperature (for both
        fryings), clean oil, correct timing.

        One of the pleasures of Pittsburgh is eating fries at 'The O'
        -- that's the nickname for 'The Original Hot Dog Shop' in
        Oakland (a mere 2 blocks from my office).  The taters are cooked
        <perfectly> and the portions are ... well, let me put it this
        way:  more fries *fall off* a small O-fries onto your tray than
        *go in* a large from MickeyD or Wendy's.  A medium (along with
        one of their great beef sausages for each person) will *sate*
        a foursome.  They've been known to warn newbies who unsuspectingly
        order an extra large.

        O-fries come with Heinz ketchup by default.  Malt vinegar (that's
        British, as in fish-n-chips) is always available, as is garlic
        powder.  For an extra charge, you can get a side of warm CheezWiz
        (Mary Lynn wouldn't have it any other way) or some beef gravy.
        The O isn't a satay kinda place.

        Needless to say, I can place a pilgrimage to the O on the Hayride
        '95 planning board ... it's a hop-step-and-a-jump from the former
        site of Forbes Field, a block or two from Pitt's central library,
        and almost as close to the Carnegie Museum (dinosaurs!, gemstones!,
        art and architecture!) and the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh.

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From: keeper of the fish <HHEW1...@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:57:36 EST
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>> <in> my "sheltered youth"  Unversed in the way of the fry-mutilators

>> heather"does that mean I'm innocent?"hewitt

>Guess how I vote?

>        p

Um, you flick a little switch?

         heather


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From: keeper of the fish <HHEW1...@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 23:20:00 EST
Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>        Long John Silver restaurants used to serve fries as the "chips" with
>their fish and chips. A bottle of vinegar was on each table in the
>restaurant.

>        p>

What the hell else would they serve as chips in "fish and chips"? A bottle
of vinegar is on <most> rest.tables out here. In the diners/Newport Creameries/
wiener (weiner? they both look weird) joints, etc. And I thought <I> lead a
sheltered life. Ever have sex in a canoe, Paul?

heather


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From: keeper of the fish <HHEW1...@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 23:35:06 EST
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>        Needless to say, I can place a pilgrimage to the O on the Hayride
>        '95 planning board ... it's a hop-step-and-a-jump from the former
>        site of Forbes Field, a block or two from Pitt's central library,
>        and almost as close to the Carnegie Museum (dinosaurs!, gemstones!,
>        art and architecture!) and the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh.

        Do they have mustard? (Try it. It's good.)

         heather, who will not have sex in a canoe, but is willing to try a
  variety of condiments. On her french fries, that is.


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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 13:56:37 CST
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

book...@bookrat.com writes:
>>> sometimes even breakfast. (Natalie, haven't we had the "potatoes
>>> for breakfast" discussion one or two times before?)

>>Yes.  Yuck.

>>That reminds me, Judith.  We forgot to eat the chicken for breakfast.
>>Or rather you forgot to.  I never planned to.

>Was this chicken already acephalic, or was someone planning to perform the
>decapitation experiment?

This topic is now closed.

tushar


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Marie Tomlinson said:

> Satay is
> indigenous to Indonesia

Which explains why you'd find it in the Netherlands.

Thanks for checking this out, Marie. (I'm glad I'm not the only one who
thought it was odd to associate it with Thai food.)

Karen
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John Duncan said:

> To be honest, though, I've never read one of
> her books. I have heard radio adaptations of some of them, but I should
> read a few sometime.

I liked this one and intend to read more.

Karen
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>> sometimes even breakfast. (Natalie, haven't we had the "potatoes
>> for breakfast" discussion one or two times before?)

>Yes.  Yuck.

>That reminds me, Judith.  We forgot to eat the chicken for breakfast.
>Or rather you forgot to.  I never planned to.

Was this chicken already acephalic, or was someone planning to perform the
decapitation experiment?

Ken Miller
Staff Poultrologist
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Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?

>My son loves cheese fries with Ranch salad dreesing.
>Sylvia L. Edwards

When I worked at Jack in the Box I ate a fair number of fries
with Ranch Dressing.

s


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>wiener (weiner? they both look weird)

Not if you've ever been to Wien.

(I'll leave the more obvious rejoinder for someone more depraved than I.)

Ken Miller
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Duncan, John  
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 More options Nov 11 1994, 5:27 pm
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From: DUNC...@skyfox.usask.ca (Duncan, John)
Date: 11 Nov 1994 22:27:09 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 11 1994 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?
I was reading through a MacLean's Magazine today and came accross an article
on Poutine that I thought I should share. Poutine (a combination of fries,
gravy and cheese) is from Quebec and is apparently the "binge food of
choice" at eastern Canadian universities.

At Wilfred Laurier University in Ontario, the ideal poutine has light crispy
fries covered with gravy and grated mozzarella. (Normally cheese curds are
used).

At Bishop's university in Quebec, the recipe is more tradional. A kitchen
person there says: "It's just frozen french fries, gravy and some chese. But
those kids just go crazy for it. From Wednesday to Saturday, that's all
they order. Don't ask me [why]. It's chep, and it's filing, and they are
usually pretty intoxicated, so I don't think they really care."

Says a student: "Three food groups are represented in poutine. You've got
dairy with the cheese, the potato is vegetable. And I guess the gravy used to
be meat at one point, right?"

Robert Duncan
Whose cats are playing. One is hiding in a paper bag, the other is
running around with her tail all puffed up.


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Karen Kay  
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 More options Nov 11 1994, 7:56 pm
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From: Karen Kay <kar...@NETCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:56:09 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 11 1994 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Fries and gravy?
Bill Holler at For. Lang. & Lit. said:

> Amour without u suddenly becomes Spanishy, doesn't it?  What's-his-
> name Iglesia and a lot of soupy singing.

Julio Iglesias. I thought he was Brazilian. Is Portuguese Spanishy?

Karen
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