I am collecting information about REXX ATTACH. Does it work like MVS ATTACH? My idea is to write a Rexx program that will display a menu. Each selection from the dialog will start a subtask using Rexx attachpgm. If the user hits a hot key, let say, PF01, the mother task will get control without stopping the child task. Is this possible to do with Rexx Attach cmd?
Itschak
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> I am collecting information about REXX ATTACH. Does it work like > MVS ATTACH? > My idea is to write a Rexx program that will display a menu. Each > selection > from the dialog will start a subtask using Rexx attachpgm. If the > user hits > a hot key, let say, PF01, the mother task will get control without > stopping > the child task. Is this possible to do with Rexx Attach cmd?
I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ ATTCHMVS issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to complete then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
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> On Oct 27, 2009, at 06:28, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> I am collecting information about REXX ATTACH. Does it work like >> MVS ATTACH? >> My idea is to write a Rexx program that will display a menu. Each >> selection >> from the dialog will start a subtask using Rexx attachpgm. If the >> user hits >> a hot key, let say, PF01, the mother task will get control without >> stopping >> the child task. Is this possible to do with Rexx Attach cmd?
>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ > ATTCHMVS > issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to complete > then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
> -- gil
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> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :- > ( The > solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler > there at > all.
The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.
If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".
I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC, but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses them. Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ >>> ATTCHMVS >> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to >> complete >> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
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Let's say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save & restore the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen image including the attribute characters?
ITschak
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 07:31, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :- >> ( The >> solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler >> there at >> all.
>> The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.
> If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".
> I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC, > but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx > won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses > them. Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin >> <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
>>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ >>>> ATTCHMVS
>>> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to >>> complete >>> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
> -- gil
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:20:34 +0200 Itschak Mugzach <imugz...@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
:>Let's say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save & :>restore the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen image :>including the attribute characters?
Under TSO a program should be ready to refresh itself from an out-of-line message. Typical way is via PA2.
:>On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
:>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 07:31, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
:>>> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :- :>>> ( The :>>> solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler :>>> there at :>>> all.
:>>> The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.
:>> If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".
:>> I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC, :>> but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx :>> won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses :>> them. Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?
:>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin :>>> <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
:>>>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ :>>>>> ATTCHMVS
:>>>> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to :>>>> complete :>>>> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies.
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> wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:20:34 +0200 Itschak Mugzach <imugz...@GMAIL.COM> > wrote:
> :>Let's say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save & > :>restore the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen > image > :>including the attribute characters?
> Under TSO a program should be ready to refresh itself from an out-of-line > message. Typical way is via PA2.
> :>On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin <PaulGBoul...@aim.com > >wrote:
> :>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 07:31, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> :>>> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :- > :>>> ( The > :>>> solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler > :>>> there at > :>>> all.
> :>>> The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.
> :>> If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".
> :>> I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC, > :>> but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx > :>> won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses > :>> them. Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?
> :>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin > :>>> <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
> :>>>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ > :>>>>> ATTCHMVS
> :>>>> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to > :>>>> complete > :>>>> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
> Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
> I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, > especially those from irresponsible companies.
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Let's say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save & restore the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen image including the attribute characters?
ITschak
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 07:31, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :- >> ( The >> solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler >> there at >> all.
>> The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.
> If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".
> I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC, > but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx > won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses > them. Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin >> <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
>>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ >>>> ATTCHMVS
>>> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to >>> complete >>> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
> -- gil
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Rob, not really. The problem I am trying to solve (Multi-session under single TSO seesion) is not a problem under TSO, as it support spliting the screen into logical screens.
> In a message dated 10/28/2009 12:20:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, > imugz...@GMAIL.COM writes:
> Let's say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save & > restore the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen > image > including the attribute characters?
> ITschak
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
> > On Oct 27, 2009, at 07:31, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> >> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :- > >> ( The > >> solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler > >> there at > >> all.
> >> The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.
> > If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".
> > I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC, > > but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx > > won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses > > them. Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin > >> <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:
> >>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/ > >>>> ATTCHMVS
> >>> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to > >>> complete > >>> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.
> > -- gil
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> Rob, not really. The problem I am trying to solve (Multi-session under > single TSO seesion) is not a problem under TSO, as it support > spliting the > screen into logical screens.
Doesn't TSO (and under it ISPF) adamantly resist concurrent processing of TSO commands? (Regardless, a TSO session may CALL a single program which itself ATTACHes multiple concurrent children.)
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> On Oct 28, 2009, at 08:12, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> Rob, not really. The problem I am trying to solve (Multi-session under >> single TSO seesion) is not a problem under TSO, as it support >> spliting the >> screen into logical screens.
>> Doesn't TSO (and under it ISPF) adamantly resist concurrent > processing of TSO commands? (Regardless, a TSO session may > CALL a single program which itself ATTACHes multiple concurrent > children.)
> -- gil
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