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Itschak Mugzach  
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 More options Oct 27, 8:29 am
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From: imugz...@GMAIL.COM (Itschak Mugzach)
Date: 27 Oct 2009 05:29:09 -0700
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Subject: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
I am collecting information about REXX ATTACH. Does it work like MVS ATTACH?
My idea is to write a Rexx program that will display a menu. Each selection
from the dialog will start a subtask using Rexx attachpgm. If the user hits
a hot key, let say, PF01, the mother task will get control without stopping
the child task. Is this possible to do with Rexx Attach cmd?

Itschak

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Paul Gilmartin  
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 More options Oct 27, 9:04 am
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From: PaulGBoul...@AIM.COM (Paul Gilmartin)
Date: 27 Oct 2009 06:04:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
On Oct 27, 2009, at 06:28, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

> I am collecting information about REXX ATTACH. Does it work like
> MVS ATTACH?
> My idea is to write a Rexx program that will display a menu. Each
> selection
> from the dialog will start a subtask using Rexx attachpgm. If the
> user hits
> a hot key, let say, PF01, the mother task will get control without
> stopping
> the child task. Is this possible to do with Rexx Attach cmd?

I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/
ATTCHMVS
issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to complete
then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.

-- gil

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Itschak Mugzach  
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 More options Oct 27, 9:31 am
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From: imugz...@GMAIL.COM (Itschak Mugzach)
Date: 27 Oct 2009 06:31:33 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
Paul,

If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :-( The
solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler there at
all.

ITschak

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Paul Gilmartin  
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 More options Oct 27, 9:44 am
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From: PaulGBoul...@AIM.COM (Paul Gilmartin)
Date: 27 Oct 2009 06:44:21 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
On Oct 27, 2009, at 07:31, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :-
> ( The
> solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler
> there at
> all.

The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.

If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".

I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC,
but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx
won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses
them.  Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?

> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin
> <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:

>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/
>>> ATTCHMVS
>> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to
>> complete
>> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.

-- gil

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Itschak Mugzach  
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From: imugz...@GMAIL.COM (Itschak Mugzach)
Date: 28 Oct 2009 00:20:39 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
Let's say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save &
restore the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen image
including the attribute characters?

ITschak

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Binyamin Dissen  
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 More options Oct 28, 7:28 am
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From: bdis...@DISSENSOFTWARE.COM (Binyamin Dissen)
Date: 28 Oct 2009 04:28:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:20:34 +0200 Itschak Mugzach <imugz...@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

:>Let's say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save &
:>restore the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen image
:>including the attribute characters?

Under TSO a program should be ready to refresh itself from an out-of-line
message. Typical way is via PA2.

:>On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:

:>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 07:31, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

:>>> If it works this way, it is really disappointing. I hope it not :-
:>>> ( The
:>>> solution must be inexpensive, so I don't want to code assembler
:>>> there at
:>>> all.

:>>> The designers failed to grasp the concept of ATTACH.

:>> If you need concurrency, you might consider "address SYSCALL spawn".

:>> I considered writing an assembler interface to the ATTACH SVC,
:>> but the stumbling block is that I have no assurance that Rexx
:>> won't relocate the argument variables before the child accesses
:>> them.  Does anyone know the details of Rexx storage management?

:>>  On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin
:>>> <PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:

:>>>>> I believe that all of the subcommand environments ATTACH/ATTCHPGM/
:>>>>> ATTCHMVS

:>>>> issue MVS ATTACH then, disappointingly, WAIT for the child to
:>>>> complete
:>>>> then DETACH it before returning to the Rexx program.

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Itschak Mugzach  
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 More options Oct 28, 7:33 am
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From: imugz...@GMAIL.COM (Itschak Mugzach)
Date: 28 Oct 2009 04:33:48 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
Thanks Binyamin,

I hope the developer of the tso based products does that...

Regards,

ITschak

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Robert Zenuk  
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 More options Oct 28, 8:50 am
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From: Robze...@AOL.COM (Robert Zenuk)
Date: 28 Oct 2009 05:50:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
While this suggestion is ISPF specific, does the &ZSCREENI  variable help?

/* rexx */
address ISPEXEC "VGET (ZSCREENI)"
say zscreeni

Rob

In a message dated 10/28/2009 12:20:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,

imugz...@GMAIL.COM writes:

Let's  say I solved the task switching problem, I still have to save &
restore  the screen image. Any idea how to "read" & "write" the screen
image
including the attribute characters?

ITschak

On Tue, Oct  27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin
<PaulGBoul...@aim.com>wrote:

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Itschak Mugzach  
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 More options Oct 28, 10:13 am
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From: imugz...@GMAIL.COM (Itschak Mugzach)
Date: 28 Oct 2009 07:13:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
Rob, not really. The problem I am trying to solve (Multi-session under
single TSO seesion) is not a problem under TSO, as it support spliting the
screen into logical screens.

ITschak

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Date: 28 Oct 2009 07:43:40 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
On Oct 28, 2009, at 08:12, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

> Rob, not really. The problem I am trying to solve (Multi-session under
> single TSO seesion) is not a problem under TSO, as it support
> spliting the
> screen into logical screens.

Doesn't TSO (and under it ISPF) adamantly resist concurrent
processing of TSO commands?  (Regardless, a TSO session may
CALL a single program which itself ATTACHes multiple concurrent
children.)

-- gil

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Itschak Mugzach  
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 More options Oct 28, 10:56 am
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From: imugz...@GMAIL.COM (Itschak Mugzach)
Date: 28 Oct 2009 07:56:28 -0700
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Subject: Re: Rexx ATTACH TCB tree
That is true, but under TSO you can't navigate between sub-tasks... It might
be NAT in one task and listcat output in another task (for example).

ITschak

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