Fw: Dashboard?
Scott T. Harder
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott T. Harder" <scott....@embarqmail.com>
To: "ISPF Listserv" <ISP...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Dashboard?
> Wow.... did not know that. Very cool.
>
> Scott T. Harder
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Leahy" <don....@LEACOM.CA>
> To: <ISP...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Dashboard?
>
>
>> FWIW, you can also pre-process non-DTL panels using the ISPPREP command.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 15:12, Scott T. Harder
>> <scottyt...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> In this case, and keeping with CUA, there *will* be an action bar; so I
>>> thought that would be a gr8 place for DASH, along with a <ps> field
>>> somewhere on the panel.
>>> As far as CUA goes, my guts want to comply in every way, but there are
>>> certain things that people have become used to over the years that they
>>> expect and it is very difficult to throw something in front of them that
>>> doesn't meet those expectations. Regarding DTL - and this may sound
>>> contradictory - but I like it because it is easier to create IBM-like
>>> (and
>>> thus, CUA compliant) panels. It warns you if you stray and you also
>>> have
>>> the option to pre-process the panels for performance sake. I look at
>>> the
>>> panel language generated by DTL/GML and wonder alot how long it would
>>> have
>>> taken me to code that myself. To each his own.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Scott T. Harder
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Dave Salt" <ds...@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>> To: <ISP...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Dashboard?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the panel is already going to have an action bar, then that's
>>> obviously
>>> the right place to put the DASH command. But personally I'm not a big
>>> fan
>>> of
>>> ISPF action bars, or even CUA come to that. I like the *concept* of CUA,
>>> but
>>> not the way it was implemented. For example, I can't stand having the
>>> command line at the bottom or PF12=CANCEL.
>>>
>>> On my own panels I quite often have point-and-shoot fields similar to
>>> the
>>> DASH command, which is why I suggested it. However, I don't write my
>>> panels
>>> in DTL (which I like even less than CUA). Before anyone suggests it, no
>>> I'm
>>> not stuck in the 80's or resistant to change. I love pop-up panels and
>>> messages, I love dynamic areas and shadow variables, and in general I
>>> like
>>> almost all of the enhancements that have been made to ISPF. This even
>>> includes keylists, which I know many people don't like. But in my
>>> opinion
>>> CUA leaves much to be desired, and DTL is the exact opposite of an
>>> enhancement.
>>>
>>> Having said that, I do endorse the idea behind CUA. I've also had the
>>> horror of seeing multi-color reverse-video blinking-blinding panels that
>>> some designer thought looked really cool and which to me looked like a
>>> multi-color yawn (for those who know what that is).
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Dave Salt
>>>
>>> SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it!
>>>
>>> http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:54:14 -0800
>>>> From: pe...@US.IBM.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Dashboard?
>>>> To: ISP...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>>>>
>>>> While I like the idea of a point-and-shoot field and also the command
>>>> line
>>>> capability, when I consider Scott's earlier thread about being CUA
>>>> compliant, I have to more strongly recommend the use of an action bar.
>>>>
>>>> The action bar is basically the same thing as the proposed point and
>>>> shoot
>>>> field. And I think you can define it to set ZCMD to a value like
>>>> 'DASH',
>>>> so the other programming would be the same as you already propose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Vera
>>>> IMS Tools
>>>>
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