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nitz...@gmx.net
May 17, 2013, 3:31:26 AM5/17/13
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I have been unable to fix a problem that is driving me rather crazy (and I am not even sure it can be fixed either via JES2 parms or SDSF parms):
Whenever I use SDSF ST or DA panel, every JOB/STC/TSU shows exactly one line of output, both for active jobs and for terminated jobs. Specifying ? in the first column neatly gives me all DD statements allocated to that job.
On the H and O panels, however, an STC has several lines (all for the same output class). JESMSGLG, JESJCL, JESYSMSG and SYSTSPRT show up as one line and can be viewed using ? as several lines. The rest of the DD statements belonging to that STC were programmatically dynamically allocated. (As far as I can see, that is the common denominator among them.) I would like to have *all* DD statements belonging to one job as one line on the H and O panels, too, I just don't know how to accomplish this. Any pointers?
Thanks and best regards, Barbara
ps: I am running with the SDSF default parms that IBM distributes in samplib.
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Whenever I use SDSF ST or DA panel, every JOB/STC/TSU shows exactly one line of output, both for active jobs and for terminated jobs. Specifying ? in the first column neatly gives me all DD statements allocated to that job.
On the H and O panels, however, an STC has several lines (all for the same output class). JESMSGLG, JESJCL, JESYSMSG and SYSTSPRT show up as one line and can be viewed using ? as several lines. The rest of the DD statements belonging to that STC were programmatically dynamically allocated. (As far as I can see, that is the common denominator among them.) I would like to have *all* DD statements belonging to one job as one line on the H and O panels, too, I just don't know how to accomplish this. Any pointers?
Thanks and best regards, Barbara
ps: I am running with the SDSF default parms that IBM distributes in samplib.
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Miklos Szigetvari
May 17, 2013, 4:21:09 AM5/17/13
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For me, if the output DD 's has different attributes (for example some
with OUTDESC some without ) I also got at H several lines, but if they
all the sames I got only one.
Seems to me the OUTPUT Group Number is changing in this case
Maybe for the dynalloc , they also have different attributes, different
O-Grp-N ?
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For me, if the output DD 's has different attributes (for example some
with OUTDESC some without ) I also got at H several lines, but if they
all the sames I got only one.
Seems to me the OUTPUT Group Number is changing in this case
Maybe for the dynalloc , they also have different attributes, different
O-Grp-N ?
Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Miklos Szigetvari
Research& Development
ISIS Papyrus Europe AG
Alter Wienerweg 12, A-2344 Maria Enzersdorf, Austria
T: +43(2236) 27551 333, F: +43(2236)21081
E-mail: miklos.s...@isis-papyrus.com
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nitz...@gmx.net
May 17, 2013, 5:26:31 AM5/17/13
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> For me, if the output DD 's has different attributes (for example some
> with OUTDESC some without ) I also got at H several lines, but if they
> all the sames I got only one.
> Seems to me the OUTPUT Group Number is changing in this case
> Maybe for the dynalloc , they also have different attributes, different
> O-Grp-N ?
That's it- they all have different O-Grp-N. Who/what sets that? How can it be influenced?
> with OUTDESC some without ) I also got at H several lines, but if they
> all the sames I got only one.
> Seems to me the OUTPUT Group Number is changing in this case
> Maybe for the dynalloc , they also have different attributes, different
> O-Grp-N ?
Thanks, Barbara
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.
May 17, 2013, 3:17:35 PM5/17/13
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In <20130517093121.3a5a...@gmx.net>, on 05/17/2013
displaying output separate by characteristics.
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at 09:31 AM, "nitz...@gmx.net" <nitz...@GMX.NET> said:
>I would like to have *all* DD statements belonging to one job as
>one line on the H and O panels,
If you want a single line than ST is the appropriate command. O is for
>I would like to have *all* DD statements belonging to one job as
>one line on the H and O panels,
displaying output separate by characteristics.
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Elardus Engelbrecht
May 18, 2013, 4:39:11 AM5/18/13
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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>>I would like to have *all* DD statements belonging to one job as one line on the H and O panels,
>If you want a single line than ST is the appropriate command. O is for displaying output separate by characteristics.
I agree to agree. ;-)
>>I would like to have *all* DD statements belonging to one job as one line on the H and O panels,
>If you want a single line than ST is the appropriate command. O is for displaying output separate by characteristics.
I like to use ST screen so I can see all elements of a job/stc/tso. One line per address space. You want to see more lines per Address Space, use ? against it.
ST is also handy where I absolutely want to see ALL elements of a job even when something has been purged on H/O screen.
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin
May 18, 2013, 8:44:46 AM5/18/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 03:39:05 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>
>
>I like to use ST screen so I can see all elements of a job/stc/tso. One line per address space. You want to see more lines per Address Space, use ? against it.
>
>ST is also handy where I absolutely want to see ALL elements of a job even when something has been purged on H/O screen.
>
Alas, I believe ST does not show SYSOUT from UNIX processes. (I understand
>
>
>I like to use ST screen so I can see all elements of a job/stc/tso. One line per address space. You want to see more lines per Address Space, use ? against it.
>
>ST is also handy where I absolutely want to see ALL elements of a job even when something has been purged on H/O screen.
>
the (E)JES analogue overcomes this defect.)
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Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.
May 20, 2013, 11:24:29 AM5/20/13
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In <7224169216442958.WA...@listserv.ua.edu>, on
05/18/2013
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05/18/2013
at 07:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin <PaulGB...@AIM.COM> said:
>Alas, I believe ST does not show SYSOUT from UNIX processes.
Well. processes in a separate address space.
>Alas, I believe ST does not show SYSOUT from UNIX processes.
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