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Ware,Steven F

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May 17, 2013, 9:22:06 AM5/17/13
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(Posted with an ok from Darren.)

The University of Florida in Gainesville, FL, has posted an "IT Expert" z/OS Systems Programmer position with details available at:

https://jobs.ufl.edu/postings/41401

Take care,
Steve.

Steve Ware
Systems Coordinator
University of Florida Information Technology (UFIT)
2046 NE Waldo Road, Suite 2100 / PO Box 112050
Gainesville, FL 32611-2050
Voice: (352) 273-1327
Computing & Networking Services - Mainframe Systems

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Ed Jaffe

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May 17, 2013, 10:42:09 AM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 6:11 AM, Ware,Steven F wrote:
> The University of Florida in Gainesville, FL, has posted an "IT Expert" z/OS Systems Programmer position with details available at:
>
> https://jobs.ufl.edu/postings/41401

Talk about "big shoes" to fill...

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Edward E Jaffe
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John Gilmore

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May 17, 2013, 2:53:02 PM5/17/13
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The salary offered, US$75K-US$85K, is interesting too.

With adjustment for the differences in the cost of living between
CA|NY and FL it is at least $30K below the market. The whole writeup
has a quixotic---21-year-old Ph.D. with twenty-one years
experience---flavor.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Bob Shannon

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May 17, 2013, 2:57:39 PM5/17/13
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> is at least $30K below the market

The number of out-of-work systems programmers attests to there being a big difference between the salary people expect and the salary companies will pay. To those who are out of work, this may be an attractive offer. I do agree that it would be hard to live on that salary in the more expensive areas of the country.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

Ed Jaffe

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May 17, 2013, 3:05:46 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 11:57 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
> I do agree that it would be hard to live on that salary in the more
> expensive areas of the country.

The State of Florida has no state income tax! Also, Gainsville ranks 94
in overall cost of living compared to 100 average for the U.S. And, I
suspect the benefits package offered by a major public national
University looks better than what many of us are getting in the private
sector. Given those factors, this might not be such a bad offer.

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Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Ed Finnell

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May 17, 2013, 3:16:51 PM5/17/13
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Yeah if I were younger this would be a spot worth looking at. Health
benefits,
no state taxes, 403(b) plan. Other factors UFL has been a long time
supporter of SHARE and as large .edu have an assortment of platforms and
resources at their disposal.

Further in researching treatments, they have one of eight proton
accelerators in the country.


In a message dated 5/17/2013 2:05:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
edj...@PHOENIXSOFTWARE.COM writes:

in overall cost of living compared to 100 average for the U.S. And, I
suspect the benefits package offered by a major public national
University looks better than what many of us are getting in the private
sector. Given those factors, this might not be such a bad offer

Gibney, Dave

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May 17, 2013, 3:34:08 PM5/17/13
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It would be a 15K raise for me. Someday soon I may need to revise my reluctance to relocate.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University

Mark Jacobs

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May 17, 2013, 3:39:19 PM5/17/13
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Gainsville is a nice college town. Ocala isn't too far away and Tampa is
within easy driving distance.

Mark Jacobs
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Ed Jaffe

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May 17, 2013, 3:49:14 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/2013 12:39 PM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
> Gainsville is a nice college town. Ocala isn't too far away and Tampa
> is within easy driving distance.

And Schudel lives fairly close by. If you get "stuck," I'm sure he would
be happy to help. :-)

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Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Shane Ginnane

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May 18, 2013, 2:06:35 AM5/18/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 19:33:59 +0000, Gibney, Dave wrote:

>Someday soon I may need to revise my reluctance to relocate.

I think you may be too laid-back for Florida Dave ....;-)
Never been there, so all that TV baloney we get to see might just be TV baloney of course ...

Shane ...

Gibney, Dave

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May 18, 2013, 4:14:44 AM5/18/13
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Could be true :) (on the laid back) I seem to have lost my taste for adrenalin :)

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Elardus Engelbrecht

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May 18, 2013, 4:33:43 AM5/18/13
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Gibney, Dave wrote:

>Someday soon I may need to revise my reluctance to relocate.

Similar trends are also happening in South Africa. If you want to be filthy stinking rich, go live and work in Johannesburg, Sandton area to be precisely. Most rich IT companies are there - but they have a somewhat high staff turnover.

Turnover is the result of greedy employees, but crime, bad traffic, crime, high cost of living, crime and expensive housings (and once more: crime!!!) are amongst the main reasons.

Pretoria, Centurion and Cape Town also have a lot of IT companies - there things are more laidback.

Where I'm living in Centurion, the area is not too bad, but is becoming growing from a big town to a big city in itself, but there are no buildings higher than 10 stories here around. Generally, I like this area - lots of houses, shopping centres, parks, lots of trees, etc. I drive, for example, past a milk farm [1] to my work everyday. About 20 kilometers from my home there is a game reserve park (one of several) [2] with rhinoceroes and lots of birds and a dam where you can angle at leisure.

There are at least 6 big dams where you can angle all within 100-150 kilometers from where I live.

So, I'm also like Dave, absolutely too reluctant to move at all. ;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - http://www.irenefarm.co.za/
[2] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rietvlei_Nature_Reserve

ibmmain

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May 18, 2013, 4:43:52 AM5/18/13
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Elardus,

> There are at least 6 big dams where you can angle all within 100-150 kilometers from where I live.

Do you mean go fishing? (No, not the card game!) :-)

Barbara

Elardus Engelbrecht

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May 18, 2013, 5:12:26 AM5/18/13
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Barbara nitz wrote:

>> There are at least 6 big dams where you can angle all within 100-150 kilometers from where I live.

>Do you mean go fishing? (No, not the card game!) :-)

Of course. Many of those dams [1] also have nature reserves around, so if you don't want to go angling/fishing on the boats or at the banks, you can drive around watching some wild animals and birds.

One of these days, I should catch an incompetent z/OS user and use his/her body as bait to catch that great fish...

;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

http://stywelynetightlines.co.za/index.html has amongst lots of info, also has a list of dams where you can go angling.

DASDBILL2

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May 18, 2013, 12:57:09 PM5/18/13
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I suggest you at least rethink your reluctance before their offer is no longer available.


Bill Fairchild
Franklin, TN


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It would be a 15K raise for me. Someday soon I may need to revise my reluctance to relocate.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


Scott Ford

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May 18, 2013, 1:44:55 PM5/18/13
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I had a chance to consult for Homeland security in the DC area, the money seemed good around $90k ....but the cost of living index there was high and I had a family....so I had to say no, unfortunately

Scott ford
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Ed Gould

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May 18, 2013, 1:48:23 PM5/18/13
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Shane:

Ar you suggesting that the Golden Girls isn't real?:)

Ed

Scott Ford

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May 18, 2013, 2:37:38 PM5/18/13
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I can tells you it's hot and humid, inlaws, aka outlaws lived in Orlando ....

Scott ford
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Scott Ford

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May 18, 2013, 2:42:41 PM5/18/13
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Elardus,

Sounds really nice where you are. I and 1/2 way between NYC and Philadelphia about 45 mins inland from the ocean. Very rural, country, farms, horses...

Scott ford
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Scott Ford

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May 18, 2013, 2:46:03 PM5/18/13
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Barbara,

Europe is nice too, lived there for awhile, really enjoyed it

Scott ford
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Timothy Sipples

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May 19, 2013, 11:42:55 PM5/19/13
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Watch out for the speed traps in the area, e.g. Waldo and Lawtey, Florida.

One of the benefits is likely to be the ability to take courses at the
University at no charge. Bus rides are free on Gainesville's RTS with a
staff ID, which means you may be able to convert from a two car household
to a one car household (for example). There's affordable preschool ("Baby
Gator"). Staff can use all the UFL facilities (e.g. library, tennis courts,
etc.) generally free of charge. UFL pays for a certain number of children
of employees to attend free of charge.

Property taxes tend to be low in Florida, although that might mean a
challenge finding good schools. (I'm not sure about the area around UFL.)
Florida has a homestead exemption which is quite interesting and which
still offers some protection in bankruptcy (O.J. Simpson is familiar).
Florida was hit very hard in the mortgage/financial crisis and hasn't
really recovered, so some parts of the state offer very affordable real
estate. Employment at UFL is likely to be fairly stable, and working hours
are likely to be reasonable. As mentioned there's no state income tax, and
the sales tax rate in and around Gainesville is 6%. The local job market is
not terribly strong, so you'll probably want to be prepared to move again
if you leave UFL for other employment.

Gainesville has an airport (GNV) which American, Delta, United, and U.S.
Airways serve to/from their hub cities in the region. The city's elevation
is high by Florida standards (151 feet), and it's inland so not too badly
affected by hurricanes. Local flooding could still be a problem. Tornados
are possible, but that's true in much of the U.S. A weather radio and a
storm shelter are recommended. Ice storms sometimes occur in the winter,
and its gets hot and humid in the summer.

If you're looking for a position I'd seriously investigate that one. It
looks fairly compelling.

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GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore)
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Mark Pace

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May 21, 2013, 12:20:02 PM5/21/13
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I agree with everything you've said, except the Ice storms. They may form
some ice in winter, but not ice storms, that would be a once in a life time
event. Snow occurs every 20 years for so. You may be thinking of
Gainesville, GA.
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Schmutzok, Michael A.

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May 21, 2013, 1:27:20 PM5/21/13
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Perhaps taxes are lower in other counties within the state, but Alachua county (which is where Gainesville is located) has some of the highest property taxes. Only 50% of the property in Alachua county is taxable as of 2011 so it has to made up elsewhere. I haven't located the 2013 numbers yet....


Articles:

Report finds Alachua County property tax rate highest in state (Oct 2011)
http://www.alligator.org/news/local/article_342e1042-ee48-11e0-ae36-001cc4c002e0.html

Alachua County had highest average countywide property taxes in the state (Oct, 2011)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20111002/ARTICLES/111009930


Mike Schmutzok
Sr z/OS Systems Programmer
UF & Shands HealthCare


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