This morning's Wall Street Journal is reporting that IBM is in talks to buy Sun Microsystems for as much as $6.5 billion. A deal could take place as early as this week.
"The deal furthers a recent pattern of consolidation in the tech industry around the services, hardware and software used to run data centers, the big computing rooms that store and process information.
In recent years, the market for servers has shifted from the huge, custom-built 'mainframes' that IBM dominates to vast numbers of standardized computers. By pushing standardized servers, H-P has made inroads on IBM. In the meantime, Sun has suffered, as its strategy of using its own operating system on standardized software has failed to propel new growth."
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to buy Sun Microsystems for as much as $6.5 billion. A deal could take place as early as this week.
I don't see the synergy at all. Maybe in the roll out we'll see more. From an end user perspective it's like merging matter and anti-matter. Which is which is open for debate.
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> I don't see the synergy at all. Maybe in the roll out we'll see more. From > an end user perspective it's like merging matter and anti-matter. Which is > which is open for debate.
I do see the synergy. When I read (and wrote) of the Sun Grid offering some years ago, the big question was - are we going back to centralized computing?
-- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
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-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-M...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Chevalier Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:21 AM To: IBM-M...@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM in talks to acquire Sun Microsystems
This morning's Wall Street Journal is reporting that IBM is in talks to buy Sun Microsystems for as much as $6.5 billion. A deal could take place as early as this week.
"The deal furthers a recent pattern of consolidation in the tech industry around the services, hardware and software used to run data centers, the big computing rooms that store and process information.
In recent years, the market for servers has shifted from the huge, custom-built 'mainframes' that IBM dominates to vast numbers of standardized computers. By pushing standardized servers, H-P has made inroads on IBM. In the meantime, Sun has suffered, as its strategy of using its own operating system on standardized software has failed to propel new growth." <SNIP>
Custom built (as he spits coffee all over his LCD)!?!? A few coughs and gasps with the "...own operating system on standardized software..." has me thinking they don't have a good editing staff any more. Shouldn't that have been HARDWARE?
Seems to me that the mainframes are more standard than not with more standard devices to attach. Seems that journalists should get out more and KNOW more before writing this junk.
Ah, but what do I know? I'm just a balding middle-aged "white" guy who has been working on/with computers since about 1968.
Regards, Steve Thompson
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________________________________ From: Eric Chevalier <et...@TULSAGRAMMER.COM> To: IBM-M...@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:20:46 AM Subject: IBM in talks to acquire Sun Microsystems
This morning's Wall Street Journal is reporting that IBM is in talks to buy Sun Microsystems for as much as $6.5 billion. A deal could take place as early as this week.
"The deal furthers a recent pattern of consolidation in the tech industry around the services, hardware and software used to run data centers, the big computing rooms that store and process information.
In recent years, the market for servers has shifted from the huge, custom-built 'mainframes' that IBM dominates to vast numbers of standardized computers. By pushing standardized servers, H-P has made inroads on IBM. In the meantime, Sun has suffered, as its strategy of using its own operating system on standardized software has failed to propel new growth."
-- Eric Chevalier E-mail: et...@tulsagrammer.com Web: www.tulsagrammer.com Is that call really worth your child's life? HANG UP AND DRIVE!
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:36:19 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote:
>I don't see the synergy at all. Maybe in the roll out we'll see more. From >an end user perspective it's like merging matter and anti-matter. Which is >which is open for debate.
Star Trek employed that concept quite productively.
I have a biased view of the market. Don't many shops have Sun and IBM on the floor with no mutual annihilation? At least all the library and VSM customers I'm concerned with have IBM on the floor.
I wonder what that would do for Solaris on z?
Breathe a relieved sigh; I may never be able to go to SHARE in Denver.
-- gil
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et...@TULSAGRAMMER.COM (Eric Chevalier) writes: > This morning's Wall Street Journal is reporting that IBM is in talks > to buy Sun Microsystems for as much as $6.5 billion. A deal could take > place as early as this week.
> "The deal furthers a recent pattern of consolidation in the tech > industry around the services, hardware and software used to run data > centers, the big computing rooms that store and process information.
> In recent years, the market for servers has shifted from the huge, > custom-built 'mainframes' that IBM dominates to vast numbers of > standardized computers. By pushing standardized servers, H-P has made > inroads on IBM. In the meantime, Sun has suffered, as its strategy of > using its own operating system on standardized software has failed to > propel new growth."
I periodically mention an old meeting at palo alto science center about proposal to do sun machine product (by the people that would go on to form sun). there were (at least) three different internal groups that claimed that what they were doing was better ... and so IBM declined to do sun product.
note also that in past decade or so, SUN had acquired STK ... mainframe clone storage group.
-- 40+yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar70