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Cifani, Domenic
May 16, 2013, 3:42:21 PM5/16/13
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User is using SFTP to send a file to OMVS, then sends a trigger file to MVS using FTP, since SFTP is not supported on MVS datasets. User is trying to eliminate the FTP to MVS but still trigger ESP scheduler to run a job against the original file. ESP cannot detect the file arriving in OMVS.
Is there any software available that would make it possible to do SFTP to MVS side on z/OS system that would be practical to install, or is this simply the way it is?
I have seen a couple of vendors that provide solutions, such as Dovetail and Tectia but I'm not sure how to answer this question which is how to trigger the
Job in ESP when the file arrives in OMVS? Right now it is not possible.
Does anyone know of a solution.
Regards,
Domenic Cifani
Technology Consultant III
Network Software Canada
HP Enterprise Services
Telephone (905) 383-7864
HP Cell (905) 869-3279
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Is there any software available that would make it possible to do SFTP to MVS side on z/OS system that would be practical to install, or is this simply the way it is?
I have seen a couple of vendors that provide solutions, such as Dovetail and Tectia but I'm not sure how to answer this question which is how to trigger the
Job in ESP when the file arrives in OMVS? Right now it is not possible.
Does anyone know of a solution.
Regards,
Domenic Cifani
Technology Consultant III
Network Software Canada
HP Enterprise Services
Telephone (905) 383-7864
HP Cell (905) 869-3279
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Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
May 16, 2013, 3:45:24 PM5/16/13
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We are using Co:Z from Dovetail to do sftp directly to MVS data sets.
Brad Wissink
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
515-294-3088
"If it ain't broke, you ain't trying" - Red Green
Brad Wissink
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
515-294-3088
"If it ain't broke, you ain't trying" - Red Green
John McKown
May 16, 2013, 3:48:17 PM5/16/13
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ref:
http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html
free to download and use! Support contract available if desired. Get
the entire Co:Z package. It's fantastic.
--
This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an
actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you?
Maranatha! <><
John McKown
http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html
free to download and use! Support contract available if desired. Get
the entire Co:Z package. It's fantastic.
This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an
actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you?
Maranatha! <><
John McKown
Kirk Wolf
May 16, 2013, 3:53:14 PM5/16/13
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Hi Domenic,
Co:Z SFTP supports direct access to z/OS data sets. So, most scheduling
packages will support triggering.
If not, we also support FTP-compatible exits and SMF records, so it is
possible to use an exit to trigger a job.
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
Co:Z SFTP is available free to use under our Community License, or with
world-class support under our Enterprise License.
For more information, see: http://dovetail.com/support.html
Please feel free to ask questions on our free community forum.
Co:Z SFTP supports direct access to z/OS data sets. So, most scheduling
packages will support triggering.
If not, we also support FTP-compatible exits and SMF records, so it is
possible to use an exit to trigger a job.
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
Co:Z SFTP is available free to use under our Community License, or with
world-class support under our Enterprise License.
For more information, see: http://dovetail.com/support.html
Please feel free to ask questions on our free community forum.
Lizette Koehler
May 16, 2013, 8:30:59 PM5/16/13
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So, are you talking about a scheduled job from a Server to the Mainframe
using CA-ESP (Workload Manager)?
Lizette
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using CA-ESP (Workload Manager)?
Lizette
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Rob Schramm
May 17, 2013, 9:53:49 AM5/17/13
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CA-ESP has no ongoing support for it. They are supposed to have a
replacement product, but it is not yet available.
As to Co:Z support of MVS data sets.. it works great. The problem will be
with the client. Most of the clients will support up to #02 of the
standard.... which does not really support the use of all the individual
parameters and flags about whether they should be used. Instead, a lot of
clients will attempt to parse the long directory name and fail miserably in
the process.
To name a few that have a problem ...
- DataPower
- putty (not that it really matters.. only mentioned because Filezilla
uses putty's sftp code)
- Filezilla
Personally, the non-support of newer "sort of standard" sftp / ssh drove me
a bit crazy.
Also, there is a lister that had coded up the SMF exits to post a message
to syslog.
Rob Schramm
Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group
replacement product, but it is not yet available.
As to Co:Z support of MVS data sets.. it works great. The problem will be
with the client. Most of the clients will support up to #02 of the
standard.... which does not really support the use of all the individual
parameters and flags about whether they should be used. Instead, a lot of
clients will attempt to parse the long directory name and fail miserably in
the process.
To name a few that have a problem ...
- DataPower
- putty (not that it really matters.. only mentioned because Filezilla
uses putty's sftp code)
- Filezilla
Personally, the non-support of newer "sort of standard" sftp / ssh drove me
a bit crazy.
Also, there is a lister that had coded up the SMF exits to post a message
to syslog.
Rob Schramm
Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group
Steve Goetze
May 17, 2013, 10:22:41 AM5/17/13
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Rob's right that some GUI clients incorrectly insist on parsing the unix
style long listing for their operation. Most command line clients follow
the standard correctly and PuTTY by itself works fine. As he mentions
however, some clients that are built on the PuTTY codebase fail to follow
the standard.
This section of our user's guide discusses the common issues that can occur
and suggests possible solutions:
http://www.dovetail.com/docs/sftp/client-compat.html
In particular, in release 2.3.0 we added the "unixls" option to help
mitigate the worst offenders.
--Steve Goetze
Dovetailed Technologies
www.dovetail.com
style long listing for their operation. Most command line clients follow
the standard correctly and PuTTY by itself works fine. As he mentions
however, some clients that are built on the PuTTY codebase fail to follow
the standard.
This section of our user's guide discusses the common issues that can occur
and suggests possible solutions:
http://www.dovetail.com/docs/sftp/client-compat.html
In particular, in release 2.3.0 we added the "unixls" option to help
mitigate the worst offenders.
--Steve Goetze
Dovetailed Technologies
www.dovetail.com
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