The Observer (10/8) gia toys Olympiakous, Nebiolo kai Aggelopoulou
V. Farmaki
Am egw na deis pou den pistevw pws dexomaste mia analhtheia kai epainoume
ton dhmosiografo pou sthn synexeia tou arthrou tou epainei (?) thn Ellada.
Ki otan mia oloklhrh mera analwthhke o kratikos mhxanismos, o Dhmarxos, o
armodios yfypourgos, oi diorganwtes, na dinoun e3hghseis kai na apantoun se
eirwnika sxolia, thn stigmh pou h psevdhs kai dysaresth eidhsh eixe hdh
kanei ton gyro tou kosmou, ta thewroume kai anef shmasias??
E3 allou egw periegrapsa akrivws pws eixe to thema, kai giati hmouna
parousa, kai giati eimai sigourh pws polloi sthn lista eite den to h3eran
katholou san gegonos, eite tha to eixan akousei akrivws opws to egrapse o
dhmosiografos tou observer pou den ekane katholou ton kopo na to
diorthwsei, kai tha emenan me thn arnhtikh entypwsh mias kakhs, kakisths
plhroforias. Ki anti na to epainesete, enoxlhthhkate pou ethi3a thn 3enh
efhmerida!!
Anef shmasias loipon h kakh enhmerwsh eis varos mas, kai meta shmasias h
yperaspish mias 3enhs fylladas!
Kalo ki afto.
Veatrikh
P.S. Twra an tavala me ton Observer den einai ekei to thema, kai mhn
kollate ekei gia na antiparelthoume to kathafto shmeio trivhs.
At 11:07 =F0=EC 14/8/1997 +0100, Kostas Yannakopoulos wrote:
>Den to pisteyw !! O logos poy esteila to ar9ro toy Observer htan akribws
>gia na dei3w oti kapoioi an9rwpoi grafoun kai swsta pragmata gia thn
>Ellada. Mou kanei entypwsh pou h Veatrikh anti na dei to egkwmio pou plekei
>o ar9rografos sthn Ellada kai to ftysimo pou rixnei sto Nebiolo steketai
>sth mikrhs shmasias anafora sto gegonos ths ypodoxhs sto Stadio pou allwste
>apotelese kai to enaysma gia na pei o ar9rografos oti sthn Ellada h
>pleiopshfia 9elei tous Olympiakous.
>Katalabainw thn anastatwsh pou exei ferei o Nebiolo tis teleutaies meres
>alla ayto de dikaiologei tetoies antidraseis. Exoume katanthsei
>synomwsiologoi !!
>Veatrikh, se pisteyw, anoixan oi portes opws les, alla ayto einai aney
>shmasias, hremhse kai diabase olo to ar9ro. =20
>As parei kai kapoios allos 9esh giati tis proalles kai o Nikos Ikonomou apo
>th "Nenterlantia" bghke apo ta rouxa toy logw enos ar9rou pou gia mena
>toulaxisto den eixe kammia eirwnia ws pros tous Ellhnes kai to Mara9wna.
>
>At 16:03 13/08/97 +0300, V. Farmaki wrote:
>>Kosta,=20
>>Exw ahdiasei pia na diavazw psemmata, psemmata, psemmata!! (kalo kai to
>>observer!!, sovarh fyllada)
>>
>>Afto pou lene gia to Panathhnaiko stadio einai pera gia pera anakrives.
>>Dioti hmoyna ekei!!!! kai egine to e3hs:
>>Eixe anakoinwthei pws oi portes tha anoigoun gia thn ypodoxh twn
>>marathonodromwn kai stis dyp periptwseis (andres - gynaikes) mia wra prin
>>thn provlepomenh afi3h.
>>Ekei loipon htan o Dhmarxos, dhmotikoi symvouloi, arketoi kalesmenoi 3enoi
>>epishmoi, ligos kosmos (thn eixan kanei gia thn thalassa oi perissoteroi),
>>kai ena group apo Iapwnes pou mh gnwrizontas profanws ta diafora
>>leitourgika, eixan ftasei nwritera apo afthn thn mia wra, kai vevaia den
>>tous epetrepan na mpoun. Otan eftase h provlepomenh wra mphkame oloi mesa
>>xwris kanena provlhma.
>>To phre omws to Royter kai to evgale voukino oti nte kai kala oi portes
>>htan kleistes kai den epetrepan thn eisodo.!!!!=20
>>Den ntrepontai ligo ta kathikia..... =20
>>
>>To idio apogevma o Dhmarxos vghke sta radiofwna, kai to vrady sthn TV kai
>>e3hghse ekplhkta diamartyromenos to ti eixe symvei....kai e3hghse oti kai
>>thn epomenh mera ston termatismo twn andrwn tha isxye to idio!!
>>
>>Alla vlepeis mas thn eixan sthmenh aftoi oi diaforoi kafroi pou psaxnan
>>meta manias =20
>>na vroun psegadi. Kai afto epishs deixnei kai poso ane3elegkta diwxnoun=
tis
>>plhrofories!!
>>
>>Veatrikh
>>=20
>>At 10:55 =F0=EC 13/8/1997 +0100, you wrote:
>>>To parakatw keimeno to diabasa ston Observer kai parolo pou den epi9ymw
>>>toys Olympiakous sthn Ellada me ekane na noiwsw kapws.
>>>(La9h sto keimeno ofeilontai to pi9anotero sto recognition software pou=
mou
>>>espase t' rx/ gia na doulepsei.)
>>>
>>>First lady gets a grip on the Games
>>>(No holds barred in Greco-Roman war)
>>>by Alan
>>>Hubbard
>>>
>>>On the direct order of the mayor of Athens they closed the world's oldest
>>>Olympic Stadium to spectators yesterday for the flnish of the world
>>>athletics championships women's marathon. It was a curiously knee-jerk
>>>reaction to the bomb blast which, less than 24 hours eariler, had=
destroyed
>>>part of Stockholm's Olympic stadium and at the same time virtually
>>>sabotaged the Swedish bid to host the 2004 Games.
>>>The Stockholm bombing was the latest in a series of incidents apparently
>>>perpetrated by local activists bitterly opposed to the Olympics being=
held
>>>in the Swedish capital. There is no such hostility in Athens, where 96=
per
>>>cent of the population are pubildy committed to the idea of the Games
>>>coming home to the very cradle of Olympism.
>>>But the decision to temporarily shut down the marbled arena, where in=
1896
>>>a fruit seller named Spiros Louys became Greece's greatest athletic hero
>>>since the soldier Pheidippedes gasped his last after runnmg to Athens=
with
>>>news of victory
>>>in the battle of Marathon in 490 BC, is an indication of the edginess of
>>>the Athe-
>>>nians. All week the local atmosphere has heen almost as explosive as
that in
>>>Stockholm.
>>>Later the jumpy mayor denied it was a security move, but maybe he feared
>>sabo-
>>>tage from another source. For, since the world championships began a week
>>ago,
>>>the dictatorial Italian president of the International Amateur Athletic
>>>Federation, Dr Prmo~Nebiolo, has been doing his best to put a personal=
bomb
>>>under Athens's Olympic aspirations.
>>>The Nero-esque Neblolo has been employing tactics more in keeping with
>>>Machiavelli in undermining the efforts of the Greeks to correct the
>>>injustice of
>>>seven years ago when their plea to host the Centenary Olympics was
>>>cynically snubbed in favour of Atlanta. Now Athens is again in contention
>>>for the 2004 Games, alongside Rome, Cape Town, Buenos Aires and=
Stockholm.
>>>The International Olympic Committee vote on 5 September in Lausaune and
>>>the probability is that it will be a two~horse race.
>>>Stockholm surely has blown itself out of the water, Cape Town seems too
>big a
>>>poiltical gamble, with Mandela unlikely to be around in 2004, and Buenos
>>>Aires seems a financial liabIlity. So it comes down to a Grec~Roman
>>>wrestling match, and the stakes are enormous.
>>>Nebiolo claimed the first fall by insisting that Athens hold the world
>>>championships in early August when he knew the city would be on summer
>>>hoildays. So visiting IOC delegates saw vast acreages of empty seats and
>>>heard Nebiolo almost gleefully castigate Athenian apathy. He suggested=
they
>>>should draft in battalions of millitia, to which Vangelis Savranis, the
>>>chairman of the organising committee, sharply responded. 'Greek soldiers
>>>are not there to fill stadiums but to assure the defence of the country.'
>>>Nebiolo then further embarrassed the Greeks by urging them to employ
>>>loudspeaker vans to exhort people to flock to the stadium. 'That's how we
>>>sell water melons here,' I
>>>retorted Savranis, adding darkly: 'There's something hidden behind this
>>>for him to say all these things.'
>>>Too right, Vangelis. There's no one sharper at hiding an agenda than
>Nebiolo.
>>>But the good news is that he might just have met his match.
>>>There is a certain irony in the fact that the Ancient Greeks barred women
>>from
>>>competing in or even watching the Olympics, upon pain of death. Now they
>>>depend on femine wiles to combat those of Nebiolo and win them the IOC
>>verdict
>>>Gianna Angelopoulos Daskalaki is the personal appointee of the Greek
>>socialist
>>>prime minister to head up the Athens bid She is a 41 year old raven=
haired
>>>wing
>>>politician and lawyer a mother of three who speaks five languages=
lectures
>>>at Harvard is married to a Greek multimillionaire industrialist 'with
>homes m
>>>Athens Switzerland the USA and London
>>>As we talked in her office close to the old Olympic Stadium, a Clinton=
aide
>>>waited in an adjoining rcom and IOC president Samaranch was on his way to
>>>pay a courtesy call. Clearly the lady has friends in high places, and=
knows
>>>how to
>>>charm them.
>>>Not once did she mention the name of Nebiolo, but she was clearly
angered by
>>>the attempts to sour the world against Athens. She pointed out that,
>>>unlike the
>>>athletics championships, the Olympics would be held later in August when
the
>>>breezes are cooler and Athenians are back from the islands. 'The stadium
>>>will be full as a matter of pride. As Greeks we are loyal to the Games,
>>>loyal to the ideals of the Olympics, and innrained with their spirit. We
>>>have learned from the mistakes Athens is now ready, but we are not=
seeking
>>>a sympathy vote. We have the organisational sklll, the facilities and the
>>>desire. We want to win on
>>>merit and I believe we shall.'
>>>Whatever Nebiolo would like us to think, the truth is that the world
champi-
>>>onships, which end today, have been masterfully staged, hassl~free and=
with
>>>none of the foul-ups which made everyone outside Atlanta rue the day the
>>>ICC put cash before conccience and deilvered what might have been a=
mortal
>>>snub to the
>>>nation which gave birth to the ideal the IOC has subsequently desecrated.
>>>'What do you expect from peasants,' Nebiolo was alleged to have remarked
>to a
>>>group of cronies when privately criticising the perceived lack of
>>>enthusiasm in
>>>Athens. Yet the event he presented to Athens was flawed from the outset=
be
>>>cause the world championships have be come too frequent, too long - the=
pro
>>>gramme could comfortably be completed in half the allotted 10 days - and
>>>competitors were tired and injury-prone just a year after the Olympics.
>>>Yet Nebiolo, who is also an influential member of the IOC, wants them to
>pick
>>>Rome because, he says, the city is more 'sophisticated' than Athens.
What he
>>>should realise is that the Greeks invented sophistication. In Athens you
>>>can breathe it in large lungfuls, as you can Olympism itself.
>>>Logically, traditionally and morally, the 2004 Games belong to Athens.=
Mrs
>>>Angelopoulos has 26 days to get Nebiolo in a stranglehold. I'll put a
modest
>>>drachma or
>>>two on this formidable diva to do it.
>>>
>
>
>Kostas
>Glasgow, UK
>mailto:kost...@huntly.clara.net
>ICQ : 181940
>
V. Farmaki
Kwsta geia,=20
Ti den pisteveis Kwsta mou, oti ap thn stigmh pou estw kai se ena shmeio
einai analhtheis oi plhrofories, aftoi tis diadidoun etsi esfalmena, kai oi
entypwseis menoun ??!!. Kai poios o logos na diadidoun psevdeis=
katastaseis??=20
'H mhpws meta epanerxontai na epanorthwsoun? Kai den htan katholou anef
shmasias, giati to gegonos afto egine h aformh na apokalyptontai osoi htan
tagmenoi na diavalloun olh thn ypothesh. =20
Kai nai men o sygkekrimenos htan kata tou Nebiolo, kai yper opws les ths
Ellados alla mesa apo perirges taktikes. Afhnoume tis spontes mas kai meta
epainoume.
Wraia h Ellada , alla........!!
O Theos na valei to xeri tou na MHN paroume tous Olympiakous.
Giati tote na deis ti tha ginei.
Veatrikh
V. Farmaki
kat arxhn neare kyrie Vasilakh ligh evgeneia perissotero den tha se
evlapte. Den apefthynthhka se sena proswpika me ekfraseis tou typou "alla
diavazeis kai alla katalavaineis".
An h hlikia sou kai h agwgh sou den sou epitrepei aftosygkrathsh otan
apeftynesai se kapoion exontas antitheth gnwmh, tote apla mporeis na
parakoloutheis ta grafomena kai na mhn apantas. Gia na mhn ektithesai.
Esy me poio tropo kai poio dikaiwma mporeis na krineis thn dikh mou
empeiria dioti edw den prokeitai peri antitheths apopshs, alla peri
katarripshs ths dikhs mou. Sxedon apofasises oti parakolouthw to SKY. Evge
nee mou. Eisai kataplhktikos.
To ti symvainei sth dysh kai ti tous kakofainetai 'h oxi, ligo endiaferei
emas pou zoume sthn "mh dysh", kai mporoume na exoume ki emeis - me thn
adeia sas fysika - tis sovares 'h oxi aities pou mporoun na mas kanoun na
stenoxwriomaste 'h oxi.
An kata thn gnwmh sas h ypothesh einai "thetikh" fylaxte thn kai apolafste
thn, den prokeitai emeis apo thn "arnhtikh" skopia mas na sas enoxlhsoume.
Me ligo perissoterh psyxraimia loipon den tha xreiazotan na kanoume
parallhlismo sta grafomena tou e3 ollandias filou me thn dikh mou thesh se
mia dhmosiografikh anakriveia.=20
H opoia kai paramenei anakriveia.
Exete grapsei oloi tou kosmou tis asxetes ktiseis omws kamia den afora sto
epimaxo thema.
Kataplhktiko.
Psaxnontas na vrw pou tha mporouse na "kollhsei" to perifhmo: "Na jerete
oti panta krinontai kai oi krinontes.." antilamvanomai oti profanws to
exeis mathei ap e3w, alla akoma den exeis mathei thn swsth tou xrhsh.
Elpizw h opoia apanthsh na einai kosmioterh ths parousas.
Alloiws den tha apanthsw. Kai apla tha einai mia defterh epidei3h apovolhs
apothhmenwn.
Veatrikh
=20
At 10:51 =F0=EC 15/8/1997 -0500, Vasilakis Fykos wrote:
>On 14 Aug 97 at 14:53, V. Farmaki wrote:
>
>> Ki otan mia oloklhrh mera analwthhke o kratikos mhxanismos, o Dhmarxos, o
>> armodios yfypourgos, oi diorganwtes, na dinoun e3hghseis kai na apantoun=
se
>> eirwnika sxolia, thn stigmh pou h psevdhs kai dysaresth eidhsh eixe hdh
>> kanei ton gyro tou kosmou, ta thewroume kai anef shmasias??
>>
>> E3 allou egw periegrapsa akrivws pws eixe to thema, kai giati hmouna
>> parousa, kai giati eimai sigourh pws polloi sthn lista eite den to h3eran
>> katholou san gegonos, eite tha to eixan akousei akrivws opws to egrapse o
>> dhmosiografos tou observer pou den ekane katholou ton kopo na to
>> diorthwsei, kai tha emenan me thn arnhtikh entypwsh mias kakhs, kakisths
>> plhroforias. Ki anti na to epainesete, enoxlhthhkate pou ethi3a thn 3enh
>> efhmerida!!
>>
>
>Kat' arxhn kaneis thn YPOUESH oti h plhroforia htan arnhtikh. LAUOS.
>Sthn dysh den kakofainetai kai toso na kleisoyn oi portes estv kai
>me thn amydroterh ypopsia tromokratikhs energeias. Einai uema
>asfaleias. Sthn Ellada fysika allivs ta metadidei o Skai.
>
>Deyteron o kratikos mhxanismos apantoyse kata kyrio logo sta
>"ypeyuhna Ellhnika MME" kai oxi stoys jenoys. Kai oi ligoi jenoi
>dhmosiografoi poy anakateythkan, to kanan giati blepan toys Ellhnes
>synadelfoys na kanoyn san palaboi kai skefthkan pvs isvs oi ntopioi
>na jeroyn kati parapanv. Poy na fantasoyn oti oi ntopioi htan ikanoi
>na baloyn bomba monoi toys gia na xtyphsoyn eidhsh.
>
>Den enoxlhuhkan poy ethijes thn efhmerida. Enoxlhuhkan poy alla
>diabazeis kai alla katalabaineis. Ta idia isxyoyn kai gia ton ej
>Ollandias poy ebale to paloyki ths portas ston typo gia ena aruro poy
>egv den eida san kauoloy prosblhtiko.
>Na jerete oti panta krinontai kai oi krinontes..
>
>Vasilakis, etvn 19 kai tria terata
>