Fasistika parapona
Yiannis Koutalos
Grafei o parekshghmenos fasistas (Gewrgiou, 0eodwrou, h' opws alliws ton
lene :-) ):
> Telika kopase to tropario shmera kai as kanw kati parathrhseis
> sxetika me auta pou eipw9hkan. Mesa apo to sarkasmo kai thn pa9htikothta
> sas, parathrw poso sumplegmatikoi kai problhmatikoi an9rwpoi eiste eseis
> pou sunexisate gia megalh diarkia na mas prosdidetai "katapiesmens" ormes
> kai epi9umies pou isws eseis exete.
Egw toulaxiston prospa0w apla na katalabw thn sunais0hmatikh bash tou
fasismou. Den prospa0w na prosdwsw tipota. Alla otan o fasistas den
boh0aei kai den ekshgei GIATI kai PWS egine fasistas, e, ti na kanw, 0a
xrhsimopoihsw ta adeksia ergaleia mou gia na katalabw to fainomeno. Sto
xeri tou ka0e fasista einai na bgei kai na balei ta pramata sth 0esh tous.
Alla oute gia tous koinwnikous stoxous (tous idiaiterous, tous
xarakthristikous, pou ton diaforopoioun dhladhs) tou fasismou grafthke
tipota, oute gia thn sunais0hmatikh bash tou.
> Pisw apo to prosxhma ths geleiopoihshs
> an9rwpwn san kai emena, basika ektonwnate me to pio xudaio tropo ta
> arrwsthmena apw9hmena sas
Kanenas den prospa0ei na se geloiopoihsei giabroum. Na se katalaboume
prospa0oume, alla esu den boh0as.
> ti eu9unomastai emeis twra;
Atsa kai paraponiarhs o fasistas!
> H eirwnia einai oti prospa9hsate na
> parousiasetai poso arrwsta atoma eimaste, alla h emmonh sas na to
> apokalhcete me tetoiou eidous taktikh, arxise pisteuw na problhmatizei
> orismena atoma gia thn dikh sas cuxikh katastash kai isorropia.
Ma den einai arrwstos o fasistas. Antifatikos, nai. Dustuxismenos, isws.
Makari na mporesoume na sas bgaloume apo tis ntoulapes sas na xareite ki eseis
th zwh opws oi upoloipoi.
> Euxaristw
> telos, pou mou epen9umizete sunexws pws se atoma san esas ais9hmata
> oiktou, sumponia, sumpa9ia kai katanohshs einai mia pragmatikh spatalh.
Egw pantws giabroum kai se lupamai, kai se sumponw kai se sumpa0w. Oso
gia thn katanohsh ekei prospa0w oso mporw, alla prepei na boh0hseis ki
esu.
Gouwt mehks giou thk, mah lhtl fashst?
> 9odwrhs
Mmmm, sto prohgoumeno htane 0eodwrou h tzifra... ti ginetai, 0'
apofasiseis pws se lene?? :-)
giannhs
UG: Oso gia to paradeigma ths ellhnorwma.ikhs palhs san swmatikh epafh
metaksu andrwn, to 0ema sthn fasistikh psuxologia einai bebaia h ekfrash
ths epi0umias mesa apo oneira. O fasistas oneireuetai ksifologxes se
kwlotrupides (tm Xrhstaras), oneireuetai ta idrwmena antri'kia kormia twn
palaistwn. Ti ekfrazoun auta ta oneira? E, epi0umies ekfrazoun, ti allo?
[o palaisths anti0eta oneireuetai px xrusa metallia kai fhmh]
Theodore L Georgiou
On Mon, 5 May 1997, Yiannis Koutalos wrote:
> Grafei o parekshghmenos fasistas (Gewrgiou, 0eodwrou, h' opws alliws ton
> lene :-) ):
Ta 8eodwrou, 8odwrakhs, Fon Teontoren einai onomata pou mou edwsan
oi sundromhtes. Otan apantw se mhnuma me kapoio asteio xarakthra upografw
etsi.
>
> > Telika kopase to tropario shmera kai as kanw kati parathrhseis
> > sxetika me auta pou eipw9hkan. Mesa apo to sarkasmo kai thn pa9htikothta
> > sas, parathrw poso sumplegmatikoi kai problhmatikoi an9rwpoi eiste eseis
> > pou sunexisate gia megalh diarkia na mas prosdidetai "katapiesmens" ormes
> > kai epi9umies pou isws eseis exete.
>
> Egw toulaxiston prospa0w apla na katalabw thn sunais0hmatikh bash tou
> fasismou. Den prospa0w na prosdwsw tipota. Alla otan o fasistas den
> boh0aei kai den ekshgei GIATI kai PWS egine fasistas, e, ti na kanw, 0a
> xrhsimopoihsw ta adeksia ergaleia mou gia na katalabw to fainomeno. Sto
Auto einai mia dikaiologia pou den me pei9ei. Tosoi alloi pou
diafwnoun me auta pou pisteuw den exoun ftasei se ena tetoio epipedo.
> xeri tou ka0e fasista einai na bgei kai na balei ta pramata sth 0esh tous.
Sou eipa palaiotera kati pragmata kai apo oti fainetai den se
ikanopoioun. Opws eipa kai polles fores, den me noiazei na "alla3w"
an9rwpous. Oso sthn 9esh sou esu kapote 9a mpeis gia ta kala.
>
> Alla oute gia tous koinwnikous stoxous (tous idiaiterous, tous
> xarakthristikous, pou ton diaforopoioun dhladhs) tou fasismou grafthke
> tipota, oute gia thn sunais0hmatikh bash tou.
Yparxoun. Ca3e kala kai 9a breis.
>
>
> > Pisw apo to prosxhma ths geleiopoihshs
> > an9rwpwn san kai emena, basika ektonwnate me to pio xudaio tropo ta
> > arrwsthmena apw9hmena sas
>
> Kanenas den prospa0ei na se geloiopoihsei giabroum. Na se katalaboume
To eidame. Oti arketoi den prospa9oun ( oson anafora sundromhtes
entos ths listas) sumfwnw.
>prospa0oume, alla esu den boh0as.
Afou toso e3upnos eisai, ereunhths eisai den xreiazesai thn
boh9eia mou.
>
>
> > ti eu9unomastai emeis twra;
>
> Atsa kai paraponiarhs o fasistas!
>
Koita pou gnwrizei na ekfrazetai kai magkika o perpathmenos:-)
Den htan parapono, alla dipistwsh.
>
> > H eirwnia einai oti prospa9hsate na
> > parousiasetai poso arrwsta atoma eimaste, alla h emmonh sas na to
> > apokalhcete me tetoiou eidous taktikh, arxise pisteuw na problhmatizei
> > orismena atoma gia thn dikh sas cuxikh katastash kai isorropia.
>
> Ma den einai arrwstos o fasistas. Antifatikos, nai. Dustuxismenos, isws.
Antifatikos, sumfwna me ta dika sou "conditioning":-))
> Makari na mporesoume na sas bgaloume apo tis ntoulapes sas na xareite ki eseis
> th zwh opws oi upoloipoi.
>
Egw proswpika mia xara eimai.
>
> > Euxaristw
> > telos, pou mou epen9umizete sunexws pws se atoma san esas ais9hmata
> > oiktou, sumponia, sumpa9ia kai katanohshs einai mia pragmatikh spatalh.
>
> Egw pantws giabroum kai se lupamai, kai se sumponw kai se sumpa0w. Oso
> gia thn katanohsh ekei prospa0w oso mporw, alla prepei na boh0hseis ki
> esu.
Koita pou mou thn bgainei Isou'i'tika:-) Na me katanohseis den me
endiaferei.
>
> Gouwt mehks giou thk, mah lhtl fashst?
It is beri simple, if giou ger a fashst. A xint. It ntos not
inbolb "sapresnt" se3oual filingks or ertzes.
>
>
> > 9odwrhs
>
> Mmmm, sto prohgoumeno htane 0eodwrou h tzifra... ti ginetai, 0'
> apofasiseis pws se lene?? :-)
>
Hdh edwsa e3hghsh, ka9hghta.
>
> giannhs
9odwrhs
>
> UG: Oso gia to paradeigma ths ellhnorwma.ikhs palhs san swmatikh epafh
> metaksu andrwn, to 0ema sthn fasistikh psuxologia einai bebaia h ekfrash
> ths epi0umias mesa apo oneira. O fasistas oneireuetai ksifologxes se
> kwlotrupides (tm Xrhstaras), oneireuetai ta idrwmena antri'kia kormia twn
> palaistwn. Ti ekfrazoun auta ta oneira? E, epi0umies ekfrazoun, ti allo?
Ta oneira den ekfrazoun mono epi9umies( rwta kai kanena Doktor)
Eisai mentioum kai 3ereis ti oneireuomai; Alla auta pou les me kanou me
reuomai!:-)
>[o palaisths anti0eta oneireuetai px xrusa metallia kai fhmh]
Kai edw 3ereis ti oneireuetai ka9e palaisths; ( fhmh isws gia orismenous,
alla autoi pou agapane to a9lhma kai asxolountai mono erasitexnika, den
exoun isws to kinhtro "metallio")
Theodore L Georgiou
To 3anastelnw epeidh eixa labei nwritera rejected posting. Esteila hdh
kata la9ws thn parembash tou sundromhth dixws tis nees mou parathrhseis.
9odwrhs
Hdh edwsa e3hghsh, ka9hghta.
>
> giannhs
9odwrhs
>
Eisai mentioum kai 3ereis ti oneireuomai; Alla auta pou les me kanoun na
Yiannis Koutalos
Grafei o "fasistas":
> Ta 8eodwrou, 8odwrakhs, Fon Teontoren einai onomata pou mou edwsan
> oi sundromhtes. Otan apantw se mhnuma me kapoio asteio xarakthra upografw
> etsi.
Kai giati den upografeis san ... Pantoubakhs na poume?
Alla san na mhn eftane auto, parekshgeis kai tis agnes pro0eseis mou:
> Auto einai mia dikaiologia pou den me pei9ei. Tosoi alloi pou
> diafwnoun me auta pou pisteuw den exoun ftasei se ena tetoio epipedo.
Poia einai auta pou pisteueis?? Egw egrapsa gia oneira me ksifologxes se
kwlotrupides, gumna, gualistera ki idrwmena antrika kormia, mpotes kai
mastigia. S' auta pisteueis ki auta oneireuesai??
> Sou eipa palaiotera kati pragmata kai apo oti fainetai den se
> ikanopoioun.
Genika belakses gia th sundesh fasismou kai krufo-omofulofilias. Gia to
ti 0ewreis fasismo omws kai gia to ti pisteueis, den egrapses tipota!
> > Alla oute gia tous koinwnikous stoxous (tous idiaiterous, tous
> > xarakthristikous, pou ton diaforopoioun dhladhs) tou fasismou grafthke
> > tipota, oute gia thn sunais0hmatikh bash tou.
>
>
> Yparxoun. Ca3e kala kai 9a breis.
Apo thn polh erxomai kai sthn korfh kanella. O fasismos den exei
ousiastikh ideologia, oute ousiastikes protaseis koinwnikhs
anadiorganwshs. Genika ekfrazei eite koinwnikh dusareskeia (sto
epipedo ths antidrashs mono) eite proswpikes prospa0eies ekplhrwshs
anomologhtwn epi0umiwn (to kunhgi ths fasistikhs kwlotrupidas). An
nomizeis oti ekfrazei kati allo, grapse duo-treis paragrafous pou na
xarakthrizoun kai na diakrinoun ton fasismo gia na sunennoh0oume.
> > Makari na mporesoume na sas bgaloume apo tis ntoulapes sas na xareite ki
eseis
> > th zwh opws oi upoloipoi.
>
> Egw proswpika mia xara eimai.
Egw akouw th fwnh tou fasistikou sou uposuneidhtou na fwnazei, na
strigglizei, na paleuei gia na bgei apo th ntoulapa... E, ti na kanoume,
euais0htos an0rwpos eimai, eipa na kanw to kalo...
giannhs
Vassilis Kostovassilis
On May 5, 10:06pm, Yiannis Koutalos wrote to Theodorou:
> Genika belakses gia th sundesh fasismou kai krufo-omofulofilias. Gia to
> ti 0ewreis fasismo omws kai gia to ti pisteueis, den egrapses tipota!
Ela. Na sou pw egw.
Basika xreiazomaste ena xarismatiko hgeth, ligo e8nikismo, ligo
antidhmokratismo me kanena diwgmo twn antipalwn (pou tous 8ewroume kai ligaki
kafrous), ligo laikismo, ligh epistrofh stis rizes, kamia parelash .h. telos
pantwn sygkentrwsh kai merika symbola-fetix kai slogan na'xoume na pisteyoume.
P.x.: Papandreou - 'by8isate to xwra' - prasinofrourikh aksiokratia me
dysmeneis
meta8eseis antipalwn - 'tsobola dwsta ola' - 'otan emeis re ftiaxname istoria
eseis trwgate belanidia' - sygkentrwseis ekatommyriwn pistwn sthn plateia
Syntagmatos - prasinous hlious kai 'allagh reeeeee'.
Basika sthn Ellada eisai o,ti dhlwseis na poume kai o Papandreou den dhlwse
pote fasistas. Telos probokatorikou merous.
> > > > Makari na mporesoume na sas bgaloume apo tis ntoulapes sas na xareite
ki
> > > eseis th zwh opws oi upoloipoi.
> >> > Egw proswpika mia xara eimai.
> > Egw akouw th fwnh tou fasistikou sou uposuneidhtou na fwnazei, na
> strigglizei, na paleuei gia na bgei apo th ntoulapa... E, ti na kanoume,
> euais0htos an0rwpos eimai, eipa na kanw to kalo...
Opa re altrouisth pou 8a didakseis tis xares ths zwhs... Emena h gnwmh mou
einai oti esy briskesai se megalyterh ntoulapa apo ton Theodorou. (Ki enas
tritos mporei na bgei kai na pei oti egw eimai se megalyterh ntoulapa ki apo
tous duo sas :-))
O anamarthtos prwtos apo th ntoulapa na bgei :-)
Vassilis
Theodore L Georgiou
(Ligo nwris shmera, giati 9a mpw meta polu arga:-)
Sunexizei o pare3hghmenos "koutalos":
> Grafei o "fasistas":
>
> > Ta 8eodwrou, 8odwrakhs, Fon Teontoren einai onomata pou mou edwsan
> > oi sundromhtes. Otan apantw se mhnuma me kapoio asteio xarakthra upografw
> > etsi.
>
> Kai giati den upografeis san ... Pantoubakhs na poume?
Hdh exw dwsei mia e3hghsh metamonterne anarxo'i'souith peri
onomatwn. Ti sunexizeis na exeis aporia se auto to "flegon" zhthma
tzanoum; Fainetai, mono ean uparxoun cuxologika "plegmata" mesa sthn
upo9esh, eisai se 9esh na katalabeis ti pragmati ennow:-) Ama hmoun toso
mpasmenos se cuxotropika (ops! cuxologika h9ela na pw:-) egxeiridia san
kai sena tapeine poluma9h, 8a htan dunaton na milhsw thn "glwssa" sou. To
onoma Pantoubakhs ti to mplekeis sthn olh upo9esh na'oum; Den mou aresei
etsi kai alliws na xrhsimopoihtai opoiodhpote onoma sundromhth, anti tou
onomatos ( h' ta paragwga tou:-) h' na ginetai tautish me to diko mou
onoma. Blepe upo9esh Sanidas, pou nomiza oti egine kati tetoio.
Aporia. H xrhsimopoihsh ek meros sou tou sugkekrimenou onomatos
(Pantoubakhs) ws paradeigma, htan ena Fro'i'ntian slhp;:-)
> Alla san na mhn eftane auto, parekshgeis kai tis agnes pro0eseis mou:
Koita pou einai a8wa peristera!!:-))
>
> > Auto einai mia dikaiologia pou den me pei9ei. Tosoi alloi pou
> > diafwnoun me auta pou pisteuw den exoun ftasei se ena tetoio epipedo.
>
> Poia einai auta pou pisteueis?? Egw egrapsa gia oneira me ksifologxes se
> kwlotrupides, gumna, gualistera ki idrwmena antrika kormia, mpotes kai
> mastigia. S' auta pisteueis ki auta oneireuesai??
Afou exw pei hdh kati gia ta parapanw, giati eisai riple'i' gia
niosth fora; H emmonh sou se auth thn sugkekrimenh erwthsh, ef'oson hdh
eipa kati pragmata, me bazei se skeceis, mhpws (lew mhpws:-) exei na kanei
me "katapiesmenes" epi9umies pou einai asfuktika balmenes mesa se difullh
ntoulapa sto uposuneidhto sou. Afou eisai TO mentioum, koita sto epomeno
trance ( oxi to eidos "mousikhs":-) na deis kai ti skeftomai:-))
>
>
> > Sou eipa palaiotera kati pragmata kai apo oti fainetai den se
> > ikanopoioun.
>
> Genika belakses gia th sundesh fasismou kai krufo-omofulofilias. Gia to
> ti 0ewreis fasismo omws kai gia to ti pisteueis, den egrapses tipota!
Me 3eskepases!:-)) Arxises na ekfrazeis sta sobara kata
kataptustes dhlwseis. Se mia stigmh kanw mia parembash. Esu mou thn
"bgaineis" eirwnikos kai srkastikos me enisxush gkrikgklis kai
"magkitikes" ekfraseis. Exeis to 9rasos meta apo thn sunexish mias tetoias
taktikhs na nomizeis oti 9a suzhthsw mazi sou; Kai oxi mono auto, mou to
paizei kai 9uma pare3hghshs kai zhtas kai ta resta apo panw Kardhnalie!
( Sto parel9on exw gracei kati chla)
>
>
> > > Alla oute gia tous koinwnikous stoxous (tous idiaiterous, tous
> > > xarakthristikous, pou ton diaforopoioun dhladhs) tou fasismou grafthke
> > > tipota, oute gia thn sunais0hmatikh bash tou.
> >
> >
> > Yparxoun.. Ca3e kala kai 9a breis.
>
> Apo thn polh erxomai kai sthn korfh kanella. O fasismos den exei
Mia sthn korufh, ama exei xionia ekei panou kane kai kana ski:-)
> ousiastikh ideologia, oute ousiastikes protaseis koinwnikhs
> anadiorganwshs. Genika ekfrazei eite koinwnikh dusareskeia (sto
> epipedo ths antidrashs mono) eite proswpikes prospa0eies ekplhrwshs
> anomologhtwn epi0umiwn (to kunhgi ths fasistikhs kwlotrupidas). An
Bale kai mesa sthn tsoukala sou apo to apo to biblio tou
Sternmpergk "Prosegggish sto Fasismo"- BTW dakrisa...apo ta gelia- ta peri
(sic) "mh afomeiwmena daneia idewn" kai anakatece ta, me thn tsigkinh
koutala sou, arketes fores me ta pro'u'parxousa ulika pou exeis mesa wste
na desei h "suntagh" sou kallitera:-) Mono mhn thn baleis to
"specialite'" sou dioti h chstaria sou "TA KOYTALADIKA" 9a baresei meta
apo shntomo xroniko diasthma dialhsh!:-))( BTW exw anafe9ei palu kati
chla sto parel9on kai prosfata eixa pei thn le3h Sampin kai kati alla
pragmata sxetika me ta parapanw. To upereuais9hto "rantar" sou omws, opws
fainetai den epiase tipota:-) Epishs, epanalambanw 3ana, ama prgmatika
endiafairesai kai ca3eis 9a breis. Edw brhka egw to ma9htaki:-))
> nomizeis oti ekfrazei kati allo, grapse duo-treis paragrafous pou na
> xarakthrizoun kai na diakrinoun ton fasismo gia na sunennoh0oume.
>
Kai edw to apokwrufwma tou resital pou dinei o Koutaloti! ( pws
leme Pavaroti:-) Meta apo olla apaiteis kai klif no'outs me to titlo
Fasismos! Ensarkwsh tou pneumatos tou Ignatius Loyola eisai H
periptwsh:-))) (BTW- 3ana 9a pw ta idia:-)- exw pei hdh
kati chla)
>
> > > Makari na mporesoume na sas bgaloume apo tis ntoulapes sas na xareite ki
> eseis
> > > th zwh opws oi upoloipoi.
> >
> > Egw proswpika mia xara eimai.
>
> Egw akouw th fwnh tou fasistikou sou uposuneidhtou na fwnazei, na
> strigglizei, na paleuei gia na bgei apo th ntoulapa... E, ti na kanoume,
Afou exei dunatothtes na akous tetoia fobera pragmata apo to
uposuneidhto mou, psychic-Tompra ( oxi trompas! Gia na mhn pare3hgh9w:-),
tote 9a eprepes na akouseis epishs, gouat me'i'ks a lhtl fashst la'i'k mi,
tik-tak:-)))
> euais0htos an0rwpos eimai, eipa na kanw to kalo...
.....Edw shkwnei polu gelio meta-monterne anarxoisou'i'ta. Euais9htos sta
oula sou isws. Giati me tis ampelofilosofikes kai fasoulidikes "analuseis"
sou "briskontas" eukairia apo ton Mishima e3 Iapwnias, proskopus, thn
9ewrhtikh metaxeirish ths prwktoophs sou meta metalikou aixmhrou
antikeimenou kai klp, se parathrhsa para polu aneto kai na solareis
akatapausta:-) H ampelofilosofia sou de, eftase se tetoio ba8mo, pou ama
ekanes trugo 9a anoiges proswpikh kaba, megale. Poios thn xarh sou.:-)
Oikos Koutalos, 1997. Oinos kitrinos me geush farmaki:-))
>
>
> giannhs
>
9odwrhs
YG. Ama, w ba8ustoxaste ereunhta, se "kaiei" to 9ema, ti telos
prgmatika epifulassoume se tsigkinous koutaliskous, eilikrina den mporw na
sto apokalhcw. Meta apo prosfath 9etikh parembash tou Xrhstara, uposxe9hka
ston euato mou, ma mhn apokalhptw apo kai pera tetoiou eidous euxaristes
ekplh3eis:-)
Yiannis Koutalos
Grafei to fantasma tou kubernoxwrou:
> Hdh exw dwsei mia e3hghsh metamonterne anarxo'i'souith peri onomatwn.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wx, pou tis ema0es autes tis lekseis esu, fasistas prama?
> Ti sunexizeis na exeis aporia se auto to "flegon" zhthma tzanoum;
Tzaaaanoum? Ti 0erma proskalesmata einai auta? Gnwrizomaste? :-)
> > Poia einai auta pou pisteueis?? Egw egrapsa gia oneira me ksifologxes se
> > kwlotrupides, gumna, gualistera ki idrwmena antrika kormia, mpotes kai
> > mastigia. S' auta pisteueis ki auta oneireuesai??
>
>
> Afou exw pei hdh kati gia ta parapanw, giati eisai riple'i' gia
> niosth fora; H emmonh sou se auth thn sugkekrimenh erwthsh, ef'oson hdh
> eipa kati pragmata,
shmainei oti mou exeis afhsei apories kai oti auta pou eipes me mperdepsan
akomh perissotero. Bgaineis kai paristaneis ton parekshghmeno fasista kai
me exeis sxedon peisei gia thn seksoualikh a0wothta sou (sto suneidhto sou
epipedo). Ti na kanoume, eimai eupistos kai kalopistos... Alla auto den
shmainei oti den eksakolou0w na aporw: an den einai seksoualika
apw0hmena ta kinhtra sou, w fasista, tote PWS egines fasistas?
> me bazei se skeceis, mhpws (lew mhpws:-) exei na kanei
> me "katapiesmenes" epi9umies pou einai asfuktika balmenes mesa se difullh
> ntoulapa sto uposuneidhto sou. Afou eisai TO mentioum, koita sto epomeno
> trance ( oxi to eidos "mousikhs":-) na deis kai ti skeftomai:-))
Tapame, ta ksanapame kai 0a ta ksanapoume: enas agnos kai tapeinos
melethths ths fasistikhs psuxosun0eshs kai erwtismou eimai. An den me
boh0hsete eseis oi fasistes na sas katalabw, tote poios 0a me boh0hsei?
Boh0eia kaloi mou an0rwpoi!
> Me 3eskepases!:-)) Arxises na ekfrazeis sta sobara kata
> kataptustes dhlwseis. Se mia stigmh kanw mia parembash. Esu mou thn
> "bgaineis" eirwnikos kai srkastikos me enisxush gkrikgklis kai
> "magkitikes" ekfraseis.
Hmarton! Zhtw tapeina suggnwmh an prosballa tis fasistikes sou
euais0hsies. Den eixa kanena tetoio skopo.
> Exeis to 9rasos meta apo thn sunexish mias tetoias
> taktikhs na nomizeis oti 9a suzhthsw mazi sou; Kai oxi mono auto, mou to
> paizei kai 9uma pare3hghshs kai zhtas kai ta resta apo panw Kardhnalie!
Deikse megalopsuxia fasista! Sxwrna mou ton ereunhtiko en0ousiasmo kai
deikse ligh mataiodoksia. Moirasou mazi mas ta mustika ths fasistikhs
psuxoulas sou!
> Bale kai mesa sthn tsoukala sou apo to apo to biblio tou
> Sternmpergk "Prosegggish sto Fasismo"- BTW dakrisa...apo ta gelia- ta peri
> (sic) "mh afomeiwmena daneia idewn" kai anakatece ta, me thn tsigkinh
> koutala sou, arketes fores me ta pro'u'parxousa ulika pou exeis mesa wste
> na desei h "suntagh" sou kallitera:-) Mono mhn thn baleis to
> "specialite'" sou dioti h chstaria sou "TA KOYTALADIKA" 9a baresei meta
> apo shntomo xroniko diasthma dialhsh!:-))( BTW exw anafe9ei palu kati
> chla sto parel9on kai prosfata eixa pei thn le3h Sampin kai kati alla
> pragmata sxetika me ta parapanw. To upereuais9hto "rantar" sou omws, opws
> fainetai den epiase tipota:-) Epishs, epanalambanw 3ana, ama prgmatika
> endiafairesai kai ca3eis 9a breis. Edw brhka egw to ma9htaki:-))
Ma endiaferomai kai epsaksa kai brhka. Auta pou egrapsa gia to fasismo
einai apo koinwnikh psuxologia kai apo to "Great transformation" tou
Polanyi (oikonomikh kai koinwnikh proseggish). Sigoura 0a uparxoune
kamposoi pou 0a parousiazoune ton fasismo san idiaitero susthma koinwnikhs
organwshs, alla upopteuomai oti to kanoune gia na kinhtopoihsoune ton
kosmo. Ama nomizeis diaforetika kai afou taxeis psaksei opws les, rikse
mia perilhpsh gia tis idiaiterothtes kai ta xarakthristika tou fasismou
san koinwnikh organwsh.
> Kai edw to apokwrufwma tou resital pou dinei o Koutaloti! ( pws
> leme Pavaroti:-) Meta apo olla apaiteis kai klif no'outs me to titlo
> Fasismos!
Apo pote h suntomh parousiash me dika sou logia gia to ti 0ewreis fasismo
(san fasistas pou eisai) einai klif noouts? 'H den taxeis ksemperdepsei
esu o idios sto mualo sou? (ki an den taxeis ksemperdepsei, pou 0a breis
kaluterh eukairia apo to kafeneio na ta ksemperdepseis?)
> .....Edw shkwnei polu gelio meta-monterne anarxoisou'i'ta. Euais9htos sta
> oula sou isws. Giati me tis ampelofilosofikes kai fasoulidikes "analuseis"
> sou "briskontas" eukairia apo ton Mishima e3 Iapwnias, proskopus, thn
> 9ewrhtikh metaxeirish ths prwktoophs sou meta metalikou aixmhrou
> antikeimenou kai klp,
!!!! Kane ena search gia "kolotrupida/es" (or0ografia Xrhstara) na deis
poioi exoune tis emmones idees. Ti na kanw? Eida ena fainomeno, mia
kanonikothta ths fushs bre paidi mou, "fasistas paei xeri-xeri me
kwlotrupides"... prospa0w na to katalabw.
giannhs
Theodore L Georgiou
Sunexizei o "Riselie" to bioli tou:
>
> Grafei to fantasma tou kubernoxwrou:
e3orkisth!
>
> > Hdh exw dwsei mia e3hghsh metamonterne anarxo'i'souith peri onomatwn.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Wx, pou tis ema0es autes tis lekseis esu, fasistas prama?
Ekana antbansed semhnars sto Mediolano, Xilh, Notio Brazilia kai
fusika sto pararthma sthn Agia Petroupolh( gia na mhn upar3ei kamia
sugxhsh, egkainiasthke meta thn katereush ths Sobietias:-)))
>
>
> > Ti sunexizeis na exeis aporia se auto to "flegon" zhthma tzanoum;
>
> Tzaaaanoum? Ti 0erma proskalesmata einai auta? Gnwrizomaste? :-)
>
3exnas tis "fulofronhseis" sou meta thn parembash mou; Aplws sta
giabroum sou, eipa na kotsarw kai egw ena tzanoum. Mia pou se exw
trellanei sth roxala, pou kai pou kanena "stagonidio" drosias, den
kanei kako:-) Oso ta peri gnwrimiwn, oxi den 9a parw ierofanth:-))
Rwtaei:
> > > Poia einai auta pou pisteueis?? Egw egrapsa gia oneira me ksifologxes se
> > > kwlotrupides, gumna, gualistera ki idrwmena antrika kormia, mpotes kai
> > > mastigia. S' auta pisteueis ki auta oneireuesai??
> >
>
Apantw:
>
> > Afou exw pei hdh kati gia ta parapanw, giati eisai riple'i' gia
> > niosth fora; H emmonh sou se auth thn sugkekrimenh erwthsh, ef'oson hdh
> > eipa kati pragmata,
>
3ana!:-)))
> shmainei oti mou exeis afhsei apories kai oti auta pou eipes me mperdepsan
> akomh perissotero. Bgaineis kai paristaneis ton parekshghmeno fasista kai
Kane dialogismo Kardinalie, upo thn epiblech tou fileusplaxnou Komhtos
Drakoula ( ops! Mpakounin h9ela na pw:-)
> me exeis sxedon peisei gia thn seksoualikh a0wothta sou (sto suneidhto sou
> epipedo). Ti na kanoume, eimai eupistos kai kalopistos... Alla auto den
Koita kati Isou'i'tikous eligmous!! Koita na deis. Otan egrafes
auta ta rhparografhmata kai eufiologhmata ( kai ta ennoouses kai sta
sobara!!!!) me orgises. Den einai "pare3hghsh" kai kala megale etsi kai
kokoretsi. Gia auto kai parenebhka. Twra exeis akoma to 9rasos na milas
oti se exw sxedon peisei( kati pou me afhnei adiaforo) kai meta les oti h
se3oualikh a9wothta einai mono se suneidhto epipedo!!!! Sto uposuneidhto
ti sumbainei Tsigko; Mhpws me to "rantar" epiases kai parasita kai den
eisai akoma se 9esh na katalabeis ti e3epemce to uposuneidhto mou gia to
sugkekrimeno 9ema profhto-korie!!
> shmainei oti den eksakolou0w na aporw: an den einai seksoualika
Kai egw e3akoulou9w na aporw oti DEN katalabes, oti suzhthsh
sugkekrimena mazi sou den 9a anoi3w.
> apw0hmena ta kinhtra sou, w fasista, tote PWS egines fasistas?
Giati endiafairesai Isou'i'ta; Apo ka9ara egkuklopaidiko
endiaferon;:-))
>
>
> > me bazei se skeceis, mhpws (lew mhpws:-) exei na kanei
> > me "katapiesmenes" epi9umies pou einai asfuktika balmenes mesa se difullh
> > ntoulapa sto uposuneidhto sou. Afou eisai TO mentioum, koita sto epomeno
> > trance ( oxi to eidos "mousikhs":-) na deis kai ti skeftomai:-))
>
> Tapame, ta ksanapame kai 0a ta ksanapoume: enas agnos kai tapeinos
Thn agnothta sou duskola na thn dei kanenas me thn prosfath
Internetikh poreia sou. Tapeinos; Pou eixes balei skopo na "sokareis" kai
na "mperdeceis"-blepe palaiotera mhnumata sou- to koino. Oute exeis diko
to analogo sebasmo, gia arketa 9emata kai proswpa sxetika me thn Ellada.
> melethths ths fasistikhs psuxosun0eshs kai erwtismou eimai. An den me
:-)))))))) Twra pia einai arga. Oi pra3eis sou milhsan pio dunata
apo tis dhlwseis autes. Ase pou oso sunexizeis toso eirwnikos mou fainesai
me auta anarxoisou'i'th. Eida pou eixes analabeis to rolo tou "e3orkisth"
san zhlwths apo thn Opus Dei! Den h9eles na afhseis kanena demonio,
fantasmata kai "mu9ous" kata ese mesa sth lista. Klassikos ekproswpos tou
Pneumatikou Mesaiwna pou dianhoume sthn Eurwph ( kai den milw fusika gia
thn texnologia).
> boh0hsete eseis oi fasistes na sas katalabw, tote poios 0a me boh0hsei?
Ma epanalambanw, giati; Kai sou lew poios o logos na mas
katalabeis; 9eleis akoma kai "boh9eia" meta to mpaxalo pou
dhmiourghses me ta tsigkina koutaloplegmata sou! Apo 9uths koutalokunhgos,
se metalla3h kai kala "Fratziskianou" Monaxou:-)) Auto einai karampinato
anarxo'i'souitiko paradeigma, ba9ustoxaste:-)
> Boh0eia kaloi mou an0rwpoi!
Autos pou eixe parei thn bariopoula kai kopanage o,ti ebriske mprosta
tou, twra sto rolo kunhghmenou:-))) Alla kai edw amfibalw ama einai
eilikrinhs "kraugh" apognwshs. Prokeitai gia sarkasmo, prwtou mege9ous:-)
>
>
> > Me 3eskepases!:-)) Arxises na ekfrazeis sta sobara kata
> > kataptustes dhlwseis. Se mia stigmh kanw mia parembash. Esu mou thn
> > "bgaineis" eirwnikos kai srkastikos me enisxush gkrikgklis kai
> > "magkitikes" ekfraseis.
>
> Hmarton! Zhtw tapeina suggnwmh an prosballa tis fasistikes sou
Kala kai se ebgala kai Isou'i'th. Apo thn mia na mhn deis "rasso",
kai apo thn allh Benediktinos Monaxos se Grhgorianes Calmwdies:-))
>euais0hsies. Den eixa kanena tetoio skopo.
Den prosbales tis euais9hsies mou, alla kati xeirwtero. Xint. Ht
hs som9igk dat giou gil neber hab, as mats as giou tra'i'.
>
>
> > Exeis to 9rasos meta apo thn sunexish mias tetoias
> > taktikhs na nomizeis oti 9a suzhthsw mazi sou; Kai oxi mono auto, mou to
> > paizei kai 9uma pare3hghshs kai zhtas kai ta resta apo panw Kardhnalie!
>
> Deikse megalopsuxia fasista! Sxwrna mou ton ereunhtiko en0ousiasmo kai
Apo eirwnia skizeis. Esu pou den exeis osio kai iero kai o,ti
exei na kanei me Ellada koitas na to "katastreceis". Epishs den gnwriza
oti o ereunhtikos en9ousiasmos sou se w9ei ,ws tapeinos ereunhths pou
dhlwneis, na geleiopoieis kai na xudaiologeis gia sobara pragmata. Kai oxi
auto kai meta na anaskeuazeis kai na parousiazesai wsan "osiomarturas":-)
Ti transformations einai auta; Sa na ekanes "metamosxeush" diaforetikhs
proswpikothtas.
> deikse ligh mataiodoksia. Moirasou mazi mas ta mustika ths fasistikhs
To megalocuxia, sugxwresh kai mataiodo3ia mou 9umizoun legomena
Isou'i'th perihghth:-)) To mazi MAS ti to 9eleis; Me palaioterous
sundromhtes exoun suzhth9ei orismena pragmata.
> psuxoulas sou!
Ti pratteis kai xreh e3omologhth, Kardinalie;:-)))) Ante traba kai
kanto me tous pistous ths "enorias" sou.
>
>
> > Bale kai mesa sthn tsoukala sou apo to apo to biblio tou
> > Sternmpergk "Prosegggish sto Fasismo"- BTW dakrisa...apo ta gelia- ta peri
> > (sic) "mh afomeiwmena daneia idewn" kai anakatece ta, me thn tsigkinh
> > koutala sou, arketes fores me ta pro'u'parxousa ulika pou exeis mesa wste
> > na desei h "suntagh" sou kallitera:-) Mono mhn thn baleis to
> > "specialite'" sou dioti h chstaria sou "TA KOYTALADIKA" 9a baresei meta
> > apo shntomo xroniko diasthma dialhsh!:-))( BTW exw anafe9ei palu kati
> > chla sto parel9on kai prosfata eixa pei thn le3h Sampin kai kati alla
> > pragmata sxetika me ta parapanw. To upereuais9hto "rantar" sou omws, opws
> > fainetai den epiase tipota:-) Epishs, epanalambanw 3ana, ama prgmatika
> > endiafairesai kai ca3eis 9a breis. Edw brhka egw to ma9htaki:-))
>
> Ma endiaferomai kai epsaksa kai brhka. Auta pou egrapsa gia to fasismo
Mpravo sou, xtuphses "fleba":-))) omws. Twra ti 9eleis na ma9eis
poluma9h ef'oson exeis kai tis "au9enties" epi tou 9ematos;:-)
> einai apo koinwnikh psuxologia kai apo to "Great transformation" tou
> Polanyi (oikonomikh kai koinwnikh proseggish). Sigoura 0a uparxoune
> kamposoi pou 0a parousiazoune ton fasismo san idiaitero susthma koinwnikhs
> organwshs, alla upopteuomai oti to kanoune gia na kinhtopoihsoune ton
> kosmo. Ama nomizeis diaforetika kai afou taxeis psaksei opws les, rikse
> mia perilhpsh gia tis idiaiterothtes kai ta xarakthristika tou fasismou
Palu deja vu me klif no'outs. 9eleis kai perilhceis. Lew palu gia
na to katalabeis. Palaiotera exw pei kati pragmata kai me sena gia logous
pou hdh polu 3EKA9ARA diatupwsa, oti mhn perimeneis dialogo me mena.
Exeis polu 9rasos na sunexizeis to bioli sou. Omilhte thn Ellhnikh h'
9eleis ton Poulakh na sou kanei nohmata;:-)
> san koinwnikh organwsh.
>
>
> > Kai edw to apokwrufwma tou resital pou dinei o Koutaloti! ( pws
> > leme Pavaroti:-) Meta apo olla apaiteis kai klif no'outs me to titlo
> > Fasismos!
>
> Apo pote h suntomh parousiash me dika sou logia gia to ti 0ewreis fasismo
> (san fasistas pou eisai) einai klif noouts? 'H den taxeis ksemperdepsei
Giati mou zhtas perilhceis kata paraggelia "tapeine" "ereunhth"
Palu zhtas kai ta resta apo panw; Eisai swou:-))
> esu o idios sto mualo sou? (ki an den taxeis ksemperdepsei, pou 0a
breis
> kaluterh eukairia apo to kafeneio na ta ksemperdepseis?)
Egw ta exw mia xara sto mualo mou. Opws mou aresei na lew:
Hremia, Ta3is kai Asfaleia. Ti 9eleis re Koutaloti kai bazeis kai thn
lista sthn mesh; Anaba9mustike o rolos sou; Ti (tm) exeis upo thn aighda
sou;:-))) Egines Kardinalios kai nomizes oti egines kai Papas;:-)
>
>
> > .....Edw shkwnei polu gelio meta-monterne anarxoisou'i'ta. Euais9htos sta
> > oula sou isws. Giati me tis ampelofilosofikes kai fasoulidikes "analuseis"
> > sou "briskontas" eukairia apo ton Mishima e3 Iapwnias, proskopus, thn
> > 9ewrhtikh metaxeirish ths prwktoophs sou meta metalikou aixmhrou
> > antikeimenou kai klp,
>
Ekoces ta parakatw sxolia kai freno stous sfugkthres. Alloi exoun
to onoma kai allh exoun thn "xarh" ( dhladh esu). Sou exei ginei "cuxwsh"
mou fainetai:-)
> !!!! Kane ena search gia "kolotrupida/es" (or0ografia Xrhstara) na deis
> poioi exoune tis emmones idees. Ti na kanw? Eida ena fainomeno, mia
> kanonikothta ths fushs bre paidi mou, "fasistas paei xeri-xeri me
> kwlotrupides"... prospa0w na to katalabw.
>
>
> giannhs
>
>
9odwrhs