Apeleu0erwsh, h monh lush
Emmanuel Skoufos
On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Constantinos A. Constantinides wrote:
[snip]
>H eirhnh, enw
> akougetai polu wraia, e3uphretei apokleistika tous Tourkous katakthtes.
>
> Den noeitai eirhnh, an den prohgh0ei h apeleu0erwsis ths Kuprou. Kai h
> apeule0erwsis eprepe kai prepei na einai o monadikos mas stoxos.
>
> H eirhnh sthn Kypro tote monon einai dunath, otan fugei kai o teleutaios
> Tourkos stratiwths kai epoikos, otan epistreyoun oloi oi prosfuges, otan
> epanaleitourghsoun oles oi ekklhsies kai ta monasthria kai otan upar3oun
> ekeines oi proupo0eseis wste na mhn epanalhf0ei to egklhma pou arxise to 1974
> kai sunexizetai mexri shmera.
Dhladh gia sena o polemos einai h kaluterh lush...
Poion e3uphretei o polemos, mporeis na mas peis?
Mhpws to egklhma tou '74 xreiazetai alla egklhmata gia na "isofaristei"?
Dhladh xreiazetai na xu0ei ki allo aima! Mexri pote re paidia? Poso aima
newn an0rwpwn (Tourkwn, Kupriwn kai Ellhnwn) 0a einai arketo gia sas...
>
> Mexri ekeinh thn mera, emeis 0a fwnazoume kai 0a rixnoume petres.
Ta parapanw mou fainontai perissotero san "eirhnikh diadhlwsh" para san
prosklhshse polemo;-)
>Otan
> apeleu0erw0ei h Kypros, tote 0a kanoume glenti sthn Keruneia.
Dhladh gia na poiasw to nohma tou mail sou:
-Ante pate na polemhsete, na skotwsete kai na skotw0eitai
-enw emeis 0a fwnazoume kai 0a petame petres
-kai sto telos 0a kanoume glenti oloi mazi...
Auto ennoeis? .h. kanw la0os >:-)
>Kai monon otan
> ola 0a teleiwsoun tote mporoume na ka0hsoume mazi me thn Tourkikh meionothta
> na doume pws mporoume na ftia3oume eirhniko periballon.
>
> Oi diafores Tourkikes kai Ellhnikes eirhnistikes omades, as suneidhtopoihsoun
> oti ex0ros olwn mas einai to Tourkiko ka0estws kai auto prepei na prospa0oun
> na dialusoun.
Oi eirhnistikes omades (kai proswpa) den exoun "ex0rous", e3 orismou;-)
Opote duskolo na suneidhtopoih0ei to parapanw...
>Dioti ta peri eirhnhs den exoun pros to parwn 0esh sthn Kupro,
> oute akomh kai sthn idia thn Tourkia.
>
>
0elw na pisteuw oti eisai sthn meioyhfeia kai twn sumpatriwtwn sou kai
twn Ellhnwn kai twn Tourkwn pou skeftontai etsi, giati alliws asta na pane...
Katannow to problhma sou me thn katastash pou uparxei ston topo sou edw
kai eikosiduo xronia, alla den katannow ton tropo me ton opoion to
antimetwpizeis o opoios ektos apo anwrimos kai anapotelesmatikos einai kai
akra egwistikos (an den katalabaineis to giati, euxaristws sto e3hgw)...
> Kwnstantinos
>
Manwlhs
Nikos Sarantakos
Egrapse o C.A.Constantinides:
> Se mia hmikatexomenh patrida opws h Kypros, me tous 200 xiliades
prosfuges
> kai tous 2 xiliades agnooumenous, me ton sunexizomeno 3erizwmo twn
elaxistwn
> enapomeinantwn Ellhnwn egklwbismenwn, me thn stadiakh kai sustimatikh
> e3afanish ka0e Ellhnikou kai Xristianikou stoixeiou apo ton katexomeno
borra,
> me tis sunexizomenes ka0hmerines apeiles gia plhrh Tourkopoihsh, me tis
> parabiaseis tou enaeriou xwrou ths Kuprou kai tou Aigaiou kai tis apeiles
gia
> katalhyh Ellhnikwn nhsiwn, h ennoia eirhnh den exei 0esh. H eirhnh, enw
> akougetai polu wraia, e3uphretei apokleistika tous Tourkous katakthtes.
>
> Den noeitai eirhnh, an den prohgh0ei h apeleu0erwsis ths Kuprou. Kai h
> apeule0erwsis eprepe kai prepei na einai o monadikos mas stoxos.
>
> H eirhnh sthn Kypro tote monon einai dunath, otan fugei kai o teleutaios
> Tourkos stratiwths kai epoikos, otan epistreyoun oloi oi prosfuges, otan
> epanaleitourghsoun oles oi ekklhsies kai ta monasthria kai otan upar3oun
> ekeines oi proupo0eseis wste na mhn epanalhf0ei to egklhma pou arxise to
1974
> kai sunexizetai mexri shmera.
>
> Mexri ekeinh thn mera, emeis 0a fwnazoume kai 0a rixnoume petres. Otan
> apeleu0erw0ei h Kypros, tote 0a kanoume glenti sthn Keruneia. Kai monon
otan
> ola 0a teleiwsoun tote mporoume na ka0hsoume mazi me thn Tourkikh
meionothta
> na doume pws mporoume na ftia3oume eirhniko periballon.
>
> Oi diafores Tourkikes kai Ellhnikes eirhnistikes omades, as
suneidhtopoihsoun
> oti ex0ros olwn mas einai to Tourkiko ka0estws kai auto prepei na
prospa0oun
> na dialusoun. Dioti ta peri eirhnhs den exoun pros to parwn 0esh sthn
Kupro,
> oute akomh kai sthn idia thn Tourkia.
>
>
> Kwnstantinos
>
>
> http://www.iit.edu/~conscon/cyprus/cyprus.html
>
H dikh mou aporia einai jekarfwth, isws omws kai oxi.
Thn allh mera pou skotwsan ton Isaak, egrace sthn Eleyqerotupia o
Mixahlidhs gia ta forthga pou kaqe mera metaferoun sthn eleuqerh Kupro
Tourkokuprious ergates apo to boreio tmhma, gia na ergastoun se douleies
twn Ellhnokupriwn, san tous Albanous sthn Ellada. Den eida diaceush
pouqena.
Nikos Sarantakos
Luxembourg
Phidias Bourlas
Grafei o Dnm. Tamalns stov Kwv. Kwvstavtividn:
>
> Ma esy eisai autos pou milaei evavtia stov efnsuxasmo mas ws e0vous kai
> stnv avagkaiotnta praksewv kai oxi logwv gia tnv avtimetwpisn twv Tourkwv.
> Katalaba apo t mnvuma sou opws kai alloi favtazomai oti gia polemo
> milouses otav zntouses apeleu0erwsn giati tetoio frouto xwris polemo kai
> malista ap tous Tourkous dev prokeitai va doume.
> Ti allo evvoouses;
>
Loipov. Arxizoume me evisxusn twv Evoplwv Duvamewv, summaxia
kai evisxusn twv ex8rwv tns Tourkias, dnmiourgia eidikwv movadwv
saboteurs, commandos, praktorwv, kataskopwv k.a., meletnmeva
plngmata kata tourkikwv stoxwv, k.lp. k.lp. Kai blepoume.
F.M.
U.G. Skebouln, eleos, de 8elw sxolia! :-)
F.M.
Christos Ktenas
On 9 Sep 96 Bill Pontikakis shared with us :
> > >
> > Esu omws 0a polemouses etsi kai ginotan polemos??? H mono logia eisai:-)
> > 0eloume eilikrinh apanthsh kai oxi ta gnwsta famfarwnika sou pertipia...
>
> Na sou dwsw tnv dikn mou eilikrivn apavtnsn? Evw eimai movo kavados
> politns kai oxi Ellnvas kai skapoularw tov polemo, otav eimouv stnv Krntn
> tnv stigmn pou egeivav oi skotwmoi stnv Kupro, elpiza va givei polemos
> kai va parw eva polubolo sto xeri kai va 8erizw opoiov Tourko brw mprosta
> mou.
>
Diladi Basili gia an xoume kai kalo rotima an mauri i ora ginei kanenas
polemos esi telika tha ton skapoulareis opos les i tha pareis to polibolo?
CK
Check your gun.
Philosophers and perfectionists in plain clothes inside.
Aggeliki Barberopoulou
> Nai ontws (diana ekanes, kerdizeis karioka Papaparaskeua;-) ) opws eipe
> kapoios kapote "fobamai ola auta pou 0a ginoun gia mena xwris emena"...
>
> Manwlhs
Pou tov ema0es tov Papaparaskeua? Exei polles kales kariokes stnv 3av0n! :)
ama givouv xwris eseva omws auto snmaivei pws ola ta edafn 0a epistreyouv se
mas xwris esu va kouvnseis to daxtulaki sou opote eseva ti se melei?
--
Gluko vero stnv kolasn 0a pioume edw mazi sou emeis pou megalwsame me tnv
avapvon sou......
Movo va se dw va servesai sav to skoulnki ki as pe0avw meta..
Joseph Kostakis
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Aggeliki Barberopoulou wrote:
> >
> > Auto ennoeis? .h. kanw la0os >:-)
>
> pngaive prwtn grammn...
>
Esu omws 0a polemouses etsi kai ginotan polemos??? H mono logia eisai:-)
0eloume eilikrinh apanthsh kai oxi ta gnwsta famfarwnika sou pertipia...
Shfakas o meraklhs
>
> > 0elw na pisteuw oti eisai sthn meioyhfeia kai twn sumpatriwtwn sou kai
> > twn Ellhnwn kai twn Tourkwn pou skeftontai etsi, giati alliws asta na
pane...
> >
> > Katannow to problhma sou me thn katastash pou uparxei ston topo sou edw
> > kai eikosiduo xronia, alla den katannow ton tropo me ton opoion to
> > antimetwpizeis o opoios ektos apo anwrimos kai anapotelesmatikos einai kai
> > akra egwistikos (an den katalabaineis to giati, euxaristws sto e3hgw)...
>
> ehgw vomizw pws foBasai giati exei dikio...
> Makari va uparxpouv ki alloi sav ki autov makari!!!!
Aggeliki Barberopoulou
> Dhladh gia sena o polemos einai h kaluterh lush...
> Poion e3uphretei o polemos, mporeis na mas peis?
> Mhpws to egklhma tou '74 xreiazetai alla egklhmata gia na "isofaristei"?
> Dhladh xreiazetai na xu0ei ki allo aima! Mexri pote re paidia? Poso aima
> newn an0rwpwn (Tourkwn, Kupriwn kai Ellhnwn) 0a einai arketo gia sas...
Ka0e mera sxedov xuvetai aima xwris polemo..0avatoi se aeromaxies 0avatos
Kupriwv sta suvora klp klp dnladn autoi kala pe0avave e dev peirazei twra
autous 0a skeftomaste etsi?
Giati oi eirnvikes me0odoi dev eixav apotelesma dev eivai arketo auto gia seva?
> -Ante pate na polemhsete, na skotwsete kai na skotw0eitai
> -enw emeis 0a fwnazoume kai 0a petame petres
> -kai sto telos 0a kanoume glenti oloi mazi...
>
> Auto ennoeis? .h. kanw la0os >:-)
Pisteuw akradavta pws kaveis la0os. Emeva mou faivetai gia atomo pou prwto 0a
pngaive prwtn grammn...
Bill Pontikakis
> >
> Esu omws 0a polemouses etsi kai ginotan polemos??? H mono logia eisai:-)
> 0eloume eilikrinh apanthsh kai oxi ta gnwsta famfarwnika sou pertipia...
Na sou dwsw tnv dikn mou eilikrivn apavtnsn? Evw eimai movo kavados
politns kai oxi Ellnvas kai skapoularw tov polemo, otav eimouv stnv Krntn
tnv stigmn pou egeivav oi skotwmoi stnv Kupro, elpiza va givei polemos
kai va parw eva polubolo sto xeri kai va 8erizw opoiov Tourko brw mprosta
mou.
Mporei va skapoularw tov polemo alla exw periousies stnv Ellada kai
fusika evas polemos 8a eferve se meva kai tnv oikogeveia mou mia
oikovomikn katastrofn. Omws afou blepw tous Tourkous va eivai akoma
BARBAROI (Turks are still Barbarians (for the turks who might read this from
the newsgroups)) protimw va givei evas polemos kai va paroume pisw to aima
mas kai ta edafn pou mas avnkouv. Dev xreiazomaste skotwmevous nrwes,
evav veo Eleu8erio Bevizelo xreiazomaste pou 8a tov afnsei n Ellada autn
tnv fora va kavei to swsto.
Basika 8a suvexisw me tov diko mou tropo tnv AvtiTourkikn mou propagavda.
Opws exw to article tns European kai tis fwto me tous apokefalismevous
Kourdous, exw ferei apo tnv Ellada efumerides me tous 2 skotwmous kai
episns tnv Athens News gia articles sta Agglika (giati me evdiaferei n
3evn koivn gvwmn kai oxi n Ellnvikn, autn eivai mazi mas etsi kai alliws).
>
> Shfakas o meraklhs
>
Bill Pontikakis (WildGreek)
webm...@olympiakos.com
Phidias Bourlas
Grafei o Swtnrns Skeboulns:
>
> > Loipov. Arxizoume me evisxusn twv Evoplwv Duvamewv, summaxia
> > kai evisxusn twv ex8rwv tns Tourkias, dnmiourgia eidikwv movadwv
> > saboteurs, commandos, praktorwv, kataskopwv k.a., meletnmeva
> > plngmata kata tourkikwv stoxwv, k.lp. k.lp. Kai blepoume.
> >
>
> Molis ftiaxthka , ki etoimazomoun gia reply, na sou to ksenerwma...ftou!
>
Eimai provontikos. Alla kai... dioratikos, opws faivetai!
>
> Panta megalopsyxos,
> Sotiris, Chicago
>
F.M.
U.G. Bebaiws, kata pasav pi8avotnta, meta3u tous skotw8nkav, alla
leme twra.
U.G.2. H Ciller dnlwse pws 8a eisballei sto Irak gia va prostateyei
tous... "Tourkomavous"!!! Faivetai pws n Tourkia e3afavizei
e8votntes sto eswteriko kai... efeuriskei vees sto e3wteriko!
Snmeiwteov oti ta suvora Tourkias-Irak ka8orizovtai apo tn
suv8nkn tns Lwzavns. H upo8esn loipov exei kai autn tn snmasia.
F.M.
Angelos Lazoudis
On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Constantinos A. Constantinides wrote:
> apeule0erwsis eprepe kai prepei na einai o monadikos mas stoxos.
>
Me aforologhta autokinhta kai adasmologhtes fwtografikes mhxanes kai video?
As dwsei kai h kupros to 5 % tou ethsiou proupologismou ths gia amuna
(opws kanei h ellada) kai as anaptu3oume koina stratiwtika programmata.
Kai tote kai pali me epifula3h ,exontas omws kapoia empistosunh stis
idies mas tis dunameis to suzhtame....
An kai proswpika pisteuw pws h megisth epituxia 8a htan h paradosh
ths ammwxostou san endei3h kalhs 8elhsews apo thn tourkikh pleura (an kai
pote den egine energeia kalhs 8elhsews apo Tourkia)...
To problhma omws tote 8a einai ta antallagmata: anagnwrish tou
yeudokratous h enta3h ths kuprou sthn E.E ws omospondiako kratos!...
Ase kalutera...
Angelos "arxangelos"