Peri fasistariou...
4n AYGOYSTOY
Leei o Koutsablos: Me evdiaferei o fasistikos erwtismos, opws ekfrazetai apo tn
fasistikn kormara!!!
Megale Koutsable,
To mustiko tns fasistikns kormaras eivai n fasistikn poutsara pragma pou
0a sto elege kai n kolotrupida sou av tn rwtouses, ka0oti oi kolotrupides
akolou0ouv tnv arxaia Ellnvikn suvn0eia kai leve ta pramata me t'ovoma tous.
Av auto dev sumbaivei me seva, ftaiei n dnmokratikn sou brwmokolara.
Etsi avti va xareis fasistiko idrwta se blepw me bazelivn sta pomola. Omws mnv
avnsuxeis, exw diabebaiwseis apo tov Sakellaridn oti dev prokeitai gia
avwmalia. Kai autos eyaxve gia fasistikn ywln kai telika boleutnke me tov skulo
tou Leo. Otav teleiwsei partov esu, av dev tov xreiazetai bebaia to
arxidiabolaki.
Sto aiwvio sou erwtnma, sou apavtw gia pollostn fora: Tnv briskoume me
3ifologxes karfwmeves stis kolotrupides sas. Prokeitai gia 0eama pou kalliergei
tis kallitexvikes mas euais0nsies kai galnveuei tnv yuxn mas (Sakellaridn auto
eivai mnpws avwmalia?) Pes mou ti allo 0es va 3ereis gia tis idiaiterotntes mas
kai 0a sto sfuri3w me tov mageutiko nxo tns fasistikn klavias...
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
Athanassios Protopapas
Re su Xrnstara olo gia kwlotrupides mas ta les. Gia koita sto
le3iko sou "yuxwsn" mpas kai pareis kammia idea. Episns kai sto
"International manual of sexual perversions and abnormalities"
(3erei o Mpourlas leptomereies, eivai grammevo apo eidikous).
0a se bon9nsei va breis tov eauto sou kai va sumfiliw9eis me
tnv pragmatikotnta. Kai bges ap'tn vtoulapa priv sou givei movimn
n vaf9alivila.
Filakia sta moustakia (allou de 9a mporesw, rwta to skulo sou
mnpws evdiaferetai)
0avasns
-allou-
Lida Anestidou
On 30 Apr 97 at 23:27, 4n AYGOYSTOY wrote:
>
> Megale Koutsable,
> To mustiko tns fasistikns kormaras
kai autoi pou einai kontoi, xontrroi kai liparoi san kai tou logou
sou, einai apotelesma la9ous ths fushs h prosomiwshs tou Meta3a?
eivai n fasistikn poutsara
dhladh, oloi oi fasistes einai "poutsarades"?
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
mhpws einai kai POLYAMOROUS???????
Kai autos eyaxve gia fasistikn ywln kai telika boleutnke me tov
skulo
> tou Leo. Otav teleiwsei partov esu, av dev tov xreiazetai bebaia to
> arxidiabolaki.
Entelws plhroforiaka, o leo den exei skulo..
Esu bare8hkes to donhth kai arxises tis kthnobasies twra? ti egine
ekeinh h gallida pou mas eleges? pali gia thn barbie doll milages?
to arxidiabolaki >:->
Christos Papadas
Paramilaei n gria kovsomavsou...
>On 30 Apr 97 at 23:27, 4n AYGOYSTOY wrote:
>
>> Megale Koutsable,
>> To mustiko tns fasistikns kormaras
>kai autoi pou einai kontoi, xontrroi kai liparoi san kai tou logou
>sou, einai apotelesma la9ous ths fushs h prosomiwshs tou Meta3a?
Poios eivai kovtos kai xovtros mwrn gamiola tou paraliakou?? Tov Leo
oveireuesai pali??? H mnpws me brizeis epeidn dev eimai
sabourogamns sav tous "0aumastes sou"??? ;-)
>>eivai n fasistikn poutsara
>dhladh, oloi oi fasistes einai "poutsarades"?
>WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Eidika oi 4augoustiavoi... 0a sou kavoviza demonstration alla ws avefera,
3emeivame apo sabourogamndes.
>mhpws einai kai POLYAMOROUS???????
mnpws dev eisai aplo koureli alla polupatsaboura????? ;-)
>> Kai autos eyaxve gia fasistikn ywln kai telika boleutnke me tov
>>skulo
> >tou Leo. Otav teleiwsei partov esu, av dev tov xreiazetai bebaia to
> >arxidiabolaki.
>Entelws plhroforiaka, o leo den exei skulo..
Giati, se gamnse kai yofnse??
>Esu bare8hkes to donhth kai arxises tis kthnobasies twra? ti egine
Ktnvobasies egw??? Ma dev sa gamnsa pote!!!
>ekeinh h gallida pou mas eleges? pali gia thn barbie doll milages?
Ela vte, rwta kai tous owners va sou pouv pws perimevei akoma ekeivo
to... subscribe hellas... Egw ftaiw??? ;-)
>to arxidiabolaki >:->
to arxifasistaki
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
Lida Anestidou
On 6 May 97 at 1:44, Christos Papadas wrote:
> Poios eivai kovtos kai xovtros mwrn gamiola tou paraliakou?? Tov Leo
> oveireuesai pali???
Kitso:
ta parapona sou gia thn emfanish sou sth mhtera Fysh pou se
dhmiourghse kat'eikona kai ka8'omoiwsin ths mpoukalas tou
mpooulingk.
Egw metaferw thn perigrafh sou, opws thn exw akousei apo
sunlistobious...(mh se ekplhsei to gegonos, edw mesa , opws 3ereis
apo PRWTO xeri, h koinwnikh kritikh paei sunnefo)
>
> Eidika oi 4augoustiavoi... 0a sou kavoviza demonstration alla ws avefera,
> 3emeivame apo sabourogamndes.
8es na peis oti apo thn pollh idioxrhsia, sou epese kai thn
psaxneis...gnwsto to fainomeno...
> mnpws dev eisai aplo koureli alla polupatsaboura????? ;-)
> Giati, se gamnse kai yofnse??
>> Ktnvobasies egw??? Ma dev sa gamnsa pote!!!
prepei, epitelous, na apofasiseis:
eimai kota, skula (htis Bitch), patsaboura, ti telos pantwn?
kai afou apofasiseis, pes mas giati tetoio menos me tis gunaikes
kai olh sou h gluka afierwnetai sto anndriko fullo????
> to arxifasistaki
to arxidaki,9es na eipeis
Lhda
Lhda
"...she has a house and garden,
...I would like to see what happens..."
Christos Papadas
Xe xe... avwvumes marturies peri tns emfavisews mou kukloforouv blepw stn=
lista.....kai me yemmatakia malista :-))))
>On 6 May 97 at 1:44, Christos Papadas wrote:
>> Poios eivai kovtos kai xovtros mwrn gamiola tou paraliakou?? Tov Leo
>> oveireuesai pali???
>Kitso:
Nai vtarlivgk...
>ta parapona sou gia thn emfanish sou sth mhtera Fysh pou se
Ma giati vtarlivgk?? ta paw mia xara me tn fusn, tous fusikous vomous kai=
sto
gumvasio nmouva kalos kai stn fusikn. Fusika perimevw evagwviws va
gvwristoume va sou dei3w ta kaln mou....
>dhmiourghse kat'eikona kai ka8'omoiwsin ths mpoukalas tou
>mpooulingk.
Ntarligk sou e3ngnsa oti auto eivai to de3i mou arxidi :-))) To pavw kefa=
li
plastnke ka0'eikova kai kat' omoiwsn tou Ermn tou Pra3iteln. :-))) Peste =
kati re,
dusfnmouv tnv omorfia mou!!!!!
> Egw metaferw thn perigrafh sou, opws thn exw akousei apo
>sunlistobious...(mh se ekplhsei to gegonos, edw mesa , opws 3ereis
>apo PRWTO xeri, h koinwnikh kritikh paei sunnefo)
Mnv akous tis sukofavties kai tis kakies xrusn mou. Kapoios (a) znleuei =
kai mas
0elei xwrista. (kai mou tolege re evas kollntos oti oi fwtografies me pax=
aivouv
:-))) Twra poios akouei to xasapn pali va mou poulaei figoura gia tn korm=
ara
tou :-((
>> Eidika oi 4augoustiavoi... 0a sou kavoviza demonstration alla ws avefe=
ra,
>> 3emeivame apo sabourogamndes.
>8es na peis oti apo thn pollh idioxrhsia, sou epese kai thn
0elw va pw auto akribws pou eipa vtarligk... Ntou giou spnk gkrnk??? :-))
>psaxneis...gnwsto to fainomeno...
to movo pou epese kai yaxvw autn tnv epoxn eivai kati times gamnmevwv =
metoxwv sta Asian markets vtarlivgk... (gama ta Lndaki, avebnke kai n Ste=
rliva
mpnke n Taulavdn kai n Korea se krisn... brnka epoxn va riskarw....
Mavwlaknnnnnn, esu pws pas re, sumpasxeis ;-) ???
>> mnpws dev eisai aplo koureli alla polupatsaboura????? ;-)
>> Giati, se gamnse kai yofnse??
>> Ktnvobasies egw??? Ma dev sa gamnsa pote!!!
>prepei, epitelous, na apofasiseis:
>eimai kota, skula (htis Bitch), patsaboura, ti telos pantwn?
Ola ta parapavw vtarlivgk, stis swstes avalogies kai mege0os...
>kai afou apofasiseis, pes mas giati tetoio menos me tis gunaikes
Egw mevos me guvaikes??? poies guvaikes??? Evvoeis... eseva???
Mpouxaxaxa!
>kai olh sou h gluka afierwnetai sto anndriko fullo????
epi telous avakaluyes kai su tn gluka mou! Na ta blepouv oi kakoi (es) =
pou
sou leve pws eimai kovtoxovtros vtarlivgk. (Isa mwrn xamoura, n gluka mou=
afierw0nke stis guvaikes tns av0rwpotntas apo tov idio tov arxaggelo pou =
plnrofornse tn mavva mou oti eperwto va me gevvnsei!! )
>> to arxifasistaki
>to arxidaki,9es na eipeis
0elw va eipw auto pou eipa vtarlivgk... (Ti malakia re va mas les ti...0e=
lame va
poume!!! :-)))
Lhda
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
ug re Lndaki s'exw dei mexri twra se duo fwtografies (n mia stnv Amerikn =
kai n
alln sto spiti tns Xristivas ta Xristougevva). Stnv mev prwtn mou favnkes=
aplws
stn katw klimaka tns metriotntas... Stnv deutern omws gama ta! Sketn mesn=
avatoln, arabofatsa :-)). Dev bgazw omws sumperasmata, 3ereis poso dikaio=
i
eimaste emeis oi fasistes. Oi fwtografies suxva adikouv... Ama dev se dw =
stn
pasarella me magiw kai lame takouvi dev 0a biastw va ekdwsw oristiko
porisma... :-)))
Emmanuel Skoufos
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Christos Papadas wrote:
> to movo pou epese kai yaxvw autn tnv epoxn eivai kati times gamnmevwv
> metoxwv sta Asian markets vtarlivgk... (gama ta Lndaki, avebnke kai n Sterliva
> mpnke n Taulavdn kai n Korea se krisn... brnka epoxn va riskarw....
> Mavwlaknnnnnn, esu pws pas re, sumpasxeis ;-) ???
Otan egw sou ta 'lega esu den m' akouges giati eixes ta autia sou
boulwmena me ta glukologa ths Albanidas, Xristakh :-) (.h. htan ta melia?)
(kai fusika den sumpasxw, afou to mono Asian Market pou 3erw einai auto
sthn gwnia)
> epi telous avakaluyes kai su tn gluka mou! Na ta blepouv oi kakoi (es) pou
> sou leve pws eimai kovtoxovtros vtarlivgk. (Isa mwrn xamoura, n gluka mou
> afierw0nke stis guvaikes tns av0rwpotntas apo tov idio tov arxaggelo pou
> plnrofornse tn mavva mou oti eperwto va me gevvnsei!! )
Kai g*mw tis afierwseis...
Mhn tous akous tous sukofantes Xrhstakh den eisai kontoxontros...
Osoi se exoun dei 3eroume oti eisai mono ligoulaaaaaaaaaaaki euswmos (me
epiase to Politically correct mou >;-> )
Oso gia thn gluka sou, ta melia trexoun apo ta mpatzakia sou ;-)
> Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
Manwlhs
se oi-diakopes-sto-nhsaki-to-erhmiko-me-thn-kalh-parea-ti-ginan? mode
Christos Papadas
Stazei apovia kai kakia o Mavwlakns...(pou 0a pas re, ola dw
plerwvovtai!!!)
>On Fri, 16 May 1997, Christos Papadas wrote:
>> to movo pou epese kai yaxvw autn tnv epoxn eivai kati times
gamnmevwv
>> metoxwv sta Asian markets vtarlivgk... (gama ta Lndaki, avebnke kai n
>>Sterliva
>> mpnke n Taulavdn kai n Korea se krisn... brnka epoxn va riskarw....
> >Mavwlaknnnnnn, esu pws pas re, sumpasxeis ;-) ???
>Otan egw sou ta 'lega esu den m' akouges giati eixes ta autia sou
>boulwmena me ta glukologa ths Albanidas, Xristakh :-) (.h. htan ta
melia?)
>(kai fusika den sumpasxw, afou to mono Asian Market pou 3erw einai
auto
>sthn gwnia)
Em, paei kairos pou ta pame Mavwlakn, 0umomouva oti eixes ki esu eva
meros tou portfolio se pio riskadorika apo to suvn0es kai upe0esa oti kati
0axe va kavei me Asia kai auto.... Alla evvoia sou...Ligo upomovn kai 0a
0riambeusw ki' ekei!!! :-))) Mpora eivai 0a perasei, pavta uparxei volatility
ekei sta mern twv kitrivwv. Mias kai dev exw braxuxrovio orizovta kai
ka0ws
dia0etw gero stomaxi apofasisa ... to sit it out and see what happens kai
ekei...
>> epi telous avakaluyes kai su tn gluka mou! Na ta blepouv oi kakoi (es)
pou
>> sou leve pws eimai kovtoxovtros vtarlivgk. (Isa mwrn xamoura, n gluka
mou
>> afierw0nke stis guvaikes tns av0rwpotntas apo tov idio tov arxaggelo
pou
>> plnrofornse tn mavva mou oti eperwto va me gevvnsei!! )
>Kai g*mw tis afierwseis...
>Mhn tous akous tous sukofantes Xrhstakh den eisai kontoxontros...
>Osoi se exoun dei 3eroume oti eisai mono ligoulaaaaaaaaaaaki
euswmos
Aaaaaa! Na o sukofavtns!!! Pou me suvavtnses re kai dev to pnra
prefa???
Fobasai mnv kerdisw egw to Lndaki kai tori3es stov a0emito
avtagwvismo Mavwlakn??? Ntropn, aisxos, atimia re!!!! :-)))
Sto para trixa mou 3efuges sto UofM (ka0oti pio geros ekaves graduation
vwritera Mavwlakn... ;-)).
Ti 0elete re sukofavtes, o,ti parapavww kila ebala priv duo xrovia ta
exasa re kake :-))) kai xavw ki' allo...Liwvw... 83 kilakia eivai to ernmo
kormaki mou kai eimai kai...barukokkalo!! ( Lndaki se parakalw labe to
kai auto up'oyiv sou)
Ti 0elete re va givw katoxikn fwtografia?? Dev uparxei sumpovoia se auto
to kosmo pleov; Kai ektos apo xovtro me bgalate kai kovtouln e??? Ftou
sas re znliarndes... Alla evvoia sas kai 0a me dei kapote to Lndaki kai n
aln0eia 0a lamyei!!!!!!
>(me
>epiase to Politically correct mou >;-> )
>Oso gia thn gluka sou, ta melia trexoun apo ta mpatzakia sou ;-)
Giati re, dev eimai glukoulns?? Dev exw tupo??? Dev empvew
truferotnta? :-))))
>> Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
>Manwlhs
>se oi-diakopes-sto-nhsaki-to-erhmiko-me-thn-kalh-parea-ti-ginan?
mode
Ola ev kairw Mavwlakn! Hmouva busy me tis listes twv mello0avatwv
prosfata kai argnsa va sou kleisw dwmatio...
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
ug pws tolege re kai o Ktevas?? "Eimai wraios, gevvaios, pointns,
kallitexvns, klp klp" :-))) Exw kai to kolo pisw Lnda!!!
Emmanuel Skoufos
On Sat, 17 May 1997, Christos Papadas wrote:
> Stazei apovia kai kakia o Mavwlakns...(pou 0a pas re, ola dw
> plerwvovtai!!!)
Auto perimenw Xrhstakh, thn plhrwmh ;-)
> Em, paei kairos pou ta pame Mavwlakn, 0umomouva oti eixes ki esu eva
> meros tou portfolio se pio riskadorika apo to suvn0es kai upe0esa oti kati
> 0axe va kavei me Asia kai auto.... Alla evvoia sou...Ligo upomovn kai 0a
> 0riambeusw ki' ekei!!! :-)))
Xrhstakh, 0riambeuth, skeutesai na metanasteuseis kata Ta.u.landh meria?
Den sou ka0etai h Albanida? (To probleya, alla esu den me akouges ;-) )
> Mpora eivai 0a perasei, pavta uparxei volatility
> ekei sta mern twv kitrivwv. Mias kai dev exw braxuxrovio orizovta kai
> ka0ws
> dia0etw gero stomaxi apofasisa ... to sit it out and see what happens kai
> ekei...
To "gero" ti to h0eles? ;-)
>
>
> >> epi telous avakaluyes kai su tn gluka mou! Na ta blepouv oi kakoi (es)
> pou
> >> sou leve pws eimai kovtoxovtros vtarlivgk. (Isa mwrn xamoura, n gluka
> mou
> >> afierw0nke stis guvaikes tns av0rwpotntas apo tov idio tov arxaggelo
> pou
> >> plnrofornse tn mavva mou oti eperwto va me gevvnsei!! )
>
> >Kai g*mw tis afierwseis...
> >Mhn tous akous tous sukofantes Xrhstakh den eisai kontoxontros...
> >Osoi se exoun dei 3eroume oti eisai mono ligoulaaaaaaaaaaaki
> euswmos
>
> Aaaaaa! Na o sukofavtns!!! Pou me suvavtnses re kai dev to pnra
> prefa???
Kala esu den 0umasai, egw omws 0umamai ekeinh thn mia kai monadikh fora
pou pathsa sthn sugkentrwsh tou ELLHNIKOU sullogou otan hsoun hgeths :->
> Sto para trixa mou 3efuges sto UofM (ka0oti pio geros ekaves graduation
> vwritera Mavwlakn... ;-)).
Mpa den htan akribws sto para trixa ;-)
Eides pou exoun kai ta gerateia ta kala tous, orismenes fores Xrhstakh?
> Ti 0elete re sukofavtes, o,ti parapavww kila ebala priv duo xrovia ta
> exasa re kake :-)))
Sukofantes? Re, les na 'xei dikio kai o Koutalos (gia mia fora sthn zwh
tou :-) ) kai na eisai kai suko? :-)
Ligo kounistoulhs hsoun, bebaia, alla tou poluedwsa shmasia...
> kai xavw ki' allo...Liwvw... 83 kilakia eivai to ernmo
> kormaki mou kai eimai kai...barukokkalo!!
Dhladh ta alla 30 pou phgan, bolta me thn bespa sta Asian Markets? ;-)
Barukokkalo den shmainei Xontrokefalo, Xrhstakh...
> Ti 0elete re va givw katoxikn fwtografia?? Dev uparxei sumpovoia se auto
> to kosmo pleov; Kai ektos apo xovtro me bgalate kai kovtouln e???
Auto einai yema, Xrhstakh, astous na lene, eisai prwto mpo.i., prepei na
skuyeis gia na peraseis katw apo tis portes (kai to "mpo.i." sou brisketai
se megalh anaptu3h teleutaia, ap' oti mou lene:-) )
> >(me
> >epiase to Politically correct mou >;-> )
> >Oso gia thn gluka sou, ta melia trexoun apo ta mpatzakia sou ;-)
>
> Giati re, dev eimai glukoulns?? Dev exw tupo??? Dev empvew
> truferotnta? :-))))
Empneeis, Xrhstakh, empneeis :-)
(den 0a elega "truferothta", alla...)
> >se oi-diakopes-sto-nhsaki-to-erhmiko-me-thn-kalh-parea-ti-ginan?
> mode
>
> Ola ev kairw Mavwlakn! Hmouva busy me tis listes twv mello0avatwv
> prosfata kai argnsa va sou kleisw dwmatio...
Poies listes mello0anatwn?
H monh lista pou eisai busy einai auth sthn opoian se phran xampari kai
den se bazoun...
Ante to dwmatio kai grhgora...Kalokairiase :-)
>
> Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
> ug pws tolege re kai o Ktevas?? "Eimai wraios, gevvaios, pointns,
> kallitexvns, klp klp" :-)))
kai metriofrenos...
Manwlhs
se krouaziera-0a-se-paw-giati-se-noizomai-kai-s'agapaw mode
-------
Ki an h elpida to mellon sunthrei
H mhnmh trefei to paron
To parel0on mas dikaiwnontas
Giati oti uphr3e mia fora
Den ginetai na payei na exei upar3ei
Aderfoi Katsimixa (Palia Kalokairia)
Lida Anestidou
On 16 May 97 at 12:34, Christos Papadas wrote:
Fusika perimevw evagwviws va
> gvwristoume va sou dei3w ta kaln mou....
>
> ug re Lndaki s'exw dei mexri twra se duo fwtografies (n mia stnv Amerikn kai n
> alln sto spiti tns Xristivas ta Xristougevva). Stnv mev prwtn mou favnkes
aplws
> stn katw klimaka tns metriotntas... Stnv deutern omws gama ta! Sketn mesn
> avatoln, arabofatsa :-)). Dev bgazw omws sumperasmata, 3ereis poso dikaioi
> eimaste emeis oi fasistes. Oi fwtografies suxva adikouv... Ama dev se dw stn
> pasarella me magiw kai lame takouvi dev 0a biastw va ekdwsw oristiko
> porisma... :-)))
efoson eimai tetoio mauro xali, ti 8es na me gnwriseis?
ase twra, pou na mplekeis esu me thn katw klimaka ths metriothtas..
BTW,
>
>
> to movo pou epese kai yaxvw autn tnv epoxn eivai kati times
> gamnmevwv metoxwv sta Asian markets vtarlivgk... (gama ta Lndaki,
> avebnke kai n Sterliva mpnke n Taulavdn kai n Korea se krisn...
> brnka epoxn va riskarw.... Mavwlaknnnnnn, esu pws pas re,
> sumpasxeis ;-) ???
>
ama esu eisai malakas kai kaneis panhli8ies ependuseis, kala kaneis
kai xaneis ta lefta sou..
o manwlhs, ws gnwstos ma8ousalas kai fobismenos, ta poulhse (koinws
liquidated) kai ta ebale leei se cd..
alla, etsi kai alliws, xamw koitouses panta, e, twra aplws psaxneis
kai kanena fragko..
well, mporei na sou dwsw kammia metoxh, apo autes pou DEN epesan,
na bgaleis kanena koritsi gia kanena kafe, mpas kai papsei to
termatiko mas na lerwnetai sunexws
to arxidiabolaki >:->
Christos Papadas
Lndara welcome back! (kurie Nikolaou the red light please...)
>Afou eimai tetoio mauro xali, ti 8es na me gnwriseis?
Gia va sou kavw figoura me tnv omorfia mou mwrn gamiola!!
>ase twra, pou na mplekeis esu me thn katw klimaka ths metriothtas
Egw dev mplekw me tipota! Esu va dw mwrn tsimpoukla pws 0a 3emple3eis ota=
v se
bonbardisw me ta gontrovia... :-)))
>ama esu eisai malakas kai kaneis panhli8ies ependuseis
Ntoooooiiiiiiv!! "Pavnli0ia" epevdusn ta emerging markets???? A re Lndaki=
, oi poutaves
pouxoume stn Koriv0ia eivai oles saivia. Esu me tn sabourogamikn pelateia=
pou sto diaolo
bgnkes toso nli0ia?
> kala kaneis kai xaneis ta lefta sou..
Poios exase lefta mwrn patsoura? :-))) Xavei o Xrnstaras? ;-) (Dev stopav=
e Ntarlivgk oti
ta proswriva skampavebasmata sta emerging markets eivai pio agria kai apo=
to diko sou
poutsokabalikeuma)
>o manwlhs, ws gnwstos ma8ousalas kai fobismenos, ta poulhse (koinws
>liquidated) kai ta ebale leei se cd..
Aaaa! O Mavwlakns dev exei tnv dikia mou riskadorikn epevdutikn fusn :-))=
Olo me kati blue
chips tn bgazei kai do3a vaxei to merisma!!! Autos dev mporei va blepei =
tn metoxn tou va
peftei 45% ataraxos, kai va bgazei 260% kerdos sto telos tou xrovou.... =
Tetoies peripeteies
kai volatility movo o Xrnstaras sou egguatai vtarlivgk ;-) Stick around, =
0a sou prosferw
excitement, xrnmatistnrio kai adrevalivn :-)))
>alla, etsi kai alliws, xamw koitouses panta, e, twra aplws psaxneis
>kai kanena fragko..
Nai vai, pou va sta lew... yaxvw sta skoupidia va brw kava yixoulo, kammi=
a petamevn kovserba
kai tipota omologa ETBA :-)))
>well, mporei na sou dwsw kammia metoxh, apo autes pou DEN epesan,
Sou divouve kai proika?? :-)) Oxi, ama eivai va to 3avaskeftw...(0elw omw=
s kai keivo to
istoriko vtoulapi me to radio) :-)))
>n bgaleis kanena koritsi gia kanena kafe, mpas kai papsei to
Dev eipame 0a bgalw eseva mwrn kabla??? Na mou tnv kopavnseis pas ;-)
>termatiko mas na lerwnetai sunexws
Giati me les brwmiko pali?? Egw vomiza oti euxaristiosouva tis agkalitses=
mas...
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
>to arxidiabolaki >:->
Christos Papadas
>monadikh fora
>pou pathsa sthn sugkentrwsh tou ELLHNIKOU sullogou otan hsoun
>hgeths :->
Kala re Mavwlakn, otav bgnka proedros tou Ellnvikou sullogou esu eixes
fugei apo to UofM xrovia!! O Sakns pou ntave sto AgEcon kai se
apoxairetnse moulege gia seva, otav nmouva akoma sto master!!!
Gia ri3e ligo fws stnv upo0esn giati upoyiazomai oti plastografeis
marturies kata tns gonteias mou...
Oso kai va laspologeis geroMavwlakn n aln0eia 0a lamyei :-)) Lndaki
leei yemmata!!!!!!! :-))) Sto uposxomai, eimai wraios (kai pointns)...
(eutuxws pou brnkes guvaika kai pavtreutnkes Mavwlakn giati opws
eisai twra xouftalo, oute gria suvta3iouxa vosokoma dev 0a sou
briskame... eutuxws sou lew...) :-)))
>> Ola ev kairw Mavwlakn! Hmouva busy me tis listes twv
>>mello0avatwv
> >prosfata kai argnsa va sou kleisw dwmatio...
>Poies listes mello0anatwn?
>H monh lista pou eisai busy einai auth sthn opoian se phran xampari
>kai
>den se bazoun...
Movo emeva??? :-)))
Kala autn n lista Kupros eivai megaln fasn. Opoiov dialegouv bazouv,
opoiov goustarouv bgazouv (oi owners, alla pisw tous krubovtai kai
alloi).
Egw omws tn dnmokratikotnta tou kuriou Nikolaou dev 0a payw pote
va tn diafnmizw... :-)))
Lew pavtws va dwsw eisagwgikes e3etaseis mpas kai me balouv...
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
Emmanuel Skoufos
On Tue, 20 May 1997, Christos Papadas wrote:
> >monadikh fora
> >pou pathsa sthn sugkentrwsh tou ELLHNIKOU sullogou otan hsoun
> >hgeths :->
>
> Kala re Mavwlakn, otav bgnka proedros tou Ellnvikou sullogou esu eixes
> fugei apo to UofM xrovia!! O Sakns pou ntave sto AgEcon kai se
> apoxairetnse moulege gia seva, otav nmouva akoma sto master!!!
> Gia ri3e ligo fws stnv upo0esn giati upoyiazomai oti plastografeis
> marturies kata tns gonteias mou...
Ti fws na ri3w, Xrhstakh, fwtish mou fainetai oti sou xreiazetai kai
authn den mporw na sou thn dwsw...
>
> Oso kai va laspologeis geroMavwlakn n aln0eia 0a lamyei :-))
Mpas kai ekanes kai falakra, gia polles lamyeis akouw ;-)
(pantws 0a sou phgaine, mpagasa :-)))) )
> Lndaki
> leei yemmata!!!!!!! :-))) Sto uposxomai, eimai wraios (kai pointns)...
Nai lew yemmata:
einai wraios kai poihtikotatos kai e3uponotatos kai romantikotatos kai
gohteutikotatos kai me leptotatous tropous kai exei kai teleia ais0hsh tou
humor (den tou fainetai?)
(Ftou na mhn se baskanw, Xrhstakh, kai den 3ereis kai kolumpi...)
> (eutuxws pou brnkes guvaika kai pavtreutnkes Mavwlakn giati opws
> eisai twra xouftalo, oute gria suvta3iouxa vosokoma dev 0a sou
> briskame... eutuxws sou lew...) :-)))
Xouftalo? Nai, ki ap' auto :-)
Wste thn briskeis me gries sunta3iouxes (sabourog*mes, e3 orismou ;-) )
nosokomes, Xrhstakh?
(kala den lew bitsia einai auta - gia ta twn gss nosokwmwn milaw >;->)
> Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
>
Manwlhs
ps. Xrhstakh, 3ana3efullise to biblio twn Econ 101...Ta "emerging" markets
den lene oute me sfaires. An den empisteuesai na agoraseis paper apo
kapoian xwra ("entoga grammatia dhmosiou") kai empisteuesai na
"ependuseis" se etairies pou basizontai s' auta ta daneia, kalutera na
pareis kanena laxeio .h. na perimeneis thn fwtish .h. thn "epanastash" (to
nhsaki mou!!!!!) .h. ton Psilo...
Christos Papadas
Leei o Mavwlakns::
>Xrhstakh, 3ana3efullise to biblio twn Econ 101...Ta "emerging"
>markets
>den lene oute me sfaires. An den empisteuesai na agoraseis paper
>apo
>kapoian xwra ("entoga grammatia dhmosiou") kai empisteuesai na
>"ependuseis" se etairies pou basizontai s' auta ta daneia, kalutera na
>pareis kanena laxeio
Nomizw kaveis megales gkeles Mavwlakn. Priv er0w sta polu
megallitera returns pou eixav ta emerging markets ola ta prongoumeva
xrovia kai katw apo poies proupo0eseis prepei va epevduoume ekei,
0elw va sta0w ligo stnv faivomevika swstn logikn sou gia daveistes kai
daveizomevous...
To -upoti0emevo (giati kai auto amfisbnteitai)- xali evos dnmosiou
tomea s'eva emerging market dev leei suxva polla gia tnv daveizomevn
epixeirnsn. Tnv teleutaia dekaetia eidame polu megalous ru0mous
oikovomikns avaptu3ns sta emerging markets tns Asias, polu pio
evtupwsiakous apo autous twv wrimwv agorwv. Oles oi logikes
probleyeis leve to idio gia to ameso mellov. Av loipov sta emerging
markets oi epixeirnseis dev eivai a3iopistes epevdutikes eukairies, giati
opws vomizeis exouv problnma oi daveistes tous, mporeis va mou peis
apo pou proerxetai o evtupwsiakos ru0mos avaptu3ns??? Dev eivai
n avodos sta kerdn MONO, kai tns a3ias kefalaiwv twv epixeirnsewv
pou egguwvtai kati tetoio??? Giati mnv mou peis oti eva 8-10% avodos
tou GDP stn Malaisia mporei va bgei apo...dnmosies dapaves!!!
E3' orismou, ta parapavw snmaivouv polu megallitero capital growth sta
xrnmatistnria twv agorwv autwv. Opws kai suvebn!!!
(Kai malista av argisei kapws auto va sumbei, suvn0ws sou divei mia
akoma eukaria va agorseis ftnva). Bebaia kales kai kakes epixeirnseis,
kales kai kakes metoxes uparxouv toso sta emerging oso kai omws kai
sta mature markets. Milaw omws gia gevikes taseis opws katalabaiveis.
Etsi kai alliws logw apostasns kai 0esmikwv empodiwv movo mesw
etaireiwv xartofulakiwv n amoibaiwv pas se autes tis agores...
Omws kaveis kai allou la0os... Poios basistnke se kratika daveia kai
malista problnmatikwv trapezwv se autnv tnv agora?? Av avferesai stn
ufesn tns Iapwvias, 0a to katalabaiva ws eva ba0mo movo, mias kai to
pistwtiko sustnma pou mpnke se krisn dev eivai apokleistika kratiko.
Omws egw dev kateta3a tnv Iapwvia se emerging markets. Perase n
dekaetia tou 60, prokeitai gia eva apo ta pio mature markets tou kosmou
allo av exei pio megalo volatility apo to City tou Lovdivou n tn Wall
Street. H Taulavdn kai n Korea pou isws va exeis sto mualo sou me
avnsuxouv kai meva snmera, alla af'evos eivai trello va milame gia...
paratetamevn krisn, af' eterou olo kai pio wrimes agores givovtai.
Allwste, ola ta xartofulakia pou 3erw egw sto UK kai epevduouv NA Asia
plnv Iapwvias kai Australias exouv 1-5% exposure to polu stis duo autes
xwres.
Epi tn eukairia va sou pw oti oxi movo exouv polu kallitero record se
performance ta emerging markets opws 3ereis, alla evtupwsiaka ntav
ta apotelesmata se fimancial sectors, opote dev blepw pou blepeis
krisn pistwtwv... Akoma de kai stnv Iapwvia pou katrakulise ta teleutaia
xrovia logw tetoias krisns akribws,
(alla ndn mpaivei sto telos -gia meva- tns krisns tou xrnmatistnriou),
av eixes paei se alla blue chips ektos apo financials pali tn glutwves stn
krisn!!!
Gia osous evdiaferovtai, va pw bebaia oti swsta blepouv oi avalutes kai
megallitera riska stis agores autes. Yparxei n politikn abebaiotnta, n
mikrotern avaptu3n xrnmatistnriakwv kai pistwtikwv 0esmwv pou omws
givetai olo kai pio asnmavto problnma, kai to ousiwdes: Oi pio polles
epixeirnseis dev eivai n dev leitourgouv upo suv0nkes opws ta
blue chips se mature markets.
Nai, auto eivai pio megalo risko (opws akribws omws
sumbaivei kai me MME kai sta mature markets!!) Omws
akribws logw grngorns avaptu3ns kai mikroterou arxika mege0ous,
exoume ta pio megala prospects of growth akribws ekei, sta emerging
markets.
Pairveis pio megalo risko gia pio megaln apodosn, n gvwstn istoria. Me
dedomevn omws tnv pio grngorn avaptu3n sta emerging markets,
eivai MONO 0ema xrovou va kaveis pio polla kerdn ekei av gia va
apofugeis ta asxnma xartia kaveis eva aplo diversification, pou sxedov
oloi oi 3evoi epevdutes kavouv.
Eivai logikwtato va exeis suvepws eva meros tou portfolio se emerging
markets pou exouv prooptikes pio grngorns avaptu3ns (oxi pavtou
suvepws, evvoeitai). Akoma kai oi pio suvtnrntikoi financial advisers
sou leve snmera av exeis pavw apo eva logiko poso, va baleis ekei
apo 5-15%, avaloga me to ti au3nmevo risko avtexeis mias kai
exouv mazi me apodosn kai risko kai pio apotoma skampavebasmata.
(Edw mexri kai pension funds exouv paei ekei...)
Twra, egw protimw 35% se emerging markets kai ta alla se wrima
xrnmatistnria alla...eipame: Egw dev exw oikogeveiakes upoxrewseis,
Mavwlakn ;-))) kai eimai kai peripeteiwdns fusn :-)))
Bebaia uparxei kai eva allo risko sta emerging markets av epevdueeis
ekei apo allou:
Oi suvallagmatikes isotimies, pou mesopro0esma egw oute autes
fobamai...
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
ug Re Mavwlakn, to allo katebato peri ubrewv kai epixeirnamatwv ti
to0eles re?? De 0umamai va apavtaga se epixeirnmata sto Lndaki, se
brisies kai eirwvies apavtaga kai aplws tnv plnrofornsa ti poutava kai
nli0ia tnv 0ewrw... Hremnse kai grafe gia xrnmatistnria giati
ftiaxtnka me tn suzntnsn autn... :-))
Emmanuel Skoufos
On Tue, 20 May 1997, Christos Papadas wrote:
> To -upoti0emevo (giati kai auto amfisbnteitai)- xali evos dnmosiou
> tomea s'eva emerging market dev leei suxva polla gia tnv daveizomevn
> epixeirnsn.
> Av loipov sta emerging
> markets oi epixeirnseis dev eivai a3iopistes epevdutikes eukairies, giati
> opws vomizeis exouv problnma oi daveistes tous, mporeis va mou peis
> apo pou proerxetai o evtupwsiakos ru0mos avaptu3ns??? Dev eivai
> n avodos sta kerdn MONO, kai tns a3ias kefalaiwv twv epixeirnsewv
> pou egguwvtai kati tetoio??? Giati mnv mou peis oti eva 8-10% avodos
> tou GDP stn Malaisia mporei va bgei apo...dnmosies dapaves!!!
Tsouk
1. H anodos tou GDP sthn Malaisia (idiaitera kai se alles asiatikes xwres
opws kai h Sigkapourh) erxetai apo thn parousia polue0nikwn etairiwn stis
xwres autes oi opoies men anebazoun to GDP alla den einai sto
xrhsmatisthrio twn xwrwn autwn...
2. Auto pou eipa gia to metro state bonds den exei kuria na kanei me ta
xreh alla me thn isotimia tou nomismatos...fusika ena kerdos 40% sto
xrhmatisthrio an h isodunamia me to nomisma pou to agorases pesei 40% den
einai kerdos...
3. Oi perissoteres etairies pou kerdizoun apo thn anaptu3h mias xwras
einai etairies "upodomhs" (poses tetoies uparxoun sta xrhmatisthria twn
"emerging markets")
4. Oi perissoteres etairies sta xrhmatisthria twn emerging marketes einai
kuklikes katanallwtikwn ulikwn (oi opoies einai kuklikes akoma kai stis
megales agores kai stis mikres h aktina tou kuklou steneuei perissotero
gia eunohtous -pisteuw - logous) .h. trapezikes (no comment)
>
> E3' orismou, ta parapavw snmaivouv polu megallitero capital growth sta
> xrnmatistnria twv agorwv autwv. Opws kai suvebn!!!
Koita parapanw gia to "e3' orismou" :-)
> Epi tn eukairia va sou pw oti oxi movo exouv polu kallitero record se
> performance ta emerging markets opws 3ereis, alla evtupwsiaka ntav
> ta apotelesmata se fimancial sectors, opote dev blepw pou blepeis
> krisn pistwtwv...
Den blepw krish pistwtwn:-)
Blepw overvalued sklhra nomismata :-)
> Pairveis pio megalo risko gia pio megaln apodosn, n gvwstn istoria. Me
> dedomevn omws tnv pio grngorn avaptu3n sta emerging markets,
> eivai MONO 0ema xrovou va kaveis pio polla kerdn ekei av gia va
> apofugeis ta asxnma xartia kaveis eva aplo diversification, pou sxedov
> oloi oi 3evoi epevdutes kavouv.
:-)
> Twra, egw protimw 35% se emerging markets kai ta alla se wrima
> xrnmatistnria alla...eipame: Egw dev exw oikogeveiakes upoxrewseis,
> Mavwlakn ;-))) kai eimai kai peripeteiwdns fusn :-)))
Egw alliws akousa gia oikogeneiakes upoxrewsei, Xrhstakh ;-)
btw 3erw kana-duo merh pou poulane swamp land sth Florida, endiaferesai
gia kammia enendush se real estate? ;-)
>
> Bebaia uparxei kai eva allo risko sta emerging markets av epevdueeis
> ekei apo allou:
> Oi suvallagmatikes isotimies, pou mesopro0esma egw oute autes
> fobamai...
Koimhsou hsuxos ;-)
>
> Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
>
> ug Re Mavwlakn, to allo katebato peri ubrewv kai epixeirnamatwv ti
> to0eles re?? De 0umamai va apavtaga se epixeirnmata sto Lndaki, se
> brisies kai eirwvies apavtaga kai aplws tnv plnrofornsa ti poutava kai
> nli0ia tnv 0ewrw...
Egw alliws ta 0umamai ta pragmata (kai den apanthses mono sthn Lhda
etsi an den kanw la0os...)
> Hremnse kai grafe gia xrnmatistnria giati ftiaxtnka me tn suzntnsn
> autn... :-))
Egw hremos eimai :-)
Esu "ftiaxnesai"...
Manwlhs
Christos Papadas
Leei o Mavwlakn:
>On Tue, 20 May 1997, Christos Papadas wrote:
>> To -upoti0emevo (giati kai auto amfisbnteitai)- xali evos dnmosiou
>> tomea s'eva emerging market dev leei suxva polla gia tnv
>>daveizomevn
>> epixeirnsn.
> >Av loipov sta emerging
>> markets oi epixeirnseis dev eivai a3iopistes epevdutikes eukairies,
>>giati
>> opws vomizeis exouv problnma oi daveistes tous, mporeis va mou
>>peis
>> apo pou proerxetai o evtupwsiakos ru0mos avaptu3ns??? Dev eivai
>> n avodos sta kerdn MONO, kai tns a3ias kefalaiwv twv epixeirnsewv
>> pou egguwvtai kati tetoio??? Giati mnv mou peis oti eva 8-10%
>>avodos
>> tou GDP stn Malaisia mporei va bgei apo...dnmosies dapaves!!!
>Tsouk
>1. H anodos tou GDP sthn Malaisia (idiaitera kai se alles asiatikes
>xwres
>opws kai h Sigkapourh) erxetai apo thn parousia polue0nikwn etairiwn
>stis
>xwres autes oi opoies men anebazoun to GDP alla den einai sto
>xrhsmatisthrio twn xwrwn autwn...
Auto pou les, stnv kallitern periptwsn eivai uperbolikn uperaplousteusn
kai stnv xeirotern megalo la0os. Mallov sugxeeis tnv upar3n polue0vikwv
me tnv eisron 3evwv kefalaiwv pou fusika dev eivai to idio pragma. Para
tnv snmasia pou do0nke se 3eves epeixeirnseis se export- led growth
xwres (kai suvepws kai tnv proselkusn polue0vikwv), n a3ia paragwgns
twv polue0vikwv snmera apotelei eva aplws mikro pososto tou GDP kai
to idio teivei va givei kai me tis 3eves epevduseis gevikotera. Dev 0a
mporouse allwste va givei kai diaforetika, auto leei n koivn
logikn: Para tnv w0nsn twv kapoiwv polue0vikwv sta arxika eidika stadia
avaptu3ns, mesopro0esma kai makroxrovia eva toso megalo pososto
avaptu3ns dev mporei va suvexistei xwris tovwsn egxwrias paragwgns
tnv opoia allwste n idia n avaptu3n evisxuei! Eilikriva eivai n prwtn fora
pou akouw tetoio isxurismo gia tov rolo twv polue0vikwv.
Yparxei omws kai mia alln pragmatikotnta pou se diayeudei. Akoma kai
sta mature markets, se periodous -megalns malista- avaptu3ns, oi
deiktes timwv metoxwv MME exouv kallitero performance apo ta blue
chips. Yparxouv kai kapoies e3aireseis alla eivai braxubia faivomeva.
(Bebaia oi MME eivai kai pio riskadorikes oxi giati exouv pio polles
pi0avotntes va pave asxnma opws vomizei polus kosmos alla giati dev
exouv to finacial base va zouv pavw sta losses tous makroxrovia opws
ekave px n IBM). Aln0eia, pws e3ngeis to gegovos oti akoma kai me
suvallagmatikn asta0eia oi times metoxwv MME sta emerging markets
avebaivouv polu pio grngora apo tis times twv metoxwv polue0vikwv
sta mature markets opou les eivai listed?? Dev epibebaiwvouv kai ta
statistika stoixeia tous isxurismous mou n kavw la0os ;-).
>2. Auto pou eipa gia to metro state bonds den exei kuria na kanei me
>ta
>xreh alla me thn isotimia tou nomismatos...fusika ena kerdos 40% sto
>xrhmatisthrio an h isodunamia me to nomisma pou to agorases pesei
>40% den
>einai kerdos...
Polu swsta. Gi'auto kai ta losses pou pnrame apo ta emerging markets
sto City fetos exouv va kavouv ws eva megalo ba0mo me tnv
isxuropoinsn tns sterlivas. Evw apo tis epevduseis allou xartofulakiou
se blue chips tou UK, US kai Eurwpns, ekava meggalitera kerdn se
sterlives, me mikroterous deiktes capital growth!! (akoma kai av
afairesw kerdn apo merismata). Alla tnv apoyn mou gia to 0ema twv
suvallagmatikwv isotimiwv tn divw parakatw...
>3. Oi perissoteres etairies pou kerdizoun apo thn anaptu3h mias
>xwras
>einai etairies "upodomhs" (poses tetoies uparxoun sta xrhmatisthria
>twn
>"emerging markets")
Para polles. Eidika gia tnv Malaisia pou avaferame ws paradeigma
problepetai oti ws to 2000 oi eisngmeves etaireies sto xrnmatistnrio tns
Kuala Lampur 0a 3eperasouv tis 1000! 0a sou suvistousa omws va
mnv eisai toso apolutos gia to pios kerdizei (osov afora tov oikovomiko
tomea). Giati kerdn sumbaivouv pavtou, diaxeovtai, kai oi ekpln3eis
kuriarxouv. Des ta mexri protivos megaleia twv etaireiwv holdings,
property, kai finaciala gia paradeigma stn NA Asia.
>4. Oi perissoteres etairies sta xrhmatisthria twn emerging marketes
>einai
>kuklikes katanallwtikwn ulikwn (oi opoies einai kuklikes akoma kai stis
>megales agores kai stis mikres h aktina tou kuklou steneuei
>perissotero
>gia eunohtous -pisteuw - logous) .h. trapezikes (no comment)
Se periodous growth kai market expansion dev blepw giati dev prepei va
wfeln0ouv - opws kai wfeln0nkav kai oi "katavalwtikes"-, av kai opws
eipa kalo eivai sta emerging markets va kavei kaveis diversification. Kai
mias kai milas gia kuklikes etairies. Na sou pw kai kati allo malista poun
eivai arketa sxetiko:
Sto teleutaio gramma tou, o fund manager tou ligoterou
riskadorikou xartofulakiou pou avefera parapavw (gia Eurwpn kai
Amerikn), grafei oti evw ola pave mia xara twra, fobatai mnpws logw
xamnlou pln0wrismou kapoia blue chips pou exoume sto xartofulakio kai
divouv kalo divident kai malista exouv kalo divident growth, mpouve gia
eva diastnma se profits trap. 3ekiwvtas apo food processing klp,
milouse gia etaireies pou exeis sto mualo sou twv mature markets
omws fusika.... kai skeftetai leei akoma kai autos va to ri3ei twra ligo pio
polu se...capital growth... Kai milaw Mavwlakn gia eva xartofulakio pou
oi Financial Times tous eixav dwsei index of volatility movo 3.5!!!!( Pou
gia riskadorous sav kai meva auto snmaivei volatility mndev. Gia
periodo ligo pio megaln apo to immediate short run, auta eivai gia meva
asfaln sav trapezes :-))) (oxi kratikes bebaia.. :-))).
Alla re Mavwlakn, priv fugw apo auto to snmeio kai 0elw bebaia va
suvexisoume tn koubevta, 0elw va se rwtnsw:
Amfisbnteis oti -kai twv isotimiwv lambavomevwv up' oyiv- ta
xrnmatistnria tns NA Asias apedwsav pio polu apo ta mature markets
mesa se mia logikn xrovikn periodo px 5-10 xrovia?? Apo pou nr0e auto
to growth av oxi apo listed companies??? Bebaia kapote 0a payouv va
eivai emerging kai 0a givouv mature. Ev tw meta3u pavta 0a uparxei
volatility, etsi eivai to xrnmatistnrio, gi'auto kai dev pas ama eisai logikos
gia overnight profit alla gia megalliterns diarkeias epevdusn.
>Den blepw krish pistwtwn:-)
>Blepw overvalued sklhra nomismata :-)
Kai auto 0a perasei, prosfata nr0e allwste pali sto prosknvio...
Omologw oti se avti0esn me ta alla pou eipes,ws eva ba0mo
summerizomai autn
tnv avnsuxia sou. Povtarw aplws sto oti n katastasn 0a alla3ei stis
agores suvallagmatos (eidika gia dollario kai marko-mnv kutas ti givetai
me tn draxmn ws pros auta ta sklnra, eivai alln istoria) kai kuriws
povtarw sto oti telika 0a exw tetoio growth pou 0a uperkaluyei akoma kai
pi0avo loss logw isotimiwv. Pavtws, apln oikovomikn logikn mas odngei
sto sumperasma oti me kapoia stoixeiwdn dnmosiovomikn pei0arxia
(kai n Malaisia to edei3e prosfata), n avaptu3n dev mporei para va
sklnruvei
ta vomismata tns NA Asias. Mnpws dev eivai sklnrotera apo oti palia??
As mnv 3exvame oti ftaiei kai to giev gia tnv prosfatn sfaliara pou fagav
oi times tous...
> Twra, egw protimw 35% se emerging markets kai ta alla se wrima
> xrnmatistnria alla...eipame: Egw dev exw oikogeveiakes upoxrewseis,
> Mavwlakn ;-))) kai eimai kai peripeteiwdns fusn :-)))
>Egw alliws akousa gia oikogeneiakes upoxrewsei, Xrhstakh ;-)
>btw 3erw kana-duo merh pou poulane swamp land sth Florida,
>endiaferesai
>gia kammia enendush se real estate? ;-)
Mavwlakn, se parakalw, auta me ta proswpika mail... Rwta me kai 0a
sou apavtnsw o,ti 0es. Meta mporoume va broume eva understanding
gia to ti eivai dnmosieusimo :-))) Pavtws se diabebaiw oti eimai kai
paramevw Bachelor ws to kokkalo (autn eivai n...episnmn 0esn!!)
>> Bebaia uparxei kai eva allo risko sta emerging markets av
>epevdueeis
>> ekei apo allou:
> > suvallagmatikes isotimies, pou mesopro0esma egw oute autes
> >fobamai...
>Koimhsou hsuxos ;-)
Thanks. Allwste gi'auto kavoume epevduseis kai se diaforetika
xrnmatistnria. Me diversification se currencies of investment, mporeis
va koimasai nsuxos! (nremnse re asteieuomai :-)).
>
>> Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
>
>> ug Re Mavwlakn, to allo katebato peri ubrewv kai epixeirnamatwv ti
> >to0eles re?? De 0umamai va apavtaga se epixeirnmata sto Lndaki,
>>se
>> brisies kai eirwvies apavtaga kai aplws tnv plnrofornsa ti poutava kai
> >nli0ia tnv 0ewrw...
>Egw alliws ta 0umamai ta pragmata (kai den apanthses mono sthn
>Lhda
>etsi an den kanw la0os...)
Gervas Mavwlakn, va freskareis tn mvnmn sou. Pavtws vai eixa
apavtnsei kai stnv alln kota. Eftia3a tov Povtikakn omws e??? :-)))
>> Hremnse kai grafe gia xrnmatistnria giati ftiaxtnka me tn suzntnsn
>> autn... :-))
Plaka plaka, mpnkav kai oi Filipives to xwro twv emerging duvamika
opws blepeis, kai mazi me tnv Taiwan kai tnv Sagkan, mporouv telika va
3elaspwsouv ta xartofulakia ekei... Opws ta ferei o Allax Mavwlakn!!:-)
ISWS...
Xrnstaras o Amalnkitns
Homer Faidas
Twra pou bebaiw8nkes gia tnv agapn mas
kopse tis kurile oikovomikes avaluseis (opws parakatw),
e3eplnrwses to epitimio
omnros
ug1 de se katalabaivw re paidaki mou
etsi pou grafeis xwris tov gvwsto
kataiwvismo gevvntikwv orgavwv.
ug2 ri3e kaveva ovoma mutual fund (pou suvistas) se SE asia
kai ta returns tous ta teleutaia 1, 3, 5 xrovia