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Exw tin entypwsi oti stous "kompiouterades" aresei mageireboun saltses =
gia makaronia.:-))
Opote Spyro mou , pare mia syntagi gia na "patsisoume" .

Na mia wraia anoiksiatiki saltsoula pou 8a kopsei k ti ligoura apo to =
poly arni k 8a ri3ei k ligo ti xolisterini.
H syntagi anoikei sto asteri chef B.Stabinsky. To ti mporei na kanei =
aftos o an8ropos me ta heria tou den perigrafetai!
Sas dinw k ti syntagi na ftiaxete monoi sas tin pasta, einai poly =
efkolo, dokimaste to kamia fora , i freskia pasta den ehei kamia shesi =
me tin stegni!
Ftia3te tin prin tin klepsei kaneis k ti deite demo stin prwino kafe ;-)
An 8elete na pieite aspro krasi , apofygete ta poly o3ina ( px =
Moshofilero mantineias klp)

P=E2tes fra=EEches au citron( Lemon cream sauce for pasta)


220g sifted flour
1 egg + 1 white
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 pinches of salt
a bit of water


To prepare the pasta:

In a bowl mix all the ingredients. Work the dough and let it rest in the =
fridge for an hour or so. If you have a pasta machine use it if not, on =
a marble, roll out the dough as thin as possible and cut fine strips of =
dough. Set aside.

To cook the pasta:

In a big pan full of boiling salted water add the noodles and cook for =
about 5 minutes. Drain and set aside and keep warm.


For the sauce:

Zest of 4 organic lemons
10 cl dry white wine
20 cl cr=E8me fra=EEche
50g Gruy=E8re, finely grated


Just before serving, in a pan add the zest and the white wine. Cook =
until reduce by half. Add the noodle to the pan and the cr=E8me =
fra=EEche. If the noodles absorb all the cr=E8me fra=EEche add a little =
bit more to keep the noodle moist. Add salt and pepper if needed, a bit =
of lemon juice and the Gruy=E8re. As soon as the mixture thickens a bit =
serve.


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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>Exw tin entypwsi =
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"kompiouterades" aresei mageireboun saltses gia =
makaronia.:-))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>Opote Spyro mou , pare =
mia syntagi=20
gia na "patsisoume" .</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>Na mia wraia =
anoiksiatiki=20
saltsoula&nbsp;pou 8a kopsei k ti ligoura apo to poly arni k 8a ri3ei k =
ligo ti=20
xolisterini.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>&nbsp;H syntagi =
anoikei sto asteri=20
chef B.Stabinsky. To ti mporei na kanei aftos o an8ropos me ta heria tou =
den=20
perigrafetai!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>Sas dinw k ti syntagi =
na ftiaxete=20
monoi sas tin pasta, einai poly efkolo, dokimaste to kamia fora , i =
freskia=20
pasta den ehei kamia shesi me tin stegni!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>Ftia3te tin prin tin =
klepsei=20
kaneis k ti deite demo stin prwino kafe ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>An 8elete na pieite =
aspro krasi ,=20
apofygete ta poly o3ina ( px Moshofilero mantineias klp)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>P=E2tes fra=EEches au =
citron( Lemon=20
cream sauce for pasta)<BR><BR><BR>220g sifted flour<BR>1 egg + 1 =
white<BR>1=20
tablespoon olive oil<BR>2 pinches of salt<BR>a bit of =
water<BR><BR><BR>To=20
prepare the pasta:<BR><BR>In a bowl mix all the ingredients. Work the =
dough and=20
let it rest in the fridge for an hour or so. If you have a pasta machine =
use it=20
if not, on a marble, roll out the dough as thin as possible and cut fine =
strips=20
of dough. Set aside.<BR><BR>To cook the pasta:<BR><BR>In a big pan full =
of=20
boiling salted water add the noodles and cook for about 5 minutes. Drain =
and set=20
aside and keep warm.<BR><BR><BR>For the sauce:</FONT></DIV>
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face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800080></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#800080><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS">Zest of=20
4 organic lemons<BR>10 cl dry white wine<BR>20 cl cr=E8me =
fra=EEche<BR>50g Gruy=E8re,=20
finely grated<BR><BR><BR>Just before serving, in a pan add the zest and =
the=20
white wine. Cook until reduce by half. Add the noodle to the pan and the =
cr=E8me=20
fra=EEche. If the noodles absorb all the cr=E8me fra=EEche add a little =
bit more to=20
keep the noodle moist. Add salt and pepper if needed, a bit of lemon =
juice and=20
the Gruy=E8re. As soon as the mixture thickens a bit=20
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sophia

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Amav re Bibav, egw pastes 3erw auta ta mikra or0ogwvia parallnlepipeda
pou poulave ta zaxaroplasteia kai amesws skeftnka "apo pote trwgovtai ta
apstakai me saltsa;". Bale zumarika va mnv ta mperdeuoume me seravo,
sokolatives, amugdalou, Mari-louiz kai alla tetoia

Spyros Daskaleas

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Eisai hli8ia.

SCD

PS ZWO!

George Baloglou

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Egw navtws vomiza nws o tovos htav cto deutepo a: "caltces gia pegges",
ckef8hka kai npocnepaca xwpis va diabacw... To mhvuma ths Cofias htav
bebaia idewdes gia malliotpabhgma -- oti npenei gia dialeimma twpa nou
npenei va ftia3w telika diagwvicmata -- alla o Dackaleas thv xalace thv
fach me thv diakpitikh tou napembach ... ti va kavoume, allh fopa...

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Efthymiopoulou Vivian

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From: "George Baloglou" <balo...@OSWEGO.EDU>


Subject: Re: Saltsa gia pasta ( Syntagi)


> Egw navtws vomiza nws o tovos htav cto deutepo a: "caltces gia =


pegges",
> ckef8hka kai npocnepaca xwpis va diabacw... To mhvuma ths Cofias htav
> bebaia idewdes gia malliotpabhgma -- oti npenei gia dialeimma twpa nou

> npenei va ftia3w telika diagwvicmata -- alla o Dackaleas thv xalace =


thv
> fach me thv diakpitikh tou napembach ... ti va kavoume, allh fopa...

>=20
Egw kyrie Ka8hghta prospa8hsa na min sas apogoitefsw alla 1-2 minimata =
den bghkan akomi apo ti lista!Se ena apo afta apantousa sti Sophia.
Krima, giati hanei k ti nosta tou na bgainoun oi apantiseis mpagiatikes.

Vivian

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>From: "George =
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&lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:balo...@OSWEGO.EDU"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
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gia pasta (=20
Syntagi)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>&gt; Egw navtws vomiza =
nws o tovos=20
htav cto deutepo a: "caltces gia pegges",<BR>&gt; ckef8hka kai =
npocnepaca xwpis=20
va diabacw... To mhvuma ths Cofias htav<BR>&gt; bebaia idewdes gia=20
malliotpabhgma -- oti npenei gia dialeimma twpa nou<BR>&gt; npenei va =
ftia3w=20
telika diagwvicmata -- alla o Dackaleas thv xalace thv<BR>&gt; fach me =
thv=20
diakpitikh tou napembach ... ti va kavoume, allh fopa...<BR>&gt; =
<BR><FONT=20
color=3D#ff00ff>Egw kyrie Ka8hghta prospa8hsa na min sas apogoitefsw =
alla 1-2=20
minimata den bghkan akomi apo ti lista!Se ena apo afta apantousa sti=20
Sophia.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#ff00ff>Krima, giati hanei k =
ti nosta=20
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Spyros Daskaleas

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8a se malwsw. Mhn exontas melethsei thn psyxosyn8esh ths Oikonomidoy
opws egw, den exeis katalabei oti de ginetai tipota sto prwto mynhma poy
antalassei me kainoyrgio... Perimene kana mhna kai ta leme...

SCD

PS "Diakritikh"... Moy arese ayto :-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Hellenic Discussion List

> [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On Behalf Of George Baloglou
> Sent: 11 May 2002 02:27
> To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
> Subject: Re: Saltsa gia pasta ( Syntagi)
>
>
> Egw navtws vomiza nws o tovos htav cto deutepo a: "caltces

> gia pegges", ckef8hka kai npocnepaca xwpis va diabacw... To


> mhvuma ths Cofias htav bebaia idewdes gia malliotpabhgma --
> oti npenei gia dialeimma twpa nou npenei va ftia3w telika

> diagwvicmata -- alla o Dackaleas thv xalace thv fach me thv


> diakpitikh tou napembach ... ti va kavoume, allh fopa...
>

> In article <abh73u$55m$1...@cruncher.dfci.harvard.edu>,
> Spyros Daskaleas <vb04...@VIZZAVI.PT> wrote:
>
> >Eisai hli8ia.
> >
> >SCD
> >
> >PS ZWO!
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: The Hellenic Discussion List
> [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On
> >> Behalf Of sophia
> >>
> Sent: 09 May 2002 22:23
> >> To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU

> >> Subject: Re: Saltsa gia pasta ( Syntagi)
> >>
> >>

savaidis

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Pasta legetai enas epejergasmenos poltos (alebri+nero)san ayton poy
ftiaxnoyn ta zymarika.Kai malista lene oti proerxetai apo ta ellhnika.
Ta dika mas makaronia einai ta spagetti sta Italika kai ta makaroni twn
Italwn einai ta xontra makaronia gia pastitsio.(-one -oni einai kati megalo
sta italika p.x. buffone = megalos blakas)
Lene "primo piato e pasta" oxi "makaroni".

Des kai edw:

http://www.ilovepasta.org/shapes.html merika (oxi ola) ta eidh

kai
http://wwww.pasta.it

La parola "pasta" deriva probabilmente da un termine greco che significa
"farina mista a liquido"ed e un impresa assai poco immaginabile attribuire a
qualcuno la paternita di avere per primo mescolato grano polverizzato ad
acqua cosi da ottenerne un impasto per uso alimentare.

Kai enas pio plhrhs katalogos:
http://www.pasta.it/forme.htm


PS> MH moy steileis kamia 100sth links. An uelw ta briskw kai monos moy :)


Makis

Efthymiopoulou Vivian

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> 8a se malwsw. Mhn exontas melethsei thn psyxosyn8esh ths Oikonomidoy

> opws egw, den exeis katalabei oti de ginetai tipota sto prwto mynhma =


poy
> antalassei me kainoyrgio... Perimene kana mhna kai ta leme...

>=20
> SCD
>=20
Spyro honey

Wishful thinking!
Exw kryo aima, pou lene k sti Mani :-))

V.

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>From: "Spyros =
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&lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:vb04...@VIZZAVI.PT"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800080>&gt; 8a se malwsw. Mhn =
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melethsei thn psyxosyn8esh ths Oikonomidoy<BR>&gt; opws egw, den exeis =
katalabei=20
oti de ginetai tipota sto prwto mynhma poy<BR>&gt; antalassei me =
kainoyrgio...=20
Perimene kana mhna kai ta leme...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; SCD<BR>&gt; <BR><FONT =

color=3D#ff00ff>Spyro honey</FONT></FONT></DIV>


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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#ff00ff>Exw kryo aima, pou =
lene k sti Mani=20
:-))</FONT></DIV>


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Efthymiopoulou Vivian

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Na k h diki mou apantisi!!!!!
H Sophia tin pire. Oi ypoloipoi Ohi
Thanks Sophia

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From: "sophia" <sop...@SAPIENCE.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
To: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Saltsa gia pasta ( Syntagi)


> > Efthymiopoulou Vivian wrote:
> >
> > Eiha grapsei stin arhi tou post oti einai saltsa gia makaronia.
> Egw sxoliasa tyov titlo kai oxi to periexomevo, ki opws eipe ki allos,
> mperdema givetai outws 'n allws efosov o tovos 0a mporouse va eivai stn
> lngousa, opws leme paidakia sta karbouva (avtistoixo twv triwv paidwv ev
> tn kamivw) :-)))))))))))
> Amav pia, eipa va sou kavw tnv paratnrnsn oti ta zumarika ta leme sta
> ellnvika zumarika kai oxi pasta, me oligov xioumor, alla n adymamia tns
> listas opws pavta 0riambeuei. Oxi pws uparxei prokatalnyn se o,ti grafw,
> pros 0eou, tetoia pragmata!!!
>
>
> > Sophia, zeis sta ba8h tou Londinou k i le3h pasta sou 8ymise tin
> > Amugdalou?
>
> Nai, dioti otav omilw tnv ellnviknv skeftomai eis tnv ellnviknv. Pou
> eivai to periergo dnladn; Kai efosov avaferosouv se fagnto, eivai
> profaves oti dev evvoouses oti eivai apo kaln pasta" 'n alla tetoia
> idiwmatika.
>
> > Nomiza oti mono emeis, ta blahadera apo ta Anatolika
> > Ierosolyma, ehoume tetoies proslambanouses :-))
>
> Dev eivai 0ema epipedou 'n mn. Sta ellnvika n le3n autn, oso ki av tnv
> avaluei o Makns, de snmaivei "zumariko". Logika evas ellnvas pou tnv
> akouei se ellnviko dialogo 0a prepei va skeftei prwta tis alles
> ermnveies tns. Blepeis, av kai katoikos e3wterikou kai pio priv
> megalwmevn se diglwsso periballov, apofeugw va avakateuw le3eis apo
> diafores glwsses stnv idia frasn.
> euxaristnmevn twra me tnv avalusn 'n 0es ki alla;
>

sophia

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Phidias N. Bourlas

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> Efthymiopoulou Vivian wrote:
>
> Exw kryo aima, pou lene k sti Mani :-))

To exw avtilnf8ei, alla' skopeuw va kavw merika test akomn.

[Prwtn fora akouw bebaia oti n pasta eivai kati allo,
ektos apo autes tou zaxaroplasteiou - pastes, tourtes klp.
Kati evdiaferov eivai oti kai to makarovi exei Ellnvikn
etumologia te kai proeleusn` swsta;]

> V.

F.M.

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Όταν ο Σλήμαν ξεκίνησε την ανασκαφή στον ταφικό κύκλο Α, τον χώρο
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Σλήμαν ΑΓΑΜΕΜΝΟΝΑΣ. Η έκπληξη ήταν τεράστια , όταν σηκώνοντας την
γνωστή πλέον χρυσή προσωπίδα ανακάλυψαν ότι ο νεκρός ηταν
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αλλα τα δυο μάτια διακρίνονταν τέλεια όπως και το στόμα , το οποίο
λόγω του τεράστιου βάρους που είχε δεχτεί ήταν διαπλατο ανοιχτό
αποκαλύπτοντας 32 όμορφα δόντια. Ολοι οι γιατροί που ήλθαν να δούν
τον νεκρό συμπέραναν από τα δόντια ότι ο άντρας αυτος πρέπει να είχε
πεθάνει στην νεαρή ηλικία των 35 ετών. Η μύτη ειχε εξαφανιστεί
τελείως..."

...Το θέμα τώρα όμως ηταν πως θα διατηρούσαν την μούμια . Ετσι ο
Σλήμαν τηλεγραφεί στο Ναύπλιο ζητώντας από ένα ζωγράφο να γίνει πρώτα
μια ελαιογραφία. Ο ίδιος και πάλι ο αρχαιολόγος γράφει : "Ετσι ειμαι
σε θέση να δώσω μια πιστή περιγραφή του σώματος , όπως φαινόταν μετά
την απομάκρυνση ολων των χρυσών κοσμημάτων που το κάλυπταν"

Ετσι σώζεται μια ξυλογραφία που δημοσιεύτηκε στο λεύκωμα των ΜΥΚΗΝΩΝ
του ΣΛΗΜΑΝ. Ο ΣΛΗΜΑΝ όμως δεν επαναπαύτηκε. Τώρα θέλει να σώσει, αν
μπορέσει και την μούμια από την ενδεχόμενη καταστροφή. Όπως ο ίδιος
διηγήται "αφού το σώμα έμεινε εκτεθειμένο για δυό μέρες, ένας
φαρμακοποιός από το Αργος με το όνομα Σπυρίδων Νικολάου, το
στερεοποίησε χύνοντας πανω του οινόπνευμα, μέσα στο οποίο είχε
διαλύσει ένα είδος φυσικής κόλλας." Με τον τρόπο αυτό διεσώθη η σορός
του ανθρώπου που ο Σλήμαν ταύτισε με τον Αγαμέμνονα.

Και εδώ αρχίζουν τα ερωτήματα

Τι έγινε το σώμα του νεκρού ; Γνωρίζουμε ότι η μεταφορά έγινε στην
Αθήνα. Σωζεται και φυλάσσεται στο ΕΘΝΙΚΟ Αρχαιολογικό Μουσείο.

ΓΙΑΤΙ ποτέ δεν μάθαμε για την μούμια του Αγαμέμνονα;

Γιατι σήμερα δεν εκτίθεται πουθενά η μούμια;

Μηπως θεωρειται έκθεμα μικρής αξίας;

Και είναι όντως η μούμια του Αγαμέμωνα;

Εχουμε να κάνουμε με μια από τις σημαντικότερες μορφές του παναρχαιου
προιστορικού Ελληνισμού. Ισως τον ΑΓΑΜΕΜΝΟΝΑ, ή τον ΠΕΡΣΕΑ, τον
ΕΥΡΥΜΕΔΟΝΤΑ , ή ακόμα και αυτόν τον γενάρχη των Πελοπιδών , ΠΕΛΟΠΑ...

ΦΕΡΤΕ ΣΤΟ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΟ ΦΩΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΙΕΡΟΥΣ ΝΕΚΡΟΥΣ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ, ΜΗΝ ΜΑΣ
ΣΤΕΡΕΙΤΕ ΕΠΙ ΤΕΛΟΥΣ ΤΗΝ ΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ ΜΑΣ !!!

Η σορος του αγαπημενου αυτου προγονου το πιθανοτερο ειναι σημερα
να βρισκεται ξεχασμενη σε καποιο μουχλιασμενο και ανηλιο υπογειο,
αφου τιποτα και πουθενα στο Εθνικο Αρχαιολογικο Μουσειο Αθηνων
δεν αναφερεται στο σημαντικοτατο αυτο λειψανο
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( H katastash apaitei fuchia fonts)...

Kala 8a steilw mia pasta amugdalou mpas k syner8ete... ( leme twra...)
Omws Feidia, min eheis amfibolies gia to kryo aima mou ;-))
Kala gia ta alla enta3h , kalhn antamwsh sta gounaradika k kala krasia.
Eite Paides Ellhnwn!!=20
Kante mhnysi ston Homer pou sta Eph tou egrafe oloklhres skhnes me =
apotefrwsh nekrwn...
Kante mhnysi episis ston Kallitehni tou Dipylou pou zwgrafize skines =
apotefrwshs sta aggeia tou , pou fylassontai sto Arhaiologiko Mouseio, =
mpainontas , stin prwth ai8ousa de3ia.

Oso gia to ti egine h Moumia? Thn phre h megalh k monadikh Mossad k thn =
katahwniase sthn ypogeio biblio8hkh thw Zyrixhs gia na apodei3ei thn mia =
k monadikh alh8eia oti=20
" Eimaste oloi Ebraioi"=20

Mmmmoouts!

V
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Phidias N. Bourlas" <phi...@freemail.gr>
To: "Efthymiopoulou Vivian" <vef...@otenet.gr>
Cc: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 4:25 PM


Subject: Re: Saltsa gia pasta ( Syntagi)


> > Efthymiopoulou Vivian wrote:
> >=20


> > Exw kryo aima, pou lene k sti Mani :-))

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> To exw avtilnf8ei, alla' skopeuw va kavw merika test akomn.

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> [Prwtn fora akouw bebaia oti n pasta eivai kati allo,
> ektos apo autes tou zaxaroplasteiou - pastes, tourtes klp.
> Kati evdiaferov eivai oti kai to makarovi exei Ellnvikn
> etumologia te kai proeleusn` swsta;]

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sophia

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> Efthymiopoulou Vivian wrote:
>
>
> ( H katastash apaitei fuchia fonts)...

Nai alla emeis duskoleuomaste va ta diabasoume.


>
> Kala 8a steilw mia pasta amugdalou mpas k syner8ete... ( leme twra...)

Protimw MAri-Louiz dioti pavta avarwtiomouv pws ebazav to zele apo pavw,
av aki upo0etw to eftiaxvav xwrista kai to pros0etav. Kai btw, va eivai
kalns poiotntas n suvtagn, giati edw sta Lovdiva pou exouv pastes kati
ellnvika magazia eivai gia klamata, to pavtespavi eivai sola klpklp.

> Kante mhnysi ston Homer pou sta Eph tou egrafe oloklhres skhnes me

> apotefrwsh nekrwn...

Ekave tetoia o mpamaps tou Bart Simson;

Phidias N. Bourlas

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> Efthymiopoulou Vivian wrote:
>
> ( H katastash apaitei fuchia fonts)...

Pw's faivetai n kallitexvikn fusis! Egw to polu-polu
va skeptomouv va apavtnsw me grammikn grafn n' rouvika.

> Kala 8a steilw mia pasta amugdalou mpas k syner8ete... ( leme twra...)

> Omws Feidia, min eheis amfibolies gia to kryo aima mou ;-))

Omologoumevws, Bibiav, sta prwta test avtepe3nl8es me epituxia.
0a mou epitreyeis omws va suvexisw. :->

> Eite Paides Ellhnwn!!

Eite paides Ellnvwv eite paides barbarwv.

> Kante mhnysi ston Homer pou sta Eph tou egrafe oloklhres skhnes me apotefrwsh nekrwn...

Ev pasei periptwsei, ta peri "moumiopoinsewv" ovtws me
para3eveyav. (Wra eivai va bgei kai kavas Bernal va leei peri
aiguptiakwv epidrasewv.) Bebaiws uparxouv kai periptwseis opou
to swma diatnreitai avalloiwto apo movo tou, opws sta agia leiyava.

Telos pavtwv. Elega va pw kai gia ta osta twv nrwwv
A8nvaiwv tou Dnmosiou Snmatos, alla' asto gi' allote.
0a suvexisoume me kati pio evdiaferov.

Kai, pes stous... upogeious, Bibiav, mataiopoveite! :->
Essetai nmar!

> V

F.M.

savaidis

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May 11, 2002, 3:30:03 PM5/11/02
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Mallon oxi' ta zymarika hruan sthn Ellada meta thn emfanish ths onomasias
"makaroni".

http://www.barilla.com/tradizione_mediterranea/storia/index.html

Bebaia jerw ti ua moy peis : Maka- Makrya klp. Isws pali na empleje kanenas
Ellhnas h Ellhnofwnos ekei sthn Katw Italia me toys prwtoys makaronades.

BTW Uewrw ta Barilla ta kalytera zymarika - entos kai ektos Ellados.
Kai apoti blepw exoyn agorasei kai thn MISKO.
Apo ta Ellhnika - kata seira-ta Stella, Korona, Melissa. Einai sxedon isajia
me ta Barilla.
Kai yparxoyn kai metria ews xalia Italika (Cirio kai diafora alla poly
fuhna)
Fysika to poso kala einai ta zymarika ejartatai apo to an exoyn ginei apo
sklhro sitari kai apo thn poiothta toy sitarioy. Exoyn xrwma skoyro.
Epishs den jerw an exete ypocin sas thn saltsa "pesto" poy einai etoimh
saltsa mesa se ena bazaki me bash ton basiliko, skordo, alati, koykoynari
klp. Otan deite ston katalogo p.x. "spagetti all' pesto", ayto einai.
Serbiretai opws einai xwris kamia prosuhkh. An uelete bazete 1-2 koytalies
mesa sthn saltsa ntomatas poy etoimazete (h se mia elafria asprh). Prosoxh
einai poly almyro. Dokimasa kai ellhniko kai italiko alla to ellhniko htan
emfanws ypodeestero. Ualega oti o basilikos toy htan kapws "tagkismenos"
(dhl. ta elaia toy eixan arxisei na pairnoyn mia bareia myrwdia) enw to
italiko euwdiaze.
Na pw kai to klassiko: Apofeygete ta zymarika me to kreas.(opws kai ola ta
amylwdh)

Makis


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> Behalf Of Phidias N. Bourlas
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 4:25 PM
> To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
> Subject: Re: Saltsa gia pasta ( Syntagi)
>
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> > Efthymiopoulou Vivian wrote:
> >
> > Exw kryo aima, pou lene k sti Mani :-))
>

> To exw avtilnf8ei, alla' skopeuw va kavw merika test akomn.
>

> [Prwtn fora akouw bebaia oti n pasta eivai kati allo,
> ektos apo autes tou zaxaroplasteiou - pastes, tourtes klp.
> Kati evdiaferov eivai oti kai to makarovi exei Ellnvikn
> etumologia te kai proeleusn` swsta;]
>

Efthymiopoulou Vivian

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> Ev pasei periptwsei, ta peri "moumiopoinsewv" ovtws me
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Kai giafto anhsyheis bre kouto??? 8a bgei kamia Ebraia opws h Mary =
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Re MAkn, n Barilla exie agorasei tn MISKO edw kai polla xrovia, kai
ekleisav to ergostasio stnv Patra gia va avoi3ouv stn F0iwtida, epeidn
ekei 0a epairvav epidotisn (ta gvwsta, epidotoume tnv au3nsn tns
avergias stnv Axaia, dioti 0a meiw0ei n avergia stn F0iwtida, to
apotelesma a0 eivai to idio bebaiws). Pws vomizeis oti exie gemisei n
Ellnviknagora me p[roiovta Barilla, oxi movo zumarika alla kai mpiskota
kai alla paremfern; To diktuo pwlnsewv tns Misko ntav eva ki eva.
Egw pavtws me Misko megalwsa kai dev ta allazoume me tipota, av aki olo
ka pio polu pairovume Barilla pleov. Pavtws exw mazi mou edw sta wraia
Lovdiva to biblioi suvtagwv tns misko, to opoio moiraze sta soupermarket
pro ekatovtaetias, se xarti iloustrasiov kai suvtages tns Xrusas
Paradeisn, ka exiemesa mia terasstia poikilia zumarikwv, ta opoia de
vomizw va bgazei pleov n etairia, kapou 90 diaforetika sxnmata.

Oso gia tn saltsa pesto (pistou stn Gallia), eixame kavei megales
suzntnseis palia edw emsa gia to pws ftiaxvetai ki av n kokkivn pesto
eivai e3isou au0evtikn me tnv prasivn :-)))

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