Re: macintosh advice sought
EDTECH Editor-Hogan
Jeff,
I talked with my Apple guy and he said the power cable was indeed a
separate able plugged in behind the stand (see picture link below) and
that it is a regular power cord only white. So, if you have a spare
lying around you should be able to use it. He also said you will have to
get a mini displayport to dvi/vga adapter for the signal.
http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/apple-24-inch-led-ci
nema-display-1.jpg
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>So, Mac folks...can I use this with a PC? Or have I Just inherited a
>clunky book end?
At this time, it doesn't look like you can. Reference is below. Now if
your video card has a mini display port on it, or if you can find an
adaptor then you might be able to use it.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8818494
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EDTECH Editor-Hogan
Two suggestions:
1. Google is your friend. A quick search on "apple cinema display" +PC
yields
lots of information. The high points:
- it supports DVI input - if your graphics card supports DVI, you can use the
display
- depending on the model, you may or may not need a cable adaptor
- it says "magsafe" connection - that's the connector to an external power
supply
2. There's an Apple Store in Orlando - give them a call.
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EDTECH Editor-Hogan
First off, you can hate Macs and all, that's fine, but bitching about
inherited gear is kinda silly, regardless of platform.
You did not receive a power cord with your display, if all you have is the
multi cord that goes from the monitor to a mac laptop. A standard Edison
plug for electronics should do it for you, or you can get the specific
power cable from Apple (or, better yet, eBay).
Yes, you can use it with a PC.
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EDTECH Editor-Hogan
Personally, I'm mousebedextrious. I use both PC and Mac, but it seems that
Apple is doing little things that are infuriating even the most avid Mac
fans.
I assume that with a new display, the power cord is there, but that's not
always the case with essentials.
I have a friend who has been Mac since they came out. He just bought new Mac
Book Pro, went to set up for a presentation, and found that there was no
adapter for the projector. It had previously been standard equipment. Now it
costs $35 extra. In his words, "If they given it to me and included the
$35 in
the price of the computer, I wouldn't have know or cared, but by not
including
it and charging me $35, they got $1000 worth of bad customer relations!"
What's particularly aggravating is the $35 price tag. If they are saving
money
by not including it any packages, the price should be more in line with
reality
for those who do need it. It reminds me of when I got my first Mac back
around
1989. I eagerly opened it, only to find out that the keyboard and mouse were
not part of the price. No one mentioned it when they took my order and I was
not a happy camper having to spend the extra money AND wait for it to arrive.
I guess it's not true what they say. It seems you CAN go back.
Art
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EDTECH Editor-Hogan
Guys,
I probably worded my first inquiry wrong. Connecting it to the PC is the
easy part.
Getting power to this puppy is what challenges me.
I see no power chord -- nor do I see anywhere that a power chord would go.
If you look at this image:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/97458650_53054c88ea.jpg
You'll see what I see. 4 cables; but, none of them are power cables.
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Jeff Hogan, M.S.
Instructional Technology Specialist
Health Sciences
Valencia Community College
1800 S. Kirkman, 4-14
Orlando, Florida 32811
407-582-5564
EDTECH Editor-Hogan
I'm mousebedextrous as well. I know your pain.
It gets worse. There are three different connection adapters I must keep
around to connect all of our Apple laptops to a projector or external
display: mini-VGA (used by iBooks and some PowerBooks), mini-DVI (used by
MacBooks and iMacs until recently) and mini-Display Port (used by current
MacBooks, MacBook Pros, and iMacs). In addition, the 15" MacBook Pro I'm
using right now has none of the above, it has a full DVI-D port, so to
connect to a VGA cable, I need still another adapter. While I like DVI
much better than VGA, carrying all these adapters is a pain in the neck.
Worse yet is explaining to my users why the various adapters won't work
for their particular computer.
Worst of all is the fact that the current adapter, mini-display port,
incorporates all of the DRM so loved by the music and movie industry which
is so strangling that you can quite easily be prevented from playing a
movie you've created yourself on a large display.
Other Apple abuses include removing the IEEE1394/Firewire 400 ports from
all computers, and all Firewire from the MacBooks; they also have removed
the ExpressCard port from laptops. I have several express cards, which
will all become useless when I get around to upgrading my 3 year-old
laptop.
Guy Durrant
Daggett SD
Manila UT
EDTECH Editor-Hogan
Jeff,
Here's what my Mac guy said...
He doesn't have an LED display. The LED display does have the power
connection built into the monitor, and can have a cable plugged directly
into it. However, the LCD display, which is the one he has, does not
have a built in and requires power brick that connects to one of the
tips on the cable that is embedded in the display.
Edmund (Ted) Seidel M.S.
Senior Information Specialist
Department of Petroleum Engineering
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EDTECH Editor-Hogan
At 8:04 AM -0500 12/21/09, From: M G Durrant <m...@ucet.org>
> It gets worse. There are three different connection adapters I must keep
On the other hand, the new small video port lets Apple make smaller and
lighter
laptops than if they had to fit in a VGA port. There are always
trade-offs. At
least Apple makes sure there are adapters so you can connect to the various
flavors of display.
(Don't like the sound of the DRM thing, though, but I haven't looked into
that
myself.)
> Other Apple abuses include removing the IEEE1394/Firewire 400 ports from
> all computers,
I'm not sure why this is an "abuse", since all but two models include one (or
more) Firewire 800 ports, and Firewire 800 ports can be used to connect to
Firewire 400 devices. The switch from Firewire 400 ports to only Firewire 800
ports is an upgrade, not an abuse.
> and all Firewire from the MacBooks;
The only two computers that do not have Firewire are the MacBook and the
MacBook Air -- all others, including all the MacBook Pros, and all the
desktop
computers, have Firewire. The price differential between the MacBook (without
Firewire) and the 13" MacBook Pro (with Firewire, SD card, and a few other
perks) is $200.
In other words, the MacBook is for people who don't need Firewire -- this is
Apple being nice, letting such people get a less expensive laptop, not an
"abuse".
> they also have removed
> the ExpressCard port from laptops.
Only some laptops. The MacBook Pro 17" still has a ExpressCard/34 slot, and I
believe some models never had one to start with.
> I have several express cards, which
> will all become useless when I get around to upgrading my 3 year-old
> laptop.
Unless you upgrade to a 17" MacBook Pro.
Neither Apple nor any other computer company can keep every port technology
forever -- the result would be larger, more expensive machines just so a
minority of users can keep using their old equipment.
One of the certainties when it comes to computer technology is that
eventually
previously cutting edge technology will be obsolete. For good or ill, the
computer buying public seems to prefer to buy computers that keep up with the
latest technologies, and I don't think it reasonable to fault Apple or any
other computer company for catering to (and even encouraging) that.
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