Anti-Catholicism and the pro-life movement

[(Gordon C. Zaft)]

On Nov 2, 6:16am, "(Edward J. Branley)" wrote:
} Subject: Re: Catholics, Fundamentalists and Abortion
}
} Marty, your article was quite informative, however, it does not alter the fact
} that many of the groups involved in the pro-life movement are anti-Catholic,
} and that still should be a concern for us all. Going into a discourse on
} anti-Catholicism and your knowledge of the subject doesn't change this.
}
}-- End of excerpt from "(Edward J. Branley)"

Well, my experience (for what it's worth) doesn't bear that out.
While I'm sure there are some anti-Catholics in the pro-life movement,
I haven't run into them. For the most part Catholics are quite
respected. At the 'Turn the Hearts' rally in 91 (I think) in Pasadena,
the speaker (an evangelical) said (paraphrase) "We came charging over
the hill and found the Catholics had been there for years." He alos
told Cardinal Mahony (an honored guest speaker) "I wake up every day
and thank God for your leadership and your commitment." (again, a
paraphrase)

Ed, what anti-Catholic prejudice have you experienced in the
pro-life movement?

GZ

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>> respected. At the 'Turn the Hearts' rally in 91 (I think) in Pasadena,
>> the speaker (an evangelical) said (paraphrase) "We came charging over
>> the hill and found the Catholics had been there for years." He alos
>> told Cardinal Mahony (an honored guest speaker) "I wake up every day
>> and thank God for your leadership and your commitment." (again, a
>> paraphrase)
>>
>> Ed, what anti-Catholic prejudice have you experienced in the
>> pro-life movement?
>>

Well
my experience with the fundamental protestants and some
so called evangelical protestant is surely at odd with your
experience above. All of them are anticatholic and i Am sure
Ed being in Lousiana, probably encounter a lot of them.

I do find it very uneasy, this prolife alliance with these fundamentalist
protestants. Their anticatholicism and pseudoprolife will alienated many
Catholics with their violent tactics. The prolife movement should be
a practice of nonviolent disobedience. The proAbortion movement
may have movie stars as their idols, but we have Mother Theresa.
as our guidance and example

Just a rambling thought.

Leonardus Yuwono

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[Edward J. Branley]

"(Gordon C. Zaft)" <za...@CARITAS.COTDAZR.ORG> writes:

> On Nov 2, 6:16am, "(Edward J. Branley)" wrote:
> } Subject: Re: Catholics, Fundamentalists and Abortion
> }
> } Marty, your article was quite informative, however, it does not alter the f

> } that many of the groups involved in the pro-life movement are anti-Catholic

> } and that still should be a concern for us all. Going into a discourse on
> } anti-Catholicism and your knowledge of the subject doesn't change this.
> }
> }-- End of excerpt from "(Edward J. Branley)"
>
> Well, my experience (for what it's worth) doesn't bear that out.
> While I'm sure there are some anti-Catholics in the pro-life movement,
> I haven't run into them. For the most part Catholics are quite
> respected. At the 'Turn the Hearts' rally in 91 (I think) in Pasadena,
> the speaker (an evangelical) said (paraphrase) "We came charging over
> the hill and found the Catholics had been there for years." He alos
> told Cardinal Mahony (an honored guest speaker) "I wake up every day
> and thank God for your leadership and your commitment." (again, a
> paraphrase)
>
> Ed, what anti-Catholic prejudice have you experienced in the
> pro-life movement?
>

Actually, Gordon, there's not much prejudice in the movement itself. The
problem is that many of the churches that are active in the movement are run by
pastors who are distinctly anti-Catholic. By this I mean that these churches
(in particular a couple of Assemblies of God congregations) do anything from
open preaching against Catholics to 'dirty tricks' recruiting tactics directed
at young people here in New Orleans. These same pastors then rally lots of
folks for clinic demonstrations, etc.

As I said, I haven't seen any evidence of prejudice here in New Orleans, but
I have heard of some problems in Baton Rouge, particularly stemming from the
Operation Rescue activities there last summer. OR is a group that turns many a
person off, and since lots of those folks are Catholic in this part of the
state, there was a bit of grumbling that many of the priests 'sold out.'

I dunno. Maybe it's just a regional problem here. The northern part of the
state is primarily Southern Baptist, while southern LA is predominantly
Catholic, owing to New Orleans' and Cajun Country's strong Catholic roots.
Evangelical preachers in this part of the state have no choice but to recruit
from the Catholic population, since blacks are still unwelcome in many of those
congregations (not to mention many Catholic parishes also). That's why the
recruiting squads and such.

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Leonardus Yuwono wrote:

>I do find it very uneasy, this prolife alliance with these fundamentalist
>protestants. Their anticatholicism and pseudoprolife will alienated many
>Catholics with their violent tactics. The prolife movement should be
>a practice of nonviolent disobedience.

I'm not sure what you mean by "pseudoprolife".

I agree that we do better with prayer vigils outside clinics than with
rescues or blockades. At the last vigil I attended, members of my
organization, NOEL -- National Organization of Episcopalians for Life,
sang songs and said prayers with Protestants and Roman Catholics and
recited rosaries with Roman Catholics. I saw no anticatholicism except
from the abortion advocates who showed up with condoms on fake rosaries.

Here in Massachusetts, quite a number of Roman Catholics (even priests)
are on trial for tactics that go beyond what I'm willing to do. The
violent tactics are not restricted to any one religion.

Anglicans and Roman Catholics should cooperate with Protestants for
God's greater glory, especially in saving His innocent children from
the abortion holocaust.

/john