I'm curious, Brian - why "obnoxious"? I find the BFP moderately useful, and
while I agree it's not one of the world's great pro-photographer
organisations, it doesn't rate like the Ku Klux Klan. Do tell.
Thanks for highlighting the useful books - I've learned something. I've
always found the great majority of photography books to be disappointing at
best, and meretricious twaddle at worst, but some have been listed here
recently that experienced people obviously find valuable, so I will seek them
out. I am especially surprised to find some good books specifically on stock
photography mentioned, since I didn't think this kind of book existed.
Allow me to mention a couple. Martin Evening's books have been mentioned
already, and I confirm that I find his "Adobe Photoshop 5.0 (& 6.0 et al) for
Photographers" definitely required reading: Focal Press, Oxford, 2000 et seq,
ISBN 0 240 51591 9. I got it because a review said it was the only Photoshop
book written specifically for photographers, as opposed to layout people,
designers, etc, and this is still true AFAIK
Didn't someone here say that books on technique were pointless (or words to
that effect) for stock photographers? I disagree - I'm always willing to
learn from someone expert in his field. I'm interested in shooting interiors,
something applicable to many types of stock shooting I'd have thought, and
the best book I've found on the subject is Professional Interior Photography,
by Michael Harris, Focal Press, Oxford 1998 (orig, 1993) ISBN 0 240 51475 0
Roger Hicks and his wife Frances Schultz have produced an awful lot of pretty
crappy books on photography - one has to admire their productivity - but
amongst the dross is another rather useful interiors book, Interior Shots,
subtitled A guide to pro lighting techniques - Quarto, London, 1995, ISBN 0
88046 247 9
Best wishes -
Anthony Harrison
features & photography: interiors, stock, editorial
(UK=44) [0]1803 732 559 email Antho...@aol.com
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Anthony and Fellow Listreaders:
I don't recall the comment that technique books were "pointless"
but I was under the impression that Brian was looking for books on
the Stock Photography business. I too, own many books on
photographic technique and I refer to them all the time.
My favorites?
Photographic Facts and Formulas
by Wall and Jordan
Basic Photography
by M.J. Langeford
both are from Focal Press
I also have heard that J. Barry O'Rourke and Micheal Keller are
coming out with a new book on stock photography this year.
Brian Yarvin
Stockphotos for agencies around the world
http://www.brianyarvin.com
Now in Edison NJ!
I hope that the list is going to be of value to all levels and kinds of
photographers, with a special eye to the publications of value to
stockphotographers. It will pain me if anything that is really good has
to be eliminated.; narrow focus this is not going to be.
And how, pray, do you isolate stock photographers from the need to
understand all aspects of photography? We are fully professional
photographers with an extra requirement laid on us, the need to
understand what constitutes a good stock photo, and what the market is
for that photo. This is something Brian Y understands well.
I will soon have a request in to the publishers of photography books so
that our bibliography can capture all of the latest titles. I don't
doubt I'll be looking for reviewers.....
The other Brian
Brian Yarvin wrote:
>>Didn't someone here say that books on technique were pointless (or
>>words to that effect) for stock photographers? I disagree - I'm always
>>willing to learn from someone expert in his field.
>>
>
>Anthony and Fellow Listreaders:
>
>I don't recall the comment that technique books were "pointless"
>but I was under the impression that Brian was looking for books on
>the Stock Photography business. I too, own many books on
>photographic technique and I refer to them all the time.
>
>My favorites?
>
>Photographic Facts and Formulas
>by Wall and Jordan
>
>Basic Photography
>by M.J. Langeford
>
>both are from Focal Press
>
>I also have heard that J. Barry O'Rourke and Micheal Keller are
>coming out with a new book on stock photography this year.
Klu Klux KlaN it is not, but I am somewhat sickened by an organization
that battens on to would-be photographers, marketing to them a variety
of paper products that make them out to be professionals. I suspect that
most photographers who have worked hard to earn the title
'professional', and who have won the status that gets them press passes,
don't like the profession cheapened by some guys who turn up with
inadequate skillsand a bit of fancy stationery printed by BFP.
I don't intend to be hard on people who want to become photographers. We
were all learners at some point. It is just that BFP seems to take
advantage of such people.
Brian Seed
Stock Photography Consultant
Antho...@aol.com wrote:
>Brian Seed writes, << I assume one has to join the obnoxious BFP in order to
>obtain their Market Handbook. A very high price to pay.>>
>
>I'm curious, Brian - why "obnoxious"? I find the BFP moderately useful, and
>while I agree it's not one of the world's great pro-photographer
>organisations, it doesn't rate like the Ku Klux Klan. Do tell.
>
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<< Someone has already recommended all of Langford's books and they will
be in the bibliography.It seems to me they are classics. >>
Dear Brian
He was also a nice guy.
I keep remembering other books. The latest editions of The "Writer's and
Artist's Yearbook" and "The Writer's Handbook" are both useful for finding
magazines and publishers to add to the database.
I used to have an invaluable exposure guide which had loads of stuff on
exposing for moonlight, bonfires, fireworks, red hot branding irons and
stuff. I've lost it now and would like another, or is there something on the
web?
Yours Bob
One technical book that seems to have been left off the list so far is Real
World Photoshop by David Blatner and Bruce Fraser. Of the four or five books
on Photoshop I've read this one is by far the most comprehensive. Especially
useful for preparing images for print. Their understanding of digital color
correction is unsurpassed. Written lightly but not light reading.
James Kline
James Kline Photography
Nevada City, CA
http://wideangledesign.com
architecture, ag, & stock
While I appreciate your point, I think many freelancers new to the business
(many of whom have already had plenty of experience with small magazines and
local newspapers) find the organization and its publications useful. Their
market newsletters are reasonably priced and contain useful leads (least the
few that I have seen). The book is also an inexpensive way to get a basic
client list. All that rubbish about their 'press card' is extremely daft,
but the usefullness of their annual directory cannot be denied. I buy a copy
most years and it has paid for itself many times over.
Regards,
Jon Mitchell
Director / Photographer
Light Room Photos
98 Washford Farm Road, Ashford, Kent TN23 5YD UK
m. +44 (0) 7866 760804
e. ligh...@btconnect.com
e. jonm...@onebox.com
i. www.alamy.com/lightroomphotos
Dear Brian
He was also a nice guy.
I keep remembering other books. The latest editions of The "Writer's and
Artist's Yearbook" and "The Writer's Handbook" are both useful for finding
magazines and publishers to add to the database.
I used to have an invaluable exposure guide which had loads of stuff on
exposing for moonlight, bonfires, fireworks, red hot branding irons and
stuff. I've lost it now and would like another, or is there something on the
web? >>
The Kodak Workshop Guide on Existing Light Photography is excellent for
this. There used to be a pocket version which was very handy, but mine
seems to have gone somewhere. My copies are very old, but as valuable as
ever. As I recall, I've never had a disappointing exposure by simply
following the tables in these books.
On a related topic, readers here will recall my confusion about getting
correct exposure using the auto exposure function on my Nikon FEs with 80B
filter and ESW. Turns out I had to go +1 to get correct exposure. (I find
auto-exp very handy for much of the table top stuff I do, and I like to see
the lighting effects that are much easier to obtain with small quartz lamps
than with my studio flash units.)
I've since run this exposure test with Velvia, both in an FE and F3.
Same results. Meter through the filter and dial in +1 on auto.
John T. Fowler
Photography for Education
http://www.magma.ca/~jfowler
www.agefotostock.com/cgi-ole/ageweb.fotografos?lang=ingles&key1=JTF&key2=Joh
n%20Fowler
SAPIENS QUI VIGILAT
Bob, probably not as comprehensive, but try the PDF here, a useful table at
least!!
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/consumer/products/techInfo/ac61/
Ian.
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Ian Leonard.
Wiltshire,
UK.
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