Oops, a little quick off the mark hitting send there :P
See below for the completed message.
On Mar 16, 2012 10:59 PM, "Kwah" <kwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps at the risk over-zealously pushing forth my own opinion, I'll
share my experiences with the group with the hope that perhaps others might
+1 it or prompt others to share their own thoughts.
> Personally, I have been following the list for quite a while (I'm too
lazy to go check ;) ). At the beginning I had the best of intentions -
Birmingham Hack Space looks pretty darned cool and interesting and for
about for or five months I had every intention of coming along. For those
four or five months, for one reason or another, I wasn't able to make any
of the sessions that I became aware of.
> Now, my situation is that although I would love to come attend the
initial magic / spark has disappeared and there is some
> knowing that many of you guys and gals have years of experience both in
the trades and as hobbyists. In other words, I have a limited amount that
would be able to (confidently) contribute.
> To put this into context, I am a student (happy to discuss off-list).
> Whilst I realise that, in reality, if I were to just turn up at a season
I would be warmly welcomed, outside pressures and the initial apprehension
are still there. It is
It is worth noting that this isn't specific to Hack Space, however. I have
no doubt that this would apply to any other organisation.
It is also worth mentioning that I am yet to actually attend any sessions,
so none of the above is in reference to the sessions themselves.
I do wonder how useful / relevant this message will be, given those two
points. Hopefully it will of some use at some point along the way :)
I'll try and make more of an effort to come to sessions in the near future
even if it is just to say hi :)
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> there's been a lot of debate in the weekly Maker sessions recently about
what people want to get out of fizzPOP and what people are willing and able
to commit to make that happen. This was partly prompted by Dominic visiting
us for the last Show & Tell (thanks Dominic!) and his stories of how
Nottinghack has grown over the last few years. Partly though, the
discussion has been driven by the low turn-out we've had at the weekly
meetings and a continued desire that several people have to find premises
>> So, to open this discussion up to those of you who weren't able to come
to the last few weekly meetings we are going to do two things. Firstly,
there will be a fizzPOP AGM (or EGM, depending on your view) in the same
time-slot we would normally have the Show and Tell for this month -- 7.30
Wed March 28th. We'll meet up at Cafe Soya, rather than the Edge, and move
onto a local pub if we need more time. Nearer the time I'll post an agenda
here. In particular though, we have some interesting opportunities
regarding premises that Leroy and I want to put to fizzPOP members.
>> Of course, some of you will have commitments elsewhere and won't be
able to make that meeting, so I'd like to also invite you to discuss the
future of fizzPOP on this thread, so that everyone who wants a say has a
chance to voice their views. To get you started, here are a few of the
things we've discussed in the weekly sessions, in summary. Hopefully
members who were at those meetings can correct any views I've
>> Low turn-out at maker sessions.
>> We haven't had a great turn-out recently, and most people seem to agree
that we are currently in a situation where the "offering" we are able to
make perhaps isn't high enough to bring in a larger number of members.
Several people thought that that could be resolved if we had more of a
permanent workshop with equipment that was available to members.
>> Workshops and income
>> We haven't had much in the way of workshops recently, which has also
meant that income has been quite low, usually just enough to cover our
current rent. The major reason for this is that Leroy and I haven't had as
much time available for fizzPOP as we might have liked (due to work
commitments), so things like this have fallen off the radar a bit. Also,
workshops can work very well, but they need a bit of organising and a big
marketing push to drive people to them, which leads to the next point...
>> At the moment it's just myself and Leroy organising pretty much
everything. Other UK hackerspaces have an arrangement whereby a "board of
trustees" runs everything (often "limited by guarantee" and insured, so
no-one will lose their mortgage if the group runs into problems). Having a
Board like this means that the workload of the organisers is spread much
more thinly over more people, making it a bit more feasible to organise
more activities. Most jobs that need doing in the end are not onerous in
themselves, but there's a lot of them if we want to be more active.
>> So... over to you. What would you like to see fizzPOP doing over the
next few months and what would you be willing to commit to make that happen?
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