there's been a lot of debate in the weekly Maker sessions recently about what people want to get out of fizzPOP and what people are willing and able to commit to make that happen. This was partly prompted by Dominic visiting us for the last Show & Tell (thanks Dominic!) and his stories of how Nottinghack has grown over the last few years. Partly though, the discussion has been driven by the low turn-out we've had at the weekly meetings and a continued desire that several people have to find premises for fizzPOP.
So, to open this discussion up to those of you who weren't able to come to the last few weekly meetings we are going to do two things. Firstly, there will be a fizzPOP AGM (or EGM, depending on your view) in the same time-slot we would normally have the Show and Tell for this month -- 7.30 Wed March 28th. We'll meet up at Cafe Soya, rather than the Edge, and move onto a local pub if we need more time. Nearer the time I'll post an agenda here. In particular though, we have some interesting opportunities regarding premises that Leroy and I want to put to fizzPOP members.
Of course, some of you will have commitments elsewhere and won't be able to make that meeting, so I'd like to also invite you to discuss the future of fizzPOP on this thread, so that everyone who wants a say has a chance to voice their views. To get you started, here are a few of the things we've discussed in the weekly sessions, in summary. Hopefully members who were at those meetings can correct any views I've misrepresented here...
*Low turn-out at maker sessions. *
We haven't had a great turn-out recently, and most people seem to agree that we are currently in a situation where the "offering" we are able to make perhaps isn't high enough to bring in a larger number of members. Several people thought that that could be resolved if we had more of a permanent workshop with equipment that was available to members.
*Workshops and income*
We haven't had much in the way of workshops recently, which has also meant that income has been quite low, usually just enough to cover our current rent. The major reason for this is that Leroy and I haven't had as much time available for fizzPOP as we might have liked (due to work commitments), so things like this have fallen off the radar a bit. Also, workshops can work very well, but they need a bit of organising and a big marketing push to drive people to them, which leads to the next point...
*Organisation*
At the moment it's just myself and Leroy organising pretty much everything. Other UK hackerspaces have an arrangement whereby a "board of trustees" runs everything (often "limited by guarantee" and insured, so no-one will lose their mortgage if the group runs into problems). Having a Board like this means that the workload of the organisers is spread much more thinly over more people, making it a bit more feasible to organise more activities. Most jobs that need doing in the end are not onerous in themselves, but there's a lot of them if we want to be more active.
So... over to you. What would you like to see fizzPOP doing over the next few months and what would you be willing to commit to make that happen?
Perhaps at the risk over-zealously pushing forth my own opinion, I'll share my experiences with the group with the hope that perhaps others might +1 it or prompt others to share their own thoughts.
Personally, I have been following the list for quite a while (I'm too lazy to go check ;) ). At the beginning I had the best of intentions - Birmingham Hack Space looks pretty darned cool and interesting and for about for or five months I had every intention of coming along. For those four or five months, for one reason or another, I wasn't able to make any of the sessions that I became aware of.
Now, my situation is that although I would love to come attend the initial magic / spark has disappeared and there is some hesitation/apprehension knowing that many of you guys and gals have years of experience both in the trades and as hobbyists. In other words, I have a limited amount that would be able to (confidently) contribute. To put this into context, I am a student (happy to discuss off-list).
Whilst I realise that, in reality, if I were to just turn up at a season I would be warmly welcomed, outside pressures and the initial apprehension are still there. It is with On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> there's been a lot of debate in the weekly Maker sessions recently about > what people want to get out of fizzPOP and what people are willing and able > to commit to make that happen. This was partly prompted by Dominic visiting > us for the last Show & Tell (thanks Dominic!) and his stories of how > Nottinghack has grown over the last few years. Partly though, the > discussion has been driven by the low turn-out we've had at the weekly > meetings and a continued desire that several people have to find premises > for fizzPOP.
> So, to open this discussion up to those of you who weren't able to come to > the last few weekly meetings we are going to do two things. Firstly, there > will be a fizzPOP AGM (or EGM, depending on your view) in the same > time-slot we would normally have the Show and Tell for this month -- 7.30 > Wed March 28th. We'll meet up at Cafe Soya, rather than the Edge, and move > onto a local pub if we need more time. Nearer the time I'll post an agenda > here. In particular though, we have some interesting opportunities > regarding premises that Leroy and I want to put to fizzPOP members.
> Of course, some of you will have commitments elsewhere and won't be able > to make that meeting, so I'd like to also invite you to discuss the future > of fizzPOP on this thread, so that everyone who wants a say has a chance to > voice their views. To get you started, here are a few of the things we've > discussed in the weekly sessions, in summary. Hopefully members who were at > those meetings can correct any views I've misrepresented here...
> *Low turn-out at maker sessions. *
> We haven't had a great turn-out recently, and most people seem to agree > that we are currently in a situation where the "offering" we are able to > make perhaps isn't high enough to bring in a larger number of members. > Several people thought that that could be resolved if we had more of a > permanent workshop with equipment that was available to members.
> *Workshops and income*
> We haven't had much in the way of workshops recently, which has also meant > that income has been quite low, usually just enough to cover our current > rent. The major reason for this is that Leroy and I haven't had as much > time available for fizzPOP as we might have liked (due to work > commitments), so things like this have fallen off the radar a bit. Also, > workshops can work very well, but they need a bit of organising and a big > marketing push to drive people to them, which leads to the next point...
> *Organisation*
> At the moment it's just myself and Leroy organising pretty much > everything. Other UK hackerspaces have an arrangement whereby a "board of > trustees" runs everything (often "limited by guarantee" and insured, so > no-one will lose their mortgage if the group runs into problems). Having a > Board like this means that the workload of the organisers is spread much > more thinly over more people, making it a bit more feasible to organise > more activities. Most jobs that need doing in the end are not onerous in > themselves, but there's a lot of them if we want to be more active.
> So... over to you. What would you like to see fizzPOP doing over the next > few months and what would you be willing to commit to make that happen?
> Cheers,
> Sarah
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Nice to meet you! You will certainly be warmly welcomed at any of our meetings. Of course, members are all experts in their own areas, but one of the nice things about hackerspaces is that they give people a chance to try out new skills that they wouldn't pursue professionally and aren't necessarily "good" at. You'll know what I mean if you ever see me with a soldering iron ;-)
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 22:59, Kwah <kwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps at the risk over-zealously pushing forth my own opinion, I'll share > my experiences with the group with the hope that perhaps others might +1 it > or prompt others to share their own thoughts.
> Personally, I have been following the list for quite a while (I'm too lazy > to go check ;) ). At the beginning I had the best of intentions - Birmingham > Hack Space looks pretty darned cool and interesting and for about for or > five months I had every intention of coming along. For those four or five > months, for one reason or another, I wasn't able to make any of the sessions > that I became aware of.
> Now, my situation is that although I would love to come attend the initial > magic / spark has disappeared and there is some hesitation/apprehension > knowing that many of you guys and gals have years of experience both in the > trades and as hobbyists. In other words, I have a limited amount that would > be able to (confidently) contribute. > To put this into context, I am a student (happy to discuss off-list).
> Whilst I realise that, in reality, if I were to just turn up at a season I > would be warmly welcomed, outside pressures and the initial apprehension are > still there. It is with
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> there's been a lot of debate in the weekly Maker sessions recently about >> what people want to get out of fizzPOP and what people are willing and able >> to commit to make that happen. This was partly prompted by Dominic visiting >> us for the last Show & Tell (thanks Dominic!) and his stories of how >> Nottinghack has grown over the last few years. Partly though, the discussion >> has been driven by the low turn-out we've had at the weekly meetings and a >> continued desire that several people have to find premises for fizzPOP.
>> So, to open this discussion up to those of you who weren't able to come to >> the last few weekly meetings we are going to do two things. Firstly, there >> will be a fizzPOP AGM (or EGM, depending on your view) in the same time-slot >> we would normally have the Show and Tell for this month -- 7.30 Wed March >> 28th. We'll meet up at Cafe Soya, rather than the Edge, and move onto a >> local pub if we need more time. Nearer the time I'll post an agenda here. In >> particular though, we have some interesting opportunities regarding premises >> that Leroy and I want to put to fizzPOP members.
>> Of course, some of you will have commitments elsewhere and won't be able >> to make that meeting, so I'd like to also invite you to discuss the future >> of fizzPOP on this thread, so that everyone who wants a say has a chance to >> voice their views. To get you started, here are a few of the things we've >> discussed in the weekly sessions, in summary. Hopefully members who were at >> those meetings can correct any views I've misrepresented here...
>> Low turn-out at maker sessions.
>> We haven't had a great turn-out recently, and most people seem to agree >> that we are currently in a situation where the "offering" we are able to >> make perhaps isn't high enough to bring in a larger number of members. >> Several people thought that that could be resolved if we had more of a >> permanent workshop with equipment that was available to members.
>> Workshops and income
>> We haven't had much in the way of workshops recently, which has also meant >> that income has been quite low, usually just enough to cover our current >> rent. The major reason for this is that Leroy and I haven't had as much time >> available for fizzPOP as we might have liked (due to work commitments), so >> things like this have fallen off the radar a bit. Also, workshops can work >> very well, but they need a bit of organising and a big marketing push to >> drive people to them, which leads to the next point...
>> Organisation
>> At the moment it's just myself and Leroy organising pretty much >> everything. Other UK hackerspaces have an arrangement whereby a "board of >> trustees" runs everything (often "limited by guarantee" and insured, so >> no-one will lose their mortgage if the group runs into problems). Having a >> Board like this means that the workload of the organisers is spread much >> more thinly over more people, making it a bit more feasible to organise more >> activities. Most jobs that need doing in the end are not onerous in >> themselves, but there's a lot of them if we want to be more active.
>> So... over to you. What would you like to see fizzPOP doing over the next >> few months and what would you be willing to commit to make that happen?
>> Cheers,
>> Sarah
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Oops, a little quick off the mark hitting send there :P
See below for the completed message.
On Mar 16, 2012 10:59 PM, "Kwah" <kwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps at the risk over-zealously pushing forth my own opinion, I'll
share my experiences with the group with the hope that perhaps others might +1 it or prompt others to share their own thoughts.
> Personally, I have been following the list for quite a while (I'm too
lazy to go check ;) ). At the beginning I had the best of intentions - Birmingham Hack Space looks pretty darned cool and interesting and for about for or five months I had every intention of coming along. For those four or five months, for one reason or another, I wasn't able to make any of the sessions that I became aware of.
> Now, my situation is that although I would love to come attend the
initial magic / spark has disappeared and there is some hesitation/apprehension
> knowing that many of you guys and gals have years of experience both in
the trades and as hobbyists. In other words, I have a limited amount that would be able to (confidently) contribute.
> To put this into context, I am a student (happy to discuss off-list).
> Whilst I realise that, in reality, if I were to just turn up at a season
I would be warmly welcomed, outside pressures and the initial apprehension are still there. It is
It is worth noting that this isn't specific to Hack Space, however. I have no doubt that this would apply to any other organisation.
It is also worth mentioning that I am yet to actually attend any sessions, so none of the above is in reference to the sessions themselves.
I do wonder how useful / relevant this message will be, given those two points. Hopefully it will of some use at some point along the way :)
I'll try and make more of an effort to come to sessions in the near future even if it is just to say hi :)
Roger
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> there's been a lot of debate in the weekly Maker sessions recently about
what people want to get out of fizzPOP and what people are willing and able to commit to make that happen. This was partly prompted by Dominic visiting us for the last Show & Tell (thanks Dominic!) and his stories of how Nottinghack has grown over the last few years. Partly though, the discussion has been driven by the low turn-out we've had at the weekly meetings and a continued desire that several people have to find premises for fizzPOP.
>> So, to open this discussion up to those of you who weren't able to come
to the last few weekly meetings we are going to do two things. Firstly, there will be a fizzPOP AGM (or EGM, depending on your view) in the same time-slot we would normally have the Show and Tell for this month -- 7.30 Wed March 28th. We'll meet up at Cafe Soya, rather than the Edge, and move onto a local pub if we need more time. Nearer the time I'll post an agenda here. In particular though, we have some interesting opportunities regarding premises that Leroy and I want to put to fizzPOP members.
>> Of course, some of you will have commitments elsewhere and won't be
able to make that meeting, so I'd like to also invite you to discuss the future of fizzPOP on this thread, so that everyone who wants a say has a chance to voice their views. To get you started, here are a few of the things we've discussed in the weekly sessions, in summary. Hopefully members who were at those meetings can correct any views I've misrepresented here...
>> Low turn-out at maker sessions.
>> We haven't had a great turn-out recently, and most people seem to agree
that we are currently in a situation where the "offering" we are able to make perhaps isn't high enough to bring in a larger number of members. Several people thought that that could be resolved if we had more of a permanent workshop with equipment that was available to members.
>> Workshops and income
>> We haven't had much in the way of workshops recently, which has also
meant that income has been quite low, usually just enough to cover our current rent. The major reason for this is that Leroy and I haven't had as much time available for fizzPOP as we might have liked (due to work commitments), so things like this have fallen off the radar a bit. Also, workshops can work very well, but they need a bit of organising and a big marketing push to drive people to them, which leads to the next point...
>> Organisation
>> At the moment it's just myself and Leroy organising pretty much
everything. Other UK hackerspaces have an arrangement whereby a "board of trustees" runs everything (often "limited by guarantee" and insured, so no-one will lose their mortgage if the group runs into problems). Having a Board like this means that the workload of the organisers is spread much more thinly over more people, making it a bit more feasible to organise more activities. Most jobs that need doing in the end are not onerous in themselves, but there's a lot of them if we want to be more active.
>> So... over to you. What would you like to see fizzPOP doing over the
next few months and what would you be willing to commit to make that happen?
>> Cheers,
>> Sarah
>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Nice to meet you! You will certainly be warmly welcomed at any of our > meetings. Of course, members are all experts in their own areas, but > one of the nice things about hackerspaces is that they give people a > chance to try out new skills that they wouldn't pursue professionally > and aren't necessarily "good" at. You'll know what I mean if you ever > see me with a soldering iron ;-)
> Cheers,
> Sarah
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 22:59, Kwah <kwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Perhaps at the risk over-zealously pushing forth my own opinion, I'll > share > > my experiences with the group with the hope that perhaps others might +1 > it > > or prompt others to share their own thoughts.
> > Personally, I have been following the list for quite a while (I'm too > lazy > > to go check ;) ). At the beginning I had the best of intentions - > Birmingham > > Hack Space looks pretty darned cool and interesting and for about for or > > five months I had every intention of coming along. For those four or five > > months, for one reason or another, I wasn't able to make any of the > sessions > > that I became aware of.
> > Now, my situation is that although I would love to come attend the > initial > > magic / spark has disappeared and there is some hesitation/apprehension > > knowing that many of you guys and gals have years of experience both in > the > > trades and as hobbyists. In other words, I have a limited amount that > would > > be able to (confidently) contribute. > > To put this into context, I am a student (happy to discuss off-list).
> > Whilst I realise that, in reality, if I were to just turn up at a season > I > > would be warmly welcomed, outside pressures and the initial apprehension > are > > still there. It is with
> > On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi everyone,
> >> there's been a lot of debate in the weekly Maker sessions recently about > >> what people want to get out of fizzPOP and what people are willing and > able > >> to commit to make that happen. This was partly prompted by Dominic > visiting > >> us for the last Show & Tell (thanks Dominic!) and his stories of how > >> Nottinghack has grown over the last few years. Partly though, the > discussion > >> has been driven by the low turn-out we've had at the weekly meetings > and a > >> continued desire that several people have to find premises for fizzPOP.
> >> So, to open this discussion up to those of you who weren't able to come > to > >> the last few weekly meetings we are going to do two things. Firstly, > there > >> will be a fizzPOP AGM (or EGM, depending on your view) in the same > time-slot > >> we would normally have the Show and Tell for this month -- 7.30 Wed > March > >> 28th. We'll meet up at Cafe Soya, rather than the Edge, and move onto a > >> local pub if we need more time. Nearer the time I'll post an agenda > here. In > >> particular though, we have some interesting opportunities regarding > premises > >> that Leroy and I want to put to fizzPOP members.
> >> Of course, some of you will have commitments elsewhere and won't be > able > >> to make that meeting, so I'd like to also invite you to discuss the > future > >> of fizzPOP on this thread, so that everyone who wants a say has a > chance to > >> voice their views. To get you started, here are a few of the things > we've > >> discussed in the weekly sessions, in summary. Hopefully members who > were at > >> those meetings can correct any views I've misrepresented here...
> >> Low turn-out at maker sessions.
> >> We haven't had a great turn-out recently, and most people seem to agree > >> that we are currently in a situation where the "offering" we are able to > >> make perhaps isn't high enough to bring in a larger number of members. > >> Several people thought that that could be resolved if we had more of a > >> permanent workshop with equipment that was available to members.
> >> Workshops and income
> >> We haven't had much in the way of workshops recently, which has also > meant > >> that income has been quite low, usually just enough to cover our current > >> rent. The major reason for this is that Leroy and I haven't had as much > time > >> available for fizzPOP as we might have liked (due to work commitments), > so > >> things like this have fallen off the radar a bit. Also, workshops can > work > >> very well, but they need a bit of organising and a big marketing push to > >> drive people to them, which leads to the next point...
> >> Organisation
> >> At the moment it's just myself and Leroy organising pretty much > >> everything. Other UK hackerspaces have an arrangement whereby a "board > of > >> trustees" runs everything (often "limited by guarantee" and insured, so > >> no-one will lose their mortgage if the group runs into problems). > Having a > >> Board like this means that the workload of the organisers is spread much > >> more thinly over more people, making it a bit more feasible to organise > more > >> activities. Most jobs that need doing in the end are not onerous in > >> themselves, but there's a lot of them if we want to be more active.
> >> So... over to you. What would you like to see fizzPOP doing over the > next > >> few months and what would you be willing to commit to make that happen?
> >> Cheers,
> >> Sarah
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In the nicest possible way, can I add to what you've said about organisation? It's important to remember that it isn't just 'organisation' that describes what has to be done. For my part I've spent quite a bit of time writing code for themed evenings that have happened, as well as two workshops that haven't happened (inc. NMF). However, that pales into significance compared to Nigel's facilitation of fun discussions on life, the universe and everything, as well as the lockpicking :-)
Also all the people who've talked about their work at show'n'tell's, including your paranoid laptop, Antonio's pure data demo, Thomas's pyromaniacal arduino fun, and everyone else :-) Hopefully we're still going to do a processing (Android?) evening soon too? Plus, perhaps we should give everyone details of the events ideas we brainstormed last wednesday before the agm: hopefully James can elaborate as our tireless and expert facilitator?
That's just my opinion though and, as you know, I'll continue to do my best to help with the bums on seats issue as long as there's at least one other person there to talk techy to (sorry, that's often you ;) For me it's the people who turn up Wednesday nights who make fizzpop fizzpop :-) Even if we don't get more people I'll remember the fun conversations we've had at FP and the techie community it promoted :-)
Having said that, thank you very much for being the one person who's always there to open up and keep everything going well :-)
Best wishes,
Andrew. On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Absolutely. Of course, there's no way we can have workshops and all these different things if there isn't someone to volunteer to host them. Nigel and Kate in particular must have travelled the length of the country back and forward to get to Digbeth. And your proce55ing workshop is going to be ace :-) Thanks to all.
<portablecomput...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Sarah,
> In the nicest possible way, can I add to what you've said about > organisation? It's important to remember that it isn't just 'organisation' > that describes what has to be done. For my part I've spent quite a bit of > time writing code for themed evenings that have happened, as well as two > workshops that haven't happened (inc. NMF). However, that pales into > significance compared to Nigel's facilitation of fun discussions on life, > the universe and everything, as well as the lockpicking :-)
> Also all the people who've talked about their work at show'n'tell's, > including your paranoid laptop, Antonio's pure data demo, Thomas's > pyromaniacal arduino fun, and everyone else :-) Hopefully we're still going > to do a processing (Android?) evening soon too? Plus, perhaps we should give > everyone details of the events ideas we brainstormed last wednesday before > the agm: hopefully James can elaborate as our tireless and expert > facilitator?
> That's just my opinion though and, as you know, I'll continue to do my best > to help with the bums on seats issue as long as there's at least one other > person there to talk techy to (sorry, that's often you ;) For me it's the > people who turn up Wednesday nights who make fizzpop fizzpop :-) Even if we > don't get more people I'll remember the fun conversations we've had at FP > and the techie community it promoted :-)
> Having said that, thank you very much for being the one person who's always > there to open up and keep everything going well :-)
> Best wishes,
> Andrew.
> On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I've been unable to come to any meetings for the usual reason, hellish work issues (and being in tamworth doesn't help). However, I'll try to make the AGM.
On the point of funding, I, and maybe some others, would be happy to sign up to a monthly donation to FizzPop EVEN IF I DON'T USE IT. This might seem a little odd, but I would like Birmingham to have a proper hackspace, even if I can only drop in there very infrequently.
Of course, if we had our own hackspace location, then it would be somewhere when one could turn up whenever one had spare time, instead of having to 'try and make' specific times, and often fail. So for me if FizzPop goes through a 'growth' phase until it becomes big like Nottinghack (at which point perhaps I'll get more out of it) I'm fine with that.
Probably I should discuss this more on the day, hope to make it this time.
Colum
On 3/17/12, Sarah Mount <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Absolutely. Of course, there's no way we can have workshops and all > these different things if there isn't someone to volunteer to host > them. Nigel and Kate in particular must have travelled the length of > the country back and forward to get to Digbeth. And your proce55ing > workshop is going to be ace :-) Thanks to all.
> Sarah
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 00:16, Andrew Thomas > <portablecomput...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> Hi Sarah,
>> In the nicest possible way, can I add to what you've said about >> organisation? It's important to remember that it isn't just 'organisation' >> that describes what has to be done. For my part I've spent quite a bit of >> time writing code for themed evenings that have happened, as well as two >> workshops that haven't happened (inc. NMF). However, that pales into >> significance compared to Nigel's facilitation of fun discussions on life, >> the universe and everything, as well as the lockpicking :-)
>> Also all the people who've talked about their work at show'n'tell's, >> including your paranoid laptop, Antonio's pure data demo, Thomas's >> pyromaniacal arduino fun, and everyone else :-) Hopefully we're still >> going >> to do a processing (Android?) evening soon too? Plus, perhaps we should >> give >> everyone details of the events ideas we brainstormed last wednesday before >> the agm: hopefully James can elaborate as our tireless and expert >> facilitator?
>> That's just my opinion though and, as you know, I'll continue to do my >> best >> to help with the bums on seats issue as long as there's at least one other >> person there to talk techy to (sorry, that's often you ;) For me it's the >> people who turn up Wednesday nights who make fizzpop fizzpop :-) Even if >> we >> don't get more people I'll remember the fun conversations we've had at FP >> and the techie community it promoted :-)
>> Having said that, thank you very much for being the one person who's >> always >> there to open up and keep everything going well :-)
>> Best wishes,
>> Andrew.
>> On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Nice idea, I agree. I was thinking of asking at the agm whether we could do direct debit payment and so pay monthly subs instead of just paying for individual nights.
Best wishes,
Andrew. On Mar 19, 2012 11:56 AM, "Colum Paget" <colum.pa...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I've been unable to come to any meetings for the usual reason, hellish > work issues (and being in tamworth doesn't help). However, I'll try to > make the AGM.
> On the point of funding, I, and maybe some others, would be happy to > sign up to a monthly donation to FizzPop EVEN IF I DON'T USE IT. This > might seem a little odd, but I would like Birmingham to have a proper > hackspace, even if I can only drop in there very infrequently.
> Of course, if we had our own hackspace location, then it would be > somewhere when one could turn up whenever one had spare time, instead > of having to 'try and make' specific times, and often fail. So for me > if FizzPop goes through a 'growth' phase until it becomes big like > Nottinghack (at which point perhaps I'll get more out of it) I'm fine > with that.
> Probably I should discuss this more on the day, hope to make it this time.
> Colum
> On 3/17/12, Sarah Mount <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Absolutely. Of course, there's no way we can have workshops and all > > these different things if there isn't someone to volunteer to host > > them. Nigel and Kate in particular must have travelled the length of > > the country back and forward to get to Digbeth. And your proce55ing > > workshop is going to be ace :-) Thanks to all.
> > Sarah
> > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 00:16, Andrew Thomas > > <portablecomput...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sarah,
> >> In the nicest possible way, can I add to what you've said about > >> organisation? It's important to remember that it isn't just > 'organisation' > >> that describes what has to be done. For my part I've spent quite a bit > of > >> time writing code for themed evenings that have happened, as well as two > >> workshops that haven't happened (inc. NMF). However, that pales into > >> significance compared to Nigel's facilitation of fun discussions on > life, > >> the universe and everything, as well as the lockpicking :-)
> >> Also all the people who've talked about their work at show'n'tell's, > >> including your paranoid laptop, Antonio's pure data demo, Thomas's > >> pyromaniacal arduino fun, and everyone else :-) Hopefully we're still > >> going > >> to do a processing (Android?) evening soon too? Plus, perhaps we should > >> give > >> everyone details of the events ideas we brainstormed last wednesday > before > >> the agm: hopefully James can elaborate as our tireless and expert > >> facilitator?
> >> That's just my opinion though and, as you know, I'll continue to do my > >> best > >> to help with the bums on seats issue as long as there's at least one > other > >> person there to talk techy to (sorry, that's often you ;) For me it's > the > >> people who turn up Wednesday nights who make fizzpop fizzpop :-) Even if > >> we > >> don't get more people I'll remember the fun conversations we've had at > FP > >> and the techie community it promoted :-)
> >> Having said that, thank you very much for being the one person who's > >> always > >> there to open up and keep everything going well :-)
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Andrew.
> >> On Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM, "snim2" <mount.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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