[Birding-Aus] Black Fantail
Russ Lamb
It contained a photo and brief text about a bird named and captioned as a Black Fantail, which was in fact a Willie Wagtail (which the booklet gave as an italicized alternative name).
I can't remember ever coming across this name in any other Australian bird books.
Russ Lamb,Maleny,SEQ
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John & Ruth Walter
My previously mentioned CSIRO Index of Australian Bird names list the
following for Willie Wagtail.
"Australian Nightingale", black and white fantail, black and white
flycatcher,, frog bird, morning bird, shepherd's companion.
Cheers John
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Changing the thread slightly, found a booklet in the Australian natural
history section of a second-hand bookstore in Eumundi,SEQ called "Kodak's
Australian Animals" (or something like that).Wasn't dated but looked to me
to have been published around the 1930's.
It contained a photo and brief text about a bird named and captioned as
a Black Fantail, which was in fact a Willie Wagtail (which the booklet gave
as an italicized alternative name).
I can't remember ever coming across this name in any other Australian
bird books.
Russ Lamb,Maleny,SEQ
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Gemfyre
For a few months now I've been kept awake by a night owl of a Willie Wagtail
who seems to start calling at 9pm and finally shuts up at 7am.
Belinda
Stirling W.A.
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Alan McBride
The other GREAT BOOK that no one has mentioned during this entire thread (and that staggers me that you all either don't have one or don't use it) is a little known tome by a certain Neville W Cayley called What Bird is That.
Neville lists the latin and the derivation of names as done by a Mr H Wolstenholme of Sydney:
Willie Wagtail
Rhipidura leucophrys
leuc-o-phrys - Gk,
leucos - white: Gk,
phrys (phrus) - brow.
Far more interesting than common names anyway;-)
If you don't have one most 2nd hand bookshops will have half a dozen or so!
Best
Alan
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Alan
On 25/11/2009, at 12:41 , Tony Lawson wrote:
Please note , however, that only the hardback version of Cayley has this very useful information.
It is not in the paperback versions.
Tony
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Stephen Ambrose
Whittell 1976 [Birds of Western Australia (UWA Press, Perth)] provide
Aboriginal names for many birds species that occur in Western Australia.
Unfortunately, they do not provide Aboriginal names for the Black-necked
Stork.
While on the subject of the Willie Wagtail, Serventy & Whittell list the
following Aboriginal names:
Jind-ril (Godfrey's Tank, Canning Stock Route), Chitti-chitti (Coolawanyah &
Palinup River), Chee-ri-gal (North West Cape), Jindy-jindy (Lyons River),
Tjittee tjitee (Jigalong), Chindi-chindil (Warburton Range), Wil-ar-ing,
Wil-laring (Perth)and Jit-te-jit-te (Avon River).
Stephen Ambrose
Ryde, NSW
Tony Lawson
very useful information.
It is not in the paperback versions.
Tony
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Greg Little
Leach, An Australian Bird Book (my copy is 1950) is another interesting
early Australian field guide, not as popular as Cayleys, he also called
the Willy Wagtail the Black and White Fantail. Leachs book has lots of
interesting information but the colour reproductions are terrible.
Greg Little
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Hi all,
Best
Alan
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Michael Tarburton
Black Fantail was a name given by Gould to the Willie - according to
Macdonald "Australian Birds by Common Name"
Caley also uses the names:
Black & White Fantail
Shepherd's Companion
Willy Wagtail
SO it does not matter whether you spell it Willie or Willy - I like that
Cheers
Mike
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On 24/11/2009, at 10:22 PM, Russ Lamb wrote:
> Changing the thread slightly, found a booklet in the Australian
> natural history section of a second-hand bookstore in Eumundi,SEQ
> called "Kodak's Australian Animals" (or something like that).Wasn't
> dated but looked to me to have been published around the 1930's.
> It contained a photo and brief text about a bird named and
> captioned as a Black Fantail, which was in fact a Willie Wagtail
> (which the booklet gave as an italicized alternative name).
> I can't remember ever coming across this name in any other
> Australian bird books.
>
> Russ Lamb,Maleny,SEQ
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Paul Doyle
Rhipidura motacilloides (tricolor).
Why 'tricolor' I wonder: surely it should be 'bicolor'?
Paul.
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