[Birding-Aus] Bird recording equipment - Minidisc?

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Colin Trainor

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May 14, 2008, 11:43:28 PM5/14/08
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Hi all,

I'd like to update my recording equipment for bird calls.

I currently use a large-heavy Sony Professional Recorder with Sennheiser
ME 66 Mic.

I'd like something lighter, with long battery time (and preferably AA
batts and nothing chargeable for long field visits of >3 weeks), and can
record up to 10 hrs or so.

I've looked on the internet (and Birding Aus archives) for Minidisc
recorders and then Hi-MD recorders, but these seem to be heading towards
extinction.

Is there something small, light and new on the market to replace
Minidiscs.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Colin Trainor
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Colin Trainor

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May 15, 2008, 3:50:37 AM5/15/08
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Hi all,

Based on Carl's suggestion, I've honed in on the Sony PCM-D50 handheld
audio recorder.

I've read some reviews, but not by birders.

Does anyone have comments on this recorded, with external mic, for
recording birds.

Thanks,

Colin

Russell Woodford

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May 15, 2008, 9:15:37 AM5/15/08
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I have a Sharp Minidisc MD-MT200. I've used it mainly for recording
student performances, where a good quality audio recording is needed
without having to lug equipment from venue to venue.
It's powered by a li-ion rechargable battery, but it also has a
battery pack so I can use rechargeable AAs - much more convenient.
THere is a 5v DC input as well. This model has a long play feature and
I've been very impressed with its quality and ease of use. I bought a
couple of small microphones, one mono, one stereo - they are
incredibly sensitive, but clearly not as good as a top range
directional mic. Sony make a good stereo mic that plugs into the unit
without the need for cables. This model also has an optical line-in
socket. Its portability is one of the best features - it all packs
up, cables, spare batteries, 3 or 4 spare disks, and fits into a
medium sized digital camera case.

My only disappointment is that this unit doesn't record in MP3 format,
and I can't do a data dump to my computer - all recording and playback
has to be in real time.

You can still buy these units new, but they are usually overpriced and
hard to find. I got mine on eBay for about $150. It had been used for
a research project and wasn't needed any more. At the time I bought
mine it was about twice that for a new one. I've seen blank discs at
big electrical chainstores - often in the bargain bin!

Good luck - they are great little devices.


Russell Woodford
Birding-Aus List Owner
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Geelong Victoria Australia
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On 15/05/2008, at 1:43 PM, Colin Trainor wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to update my recording equipment for bird calls.
>
> I currently use a large-heavy Sony Professional Recorder with
> Sennheiser
> ME 66 Mic.
>
> I'd like something lighter, with long battery time (and preferably AA
> batts and nothing chargeable for long field visits of >3 weeks), and
> can
> record up to 10 hrs or so.
>
> I've looked on the internet (and Birding Aus archives) for Minidisc
> recorders and then Hi-MD recorders, but these seem to be heading
> towards
> extinction.
>
> Is there something small, light and new on the market to replace
> Minidiscs.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Colin Trainor

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Andrew Taylor

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May 15, 2008, 6:44:12 PM5/15/08
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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:20:37PM +0930, Colin Trainor wrote:
> Based on Carl's suggestion, I've honed in on the Sony PCM-D50 handheld
> audio recorder. I've read some reviews, but not by birders.
> Does anyone have comments on this recorded, with external mic, for
> recording birds.

Raimund Specht, who really knows what he is talking abou,t has
has good info on nature recording equipment here:
http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_field_recording.htm
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm

You should compare with the Fostex FR-2LE, the Olympus LS-10 and
Marantzs. You can often get good prices on ebay - if you are willing
to buy there. I have seen little about the Sony but you could search
the naturerecordist list archives:
http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/html/naturerecordists/
or ask on the list. If you aren't using an external preamp, the noise
floor of the recorder preamp is important in nature recording.

Andrew

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Natalia Atkins

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May 17, 2008, 6:20:20 AM5/17/08
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Hi Colin,

There are a lot of options, but if you want something really great that is
not too expensive, have a look at the Iriver H340 (Iriver is the brand
name, h340 is the model name) . Its a MP3/ hard disk recorder with a
connector for an external Mic as well as very decent inbuilt mic.

They cost about $300 on ebay second hand, with a 40GB Internal hard drive
(that is replaceable). It has a line input (mini-RCA jack) and it will work
well with your Seinheiser Mic if you get a female XLR to male minijack
convertor (thats what I use with my Sennheiser mic)

This particular model of MP3 player is highly sought after by DJ's for
recording their live music sets in a high quality format. They are very
fiddley about quality and the Iriver h340 is the one they all use.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,
Bel

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