Re: [Birding-Aus] House Crows and ticking ethics
Evan Beaver
Tony that seems to allow escapees and releases. But, as I've said
before, tick what ever you see fit, it's your list, no-one else
(should) care what's on it.
I however won't be ticking it, and hope that it's destroyed before
slinking off to find the rest of the House Crow secret society, lying
in wait for sufficient numbers to arrive and begin breeding, and
fulfil their ultimate goal of destroying all native avifauna.
EB
On 3/27/08, Tony Russell <prati...@esc.net.au> wrote:
My stance is that if the bird is in Oz, no matter how it got here,
then it's tickable, and no amount of contention as to it's mode of
travel is relevant.
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Tony Russell
even escapes or releases establish viable populations, we have to admit
them to our listings. Hence dear old Starlings, Sparrows, Mynas,
Goldfinches, Greenfinches, Blackbirds etc etc are all now included
because we can't get rid of them and it's foolish to ignore them.
T.
Chris Sanderson
I think Evan's point isn't that you left them out of your discussion, but
more do you have a reliable way of telling which is which? For example, how
do you know someone didn't have a pet House Crow that escaped? Bad example
probably but if I told you there was a Blue and Yellow Macaw flying around
in my back yard would you come and tick it? What about a Java Sparrow? Or
something really contentious like a Blue Rock Thrush?
I think it's important for each odd bird that is found to have the potential
that it's a caged bird that has been released or escaped assessed. Which as
I understand is pretty much what we already do.
Regards,
Chris
ps. while I agree with Evan about putting what you want on your list, that
only works if you're not competing with other twitchers. If you are you
need to use the same rules or it's not fair.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Tony Russell <prati...@esc.net.au>
wrote:
Tony Russell
assisted, released, or whatever, is a pointless effort. Very rarely,
except at least with a normally caged fancier bird, has anyone any idea
how a bird might have got here. Of course a thundering great escape like
your Macaw is unlikely to be considered tickable, one has to use some
discretion, but birds not kept by fanciers have to be given
consideration.
Java Sparrow ? Yes. on my list from Christmas Island.
Blue Rock Thrush ? Couldn't get there because I was still working full
time, but I would have counted it if I had been able to get there and
see it. Just like others who saw it did.
T.
Carl Clifford
appropriate notes, e.g. ? aviary escapee. Whether you report it to
anyone is up to yourself.
Carl Clifford
Tony Russell
Alistair McKeough
get of your backside and see the thing mate!
So, you can't forget about taking the "ship assisted" high horse for a
canter on this one. Back into the stable please. If you saw it you'd tick
it.
Bergh!
Evan Beaver
authorities, then not tick it.
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Evan Beaver
Lapstone, Blue Mountains, NSW
lat=-33.77, lon=150.64
Alistair McKeough
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