Looking at an IT career
Mr Nobody
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"FIZBAN" <elms...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "DragonLass" <drago...@hotmail.com> insanly scibbled mush that sounded
> like:
>
> > Without experience in the industry you'll find it hard to find a job
that
> > pays that well. You'd be looking at a 25-30K salary to begin with.
> > My best advice would be to 'do some time' in computer related customer
> > service, such as for an ISP (eg Telstra). These jobs pay fairly well,
and
> > although are horrid jobs to work at, if you tough it out for 12-18
months
> > alot of doors will open up.
>
>
> Thats the thing, Where do i start?
> 25 to 30 is really no worse than what i am currently doing!
> People think that "Tradies" earn quite a bit, Well, i have news for them
;)
>
> The next question, How do i start?
> I've spent so long behind a brush, i have no idea, Thats why i ask here!
>
> Cheers
>
> Evan
>
>
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> "He flies like a maroon!"
Paul
different things all the time rather than the same boring monotonous job
like you'd have to do starting out in an office though
Paul
experience in your free time
FIZBAN
As an Older (?????) person, Yes even at 27 i see myself as older in this
profession, I dont have year 12, but year 11, Been piss farting with PC's
since the old Amstrad 464's, so i kind of know my way around, i can learn
anything i'm shown, and am always keen to learn more.
I have only ever finished my apprenticship as a painter and decorator just to
make money to survive basically, and i deperatley want out of a profession
that is eventually going to kill me! (If you saw what i deal with every day,
you wouldn't see that as an exaggeration)
So what can i do?
School?, maybe, but i would prefer to leave what im doing ASAP.
Traineeship?, well, that won't pay the mortgage.
Can anyone think of a "serious" option?
Or will i be a geek stuck in a dead end for the rest of my life with a bunch
of people that have NO IDEA what im on about when i talk of my interests?
Really, I would appreciate some serious thoughts here, I know im capable,
with a high capacity to learn.
cheers
Ev
FIZBAN
> being a tradey though would be good to work outside all day be doing
> different things all the time rather than the same boring monotonous job
> like you'd have to do starting out in an office though
>
Thing is, Im sick of the outdoor stuff, 2 skin cancers already, and god knows
what else from the chemicals i use is enough!
A desk job?, Sounds safe enough to me!
Ev
Paul
DragonLass
pays that well. You'd be looking at a 25-30K salary to begin with.
My best advice would be to 'do some time' in computer related customer
service, such as for an ISP (eg Telstra). These jobs pay fairly well, and
although are horrid jobs to work at, if you tough it out for 12-18 months
alot of doors will open up.
"FIZBAN" <elms...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Francis
They do, providing they are running their own business and that biz is in demand..
FIZBAN
like:
> Without experience in the industry you'll find it hard to find a job that
> pays that well. You'd be looking at a 25-30K salary to begin with.
> My best advice would be to 'do some time' in computer related customer
> service, such as for an ISP (eg Telstra). These jobs pay fairly well, and
> although are horrid jobs to work at, if you tough it out for 12-18 months
> alot of doors will open up.
Thats the thing, Where do i start?
25 to 30 is really no worse than what i am currently doing!
People think that "Tradies" earn quite a bit, Well, i have news for them ;)
The next question, How do i start?
I've spent so long behind a brush, i have no idea, Thats why i ask here!
Cheers
Evan
DragonLass
(http://www.teletechintl.com/careers/about_teletech.htm) and see if they
have any openings in tech support.
If you're in Sydney you could also try Ozemail, Hutchison. In Melb there's
iPrimus and a bunch of others.
Take a look at jobnet.com.au and seek.com.au and look for helpdesk jobs.
Maybe even get in touch with an IT recruitment place (although personally I
can't stand the filthy leeches, but unfortunately most IT jobs go through an
agency).
"FIZBAN" <elms...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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FIZBAN
like:
> well, get in touch with Teletech
> (http://www.teletechintl.com/careers/about_teletech.htm) and see if they
> have any openings in tech support.
> If you're in Sydney you could also try Ozemail, Hutchison. In Melb
> there's iPrimus and a bunch of others.
> Take a look at jobnet.com.au and seek.com.au and look for helpdesk jobs.
> Maybe even get in touch with an IT recruitment place (although personally
> I can't stand the filthy leeches, but unfortunately most IT jobs go
> through an agency).
>
Thanks so much for that!
I really do appreciate that :)
I'll assume you're in Sydnet, so when im up there next, I'll p-aint your
kitchen :)
Steve
industry in some way. Anyway, after working for a hospital just doing mail
delivery for a few months I made it known I was interested in computers. One
of the people there told me a position was going in a different section for
Tech Support Help Desk. I went for this and started there. I quickly moved
into hands-on tech support when they realised my skills were way better than
my phone manner :)
Anyway, after a year or so it turned out that my position might disappear so
I decided to bite the bullet and go to university and get a degree in IT. I
was 26. Turns out my position would have still been available but I'm glad I
went to uni. The job prospects for me were excellent and I now work in
Computer Forensics. Starting salary when I graduated was over $40k and I'm
up for a promotion that'll get me near the 50s. I could do better in the
private sector but am happy where I am.
So, try to get qualifications if you can. I was lucky and didn't have any
loans over my head. Consider moving back with your folks or something, no
matter how bad that sounds. You REALLY need qualifications to get your
application even looked at. Of course, after this they want experience too.
It's kind of a vicious circle.
Where are your interests? Mine were in networking and I ended up being a
Network Admin for the cops before this job now. I just tried to learn as
much as I could about what interested me. Find out what's used in the
industry. What sort of staff are needed? Perhaps get an MCSE or Cisco
certification. I got Novell certification and it's nice to have on your CV.
"FIZBAN" <elms...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Jeff Spicolli
find that the majority of IT Managers will take Experiance over
qualifications anyday. We hired a girl who had a Computer Science degree,
but did not know what a gateway was or the difference between Dial up
networking and LAN sheesh...
I would rather put m money into Vendor courses for training purposes only,
you get a Certification of participation and thats it, but at least you will
be taught something.
My two cents :)
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Steve
"Jeff Spicolli" <some-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There is a little more to IT than a crash course and certificate. You will
> find that the majority of IT Managers will take Experiance over
> qualifications anyday. We hired a girl who had a Computer Science degree,
> but did not know what a gateway was or the difference between Dial up
> networking and LAN sheesh...
>
> I would rather put m money into Vendor courses for training purposes only,
> you get a Certification of participation and thats it, but at least you
will
> be taught something.
>
> My two cents :)
Yeah? My experience has been the complete opposite. If you don't have a
degree or similar then your application gets tossed straight in the bin -
they don't even bother looking at what your experience is. I guess it
depends on whether you're looking at the private or public sector.
Government jobs tend to require you to meet very strict qualification
requirements. At least all the ones I've been involved with.