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d1savowed

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:11:31 AM11/26/09
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Hi,
Out of curiousity, given you are phasing out the 1MB versions of
the board (pretty sure I read that), do you have any plans to make
some different versions of it?

I was thinking one with dual ethernet, as I seem to remember
reading that the RDC chip that you use has support for two ethernet
adapters. Would make a cheap and flexible firewall system (m0nowall
anyone?).

Stu

biff...@yahoo.co.uk

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:56:16 AM11/26/09
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Sorry, no plans for dual ethernet, there are plenty of routers you can
buy which already have that aren't there? Most people will prefer
dual USB, I believe. That's more likely, but I'm not promising
anything ATM.

d1savowed

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:23:39 AM11/26/09
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Dual USB would be cool as well, gives room for a flash disk and a
dongle of some sort :D

Stu

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Laurens Van Houtven

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:28:35 AM11/26/09
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+1 vote for dual USB :-)


regards
lvh

ma...@wtns.de

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:13:56 AM11/28/09
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I think,

8 MB Flash
64 MB Ram
2 x USB 2.0
1 x UART
1 x LAN
some GPIOs (for SPI, I2C, 1W etc...) (if possible more than four )

Regards,
Marco

Alexander Zayats

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Dec 2, 2009, 9:43:52 AM12/2/09
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I dare say MicroSD slot would be great for rootfs hosting. So USB
would be free for peripherals.

Stelios

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:57:29 AM12/9/09
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I would go for the following:

64MB RAM
2xUSB
Jumper for selecting JTAG or GPIO

~stelios

HKairpost

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Dec 9, 2009, 2:39:07 PM12/9/09
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Stelios wrote:
> I would go for the following:
>
> 64MB RAM
> 2xUSB
>
right! many of new devices feature 64MB
and having 2 USB would definitely be useful

> Jumper for selecting JTAG or GPIO

nice to have :)


biff...@yahoo.co.uk

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:27:42 PM1/2/10
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I've posted some details and pics here:
http://sites.google.com/site/bifferboard/Home/2-port-bifferboard

You can order now, although we won't ship until 11th Jan.

thanks,
Biff.

Razvan Dragomirescu

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:37:12 PM1/2/10
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Hi Biff,
 
Can you please upload a couple of photos with the enclosure? I'm trying to imagine what it looks like with the plastic case on.
 
Thanks!
Razvan

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d1savowed

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:56:13 PM1/2/10
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Hi Biff,
Liking the new boards!! Just wanted to check, I take it there are no
current plans to increase the memory to 64MB?

Stu

Jason

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:56:53 AM1/4/10
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I guess there is no SDIO support on the internal SDIO card ... looking
at the picture the SD card uses a Genesys logic GL827L to add SD/MMC
support as a USB storage device (as per the BB wiki note).

The Genesys website is fairly terse but based upon the following link
SDIO is not available, Biff can you confirm? Link:
http://www.genesyslogic.com/_en/product_01_1.php?id=26

Regards
Jason


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biff...@yahoo.co.uk

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:14:31 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 9:56 am, Jason <g...@solo-c.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I guess there is no SDIO support on the internal SDIO card ... looking
> at the picture the SD card uses a Genesys logic GL827L to add SD/MMC
> support as a USB storage device (as per the BB wiki note).

Correct, there is no SDIO support.
regards,
Biff.

Andrew Scheller

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:14:58 AM1/4/10
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Very interesting!
Couple of questions...
Is there a similar 'resistor trick' needed to swap the pins between JTAG & GPIO?

Do the pin-headers come pre-soldered, or is it like the original
bifferboard where we have to add them ourselves?

The serial-pinout is unfortunately slightly different - are you
planning to ship some kind of 'adaptor' with the boards, so we can use
our existing console cables?

Presumably we could just copy an existing (unmodified?) rootfs onto a
SD card, and the kernel would just load root from that (i.e. it would
appear as /dev/sda1 ?), giving us two free USB ports?

Could you update the wiki page to say if the button is still GPIO15 ?

What does the non-SMT LED on the IO board indicate?

Maybe biffboot needs to be clarified WRT what 'boot from MMC' means,
now that there's two mmc-connection options ;)

Lurch

2010/1/2 biff...@yahoo.co.uk <biff...@yahoo.co.uk>:

Andrew Scheller

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:15:47 AM1/4/10
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Some side-by-side shots of the old case and the new case would be great too :)

Lurch

2010/1/2 Razvan Dragomirescu <razvan.dr...@gmail.com>:

biff...@yahoo.co.uk

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:34:39 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 2:14 pm, Andrew Scheller <ya...@loowis.durge.org> wrote:
> Very interesting!
> Couple of questions...
> Is there a similar 'resistor trick' needed to swap the pins between JTAG & GPIO?

Removing R37 and R38 on the CPU board should do the trick, however I
haven't tested this yet, so therefore haven't written it up.

> Do the pin-headers come pre-soldered, or is it like the original
> bifferboard where we have to add them ourselves?

Headers are as pictured.

> The serial-pinout is unfortunately slightly different - are you
> planning to ship some kind of 'adaptor' with the boards, so we can use
> our existing console cables?

No. I plan to start providing keyed serial connectors to prevent
incorrect connection. So far the majority of boards we get back seem
to have faulty console port but with everything else working, leading
me to suspect the current 3-pin arrangement leads to people plugging
in the wrong way round and damaging the RDC CPU. I may be on the
wrong track, but I feel better safe than sorry.

> Presumably we could just copy an existing (unmodified?) rootfs onto a
> SD card, and the kernel would just load root from that (i.e. it would
> appear as /dev/sda1 ?), giving us two free USB ports?

Yes.

> Could you update the wiki page to say if the button is still GPIO15 ?

It is.

> What does the non-SMT LED on the IO board indicate?

It's for the SD card.

> Maybe biffboot needs to be clarified WRT what 'boot from MMC' means,
> now that there's two mmc-connection options ;)

Maybe....

> Lurch
>

Biff.

Poulton, Stuart W.L.

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:01:09 AM1/6/10
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Couple of questions....

1 - Any pictures of the case for the 2 port bifferboards ?
2 - Can you use both USB sockets and the SD card at the same time ?

Cheers

Stuart

eb4fbz

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:48:07 AM1/6/10
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Old bifferboard hardware was the same platform as MRT and others used
for their NAS Dongle products (http://www.mrt-communication.com/WANSER-
R.htm). So the box offered was exactly the same.

For those interested in a photo of the 2xUSB version, it's likely to
be the same as this: http://www.mrt-communication.com/NAS-R104.htm

They also ofered a 2xUSB version without SD card but gigabit LAN.

biff...@yahoo.co.uk

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Jan 6, 2010, 4:33:43 PM1/6/10
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Sorry for the delay, but I wanted to take my own pictures, and didn't
have a case when I did the original page. Please see the updated
page.
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