Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew J <matthewj...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: {BL} Re: Shifters
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>Depends on how much of a stretch it is for you to get to the downtube 
levers, and that depends a lot on your frame size, arm length and riding 
position.  If you like your bars at seat height, you will not be able to 
reach the levers simply by dropping your arm, as your hand will be 
several inches above the lever; you must also bend forward at the waist, 
almost like you're reaching for a water bottle. <
 
I have had nothing other than custom bikes for quite some time with 
perfectly placed DT shifter bosses.  That said, the Raleigh, Trek, 
Cannondale and Basso off the shelf bikes I've had over the years also had 
wll placed bosses.  On none of these bikes did I need to adjust my body 
position to shift.  Uncoordinated as I am, I can easily shift both front 
and back ders with one hand at the same time.  Shifts take only a matter of 
secons.
 
I'm down to 42 cm drops now.  In the past I've had the wide 46 Noodles 
Rivendell sells.  Never timed it, but am quite sure the amount of time it 
would takes for me to move my hand down and out from the drop to the end of 
the bar as opposed to down and in for the DT.
 
Again, I could care less where other people have their shifters.  This 
notion that DT shifters are a hazzard though in my experience is 
exaggeration.
 

> I used to have a bike with downtube shifters.  First time I put a baby 
seat on the bike and took my then-infant daughter for a ride, exactly 
this happened to me.  <
 
Seems to me this is more the case of a bike not designed for carrying 
the load where it was located than a problem with shifter placement.


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<DIV>&gt;Depends on how much of a stretch it is for you to get to the downtube <BR>levers, and that depends a lot on your frame size, arm length and riding <BR>position. &nbsp;If you like your bars at seat height, you will not be able to <BR>reach the levers simply by dropping your arm, as your hand will be <BR>several inches above the lever; you must also bend forward at the waist, <BR>almost like you're reaching for a water bottle.&nbsp;&lt;</DIV>
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<DIV>I have had nothing other than custom bikes for quite some time with perfectly placed DT shifter bosses.&nbsp; That said, the Raleigh, Trek, Cannondale&nbsp;and Basso off the shelf bikes I've had over the years also had wll placed bosses.&nbsp; On none of these bikes did I need to adjust my body position to shift.&nbsp; Uncoordinated as I am, I can easily shift both front and back ders with one hand at the same time.&nbsp; Shifts take only a matter of secons.</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm down to 42 cm drops now.&nbsp; In the past I've had the wide 46 Noodles Rivendell sells.&nbsp; Never timed it, but am quite sure the amount of time it would takes for me to move my hand down and out from the drop to the end of the bar as opposed to down and in for the DT.</DIV>
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<DIV>Again, I could care less where other people have their shifters.&nbsp; This notion that DT shifters are a hazzard though in my experience is exaggeration.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;<BR><BR>&gt; I used to have a bike with downtube shifters. &nbsp;First time I put a baby <BR>seat on the bike and took my then-infant daughter for a ride, exactly <BR>this happened to me.&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;</DIV>
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<DIV>Seems to me this is more the case of a bike not designed for carrying the&nbsp;load where it was located&nbsp;than a problem with shifter placement.<BR><BR></DIV>
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