I got a Used SON Classic hub from a friend a few months ago. I know he
got it from Peter White. Got a wheel built around it, but never got a
chance to hook the lights up, mainly because I was "doored" back in
July, and only started riding again six weeks ago.
Anyway, hooked up the wheel, no lights attached, and noticed that it
occassionally makes a "puckety-pucety-puckety" sound as it turns
around. I can feel something vibrating in my hand as well. However,
when I start to ride the bike, it goes away. I don't feel any undue
resisistance when rolling either.
I hooked up the lights and they do seem to work if I spin the wheel in
my hand. Front light is Schmidt Edelux. Rear light is a Busch & Muller
seculite plus.
Is this normal, or do I have a big problem here? I ask as I am set to
take my bike to my LBS and have the front light mounted to my bag
rack, my rear light mounted to the fender and have the lines run.
The hub should feel rough when you spin it in your hand & you will feel vibration. On the road you'll feel little resistance but can feel some vibration at speed. Sounds normal to me.
The "notchiness" is due to the magnets in the hub.
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From: Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:51:04 To: <bicyclelifestyle@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: {BL} Son Hub problem/question
Hi Everyone,
I got a Used SON Classic hub from a friend a few months ago. I know he
got it from Peter White. Got a wheel built around it, but never got a
chance to hook the lights up, mainly because I was "doored" back in
July, and only started riding again six weeks ago.
Anyway, hooked up the wheel, no lights attached, and noticed that it
occassionally makes a "puckety-pucety-puckety" sound as it turns
around. I can feel something vibrating in my hand as well. However,
when I start to ride the bike, it goes away. I don't feel any undue
resisistance when rolling either.
I hooked up the lights and they do seem to work if I spin the wheel in
my hand. Front light is Schmidt Edelux. Rear light is a Busch & Muller
seculite plus.
Is this normal, or do I have a big problem here? I ask as I am set to
take my bike to my LBS and have the front light mounted to my bag
rack, my rear light mounted to the fender and have the lines run.
Thanks in advance,
Ty Smith
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The notchiness is normal; the sound doesn't sound right, though. Do you hear it while riding? Or only while turning it by hand? If it's loud enough that you hear it while riding, I would be a little concerned that there's something wrong.
On Friday, November 2, 2012 11:51:08 AM UTC-4, Ty Smith wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> I got a Used SON Classic hub from a friend a few months ago. I know he > got it from Peter White. Got a wheel built around it, but never got a > chance to hook the lights up, mainly because I was "doored" back in > July, and only started riding again six weeks ago.
> Anyway, hooked up the wheel, no lights attached, and noticed that it > occassionally makes a "puckety-pucety-puckety" sound as it turns > around. I can feel something vibrating in my hand as well. However, > when I start to ride the bike, it goes away. I don't feel any undue > resisistance when rolling either.
> I hooked up the lights and they do seem to work if I spin the wheel in > my hand. Front light is Schmidt Edelux. Rear light is a Busch & Muller > seculite plus.
> Is this normal, or do I have a big problem here? I ask as I am set to > take my bike to my LBS and have the front light mounted to my bag > rack, my rear light mounted to the fender and have the lines run.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Andy M-S <marchantshap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The notchiness is normal; the sound doesn't sound right, though. Do you
> hear it while riding? Or only while turning it by hand? If it's loud
> enough that you hear it while riding, I would be a little concerned that
> there's something wrong.
> On Friday, November 2, 2012 11:51:08 AM UTC-4, Ty Smith wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I got a Used SON Classic hub from a friend a few months ago. I know he
>> got it from Peter White. Got a wheel built around it, but never got a
>> chance to hook the lights up, mainly because I was "doored" back in
>> July, and only started riding again six weeks ago.
>> Anyway, hooked up the wheel, no lights attached, and noticed that it
>> occassionally makes a "puckety-pucety-puckety" sound as it turns
>> around. I can feel something vibrating in my hand as well. However,
>> when I start to ride the bike, it goes away. I don't feel any undue
>> resisistance when rolling either.
>> I hooked up the lights and they do seem to work if I spin the wheel in
>> my hand. Front light is Schmidt Edelux. Rear light is a Busch & Muller
>> seculite plus.
>> Is this normal, or do I have a big problem here? I ask as I am set to
>> take my bike to my LBS and have the front light mounted to my bag
>> rack, my rear light mounted to the fender and have the lines run.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Ty Smith
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Just ride it. When held in your hand you can feel the vibration or notchiness
but riding it, you'll forget it's there. I have a couple of the SON hubs and a
SRAM I-light. The SONs are noticeably smoother than the SRAM, in my hand. On
the road, I don't feel or see a difference.
Ty Smith wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> I got a Used SON Classic hub from a friend a few months ago. I know he got
it from Peter White. Got a wheel built around it, but never got a chance to
hook the lights up, mainly because I was "doored" back in July, and only
started riding again six weeks ago.
> Anyway, hooked up the wheel, no lights attached, and noticed that it
occassionally makes a "puckety-pucety-puckety" sound as it turns around. I
can feel something vibrating in my hand as well. However, when I start to
ride the bike, it goes away. I don't feel any undue resisistance when
rolling either.
> I hooked up the lights and they do seem to work if I spin the wheel in my
hand. Front light is Schmidt Edelux. Rear light is a Busch & Muller seculite
plus.
> Is this normal, or do I have a big problem here? I ask as I am set to take
my bike to my LBS and have the front light mounted to my bag rack, my rear
light mounted to the fender and have the lines run.
> Thanks in advance,
> Ty Smith
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On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork, it's
> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
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Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON classic
hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt Edelux,
and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who
deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were
bought the same way.
Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right
way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is
grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the
connections seems good.
Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very disapointed
with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" or
"standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from
the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I
have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I would
say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The
capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for a
few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but
that is to expected, I
The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I look
behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a
simple fix that I am unaware of?
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all
> saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address this
> for me.
> My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a true
> Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! ;)
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork, it's
>> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
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How fast are you going? The Edelux is a bit over twice the brightness (according to my camera's light meter) of the Ixon IQ. Sounds like all you have is the standlight working. You should give me a call.
On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:45:53 AM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
> Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON classic > hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt Edelux, > and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who > deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were > bought the same way.
> Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right > way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is > grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the > connections seems good.
> Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very disapointed > with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" or > "standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from > the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I > have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I would > say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The > capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for a > few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but > that is to expected, I
> The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I look > behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
> I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a > simple fix that I am unaware of?
> Thanks!
> Ty
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all > > saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address this > > for me.
> > My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a true > > Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! ;)
> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > >> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork, > it's > >> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
I just tried calling, and left WAY too long of a message, sorry!
I'm at work, and I don't have the bike with me. I'm in California, and
I'm sure by the time I get home ( 6:30 Pacific, 9:30 Eastern) you will
be long gone.
Should I bring my bike in tomorrow, so that I can call you and you can
direct me where to look? One thing to throw into the mix is the
standlight feature of the tailight is not working. Sorry, it was
months ago that I bought the light through Zack Kaplan, so I had
forgotten the specifics. My tailight is the seculite plus, so it
should have a standlight feature.
So please let me know if I should bring the bike in tomorrow.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How fast are you going?
> The Edelux is a bit over twice the brightness (according to my camera's
> light meter) of the Ixon IQ. Sounds like all you have is the standlight
> working. You should give me a call.
> 603 478 0900
> PJW
> On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:45:53 AM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
>> Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON classic
>> hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt Edelux,
>> and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who
>> deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were
>> bought the same way.
>> Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right
>> way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is
>> grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the
>> connections seems good.
>> Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very disapointed
>> with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" or
>> "standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from
>> the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I
>> have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I would
>> say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The
>> capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for a
>> few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but
>> that is to expected, I
>> The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I look
>> behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
>> I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a
>> simple fix that I am unaware of?
>> Thanks!
>> Ty
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all
>> > saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address this
>> > for me.
>> > My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a true
>> > Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! ;)
>> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork,
>> >> it's
>> >> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
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Try reversing the wires connecting the headlight to the taillight. The Seculite Plus can ground to the fender via its mounting bolt. And the Edelux can ground to the frame via its base. So you may just have a short between the two lights. Reverse the leads at the taillight and let us know what happens.
On Monday, November 5, 2012 3:02:06 PM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> I just tried calling, and left WAY too long of a message, sorry!
> I'm at work, and I don't have the bike with me. I'm in California, and > I'm sure by the time I get home ( 6:30 Pacific, 9:30 Eastern) you will > be long gone.
> Should I bring my bike in tomorrow, so that I can call you and you can > direct me where to look? One thing to throw into the mix is the > standlight feature of the tailight is not working. Sorry, it was > months ago that I bought the light through Zack Kaplan, so I had > forgotten the specifics. My tailight is the seculite plus, so it > should have a standlight feature.
> So please let me know if I should bring the bike in tomorrow.
> Thank you very much!
> Ty Smith
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > How fast are you going? > > The Edelux is a bit over twice the brightness (according to my camera's > > light meter) of the Ixon IQ. Sounds like all you have is the standlight > > working. You should give me a call.
> > 603 478 0900
> > PJW
> > On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:45:53 AM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
> >> Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON classic > >> hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt Edelux, > >> and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who > >> deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were > >> bought the same way.
> >> Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right > >> way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is > >> grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the > >> connections seems good.
> >> Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very disapointed > >> with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" or > >> "standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from > >> the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I > >> have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I would > >> say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The > >> capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for a > >> few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but > >> that is to expected, I
> >> The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I look > >> behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
> >> I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a > >> simple fix that I am unaware of?
> >> Thanks!
> >> Ty
> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all > >> > saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address this > >> > for me.
> >> > My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a true > >> > Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! ;)
> >> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork, > >> >> it's > >> >> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
> >> >> PJW
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I just reversed the wires at the tailight, spun the wheel, and I think
that did the trick. Hard to tell during daylight hours, but the light
output looks very good on the headlight, and the standlight is working
for both the headlight and tailight.
Your therory really made sense to me, since the Edelux had standlight
working, but no main light. The tailight had its main light going, but
no standlight. Reversing seems to work.
Big test will be going home from work tonight, but I think it will be
good. I'll let you know.
Oh, another question: Since my edelux is on the handlebar rack at the
height you reccomend, it is not interfering with my wireless Cateye
computer.
However, I have been putting my Ixon IQ on the handlebar, and no
matter how wide I put them, it knocks out the bike computer. From
what I read on your site, it seems moving it down next to the Edelux
would be the best move, short of switching to a wired computer.
Please see enclosed pictures.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Try reversing the wires connecting the headlight to the taillight. The
> Seculite Plus can ground to the fender via its mounting bolt. And the Edelux
> can ground to the frame via its base. So you may just have a short between
> the two lights. Reverse the leads at the taillight and let us know what
> happens.
> PJW
> On Monday, November 5, 2012 3:02:06 PM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>> I just tried calling, and left WAY too long of a message, sorry!
>> I'm at work, and I don't have the bike with me. I'm in California, and
>> I'm sure by the time I get home ( 6:30 Pacific, 9:30 Eastern) you will
>> be long gone.
>> Should I bring my bike in tomorrow, so that I can call you and you can
>> direct me where to look? One thing to throw into the mix is the
>> standlight feature of the tailight is not working. Sorry, it was
>> months ago that I bought the light through Zack Kaplan, so I had
>> forgotten the specifics. My tailight is the seculite plus, so it
>> should have a standlight feature.
>> So please let me know if I should bring the bike in tomorrow.
>> Thank you very much!
>> Ty Smith
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > How fast are you going?
>> > The Edelux is a bit over twice the brightness (according to my camera's
>> > light meter) of the Ixon IQ. Sounds like all you have is the standlight
>> > working. You should give me a call.
>> > 603 478 0900
>> > PJW
>> > On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:45:53 AM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
>> >> Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON classic
>> >> hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt Edelux,
>> >> and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who
>> >> deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were
>> >> bought the same way.
>> >> Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right
>> >> way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is
>> >> grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the
>> >> connections seems good.
>> >> Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very disapointed
>> >> with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" or
>> >> "standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from
>> >> the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I
>> >> have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I would
>> >> say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The
>> >> capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for a
>> >> few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but
>> >> that is to expected, I
>> >> The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I look
>> >> behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
>> >> I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a
>> >> simple fix that I am unaware of?
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> Ty
>> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all
>> >> > saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address this
>> >> > for me.
>> >> > My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a true
>> >> > Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! ;)
>> >> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork,
>> >> >> it's
>> >> >> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
>> >> >> PJW
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All works well after reversing the connections on the taillight. I
confirmed it riding home. You are a genius! Headlight VERY bright, far
exceeding my expectations. I have some dark sections without
streetlights going home and it was amazing. Far better than my old
Dinotte 600 headlight, and I thought that was powerful. I really like
the focused beam as well. With the old Dinotte, I got cars coming at
me flashing their highbeams at me. I used to think they were just
being jerked. I didn't realize that I was shining the equivalent of
high beams at them. I can tell I will have no such issues with this
light.
Regarding the issue of where to put my Ixon IQ,, I can see that I
should get the handlebar adapter you sell along with the bracket, and
mount it on my front rack next to the Edelux. Do you agree?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Peter,
> I just reversed the wires at the tailight, spun the wheel, and I think
> that did the trick. Hard to tell during daylight hours, but the light
> output looks very good on the headlight, and the standlight is working
> for both the headlight and tailight.
> Your therory really made sense to me, since the Edelux had standlight
> working, but no main light. The tailight had its main light going, but
> no standlight. Reversing seems to work.
> Big test will be going home from work tonight, but I think it will be
> good. I'll let you know.
> Oh, another question: Since my edelux is on the handlebar rack at the
> height you reccomend, it is not interfering with my wireless Cateye
> computer.
> However, I have been putting my Ixon IQ on the handlebar, and no
> matter how wide I put them, it knocks out the bike computer. From
> what I read on your site, it seems moving it down next to the Edelux
> would be the best move, short of switching to a wired computer.
> Please see enclosed pictures.
> Thanks again,
> Ty
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Try reversing the wires connecting the headlight to the taillight. The
>> Seculite Plus can ground to the fender via its mounting bolt. And the Edelux
>> can ground to the frame via its base. So you may just have a short between
>> the two lights. Reverse the leads at the taillight and let us know what
>> happens.
>> PJW
>> On Monday, November 5, 2012 3:02:06 PM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> I just tried calling, and left WAY too long of a message, sorry!
>>> I'm at work, and I don't have the bike with me. I'm in California, and
>>> I'm sure by the time I get home ( 6:30 Pacific, 9:30 Eastern) you will
>>> be long gone.
>>> Should I bring my bike in tomorrow, so that I can call you and you can
>>> direct me where to look? One thing to throw into the mix is the
>>> standlight feature of the tailight is not working. Sorry, it was
>>> months ago that I bought the light through Zack Kaplan, so I had
>>> forgotten the specifics. My tailight is the seculite plus, so it
>>> should have a standlight feature.
>>> So please let me know if I should bring the bike in tomorrow.
>>> Thank you very much!
>>> Ty Smith
>>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > How fast are you going?
>>> > The Edelux is a bit over twice the brightness (according to my camera's
>>> > light meter) of the Ixon IQ. Sounds like all you have is the standlight
>>> > working. You should give me a call.
>>> > 603 478 0900
>>> > PJW
>>> > On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:45:53 AM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
>>> >> Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON classic
>>> >> hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt Edelux,
>>> >> and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who
>>> >> deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were
>>> >> bought the same way.
>>> >> Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right
>>> >> way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is
>>> >> grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the
>>> >> connections seems good.
>>> >> Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very disapointed
>>> >> with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" or
>>> >> "standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from
>>> >> the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I
>>> >> have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I would
>>> >> say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The
>>> >> capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for a
>>> >> few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but
>>> >> that is to expected, I
>>> >> The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I look
>>> >> behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
>>> >> I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a
>>> >> simple fix that I am unaware of?
>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >> Ty
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all
>>> >> > saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address this
>>> >> > for me.
>>> >> > My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a true
>>> >> > Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! ;)
>>> >> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork,
>>> >> >> it's
>>> >> >> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
>>> >> >> PJW
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On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 4:34:20 AM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> All works well after reversing the connections on the taillight. I > confirmed it riding home. You are a genius! Headlight VERY bright, far > exceeding my expectations. I have some dark sections without > streetlights going home and it was amazing. Far better than my old > Dinotte 600 headlight, and I thought that was powerful. I really like > the focused beam as well. With the old Dinotte, I got cars coming at > me flashing their highbeams at me. I used to think they were just > being jerked. I didn't realize that I was shining the equivalent of > high beams at them. I can tell I will have no such issues with this > light.
> Regarding the issue of where to put my Ixon IQ,, I can see that I > should get the handlebar adapter you sell along with the bracket, and > mount it on my front rack next to the Edelux. Do you agree?
> Thanks again,
> Ty
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Hey Peter,
> > I just reversed the wires at the tailight, spun the wheel, and I think > > that did the trick. Hard to tell during daylight hours, but the light > > output looks very good on the headlight, and the standlight is working > > for both the headlight and tailight.
> > Your therory really made sense to me, since the Edelux had standlight > > working, but no main light. The tailight had its main light going, but > > no standlight. Reversing seems to work.
> > Big test will be going home from work tonight, but I think it will be > > good. I'll let you know.
> > Oh, another question: Since my edelux is on the handlebar rack at the > > height you reccomend, it is not interfering with my wireless Cateye > > computer. > > However, I have been putting my Ixon IQ on the handlebar, and no > > matter how wide I put them, it knocks out the bike computer. From > > what I read on your site, it seems moving it down next to the Edelux > > would be the best move, short of switching to a wired computer. > > Please see enclosed pictures.
> > Thanks again,
> > Ty
> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote:
> >> Try reversing the wires connecting the headlight to the taillight. The > >> Seculite Plus can ground to the fender via its mounting bolt. And the > Edelux > >> can ground to the frame via its base. So you may just have a short > between > >> the two lights. Reverse the leads at the taillight and let us know what > >> happens.
> >> PJW
> >> On Monday, November 5, 2012 3:02:06 PM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
> >>> Hi Peter,
> >>> I just tried calling, and left WAY too long of a message, sorry!
> >>> I'm at work, and I don't have the bike with me. I'm in California, and > >>> I'm sure by the time I get home ( 6:30 Pacific, 9:30 Eastern) you will > >>> be long gone.
> >>> Should I bring my bike in tomorrow, so that I can call you and you can > >>> direct me where to look? One thing to throw into the mix is the > >>> standlight feature of the tailight is not working. Sorry, it was > >>> months ago that I bought the light through Zack Kaplan, so I had > >>> forgotten the specifics. My tailight is the seculite plus, so it > >>> should have a standlight feature.
> >>> So please let me know if I should bring the bike in tomorrow.
> >>> Thank you very much!
> >>> Ty Smith
> >>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > How fast are you going? > >>> > The Edelux is a bit over twice the brightness (according to my > camera's > >>> > light meter) of the Ixon IQ. Sounds like all you have is the > standlight > >>> > working. You should give me a call.
> >>> > 603 478 0900
> >>> > PJW
> >>> > On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:45:53 AM UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
> >>> >> Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON > classic > >>> >> hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt > Edelux, > >>> >> and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who > >>> >> deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were > >>> >> bought the same way.
> >>> >> Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right > >>> >> way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is > >>> >> grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the > >>> >> connections seems good.
> >>> >> Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very > disapointed > >>> >> with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" > or > >>> >> "standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from > >>> >> the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I > >>> >> have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I > would > >>> >> say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The > >>> >> capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for > a > >>> >> few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but > >>> >> that is to expected, I
> >>> >> The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I > look > >>> >> behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
> >>> >> I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a > >>> >> simple fix that I am unaware of?
> >>> >> Thanks!
> >>> >> Ty
> >>> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> > Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all > >>> >> > saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address > this > >>> >> > for me.
> >>> >> > My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a > true > >>> >> > Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! > ;)
> >>> >> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peter...@gmail.com> > >>> >> > wrote: > >>> >> >> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the > fork, > >>> >> >> it's > >>> >> >> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
> >>> >> >> PJW
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Peter diagnosed my problem very quickly. I had the wires reverersed! DOH!
In any case, I can't stress enough how fantastic this styem is . The
light from the Edelux just blows me away. I used to have Dinotte 600L
light, which at the time was their top of the line. This light really
lit up the dark, but I really annoyed oncoming drivers as it was the
eqivalent of a truck high beam. I didn't know I was being discourteous
about this until much later.
The light from the Edeulux actually lights up a dark path even better.
Much better flow of light. I see further, wider, and with more detail.
The focused beam clearly does not get in other driver's eyes. I am
very impressed!
The B&M Seculite plus taillight is great too. I particurly like the
fac that it is well visible from the side, an it also gives out a
great amount of light. I know there is a big debate between steady and
flashing taillight, and I am still torn on this issue. However, I
really can't see a driver coming from behind me being unable to see
it.
Next step is to get this set-up on my Bike Friday Tikit and my
cargo/shopping bike...
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Update on my lighting situation. To recap, I have a used SON classic
> hub, which I got from a trusted source. I have a new Schmidt Edelux,
> and a new B&M Seculite tailight, which were brought from a LBS who
> deals directly with Peter White. Wiring and mounting hardware were
> bought the same way.
> Got Edelux hooked up front. It is on my front rack. It is the right
> way up. I have the seculite mounted on the rear fender. It is
> grounded. I used only the wires from Peter's shop, and all the
> connections seems good.
> Everything seems to work at a basic level, but I am very disapointed
> with the headlight output. The light comes on when switched to "On" or
> "standlight" (if at night). The only issue is the light output from
> the Edelux is very poor, like a very low watt standard headlight. I
> have the Ixon IQ light as well, which has the same optics, and I would
> say it is at least three times as powerful as the headlight. The
> capicitor on the Edelus seems fine a as the light does stay on for a
> few minutes after I stop. I don't see the tailight staying on, but
> that is to expected, I
> The tailight seems fine, but not sure how to judge that. When I look
> behind while peddling (carefully) it seems very bright.
> I'm guessing I did something wrong in hooking this up.Is there is a
> simple fix that I am unaware of?
> Thanks!
> Ty
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ty Smith <tyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks everyone! Looks like all is ok based upon what you are all
>> saying. I really appreciate you taking the time out to address this
>> for me.
>> My Salsa Casseroll is at the shop now! Very excited to have a true
>> Randonneur bike, capable of mulit-day trips... even if I'm not! ;)
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If you feel vibration or hear anything when the hub is in the fork, it's
>>> probably because the skewer isn't tight enough.
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The Edelux is indeed amazing. Some years back, I built a headlight using a rectifier bridge and two 3W LEDs wired in series, with appropriate lenses and heatsinking. I thought it was pretty good (and it *was*), but it paled (pardon the pun) next to the Edelux. Technology marches on!
On Friday, November 2, 2012 11:51:08 AM UTC-4, Ty Smith wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> I got a Used SON Classic hub from a friend a few months ago. I know he > got it from Peter White. Got a wheel built around it, but never got a > chance to hook the lights up, mainly because I was "doored" back in > July, and only started riding again six weeks ago.
> Anyway, hooked up the wheel, no lights attached, and noticed that it > occassionally makes a "puckety-pucety-puckety" sound as it turns > around. I can feel something vibrating in my hand as well. However, > when I start to ride the bike, it goes away. I don't feel any undue > resisistance when rolling either.
> I hooked up the lights and they do seem to work if I spin the wheel in > my hand. Front light is Schmidt Edelux. Rear light is a Busch & Muller > seculite plus.
> Is this normal, or do I have a big problem here? I ask as I am set to > take my bike to my LBS and have the front light mounted to my bag > rack, my rear light mounted to the fender and have the lines run.
