Hope some of you might be interested in the fine work of relatively new, but skilled frame builder.
Manifest was a bike I could load for shorter tours (3 to 7 days), roll on to or box up for the Amtrak, train it a few hundred miles from home then ride back.
Joel's solution is a raw stainless fillet braze frame set up for lighting that will accommodate a Tubus duo up front, plenty of room for a rear rack and panniers, fenders, multiple water bottles for a rider who prefers a more upright position.
Joel communicates well. Very uncomplicated process. Wait was just over 4 months.
These pictures show the basic build. Hope to pick it up soon and finish the build. I will post final pictures when done.
On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 06:42 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
> Hope some of you might be interested in the fine work of relatively
> new, but skilled frame builder.
> Manifest was a bike I could load for shorter tours (3 to 7 days), roll
> on to or box up for the Amtrak, train it a few hundred miles from home
> then ride back.
> Joel's solution is a raw stainless fillet braze frame set up for
> lighting that will accommodate a Tubus duo up front, plenty of room
> for a rear rack and panniers, fenders, multiple water bottles for a
> rider who prefers a more upright position.
> Joel communicates well. Very uncomplicated process. Wait was just
> over 4 months.
> These pictures show the basic build. Hope to pick it up soon and
> finish the build. I will post final pictures when done.
The Paragon Sliding drop outs could accommodate an IGH. Currently I plan to use the single speed rear wheel in the pictures for inclement riding and a rear wheel built around a Royce hub that will accommodate 5 through 7 speed freewheels. Anything more than that is overkill for the Midwest. Even in the rolling hills of Wisconsin and northeastern Iowa, I've ridden entire days with a full load and never got around to shifting once.
Wheels are 700c. The Paul Racer Ms upper limit is 32 with fenders. Joel said there was decent room for the Grand Bois Cypres pictured and the Berthoud Composites which I plan to use.
If for some reason the Cypres or the forthcoming 700x32 cypres are not comfortable enough, I imagine I could swap in regular Racers without much ado.
On Monday, October 22, 2012 8:53:58 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 06:42 -0700, Matthew J wrote: > > Hope some of you might be interested in the fine work of relatively > > new, but skilled frame builder.
> > Manifest was a bike I could load for shorter tours (3 to 7 days), roll > > on to or box up for the Amtrak, train it a few hundred miles from home > > then ride back.
> > Joel's solution is a raw stainless fillet braze frame set up for > > lighting that will accommodate a Tubus duo up front, plenty of room > > for a rear rack and panniers, fenders, multiple water bottles for a > > rider who prefers a more upright position.
> > Joel communicates well. Very uncomplicated process. Wait was just > > over 4 months.
> > These pictures show the basic build. Hope to pick it up soon and > > finish the build. I will post final pictures when done.
That's a nice looking bike, Matthew; nice clean lines and details. Though
it's a while off yet, I look forward to ride reports (and of course, more
pics)
Cheers!
lyle
On 22 October 2012 10:26, Matthew J <matthewj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Paragon Sliding drop outs could accommodate an IGH. Currently I plan
> to use the single speed rear wheel in the pictures for inclement riding and
> a rear wheel built around a Royce hub that will accommodate 5 through 7
> speed freewheels. Anything more than that is overkill for the Midwest.
> Even in the rolling hills of Wisconsin and northeastern Iowa, I've ridden
> entire days with a full load and never got around to shifting once.
> Wheels are 700c. The Paul Racer Ms upper limit is 32 with fenders. Joel
> said there was decent room for the Grand Bois Cypres pictured and the
> Berthoud Composites which I plan to use.
> If for some reason the Cypres or the forthcoming 700x32 cypres are not
> comfortable enough, I imagine I could swap in regular Racers without much
> ado.
> On Monday, October 22, 2012 8:53:58 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>> On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 06:42 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
>> > Hope some of you might be interested in the fine work of relatively
>> > new, but skilled frame builder.
>> > Manifest was a bike I could load for shorter tours (3 to 7 days), roll
>> > on to or box up for the Amtrak, train it a few hundred miles from home
>> > then ride back.
>> > Joel's solution is a raw stainless fillet braze frame set up for
>> > lighting that will accommodate a Tubus duo up front, plenty of room
>> > for a rear rack and panniers, fenders, multiple water bottles for a
>> > rider who prefers a more upright position.
>> > Joel communicates well. Very uncomplicated process. Wait was just
>> > over 4 months.
>> > These pictures show the basic build. Hope to pick it up soon and
>> > finish the build. I will post final pictures when done.
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On Monday, October 22, 2012 9:31:40 AM UTC-5, LyleB...@gmail.com wrote:
> That's a nice looking bike, Matthew; nice clean lines and details. Though > it's a while off yet, I look forward to ride reports (and of course, more > pics)
> Cheers!
> lyle
> On 22 October 2012 10:26, Matthew J <matth...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>> The Paragon Sliding drop outs could accommodate an IGH. Currently I plan >> to use the single speed rear wheel in the pictures for inclement riding and >> a rear wheel built around a Royce hub that will accommodate 5 through 7 >> speed freewheels. Anything more than that is overkill for the Midwest. >> Even in the rolling hills of Wisconsin and northeastern Iowa, I've ridden >> entire days with a full load and never got around to shifting once.
>> Wheels are 700c. The Paul Racer Ms upper limit is 32 with fenders. Joel >> said there was decent room for the Grand Bois Cypres pictured and the >> Berthoud Composites which I plan to use.
>> If for some reason the Cypres or the forthcoming 700x32 cypres are not >> comfortable enough, I imagine I could swap in regular Racers without much >> ado.
>> On Monday, October 22, 2012 8:53:58 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 06:42 -0700, Matthew J wrote: >>> > Hope some of you might be interested in the fine work of relatively >>> > new, but skilled frame builder.
>>> > Manifest was a bike I could load for shorter tours (3 to 7 days), roll >>> > on to or box up for the Amtrak, train it a few hundred miles from home >>> > then ride back.
>>> > Joel's solution is a raw stainless fillet braze frame set up for >>> > lighting that will accommodate a Tubus duo up front, plenty of room >>> > for a rear rack and panniers, fenders, multiple water bottles for a >>> > rider who prefers a more upright position.
>>> > Joel communicates well. Very uncomplicated process. Wait was just >>> > over 4 months.
>>> > These pictures show the basic build. Hope to pick it up soon and >>> > finish the build. I will post final pictures when done.
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I saw it on his website a week ago or so. He does very nice work and has reasonable prices. The fork rake looks really nice too. How much rake did he build in?
Yeah, the fork turned out well. It is plated steel, but matches very well with the stainless/ Not positive rake. I know it is somewhat lower than medium. I am picking up on Sunday and will verify then.
On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:56:11 PM UTC-5, Michael_S wrote:
> I saw it on his website a week ago or so. He does very nice work and has > reasonable prices. The fork rake looks really nice too. How much rake did > he build in?
Picked up the bike yesterday and did remember to ask Joel about the fork rake.
Rake is 48mm. With the Grand Bois Cypres tires that makes for 59mm trail. For reference as I imagine many here have ridden one, about classic Rivendell geometry.
Probably would have had the bike built up already were it not that I had the wrong multi-speed freewheel for the Royce rear wheel and did not have a single speed freewheel at all for the White rear wheel. Somehow I thought I had both when it turns out I had neither.
On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:56:11 PM UTC-5, Michael_S wrote: > I saw it on his website a week ago or so. He does very nice work and has > reasonable prices. The fork rake looks really nice too. How much rake did > he build in?
Paul Moon Unit straddle hangers are kind of wide to use with the Racers. This would not be an issue if I had Toei roller hangers. But when I went to check my parts I realized when I sold the MAP Rando I forgot to keep the Toei. Now it appears Jitensha no longer sells them.
Yes, I know VO sells cheap knock offs. But I don't like using cheap knock offs.
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 13:14 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
> One other dang it anyway moment yesterday -
> Paul Moon Unit straddle hangers are kind of wide to use with the
> Racers. This would not be an issue if I had Toei roller hangers. But
> when I went to check my parts I realized when I sold the MAP Rando I
> forgot to keep the Toei. Now it appears Jitensha no longer sells
> them.
Did we know about that, or is this the first time I'm hearing you sold
the MAP?
Did we know about that, or is this the first time I'm hearing you sold the MAP?
Thought I had mentioned it sometime in the past. Too much overlap with the Coast. MAP name has more cachet so sold to an enthusiastic randoneur in the Bay Area.
He is probably happily enjoying the bike while you east coasters are getting soaked.
Dry and very clear here, but windy, plus the storm is blocking a cold pattern right over Lake Michigan. My hands have not warmed up all day from the a.m. ride (and I was wearing gloves even!).
On Monday, October 29, 2012 3:28:50 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 13:14 -0700, Matthew J wrote: > > One other dang it anyway moment yesterday -
> > Paul Moon Unit straddle hangers are kind of wide to use with the > > Racers. This would not be an issue if I had Toei roller hangers. But > > when I went to check my parts I realized when I sold the MAP Rando I > > forgot to keep the Toei. Now it appears Jitensha no longer sells > > them.
> Did we know about that, or is this the first time I'm hearing you sold > the MAP?
On Monday, October 22, 2012 6:42:04 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
> Hope some of you might be interested in the fine work of relatively new, > but skilled frame builder.
> Manifest was a bike I could load for shorter tours (3 to 7 days), roll on > to or box up for the Amtrak, train it a few hundred miles from home then > ride back.
> Joel's solution is a raw stainless fillet braze frame set up for > lighting that will accommodate a Tubus duo up front, plenty of room for a > rear rack and panniers, fenders, multiple water bottles for a rider who > prefers a more upright position.
> Joel communicates well. Very uncomplicated process. Wait was just over 4 > months.
> These pictures show the basic build. Hope to pick it up soon and finish > the build. I will post final pictures when done.
Bike is now ready. Took for a first ride on an overcast, windy day but according to yahoo weather, no imminent. Fat chance. Skies opened up midway through. Well, according to some cultures, rain at the start of a journey is good luck.
Could not take photos though. Maybe tomorrow.
Noticed something interesting just now. Maybe one of the physicists in the group can explain. Frame is raw stainless KVA. Stem and fork are steel with a matte brushed chrome finish. In the light the two finishes appear very close. Yet in a dark room the brushed chrome are much more apparent than the KVA.
Ride is wonderful. Of course the Grand Bois Cypres may have something to with that. Paul Race M's stop on a dime.
> KVA stainless tubing is lighter than I had expected. The fillet brazing
is wonderfully clean. While I like the brass color contrast of the fillets against the stainless tubing, builder Joel Greenblatt says it will become more grey over time.
Forgot to take a picture of the skewers. Originally I was going to use Pitlocks (and may well revert them if my paranoia gets the better of me) but then I learned of this stainless and brass numbers from West America and Hufnagel bicycle. The match is perfect.
On 2012-11-11, at 6:35 PM, Matthew J <matthewj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forgot to take a picture of the skewers. Originally I was going to use Pitlocks (and may well revert them if my paranoia gets the better of me) but then I learned of this stainless and brass numbers from West America and Hufnagel bicycle. The match is perfect.
Those are very pretty, but in the case of bicycle (parts) theft, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Pitlocks do a lot for my peace of mind, and they're easy enough on the eye.
On Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:57:58 PM UTC-6, dr2chase wrote:
> On 2012-11-11, at 6:35 PM, Matthew J <matth...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Forgot to take a picture of the skewers. Originally I was going to use > Pitlocks (and may well revert them if my paranoia gets the better of me) > but then I learned of this stainless and brass numbers from West America > and Hufnagel bicycle. The match is perfect.
> Those are very pretty, but in the case of bicycle (parts) theft, just > because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Pitlocks > do a lot for my peace of mind, and they're easy enough on the eye.
The flash no longer works in my cheap camera. I took these shots using the available light function. Top is a close up of Joel's fillet work. That is a pit lock seat clamp and bolt with the optional bolt clamp. Cable is a vintage Shimano XTR I've had forever and finally got a chance to use:
<https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dDHPj6Wxta4/UKg6klQ_-BI/AAAAAAAAAC...> The skewer above is from West America out of Portland. The stainless and brass match the bike tubing and fillets perfectly. That is a Kjaerholm pk22 chair in the background. Couple years ago I bought a pair at an estate sale.
Detail below shows the pedal quick release mechanism on the White Industries crank. Easier to use than a pedal wrench. You cannot see it looking at the outside of the crank arm. Seems very solid. This was an important feature for me. I live in the city but like to take the bike on the local train to the countryside and Amtrak downstate and elsewhere.
