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Bob Jackson fan  
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From: Bob Jackson fan <frankscomme...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 12:27 pm
Subject: any ideas on touring shoes?
A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes
for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in.  My current
shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a
regular shoe with a cleat.  And my feet in those shoes do sometimes
hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the
cleat is pretty localized.  So what are people wearing on long tours
these days?  thanks

 
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Discussion subject changed to "{BL} any ideas on touring shoes?" by Martin Bernstein
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From: Martin Bernstein <centri...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:47:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?

I'd start by looking at REI.com, cycling, shoes. I've never gotten into the
rigid riding shoe habit instead I've worn such as:Shimano MT33L Bike Shoes
- Men's, or even more recently, sandals with Speedplay's MTB cleats.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob Jackson fan
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Chuck Davis  
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From: Chuck Davis <dang.ch...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:56:49 -0500
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Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?

Sandals for the past 5 or so years

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From: d...@kconline.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:17:01 -0500 (CDT)
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Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?


 
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Lyle Bogart  
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From: Lyle Bogart <lylebog...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:22:08 -0400
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?

I just wear whatever I happen to have closest to hand. Indoor soccer shoes,
crocs, doc martins, whatever. . .

Cheers!

lyle

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Larry Parker  
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From: "Larry Parker" <LParker_0...@fuse.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:45:05 -0400
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?
I ride with Shimano MTB shoes, the model ID is worn off of them, but the
ones I have seen in the stores are quite similar. MTB3300 ??? something like
that.   Solid black, velcro straps (nice, laces always want to be in the
chainring) They are stiff enough and flexible enough, too.

I also have a pair of Shimano Sandals. Sometimes I really like them.
Sometimes I don't.

Another option, depending on how they "coordinate with your ensemble" is the
Keen Austin Pedal. I wear these with Khakis, jeans, etc. to commute to work
and often leave them on all day. Really comfortable, nice looking "casual"
shoes.  They are a bit heavy compared to the Shimanos, but they look like
normal shoes. I have to tuck the laces in, which can be irritating on longer
rides, but I have very narrow feet. If your foot is more normal you may not
have quite so much leftover lace to worry about!

Larry


 
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Robert Tilley  
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From: Robert Tilley <rltil...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:21:59 -0700
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob Jackson fan
<frankscomme...@gmail.com>wrote:

> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes
> for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in.  My current
> shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a
> regular shoe with a cleat.  And my feet in those shoes do sometimes
> hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the
> cleat is pretty localized.  So what are people wearing on long tours
> these days?  thanks

I started using Shimano sandals years ago & they are still my favorite
all-around cycling shoe.  You can handle any type of weather simply by
changing the socks you wear.

I also use the Chrome Kursk shoes a ton and really like them for around
town.  They are very similar to Chuck All Stars but with a much stiffer
sole.  They have a standard version as well as a version drilled for
cleats.  I use the standard version with Power Grips and love the
combination.  The version with cleats work great but the cleat isn't
recessed enough & contacts the ground when walking.  Definitely wouldn't
want to walk too far in them.  I'm not sure if they changed the design on
these or not.  I have an early version of this model.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA


 
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Carlin Eng  
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From: Carlin Eng <carlin...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:30:05 -0700
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?

I've tried to find an "all-rounder" shoe that works well both on the saddle
and off, but by and large have failed. If you have extra space, I'd
recommend throwing a good pair of sandals or tennis shoes in your panniers
for extended time off the bike. Stiff, well fitting MTB shoes will prevent
hotspots while pedaling.

I've done several brevets and a fleche with Sidi Dominator 5s and had no
comfort issues. They're not bad as walking shoes for short jaunts (e.g.,
convenience store refuelling stops). For longer trips on foot, change shoes.


 
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David  
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:54:33 -0600
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Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?
Frog pedals and Shimano sandals can't be beat.  With wool socks they're warmer in winter than shoes, too.

Sent from my iPhone

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Lynne Fitz  
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From: Lynne Fitz <fitzb...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:37:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?

The Keen sandals or thePearl Izumi shoes that look like running shoes, but aren't.


 
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Mark G  
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From: "Mark G" <2...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:00:37 -0600
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Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?
I am very fond of Keen sandals as well. I have the Arroyo - very
comfortable - they're about all I ride in. Also, for cooler weather, the
Keen Austin Pedal has about the same fit.

Mark G
Longmont, CO

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Peter Pesce  
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 More options Jun 11 2012, 11:47 pm
From: Peter Pesce <petepe...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 11:47 pm
Subject: any ideas on touring shoes?

Keen commuter sandals if you need SPD. Any other Keens if you don't.
I also have a pair of Specialized Sport Touring shoes which I like quite a bIt. They are not what I'd choose to hike in, but are far better than any road shoe and most MTB shoes.


 
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Fai Mao  
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From: Fai Mao <i.am.fai....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 3:02 am
Subject: Re: any ideas on touring shoes?
I have found the concept of "Stiff shoes" to be one of those marketing
things similar to "New and Improved" or "8 vitamins and minerals
added"
I do not own a car. Thus I commute or tour every where I go. I can
tell no difference in efficiency or speed using clip-less pedals or
riding in sneakers with toe-clips or Power-grips
Try a set of power-grips - they come with pedals, and a pair of court
shoes with a fairly thick sole. You can ride in them all day and
walking is not a problem. No hot spots, Your feet feel secure on the
pedals and you can ride in almost any shoe.

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Discussion subject changed to "{BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?" by Mark Schoonover
Mark Schoonover  
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:22:28 -0700
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 3:22 am
Subject: Re: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

I've found the concept of stiff shoes mandatory except for very short
rides. Within a few miles riding in soft shoes,  I'll get the worst foot
cramps where I have to stop pedaling. It's stiff shoes with broad cleats.
I've had the best performance with Speedplay pedals on stiff shoes.

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Kurt Nordback  
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From: Kurt Nordback <knordb...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:56:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 9:56 am
Subject: Re: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

I too have used the Keen Austin Pedals.  As stated, they're heavy, but I find them very comfortable and pretty efficient.  And they look "normal".  Actually, a friend I was visiting once on tour said "You're riding halfway across the country but your shoes look like you're going to work".

But I've been moving more in the direction of toe-clips and light hiking shoes for off-pavement tours, because I've never been able to seal up the cleat opening well enough to keep water out when walking in snowy or wet conditions, and the cleat is treacherous when walking on rocks.

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From: Jonathan Murray <murray.jonat...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:16:20 -0400
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Subject: Re: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?
In the summer I commute with Pearl Izumi X-Alps cycling shoes which
have spd cleats and go well with my flip flop pedals, spd on one side
and flats on the other. In the winter I use my regular work shoes and
NEOS overshoes as needed. Flip flop pedals are cool in that they let
you run spd if you feel like clipping in or just regular shoes if
you're off to the pub or work. I wouldn't say stiff soled shoes are
mandatory, but they are fun.

What I want is black leather, waterproof, ankle high SPD compatible
cycling shoes that I can wear in the office that look like regular
shoes, not bike shoes. Ankle high so they fit under rain pants. They
don't exist, so my NEOS, while bulky, keep my feet warm and dry all
winter, snow and ice have no chance against NEOS...actually it's the
38 degree and raining days that are the worst(but still WAY better
than driving a car). I hate being wet from the cold rain so I have
everything I need to deal with it. Another guy in my office rides in
sneakers all winter long he doesn't mind wet feet.

I'd say ride whatever makes you have the absolute most fun and gets
you on your bike the most times.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Mark Schoonover


 
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Discussion subject changed to "any ideas on touring shoes?" by Kelly Sleeper
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From: Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 10:25 am
Subject: Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

I am 6'5" tall, 225 lbs and load heavy .. this last week on tour was about
70 pounds of gear.  I have used both cycling shoes and regular.  This has
been the most comfortable ever using BMX pedals with flimsy sandals.  
I'm done with clip less for touring.  

Kelly


 
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:53:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: any ideas on touring shoes?
Ebay is loaded with touring shoes. Just put "cycling touring shoes" in
the search box. Here's one listing:
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/200493861085?
var=500007623681&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649>
Phil Brown
Hot today in Oakland, Calif.

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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:24:48 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: {BL} any ideas on touring shoes?

Specialized Tahoe  MTB shoes. My all around cycling shoe including short
tours. And I have a lot of miles walking in them building mountain bike
trails where we have to ride to the work locale.

Kenny


 
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 04:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

On the tandem I tour with Keen Commuter & Speedplay Frogs, but on the
single I ride White platform, half clips and NB sneakers.  The Keen Austin
Pedal looks nice though.  The NB sneakers crowd the large Bruce Gordon
clips.  Has anyone tried a large (13) Austin Pedal with a large BG clip?
Michael


 
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Discussion subject changed to "{BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?" by Lee Legrand
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From: Lee Legrand <krm2...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:50:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

Why not use the WI pedals for long tours? Is there any special reason why
you dont?  I was thinking on using these with the Bruce Gorden Clips for
tours.

Lee


 
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:58:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

> Sidi Dominator 5, which are very stiff, but also plenty walkable. I also
> would not consider riding any distance without my (now 11-year-old) custom
> footbeds, which eliminated hot spots, numb toes, and other foot/knee issues.

Mike

 
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:02:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?
Hard to say.  I have some older Lake MTB shoes (bottom of the line) that have worked well enough with various SPD-like cleats, but nowadays I just ride in shoes, clogs, or flipflops.  However, most days nowadays are not long days -- 20 miles if I am commuting, maybe more with errands.  The Lake shoes I think come in a few widths, which is far more important for the duck-footed than stiff or not.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:52:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2012 9:52 am
Subject: Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:47:20 AM UTC-7, MichaelH wrote:

> On the tandem I tour with Keen Commuter & Speedplay Frogs, but on the
> single I ride White platform, half clips and NB sneakers.  The Keen Austin
> Pedal looks nice though.  The NB sneakers crowd the large Bruce Gordon
> clips.  Has anyone tried a large (13) Austin Pedal with a large BG clip?
> Michael

I can make Extra Large  Clips on demand - both Regular and Boot Models.  I
also make Extra Small ones.
Give me a call (707) 762-5601
Regards,
Bruce Gordon
www.bgcycles.com

 
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:54:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?

The only reason I continue to use Frogs for touring on the tandem is that
they are a bit more secure and loosing contact with a pedal on a tandem is
almost always a painful experience as your partner will keep pedaling until
you get whacked.  I'd like to get a shoe that worked better and was more
comfortable for pedaling long distances when I do use the White pedals.
 Sneakers are just OK for 1-2 hours.

Michael


 
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