Thanks for the response. So you want to keep your foot on the pedal while
riding tandem with someone to prevent getting wacked by the pedal. It make
sense.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:54 AM, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The only reason I continue to use Frogs for touring on the tandem is that
> they are a bit more secure and loosing contact with a pedal on a tandem is
> almost always a painful experience as your partner will keep pedaling until
> you get whacked. I'd like to get a shoe that worked better and was more
> comfortable for pedaling long distances when I do use the White pedals.
> Sneakers are just OK for 1-2 hours.
> Michael
> On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:50:29 AM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote:
>> Why not use the WI pedals for long tours? Is there any special reason why
>> you dont? I was thinking on using these with the Bruce Gorden Clips for
>> tours.
>> Lee
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:47 AM, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On the tandem I tour with Keen Commuter & Speedplay Frogs, but on the
>>> single I ride White platform, half clips and NB sneakers. The Keen Austin
>>> Pedal looks nice though. The NB sneakers crowd the large Bruce Gordon
>>> clips. Has anyone tried a large (13) Austin Pedal with a large BG clip?
>>> Michael
>>> On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:27:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Jackson fan wrote:
>>>> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes
>>>> for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current
>>>> shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a
>>>> regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes
>>>> hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the
>>>> cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours
>>>> these days? thanks
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> The only reason I continue to use Frogs for touring on the tandem is that they are a bit more secure and loosing contact with a pedal on a tandem is almost always a painful experience as your partner will keep pedaling until you get whacked. I'd like to get a shoe that worked better and was more comfortable for pedaling long distances when I do use the White pedals. Sneakers are just OK for 1-2 hours.
> Michael
> On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:50:29 AM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote:
> Why not use the WI pedals for long tours? Is there any special reason why you dont? I was thinking on using these with the Bruce Gorden Clips for tours.
> Lee
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:47 AM, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the tandem I tour with Keen Commuter & Speedplay Frogs, but on the single I ride White platform, half clips and NB sneakers. The Keen Austin Pedal looks nice though. The NB sneakers crowd the large Bruce Gordon clips. Has anyone tried a large (13) Austin Pedal with a large BG clip?
> Michael
> On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:27:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Jackson fan wrote:
> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes > for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current > shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a > regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes > hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the > cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours > these days? thanks
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On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:27:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Jackson fan wrote:
> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes > for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current > shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a > regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes > hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the > cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours > these days? thanks
I've worn my Chrome Kursk Pro's (SPD) probably six days a week for 8 months. Just did a tour in Kentucky in them. Very solidly built; slightly stiffer than I'd prefer, but a good balance between long-term on the bike comfort, and short-term off the bike walkability. Generally, so much more comfortable off bike than any other SPD shoe I've tried.
On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:27:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Jackson fan wrote:
> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes > for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current > shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a > regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes > hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the > cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours > these days? thanks
I love my Kursk's. Just wish the cleat was recessed more on the Pro version. I have an early model so maybe they've modified the later versions. I definitely get cleat contact with the ground when I walk in them.
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Subject: {BL} Re: any ideas on touring shoes?
Chrome Kursks gave me hotspots within 5 minutes, really odd!
I'll try them again, though. My feet have changed a little bit
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On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:50:29 AM UTC-5, Lee Legrand wrote:
> Why not use the WI pedals for long tours? Is there any special reason why > you dont? I was thinking on using these with the Bruce Gorden Clips for > tours.
> Lee
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:47 AM, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On the tandem I tour with Keen Commuter & Speedplay Frogs, but on the >> single I ride White platform, half clips and NB sneakers. The Keen Austin >> Pedal looks nice though. The NB sneakers crowd the large Bruce Gordon >> clips. Has anyone tried a large (13) Austin Pedal with a large BG clip? >> Michael
>> On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:27:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Jackson fan wrote:
>>> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes >>> for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current >>> shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a >>> regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes >>> hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the >>> cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours >>> these days? thanks
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> Not to perpetuate this thread/topic, but I recently read an old Bicycle >> Quarterly article about results of a survey of riders in the 2007 >> Paris-Brest-Paris brevet. There were descriptive statistics on >> equipment-frame material, packs, fenders, clothing, correlations of >> equipment with finish times and DNF rates, etc. Shoes and cleats were one >> thing not addressed; eg. how many used clipless. Though PBP is not >> comparable to the type of touring a lot of us here do, I would be curious >> about that.
I like an Adidas sneaker called "Team" or "Team Adidas." They come in a
variety of uppers. I have one in a tough mesh and another in leather. The
sole is smooth-surfaced and a multilayer rubber that is hard - you don't
feel pedal ridges much nor pebbles. Much stiffer than a sneaker, much
narrower and smoother than a running shoe and most MTB shoes. The slip
nicely into or out of toe clips even if you have the straps snug but not
tight. Even tight, the shoe extracts readily - you're not going to fall
over due to foot entrapment. I've used them a lot with Lyotard Berthet,
MKS touring platforms (AR-9?), some customized Lyotard quills, Campy
C-record Strada touring platforms, and Campy Record Strada quills. Long
day rides (metrics and longer) are best on a touring pedal like the
C-record or Berthet.
The leather uppers are a little better for cold weather, providing some
wind break for the foot.
These shoes accept Gore or Pearl over-booties pretty nicely.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Fai Mao <i.am.fai....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have found the concept of "Stiff shoes" to be one of those marketing
> things similar to "New and Improved" or "8 vitamins and minerals
> added"
> I do not own a car. Thus I commute or tour every where I go. I can
> tell no difference in efficiency or speed using clip-less pedals or
> riding in sneakers with toe-clips or Power-grips
> Try a set of power-grips - they come with pedals, and a pair of court
> shoes with a fairly thick sole. You can ride in them all day and
> walking is not a problem. No hot spots, Your feet feel secure on the
> pedals and you can ride in almost any shoe.
> On Jun 12, 2:27 am, Bob Jackson fan <frankscomme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes
> > for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current
> > shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a
> > regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes
> > hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the
> > cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours
> > these days? thanks
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I use campus shoes. Good on my hybrid trek for day rides to 75 miles approximate full kit 65 lbs bike and stuff. Cheap (40 buck) walk able. Rugged. His able ..sort of..there is zero traction between the cleat and the granite domes in toulomne meadows...( do not ask detail lets just leave this to a Simpson moment).
I wear Keen Newport H2 (non-bike) sandals, which I use with platform
pedals. They have an enclosed toe, which offers protection from wind
and obstacles, and they work in all sorts of weather: barefoot if it's
really hot, and with socks of increasing thickness as it gets colder.
I wore them in April in 38-degree weather in rain against a stiff wind
for about 2 hours, with a thick pair of Smartwool socks, and while I
won't say the ride was much fun, I can say that my feet stayed warm.
If it's really wet and cold I keep a pair of Sealskinz waterproof
socks in my pannier. I gave up on enclosed shoes for touring after
wearing a pair on tour in Ireland a couple years ago and realizing
that I had to stop and drain my shoes each time we had a hard rain.
Brian
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM, MikeDaBike <beachmi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I use campus shoes. Good on my hybrid trek for day rides to 75 miles approximate full kit 65 lbs bike and stuff. Cheap (40 buck) walk able. Rugged. His able ..sort of..there is zero traction between the cleat and the granite domes in toulomne meadows...( do not ask detail lets just leave this to a Simpson moment).
My wife and I just tandem cycle toured ~600 miles from Copenhagen to Liegge with them and they were excellent to both cycle in on 65 mile days and then the next day to walk around old towns sightseeing. They fit her well, I needed either a thick pair of socks or two thin SmartWool socks, but I have thin feet. The clatter of the cleats was minimal and you generally forgot they were cleated cycling shoes, and we felt comfortable wearing them into a good restaurant.
We wanted to take only one pair of shoes. Finding the Shimano touring shoe soles too stiff to walk in, we mail ordered 10 different SPD cycling shoes to test, including: Mission Workshop Rondel, Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seek, 3, Pearl Izumi <http://www.zappos.com/pearl-izumi> Womens X-Alp Seek IV, Pearl iZUMi Men's X-Alp Drift II Spinning, Keen Austin, Exustar Men’s SRT707 Touring, Pearl iZUMi Men's & Women’s X-Alp Seek III WRX,and Quoc Pham Touring<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EVTD8U/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&t...>.
The Keen Austin is well made but grossly too wide. The Quoc Pham Touring shoe, Exustar, and WRX fit the best, provided equally minimal cleat clack, and were comfortable to walk in. The Quoc Pham was the most beautiful, but they did not have my size or a women's last. The Exustar quality did not seem on par with the others and the leather toe would wear down walking. I needed only thin cycling socks in the Exustar and Phoc Pham. The WRX seemed like the best solution for both of us, and after our trip conclude it was a great success. They got pretty wet once, but were basically dry the next day. Sizes for most shoes arre all over the place, so try many sizes of each shoe. I use a 45.5 Sidi Dominator cycling shoe and ended up with a 48 WRX. Remember, you need more toe room to walk in.
On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:27:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Jackson fan wrote:
> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes > for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current > shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a > regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes > hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the > cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours > these days? thanks
I checked the shoes out on Amazon. Depending who the seller is, size might
be a problem. As I noted in an earlier post, I use either Keen or Nashbar
sandals with speedplay frog peddles. on a trike, clip-on peddles work well
because, unlike an upright where one would pull up (a move I found
difficult), on the trike with the peddles mounted forward, one pulls back,
for me a much more ergonomic possibility. That said, I'm interested now in
the PI shoes.
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 3:28 AM, CBratina <cbrat...@optonline.net> wrote:
> *Pearl iZUMi Men's & Women’s X-Alp Seek III WRX Cycling Shoe*
> My wife and I just tandem cycle toured ~600 miles from Copenhagen to
> Liegge with them and they were excellent to both cycle in on 65 mile days
> and then the next day to walk around old towns sightseeing. They fit her
> well, I needed either a thick pair of socks or two thin SmartWool socks,
> but I have thin feet. The clatter of the cleats was minimal and you
> generally forgot they were cleated cycling shoes, and we felt comfortable
> wearing them into a good restaurant.
> We wanted to take only one pair of shoes. Finding the Shimano touring
> shoe soles too stiff to walk in, we mail ordered 10 different SPD cycling
> shoes to test, including: Mission Workshop Rondel, Pearl Izumi X-Alp
> Seek, 3, Pearl Izumi <http://www.zappos.com/pearl-izumi> Womens X-Alp
> Seek IV, Pearl iZUMi Men's X-Alp Drift II Spinning, Keen Austin, Exustar
> Men’s SRT707 Touring, Pearl iZUMi Men's & Women’s X-Alp Seek III WRX,and
> Quoc Pham Touring<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EVTD8U/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&t...>.
> The Keen Austin is well made but grossly too wide. The Quoc Pham Touring
> shoe, Exustar, and WRX fit the best, provided equally minimal cleat clack,
> and were comfortable to walk in. The Quoc Pham was the most beautiful, but
> they did not have my size or a women's last. The Exustar quality did not
> seem on par with the others and the leather toe would wear down walking. I
> needed only thin cycling socks in the Exustar and Phoc Pham. The WRX
> seemed like the best solution for both of us, and after our trip conclude
> it was a great success. They got pretty wet once, but were basically dry
> the next day. Sizes for most shoes arre all over the place, so try many
> sizes of each shoe. I use a 45.5 Sidi Dominator cycling shoe and ended up
> with a 48 WRX. Remember, you need more toe room to walk in.
> Christian Bratina
> On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:27:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Jackson fan wrote:
>> A bike store just tried to put me in fully rigid MTB carbon sole shoes
>> for a multi-day bike tour...pretty difficult to walk in. My current
>> shoes are 10+ year old Specialized, and are very flexible, like a
>> regular shoe with a cleat. And my feet in those shoes do sometimes
>> hurt in a long ride; the transmission of force from the foot to the
>> cleat is pretty localized. So what are people wearing on long tours
>> these days? thanks
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