Looks like that Planet Bike light is 2.4W. I don't have a taillight and have used it over 30mph often without it blowing, but after reading your site I may look for a 3W bulb. I don't even know if the bulb is replaceable.
That said, I seem to "outrun" the light around 16mph and maybe even slower than that. It works for city streets with city lights reflected on the atmosphere where I'm hitting 25-30mph down hills, but hit a gravel trail through the reservoir and it's scary even at 14mph.
I also notice I seem to get almost full brightness at crazy slow speeds, maybe even below 6mph, and never seems to get brighter even though drag on the hub keeps increasing.
I saw on your site where you mentioned connecting two headlights to take advantage of the extra hub power at higher speeds. I like the Supernova E3 Pro light beam examples, but see it can't be wired with another light due to it's conversion of AC to DC. Is it stupid to want to keep the PlanetBike light on as a secondary? The bike is mainly a commuter, used at night a couple times a month, hits 30ish on city streets down hills, and more around 18mph on gravel trails through the reservoir. Drag on that hub definitely increases proportionally with speed even though brightness doesn't increase.
The last question, the present commuter is an old steel road bike with panniers. It can only accomodate 700x25c tires and no fenders. I was looking at the Tout Terrain Grande Route as a commuter that might also make a Colorado to Iowa trip, as well as a cross country one. I like how you have it set up at http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/ttgr.asp and was wondering of the cost spec'ed out as on that page.
Ok, forget the light question, going to ditch that light for a single better one. But no response on:
" I was looking at the Tout Terrain Grande Route as a commuter that might also make a Colorado to Iowa trip, as well as a cross country one. I like how you have it set up at http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/ttgr.asp and was wondering of the cost spec'ed out as on that page. "
> Looks like that Planet Bike light is 2.4W. I don't have a taillight and > have used it over 30mph often without it blowing, but after reading your > site I may look for a 3W bulb. I don't even know if the bulb is > replaceable.
> That said, I seem to "outrun" the light around 16mph and maybe even slower > than that. It works for city streets with city lights reflected on the > atmosphere where I'm hitting 25-30mph down hills, but hit a gravel trail > through the reservoir and it's scary even at 14mph.
> I also notice I seem to get almost full brightness at crazy slow speeds, > maybe even below 6mph, and never seems to get brighter even though drag on > the hub keeps increasing.
> I saw on your site where you mentioned connecting two headlights to take > advantage of the extra hub power at higher speeds. I like the Supernova E3 > Pro light beam examples, but see it can't be wired with another light due > to it's conversion of AC to DC. Is it stupid to want to keep the > PlanetBike light on as a secondary? The bike is mainly a commuter, used at > night a couple times a month, hits 30ish on city streets down hills, and > more around 18mph on gravel trails through the reservoir. Drag on that hub > definitely increases proportionally with speed even though brightness > doesn't increase.
> The last question, the present commuter is an old steel road bike with > panniers. It can only accomodate 700x25c tires and no fenders. I was > looking at the Tout Terrain Grande Route as a commuter that might also make > a Colorado to Iowa trip, as well as a cross country one. I like how you > have it set up at http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/ttgr.asp and was > wondering of the cost spec'ed out as on that page.
The bike as shown isn't for sale. I photographed it just before riding it, and once I rode it, realized that the Shimano calipers were not suitable. The caliper location in the rear just doesn't work with the mechanical 505 calipers as they stick out too far and my left heel hits it. I changed them to Avid BB7 calipers and all is well.
So, as shown but with BB7 calipers and appropriate discs, the bike would cost $4,388.86
But of course every bike we sell is spec'ed out for each customer. So the best way to work up a price is to ask for the spreadsheet which lists many component options.
I've been riding this bike, as well as my Rambouillet for a while now, and I really can't decide which I like more. The Rambouillet is prettier, the Grande Route is a bit more solid. They both make me smile, even as my quads scream while I slowly get back into shape.
They don't call it "Hillsborough" for nuthin'. :-)
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:44:41 AM UTC-4, Scott DeLeeuw wrote: > I like how you have it set up at http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/ttgr.asp and >> was wondering of the cost spec'ed out as on that page.
Thank you Peter! Would you be able to send me the spreadsheet to spec it out? Not quite ready to buy, but want to budget for it and I'll probably get it through you.
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:22:51 PM UTC-6, Peter White wrote:
> The bike as shown isn't for sale. I photographed it just before riding it, > and once I rode it, realized that the Shimano calipers were not suitable. > The caliper location in the rear just doesn't work with the mechanical 505 > calipers as they stick out too far and my left heel hits it. I changed them > to Avid BB7 calipers and all is well.
> So, as shown but with BB7 calipers and appropriate discs, the bike would > cost $4,388.86
> But of course every bike we sell is spec'ed out for each customer. So the > best way to work up a price is to ask for the spreadsheet which lists many > component options.
> I've been riding this bike, as well as my Rambouillet for a while now, and > I really can't decide which I like more. The Rambouillet is prettier, the > Grande Route is a bit more solid. They both make me smile, even as my quads > scream while I slowly get back into shape.
> They don't call it "Hillsborough" for nuthin'. :-)
> PJW
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:44:41 AM UTC-4, Scott DeLeeuw wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, ISY <dbas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter,
> Any plans for a Grand Route suited for a belt?
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:22:51 PM UTC-7, Peter White wrote:
>> The bike as shown isn't for sale. I photographed it just before riding
>> it, and once I rode it, realized that the Shimano calipers were not
>> suitable. The caliper location in the rear just doesn't work with the
>> mechanical 505 calipers as they stick out too far and my left heel hits it.
>> I changed them to Avid BB7 calipers and all is well.
>> So, as shown but with BB7 calipers and appropriate discs, the bike would
>> cost $4,388.86
>> But of course every bike we sell is spec'ed out for each customer. So the
>> best way to work up a price is to ask for the spreadsheet which lists many
>> component options.
>> I've been riding this bike, as well as my Rambouillet for a while now,
>> and I really can't decide which I like more. The Rambouillet is prettier,
>> the Grande Route is a bit more solid. They both make me smile, even as my
>> quads scream while I slowly get back into shape.
>> They don't call it "Hillsborough" for nuthin'. :-)
>> PJW
>> On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:44:41 AM UTC-4, Scott DeLeeuw wrote:
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Bummer. Seems to me that they could split the stay on this and some of their other frames at nominal cost and pick up significant business from customers who trust the belt.
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:00:43 AM UTC-7, Peter White wrote:
> No.
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, ISY <dba...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>> Peter, >> Any plans for a Grand Route suited for a belt?
>> On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:22:51 PM UTC-7, Peter White wrote:
>>> The bike as shown isn't for sale. I photographed it just before riding >>> it, and once I rode it, realized that the Shimano calipers were not >>> suitable. The caliper location in the rear just doesn't work with the >>> mechanical 505 calipers as they stick out too far and my left heel hits it. >>> I changed them to Avid BB7 calipers and all is well.
>>> So, as shown but with BB7 calipers and appropriate discs, the bike would >>> cost $4,388.86
>>> But of course every bike we sell is spec'ed out for each customer. So >>> the best way to work up a price is to ask for the spreadsheet which lists >>> many component options.
>>> I've been riding this bike, as well as my Rambouillet for a while now, >>> and I really can't decide which I like more. The Rambouillet is prettier, >>> the Grande Route is a bit more solid. They both make me smile, even as my >>> quads scream while I slowly get back into shape.
>>> They don't call it "Hillsborough" for nuthin'. :-)
>>> PJW
>>> On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:44:41 AM UTC-4, Scott DeLeeuw wrote:
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The Grande Route is designed for derailleurs, and the rear derailleur includes a chain tensioner. So, if you use a belt, you have no way of tensioning the belt. So, you need to change to the eccentric bottom bracket shell. So perhaps what you're interested in is the Amber Road?
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Grande Route is designed for derailleurs, and the rear derailleur
> includes a chain tensioner. So, if you use a belt, you have no way of
> tensioning the belt. So, you need to change to the eccentric bottom bracket
> shell. So perhaps what you're interested in is the Amber Road?
> PJW
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:00:43 PM UTC-4, Peter White wrote:
>> No.
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, ISY wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>> Any plans for a Grand Route suited for a belt?
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Thanks for the reply, Peter. I forgot about the need for the eccentric in addition to the split frame. What I'm really looking for is a fast and light tourer like the Grande Route (Dedacciai tubing, 27" wheels) but set up for a belt & IGH so I can commute daily with it in the rain, day in and day out. The Amber Road has the belt but not the wheels or the frame design. The City frame is getting there, but it's not set up for a belt. Any help?
On Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:49:09 AM UTC-7, Peter White wrote:
> The Grande Route is designed for derailleurs, and the rear derailleur > includes a chain tensioner. So, if you use a belt, you have no way of > tensioning the belt. So, you need to change to the eccentric bottom bracket > shell. So perhaps what you're interested in is the Amber Road?
> PJW
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:00:43 PM UTC-4, Peter White wrote:
>> No.
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, ISY wrote:
>>> Peter, >>> Any plans for a Grand Route suited for a belt?
