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  <description>Bicycle driving and related issues. * Please comment on WHAT is said, not WHO * References to others must be limited to genuine compliments, questions to clarify intended meaning, or neutral statements of uncontroversial fact. * Do not dodge or ignore questions about positions you take.</description>
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  <title>Re: [San-Diego-Bicyclist-Forum] Fwd: Bike to Work Video</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/51ac69b05dba4898/1160596a3458fce2?show_docid=1160596a3458fce2</link>
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  &amp;lt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_piG2fv-C4Qg/TJIUMIEw3QI/AAAAAAAAC80/6OFBWav85zQ/s1600/Fat+Lane+Fast+Lane+advert.jpg&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://roadmovie.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/this-one.jpg&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; *Hello Sara and All,* &lt;br&gt; Sara posted on Chainguard: &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Neal, see the attached pics of winning infrastructure in San Antonio.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; * &lt;br&gt; I agree with you Sara* - those pictures you posted of bicycle
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  nea...@gmail.com
  (Neal)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 20:54:54 UT
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  <title>Re: [BicycleDriving] More Kari on Montreal study by Lusk et al ...</title>
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  I Kary, not Kari. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;John S. Allen &lt;br&gt; 7 University Park &lt;br&gt; Waltham, MA 02453-1523 USA &lt;br&gt; 781 891-9307 &lt;br&gt; jsal...@bikexprt.com &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bikexprt.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  jsal...@bikexprt.com
  (John S. Allen)
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  <pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 02:33:01 UT
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  <title>Re: [BicycleDriving] More Kari on Montreal study by Lusk et al ...</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/cd7cd2d0a99781da/7bfea4c6fdcd8b31?show_docid=7bfea4c6fdcd8b31</link>
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  Thanks for the correction. I confused Kary critiques of two studies of &lt;br&gt; cycle tracks in different Canadian cities. The latest letter further &lt;br&gt; undermines any slight credibility some might accord to the Teschke study
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  ajburd...@gmail.com
  (Avery)
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  <pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 02:02:24 UT
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  <title>RE: [BicycleDriving] More Kari on Montreal study by Lusk et al ...</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/cd7cd2d0a99781da/cf63e711d996776d?show_docid=cf63e711d996776d</link>
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  Actually, although the Lusk study was done in Montreal, and Kari is in &lt;br&gt; Montreal, the study being critiqued is Teschke. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Mark Ortiz &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;[mailto:bicycledriving@googleg roups.com] On Behalf Of Avery &lt;br&gt; Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:28 AM &lt;br&gt; To: bicycledriving@googlegroups.co m &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Has this been posted?
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  markortiza...@windstream.net
  (Mark Ortiz)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 20:00:17 UT
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  <title>More Kari on Montreal study by Lusk et al ...</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/cd7cd2d0a99781da/b8c5a59e6817cf8d?show_docid=b8c5a59e6817cf8d</link>
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  Has this been posted? &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/letters/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; April 4, 2013 &lt;br&gt; ... and this is only part 1 concerning method weaknesses and follows other &lt;br&gt; data errors and omissions as previously covered on this forum (Allen, Pein &lt;br&gt; ...)!
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  ajburd...@gmail.com
  (Avery)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 13:28:06 UT
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  <title>Re: [San-Diego-Bicyclist-Forum] Fwd: Bike to Work Video</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/51ac69b05dba4898/22983f3e386fe867?show_docid=22983f3e386fe867</link>
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  Her helmet straps need to be adjusted if she wants to protect her head and &lt;br&gt; not tear off an ear. If there are 3 lanes going in your direction plus a &lt;br&gt; share the road sign...take the lane. I find in urban traffic with frequent &lt;br&gt; starting and stopping that clip in pedals are a pain.
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  sreid...@sbcglobal.net
  (Sara R)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 04:01:59 UT
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  <title>Re: [San-Diego-Bicyclist-Forum] Fwd: Bike to Work Video</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/51ac69b05dba4898/bb2d697095f5d227?show_docid=bb2d697095f5d227</link>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://vimeo.com/imagerywithimpact/biketowork&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;The cyclist rides in the gutter, in the door zone, on the sidewalk, even &lt;br&gt; (at one point) in the gutter on the left hand side of the road. At another &lt;br&gt; point this results in what looks like an unsafe attempt, by an SUV, to pass &lt;br&gt; (at 2:53 - obviously staged, as it&#39;s the same car as at 2:51, but in a
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  ianbrettcoo...@gmail.com
  (Ian Cooper)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 16:31:07 UT
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  <title>Pinch-Point Documentary Film</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/55942bd74e1b5462/618031cd558ef762?show_docid=618031cd558ef762</link>
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  Motorists and cyclists in Cambridge, England &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcKvBONpxgw&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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  rmsh...@gmail.com
  (Bob Shanteau)
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  <pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 20:42:01 UT
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  <title>Re: [BicycleDriving] The Fight Is Over - VC vs Bicycle Infrastructure - Bicycle Infrastructure Won</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/5ff0f01854c7c53a/e1983fa7a19e3d07?show_docid=e1983fa7a19e3d07</link>
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  Neal exposes his ideological limitations in these comments. The NYC &lt;br&gt; report was not about &amp;quot;bicycle infrastructure&amp;quot;, but about a wide range of &lt;br&gt; street changes done so close to simultaneously that there is no way to &lt;br&gt; separate out the contributions of each component. As I have remarked &lt;br&gt; before, it is not very likely that a sidepath running alongside a park
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  fores...@johnforester.com
  (John Forester)
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  <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 16:36:54 UT
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  <title>Re: [BicycleDriving] The Fight Is Over - VC vs Bicycle Infrastructure - Bicycle Infrastructure Won</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/5ff0f01854c7c53a/4c99e4ce07640a45?show_docid=4c99e4ce07640a45</link>
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  Ad hominem but Neal needs to meet Dexter. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Sent from my iPad
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  wharea...@gmail.com
  (Richard Wharton)
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  <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 03:06:03 UT
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  <title>The Fight Is Over - VC vs Bicycle Infrastructure - Bicycle Infrastructure Won</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/5ff0f01854c7c53a/2e9ceac3e0a1bbbc?show_docid=2e9ceac3e0a1bbbc</link>
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  *Posted to &#39;Chainguard&#39; forum: &lt;br&gt; * &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;** &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;*Hello Andy, Steve, Jack, and All,* &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Jack posted: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt; “Lastly, please understand that this list is for the specific purpose of &lt;br&gt; promoting and protecting Vehicular Cycling - and has no other purpose &lt;br&gt; whatsoever. No matter how noble any other cause may be, it is not a topic
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  nea...@gmail.com
  (Neal)
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  <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 02:51:13 UT
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  <title>Re: [BicycleDriving] Re: LAB publishes FTR apologia</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/f10ab723ed1153e6/d3b9d6e960ec29b8?show_docid=d3b9d6e960ec29b8</link>
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  hfebelin...@lycos.com
  (Herman F. Ebeling, Jr.)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 04:23:29 UT
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  <title>Re: [BicycleDriving] LAB publishes FTR apologia</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/f10ab723ed1153e6/f73c383e9f15b58f?show_docid=f73c383e9f15b58f</link>
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  This is LAB&#39;s excuses for defending the FTR laws. This shows the extent &lt;br&gt; to which LAB depends on cyclist-inferiority cycling instead of &lt;br&gt; advocating the rights of cyclists. A pretty sorry pair of excuses these are. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;LAB claims that the FTR law is &amp;quot;essential&amp;quot; to tell cyclists which way to &lt;br&gt; ride on the roadway. The FTR law is unnecessary; I always thought that
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  fores...@johnforester.com
  (John Forester)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 23:49:54 UT
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  <title>Re: LAB publishes FTR apologia</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/f10ab723ed1153e6/f730054a2705fb0d?show_docid=f730054a2705fb0d</link>
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  I want to know why motorized vehicles need so much help to pass &lt;br&gt; bicyclists..The rider in the pic is practically in the gutter pan and there &lt;br&gt; are multiple lanes going in each direction. I also think that LAB needs to &lt;br&gt; update the recommendation to ride in the right hand third of a lane (fine &lt;br&gt; if the lane is wide) bad idea in a standard width lane, and there aren&#39;t
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  sreid...@sbcglobal.net
  (Sara R)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 21:19:21 UT
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  <title>NY Times article on cycling education</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/bicycledriving/browse_thread/thread/db4a9a8f1594df18/15518e3c8c3c71f9?show_docid=15518e3c8c3c71f9</link>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/nyregion/bike-riding-in-city-traffic-take-notes-please.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&amp;_r=0&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Yield to pedestrians in crosswalks (marked or unmarked) yes, otherwise no. &lt;br&gt; Why ride close enough to a cab to get doored in the first place? I &lt;br&gt; couldn&#39;t tell by the article what they might actually be teaching.
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  sreid...@sbcglobal.net
  (Sara R)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 21:11:19 UT
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