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Pradeep.Bhandari Bhandari
Aug 15, 2010, 9:30:30 AM8/15/10
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Dear All,
I agree with the views express on the media by 'Shankar Dutt Fulara'. I generally don't watchTelevision except Aastha or Sanskar channel. If print and electronic media was vigilant our country would not have remain poor even after 63 years of Independence. The reason for saying is that media at the time of election says that country is not having any issue.
One cann't have a bigger joke than this, issues exist everywhere in this country whether pertaining to water, electricity, road, law and order, corruption, unemployment, inflation and so on.
If media was responsible perhaps they could have shown no. of times program on bharat Swabhiman to show the people of this country that this is the way forward.
One cann't have a bigger joke than this, issues exist everywhere in this country whether pertaining to water, electricity, road, law and order, corruption, unemployment, inflation and so on.
If media was responsible perhaps they could have shown no. of times program on bharat Swabhiman to show the people of this country that this is the way forward.
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:54 PM, <bharatswabhima...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Himanshu Bisht <spyhi...@gmail.com> Aug 05 12:03PM +0530 ^
Jai Ho !!
THE MOST advanced computers are unlikely to cost beyond '60,000 - and that
is a fact that everyone except the Commonwealth Games Organising Committee
(OC) is well aware of.
How else does one explain the fact that the OC paid an astronomical '89,502
per computer as "rent" for 45 days, when it could have easily bought the
machines for '50,000-60,000? Headlines Today has unearthed a preposterous
scam which highlights the manner in which the taxpayers' money is pocketed
by corrupt officials in the name of Commonwealth Games.
*The Con Games<http://in.news.yahoo.com/248/20100802/1601/tsp-the-con-games.html>
*
And it's not just computers that have been hired at such exorbitant rates.
A liquid soap dispenser, which should not cost more than '460, has been
hired for '3,397. The OC has rented 2,883 such units.
Documents of the OC's murky dealings have revealed that it has rented 6,218
six-ampere plug points at '1,219 per unit. But a market survey would easily
establish that the maximum a plug point can cost is '75.
As many as 970 pedestal fans have been rented at '4,412 each.
The list price of the most exorbitantly priced fan does not exceed '4,500.
Similarly, the OC is hiring mosquito repellents for '135 each as against
their unit price of '100.
Rent for 43 ice-making machines cost the OC about '46 lakh, at '1,06,279 per
unit, when these could easily have been purchased for '1.5 lakh.
Beleaguered OC chairman Suresh Kalmadi has denied the charges of corruption
but is at a loss to explain the fraud. The deals, after all, took place only
after the OC gave the go-ahead.
A list of 500 such items were rented at a total of '650 crore.
The OC, however, remains defiant in the face of all allegations of
corruption. It has maintained that it has followed proper procedures and
contracts were awarded to the "lowest bidders". "The contracts were allotted
on a competitive bidding basis," committee secretary general Lalit Bhanot
said.
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Rgds/Himanshu
B P DOBHAL <dobh...@gmail.com> Aug 05 02:58PM +0530 ^
shame shame.........................................................................CWG
Mohan Lal <kusal...@gmail.com> Aug 05 08:31PM +0530 ^
THANks. ive shared this & requested to all my frnds in Facebook to share it
further.
Right now this is possible from me. let them at least be aware.
rgds,
Monu.
Topic: Sanskrit Classesdsp_d...@engineer.com Aug 05 07:00AM -0400 ^
इसमें गलतिया होंगी तो कृपा करके बतायी|
Words :
१)एहम ->में
२)त्वं -> तुम
३)किम -> क्या
४) मम ->मेरा
५)आसीत् ->है
६) धन्योस्मिः ->धन्यवाद
७) पुनर्मिलामः ->फिर मिलेंगे
८)भारतः ->भारत
Sentences :
१)मम नाम भारतः आसीत् ->मेरा नाम भारत है
२)त्वं नाम किम आसीत्? ->तुम्हारा नाम क्या है
Jai Bharat!
Shailesh Gaikwad
Words :
१)एहम ->में
२)त्वं -> तुम
३)किम -> क्या
४) मम ->मेरा
५)आसीत् ->है
६) धन्योस्मिः ->धन्यवाद
७) पुनर्मिलामः ->फिर मिलेंगे
८)भारतः ->भारत
Sentences :
१)मम नाम भारतः आसीत् ->मेरा नाम भारत है
२)त्वं नाम किम आसीत्? ->तुम्हारा नाम क्या है
Jai Bharat!
Shailesh Gaikwad
Aastha <divyaaa...@gmail.com> Aug 05 12:12PM +0530 ^
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: viji123 <vij...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 07:03:25 -0000
Subject: [bm] Indian Express - Who is Sohrabuddin
To: bharatud...@yahoogroups.com
Here is an article written by Dovalji and published in Indian Express.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/complicated-encounters/655825/0
Complicated encounters
Ajit Kumar Doval
Aug 04 2010
Beware of half truths — because you may be holding the wrong half.
After having seen and read so much about the Sohrabuddin episode in
the last five years, one might believe one knows it all. Sohrabuddin
is now cast as an innocent victim of police excess.
However, it would be worthwhile to explore the real facts about
Sohrabuddin, the nature of police encounters, and the real issues at
stake. Sohrabuddin was an underworld gangster who was involved in
nearly two dozen serious criminal offences in states of Gujarat,
Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra. He maintained transnational
links with anti-India forces from the early `90s onwards, until his
death in 2005. Working with mafia dons like Dawood Ibrahim and Abdul
Latif, he procured weapons and explosives from Pakistan and supplied
them to various terrorist and anti-national groups (had it not been
for his activity, at least some terrorist acts could have been
averted). Sohrabuddin was solidly entrenched in the criminal world for
a decade-and-a-half. Around the time he was killed, the Rajasthan
government had announced a reward on his head. In 1999, he had been
detained under the National Security Act by the Madhya Pradesh
government.
In a 1994 case investigated by the Ahmedabad crime branch, he was
co-accused along with Dawood Ibrahim and convicted for five years, for
waging war against the Government of India, planning an attack on the
Jagannath rath yatra in Orissa, and other offences under the IPC, Arms
Act, etc. During the investigation, 24 AK-56 rifles, 27 hand grenades,
5250 cartridges, 81 magazines and more were seized from his family
home in Madhya Pradesh. In 2004, a fourth crime was registered against
him by Chandgad police station of Kolhapur district in Maharashtra
under sections 302, 120 (b), and 25 (1) (3) of the Arms Act, for the
killing of Gopal Tukaram Badivadekar. As fear of him often silenced
people from reporting his whereabouts, let alone deposing against him,
the Rajasthan government had to announce a reward on his head after he
killed Hamid Lata in broad daylight in the heart of Udaipur, on
December 31, 2004. So much for Sohrabuddin's innocence.
However, irrespective of who Sohrabuddin was and what he did, the use
of unaccountable force against him is indefensible is the public view
of many (often at variance with their private view). There are many
who feel that there is a higher rationale for such actions in
compelling circumstances, as the law of the land has repeatedly found
itself helpless in dealing with individuals bent on bleeding the
country. Their argument, that the rule of law is a means to an end and
not an end in itself, often finds support in the jurisprudential
principles of salus populi est suprema lex (the people's welfare is
the supreme law) and salus res publica est suprema lex (the safety of
the nation is supreme law). Even the Supreme Court of India, in the
case of D.K. Basu vs. State of West Bengal [1997 (1) SCC 416] accepted
the validity of these two principles and characterised them as "not
only important and relevant, but lying at the heart of the doctrine
that welfare of an individual must yield to that of the community."
The validity of the principles of salus populi est suprema lex and
salus res publica est suprema lex could have been part of an
enlightened national discourse, and what could be the governing
instrumentalities, empowerments, legal checks and stringent processes
if these principles were to be invoked. It is better to accept reality
as it is and then strive to change it for the better, rather than what
we wish it to be. Feigned ignorance is the worst type of hypocrisy.
But there is another vital question that needs to be addressed. While
pursuing the Sohrabuddin case, was the government really serious about
stopping the menace of fake encounters, or was it pursuing a different
agenda? Encounters have been taking place all over the country under
all regimes, at times degenerating into what are called fake
encounters. Between 2000 and 2007 there have been 712 cases of police
encounters in the country with UP topping the list at 324, and Gujarat
figuring almost at the bottom with 17.
In some of the cases there was not much on record, even to establish
the criminal past of those killed. Settling political scores through
security and investigative agencies like the CBI is not only bad
politics, but also destructive for the nation's security. To convey
the impression (explicitly or implicitly) that Sohrabuddin was
targeted for belonging to a particular community, thereby creating a
sense of insecurity in a section of society, is detrimental to
national interests. It is little known that a large number of
Sohrabuddin's victims were Muslims while a good number of his closest
associates (including Tulsiram Prajapati, who was also killed in a
similar encounter), were Hindu. William Blake could not have been more
right when he said that "a truth that is pursued with bad intent beats
all the lies you can invent".
The other negative impact of the Sohrabuddin case is the impression it
is creating that all encounters in which police and security forces
are involved, are fake. Society needs to be reassured that the
majority of encounters are genuine and mostly in response to murderous
attacks on security personnel. The fact that, on average, over 1,200
policemen get killed every year grappling with terrorists, insurgents,
underworld mafia and other anti-social elements, bears ample testimony
to this fact. Playing up a few aberrations and blowing them out of
proportion and presenting them as the only truth is not in the
national interest.
The other downside of the publicity around such cases is that it
erodes the people's trust in governance. Administrations begin to be
seen as instruments of repression and self-aggrandisement and
politicians as perceived as manipulating their power for political and
personal gains. This erosion can lead to a dangerous delegitimisation
of the polity. Democratic politics is an exercise in
regime-legitimisation, and to lose the confidence of the governed
would set the government on a self-destructive path.
The writer is former director of the Intelligence Bureau
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आस्था
B P DOBHAL <dobh...@gmail.com> Aug 05 11:42AM +0530 ^
kirpeya hindi mai baije
HARIHARA SUBRAMANIAN <hsubram...@yahoo.co.in> Aug 05 10:41AM +0530 ^
HSMani
--- On Thu, 5/8/10, Ananthanarayanan Vaidyanathan <kvanantha...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ananthanarayanan Vaidyanathan <kvanantha...@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: this one is really important!!
To:
Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 7:38 AM
Dear FriendsSir/Madam ,
SPARE 5-MINUTES from ur busy schedule .PLEASE !!!
Lt. Saurabh Kalia of 4 JAT Regiment of the Indian Army laid down his
life at the young age of 22 for the nation while guarding the
frontiers at Kargil.
His parents, indeed the Indian Army and nation itself,
lost a dedicated, honest and brave son.
He was the first officer to detect and inform about
Pakistani intrusion. Pakistan captured him and his patrol party of 5
brave men alive on May 15, 1999 from the Indian side of LOC.
They were kept in captivity for three weeks and
subjected to unprecedented brutal torture, evident from their bodies handed over
by Pakistan Army on June 9, 1999.
The Pakistanis indulged in dastardly acts of inflicting burns on these Indian officers with cigarettes, piercing their ears with hot rods, removing their eyes before puncturing them and breaking most of the bones and teeth.
They even chopped off various limbs and private organs of the Indian soldiers besides inflicting unimaginable physical and mental torture.
After 22 days of torture, the brave soldiers were ultimately shot dead. A detailed post-mortem report is with the Indian Army. Pakistan dared to humiliate India this way flouting all international norms.
They proved the extent to which they can degrade humanity. However, the Indian soldiers did not break while undergoing all this unimaginable barbarism, which speaks volumes of their patriotism, grit, determination, tenacity and valour - something all of India should be proud of.
Sacrificing oneself for the nation is an honour every soldier would be proud of, but no parent, army or nation can accept what happened to these brave sons of India. I am afraid every parent may think twice to send their child in the armed forces if we all fall short of our duty in safeguarding the PRISONERS OF WAR AND LET THEM MEET THE FATE OF LT..SAURABH KALIA.
It may also send a demoralising signal to the army personnel fighting for the Nation that our POWs in Pak cannot be taken care of. It is a matter of shame and disgust that most of Indian Human Rights Organisations by and large, showed apathy in this matter.
Through this humble submission, may I appeal to all the civilized people irrespective of colour, caste, region, religion and political lineage to stir their conscience and rise to take this as a NATIONAL ISSUE !!!
International Human Rights Organizations must be approached to expose and pressure Pakistan to identify, book and punish all those who perpetrated this heinous crime to our men in uniform.
If Pakistan is allowed to go unpunished in this case, we can only imagine the consequences.
Below is the list of 5 other soldiers who preferred to die for the country rather than open their mouths in front of enemy -
1. Sep. Arjun Ram s/o Sh. Chokka Ram; Village & PO
Gudi. Teh. & Dist.
Nagaur, (Rajasthan)
2. Sep. Bhanwar Lal Bagaria h/o Smt. Santosh Devi;
Village Sivelara;Teh.&
Dist.Sikar (Rajasthan)
3. Sep. Bhikaram h/o Smt. Bhawri Devi; Village
Patasar; Teh.
Pachpatva;Distt.Barmer (Rajasthan)
4. Sep. Moola Ram h/o Smt. Rameshwari Devi; Village
Katori; Teh. Jayal;Dist.
Nagaur(Rajasthan)
5. Sep. Naresh Singh h/o Smt.. Kalpana Devi; Village
Chhoti Tallam;
Teh.Iglab; Dist.Aligarh (UP)
Yours truly,
Dr. N.K. Kalia (Lt. Saurabh Kalia's father).
Saurabh Nagar,
Palampur-176061
Himachal Pradesh
Tel: +91 (01894) 32065
Please sign in by writing your name and then copy and
paste it again to forward it to your friends and relatives. Let us give a supporting hand to Dr. Kalia in his efforts to get justice.
Remember, Lt. Kalia and his colleagues died on the front so that we could
sleep peacefully in our homes.
PLEASE DON'T BREAK THE ONWARD MOVEMENT OF THIS MAIL.
WE SEND ALL SORTS OF SILLY MAILS TO OUR FRIENDS WHICH
COMPEL ONE TO FORWARD BY SAYING THAT IT MAY HARM YOU IF YOU WON'T DO SO. BUT
HERE IT IS NOTHING LIKE THAT, IT WILL ONLY BE YOU WHO WILL FEEL
SATISFIED IF YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE.
JAI HIND ....Victory to India !!
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250. Abhishek Chadda; Mysore
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252. Santhosh Chandran;Bangalore
253. Balakrishnan.K , Chennai
254. Brij Lal, Dari-Dharamsala, Himachal Pradesh
255. Amit Katoch, Palampur (HP). India
256. Tarun Kumar, Chandigarh (U.T.)
257. ROMESH RAINA, CHANDIGARH
258. NARENDRA KUMAR, BHOPAL
259. Sandeep Bansal, Panipat
260. AJAY SINGLA, PANIPAT
261. Puneet Abrol (Panipat, Haryana)
262. Aman Khurana,Punjab(India)
263. Sanjay Sharma, Delhi, India.
264.. Dipankar Dasgupta, Delhi,India
265. Prachi Dubey, New Delhi, INDIA
266. Sameer Sharma, New Delhi, INDIA
267. Subhash Chandra, New Delhi, India
268. Dinesh Kumar, New Delhi, India
269. Siddharth Khosla, New Delhi, India
270. Subhash Rathee, Rohtak, Haryana, India
271. Rishi Aggarwal,Delhi,India
272. Amit Garg,TX, US
273.. Ashutosh Rastogi Texas,USA
274. Anjana Rastogi Texas , USA
275. Sonal Gupta, New Delhi, India
276. Rohit Sharma, New Delhi,India
277. Nikhil Salvi, Mumbai, India
278. Suraj Komnak, Mumbai, India.
279. Raman Saroya, Mumbai, India
280. Gurmanjot Kaur Bains, Punjab, India.
281. Tejpreet Singh Dulat, Punjab, India
282. Hardeep Singh Kamboj,Punjab,India
283. Harpreet Dheendsa,Brampton,Canada
284. Suninder deep,chandigarh india
285. Vishwas Thakur,Oviedo,Florida,USA
286. Varun Sodhi,Gurgaon,Haryana,India
287. Priti Chawla,Jalandhar, Punjab, India
289. Navneet Sharma, Pune
290. Nitesh Kumar, Pune
291. Sumit Kumar, KPIT Cummins Infosystems Ltd., Pune, India
292. Ninad Deo KPITCUMMINS Infosystems Ltd., Pune, India
293. Abhay Gomarkar
294.. Neha Raste
295. Tejas Vaidya Pune , India.
296. Poonam Jeevan, Pune
297. Gaurav Dhawan, pune
298. Joyjit Bhattacharya , New Delhi, India
299. Manoj Verma, G urgaon, BHARAT
300. Anoop Kumar Rawat, Noida, India
301. Shovick Bhattacharya, Noida, India
302. Rajesh Kumar Singh, Noida, India
303. Hardeep Singh, Gzb, India
304. Vikas Chaudhary, Gzb, India
305. Capt Girish Kumar Gandhi, India
306 Gaurav Narang, Delhi, India
307 Arvinder Singh, Delhi, India
308. Jitender Singh, Delhi, India
309. Arvind Gupta, Ahmedabad, India.
310. Amritpal Singh -- Nerul, Navi Mumbai
311. Kavita Mohan, Mumbai - India
312. Mohan Sahasranaman, Mumbai - India
313. Ratna Mukundan, Mumbai - India
314. K Mukundan, Mumbai- India
315. Apurva Parekh, Mumbai, India.
316. Pooja A Singh, Mumbai, India.
317. Capt. Harrsharanjit Singh, Mumbai, India.
318. Naina Kapur,Mumbai India
319.Amandeep Singh, Mumbai, INDIA
320. M.K.Karunakaran , Mumbai, INDIA
321. Shenthil Elango, Trichy, INDIA.
322.C.V.S.Bharadwaj , Hyderabad, INDIA.
323. Srinivas A, Bangalore, India
324 sunil kelahatti , Bangalore, India< BR>325
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326 Divakar B.S., Bangalore, India
327 Madhusudhana Rao.D Bangalore INDIA.
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Topic: Who is Soharabuddin?HARIHARA SUBRAMANIAN <hsubram...@yahoo.co.in> Aug 04 11:14PM +0530 ^
During the past few days the entire media controlled by the corporate sector and the Congress Govt in power have been trying to brainwash the public that the Narendra Modi's Govt in Gujarat has committed a henious crime, that an innocent couple belonging to the so called minority community had been brutally murdered in a fake encounter etc etc.
Who is this Shorabuddin? It is time the public know the truth and what he really was.
Complicated encounters
Ajit Kumar Doval
The writer is former director of the Intelligence Bureau
Aug 04 2010
Beware of half truths — because you may be holding the wrong half. After having seen and read so much about the Sohrabuddin episode in the last five years, one might believe one knows it all. Sohrabuddin is now cast as an innocent victim of police excess.
However, it would be worthwhile to explore the real facts about Sohrabuddin, the nature of police encounters, and the real issues at stake. Sohrabuddin was an underworld gangster who was involved in nearly two dozen serious criminal offences in states of Gujarat, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra. He maintained transnational links with anti-India forces from the early ‘90s onwards, until his death in 2005. Working with mafia dons like Dawood Ibrahim and Abdul Latif, he procured weapons and explosives from Pakistan and supplied them to various terrorist and anti-national groups (had it not been for his activity, at least some terrorist acts could have been averted). Sohrabuddin was solidly entrenched in the criminal world for a decade-and-a- half. Around the time he was killed, the Rajasthan government had announced a reward on his head. In 1999, he had been detained under the National Security Act by the Madhya Pradesh government.
In a 1994 case investigated by the Ahmedabad crime branch, he was co-accused along with Dawood Ibrahim and convicted for five years, for waging war against the Government of India, planning an attack on the Jagannath rath yatra in Orissa, and other offences under the IPC, Arms Act, etc. During the investigation, 24 AK-56 rifles, 27 hand grenades, 5250 cartridges, 81 magazines and more were seized from his family home in Madhya Pradesh. In 2004, a fourth crime was registered against him by Chandgad police station of Kolhapur district in Maharashtra under sections 302, 120 (b), and 25 (1) (3) of the Arms Act, for the killing of Gopal Tukaram Badivadekar. As fear of him often silenced people from reporting his whereabouts, let alone deposing against him, the Rajasthan government had to announce a reward on his head after he killed Hamid Lata in broad daylight in the heart of Udaipur, on December 31, 2004. So much for Sohrabuddin’s innocence.
However, irrespective of who Sohrabuddin was and what he did, the use of unaccountable force against him is indefensible is the public view of many (often at variance with their private view). There are many who feel that there is a higher rationale for such actions in compelling circumstances, as the law of the land has repeatedly found itself helpless in dealing with individuals bent on bleeding the country. Their argument, that the rule of law is a means to an end and not an end in itself, often finds support in the jurisprudential principles of salus populi est suprema lex (the people’s welfare is the supreme law) and salus res publica est suprema lex (the safety of the nation is supreme law). Even the Supreme Court of India, in the case of D.K. Basu vs. State of West Bengal [1997 (1) SCC 416] accepted the validity of these two principles and characterised them as “not only important and relevant, but lying at the heart of the doctrine that
welfare of an individual must yield to that of the community.” The validity of the principles of salus populi est suprema lex and salus res publica est suprema lex could have been part of an enlightened national discourse, and what could be the governing instrumentalities, empowerments, legal checks and stringent processes if these principles were to be invoked. It is better to accept reality as it is and then strive to change it for the better, rather than what we wish it to be. Feigned ignorance is the worst type of hypocrisy.
But there is another vital question that needs to be addressed. While pursuing the Sohrabuddin case, was the government really serious about stopping the menace of fake encounters, or was it pursuing a different agenda? Encounters have been taking place all over the country under all regimes, at times degenerating into what are called fake encounters. Between 2000 and 2007 there have been 712 cases of police encounters in the country with UP topping the list at 324, and Gujarat figuring almost at the bottom with 17.
In some of the cases there was not much on record, even to establish the criminal past of those killed. Settling political scores through security and investigative agencies like the CBI is not only bad politics, but also destructive for the nation’s security. To convey the impression (explicitly or implicitly) that Sohrabuddin was targeted for belonging to a particular community, thereby creating a sense of insecurity in a section of society, is detrimental to national interests. It is little known that a large number of Sohrabuddin’s victims were Muslims while a good number of his closest associates (including Tulsiram Prajapati, who was also killed in a similar encounter), were Hindu. William Blake could not have been more right when he said that “a truth that is pursued with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent”.
The other negative impact of the Sohrabuddin case is the impression it is creating that all encounters in which police and security forces are involved, are fake. Society needs to be reassured that the majority of encounters are genuine and mostly in response to murderous attacks on security personnel. The fact that, on average, over 1,200 policemen get killed every year grappling with terrorists, insurgents, underworld mafia and other anti-social elements, bears ample testimony to this fact. Playing up a few aberrations and blowing them out of proportion and presenting them as the only truth is not in the national interest.
The other downside of the publicity around such cases is that it erodes the people’s trust in governance. Administrations begin to be seen as instruments of repression and self-aggrandisement and politicians as perceived as manipulating their power for political and personal gains. This erosion can lead to a dangerous delegitimisation of the polity. Democratic politics is an exercise in regime-legitimisati on, and to lose the confidence of the governed would set the government on a self-destructive path.
The writer is former director of the Intelligence Bureau
HSMani
himanshu sharma <lic_hi...@yahoo.com> Aug 05 09:28AM +0530 ^
Shoarabuddin is CANCER for India.
--- On Wed, 4/8/10, HARIHARA SUBRAMANIAN <hsubram...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: HARIHARA SUBRAMANIAN <hsubram...@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [BST] Who is Soharabuddin?
To: bharatswab...@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 11:14 PM
During the past few days the entire media controlled by the corporate sector and the Congress Govt in power have been trying to brainwash the public that the Narendra Modi's Govt in Gujarat has committed a henious crime, that an innocent couple belonging to the so called minority community had been brutally murdered in a fake encounter etc etc.
Who is this Shorabuddin? It is time the public know the truth and what he really was.
Complicated encounters
Ajit Kumar Doval
The writer is former director of the Intelligence Bureau
Aug 04 2010
Beware of half truths — because you may be holding the wrong half. After having seen and read so much about the Sohrabuddin episode in the last five years, one might believe one knows it all. Sohrabuddin is now cast as an innocent victim of police excess.
However, it would be worthwhile to explore the real facts about Sohrabuddin, the nature of police encounters, and the real issues at stake. Sohrabuddin was an underworld gangster who was involved in nearly two dozen serious criminal offences in states of Gujarat, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra. He maintained transnational links with anti-India forces from the early ‘90s onwards, until his death in 2005. Working with mafia dons like Dawood Ibrahim and Abdul Latif, he procured weapons and explosives from Pakistan and supplied them to various terrorist and anti-national groups (had it not been for his activity, at least some terrorist acts could have been averted). Sohrabuddin was solidly entrenched in the criminal world for a decade-and-a- half. Around the time he was killed, the Rajasthan government had announced a reward on his head. In 1999, he had been detained under the National Security Act by the Madhya Pradesh government.
In a 1994 case investigated by the Ahmedabad crime branch, he was co-accused along with Dawood Ibrahim and convicted for five years, for waging war against the Government of India, planning an attack on the Jagannath rath yatra in Orissa, and other offences under the IPC, Arms Act, etc. During the investigation, 24 AK-56 rifles, 27 hand grenades, 5250 cartridges, 81 magazines and more were seized from his family home in Madhya Pradesh. In 2004, a fourth crime was registered against him by Chandgad police station of Kolhapur district in Maharashtra under sections 302, 120 (b), and 25 (1) (3) of the Arms Act, for the killing of Gopal Tukaram Badivadekar. As fear of him often silenced people from reporting his whereabouts, let alone deposing against him, the Rajasthan government had to announce a reward on his head after he killed Hamid Lata in broad daylight in the heart of Udaipur, on December 31, 2004. So much for Sohrabuddin’s innocence.
However, irrespective of who Sohrabuddin was and what he did, the use of unaccountable force against him is indefensible is the public view of many (often at variance with their private view). There are many who feel that there is a higher rationale for such actions in compelling circumstances, as the law of the land has repeatedly found itself helpless in dealing with individuals bent on bleeding the country. Their argument, that the rule of law is a means to an end and not an end in itself, often finds support in the jurisprudential principles of salus populi est suprema lex (the people’s welfare is the supreme law) and salus res publica est suprema lex (the safety of the nation is supreme law). Even the Supreme Court of India, in the case of D.K. Basu vs. State of West Bengal [1997 (1) SCC 416] accepted the validity of these two principles and characterised them as “not only important and relevant, but lying at the heart of the doctrine that
welfare of an individual must yield to that of the community.” The validity of the principles of salus populi est suprema lex and salus res publica est suprema lex could have been part of an enlightened national discourse, and what could be the governing instrumentalities, empowerments, legal checks and stringent processes if these principles were to be invoked. It is better to accept reality as it is and then strive to change it for the better, rather than what we wish it to be. Feigned ignorance is the worst type of hypocrisy.
But there is another vital question that needs to be addressed. While pursuing the Sohrabuddin case, was the government really serious about stopping the menace of fake encounters, or was it pursuing a different agenda? Encounters have been taking place all over the country under all regimes, at times degenerating into what are called fake encounters. Between 2000 and 2007 there have been 712 cases of police encounters in the country with UP topping the list at 324, and Gujarat figuring almost at the bottom with 17.
In some of the cases there was not much on record, even to establish the criminal past of those killed. Settling political scores through security and investigative agencies like the CBI is not only bad politics, but also destructive for the nation’s security. To convey the impression (explicitly or implicitly) that Sohrabuddin was targeted for belonging to a particular community, thereby creating a sense of insecurity in a section of society, is detrimental to national interests. It is little known that a large number of Sohrabuddin’s victims were Muslims while a good number of his closest associates (including Tulsiram Prajapati, who was also killed in a similar encounter), were Hindu. William Blake could not have been more right when he said that “a truth that is pursued with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent”.
The other negative impact of the Sohrabuddin case is the impression it is creating that all encounters in which police and security forces are involved, are fake. Society needs to be reassured that the majority of encounters are genuine and mostly in response to murderous attacks on security personnel. The fact that, on average, over 1,200 policemen get killed every year grappling with terrorists, insurgents, underworld mafia and other anti-social elements, bears ample testimony to this fact. Playing up a few aberrations and blowing them out of proportion and presenting them as the only truth is not in the national interest.
The other downside of the publicity around such cases is that it erodes the people’s trust in governance. Administrations begin to be seen as instruments of repression and self-aggrandisement and politicians as perceived as manipulating their power for political and personal gains. This erosion can lead to a dangerous delegitimisation of the polity. Democratic politics is an exercise in regime-legitimisati on, and to lose the confidence of the governed would set the government on a self-destructive path.
The writer is former director of the Intelligence Bureau
HSMani
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On 8/15/10, Pradeep.Bhandari Bhandari <pradeepk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I agree with the views express on the media by 'Shankar Dutt Fulara'. I
> generally don't watchTelevision except Aastha or Sanskar channel. If print
> and electronic media was vigilant our country would not have remain poor
> even after 63 years of Independence. The reason for saying is that media at
> the time of election says that country is not having any issue.
>
> One cann't have a bigger joke than this, issues exist everywhere in this
> country whether pertaining to water, electricity, road, law and order,
> corruption, unemployment, inflation and so on.
>
> If media was responsible perhaps they could have shown no. of times program
> on bharat Swabhiman to show the people of this country that this is the way
> forward.
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:54 PM, <
> bharatswabhima...@googlegroups.com<bharatswabhimantrust%2Bno...@googlegroups.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> Today's Topic Summary
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>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/bharatswabhimantrust/topics
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>> - CWG - CORRUPTION WEALTH
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>> - Sanskrit
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>> - this one is really
>> important!!<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=vTter5asn-o.en.&am=!ITNDE7H6wbOxhb4a1PIWg0w2fozNxSr6V1sOcm9qFf8b8Sv1Mrc&fri#12a434837958f041_group_thread_4>[1
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>> - Who is
>> Soharabuddin?<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=vTter5asn-o.en.&am=!ITNDE7H6wbOxhb4a1PIWg0w2fozNxSr6V1sOcm9qFf8b8Sv1Mrc&fri#12a434837958f041_group_thread_5>[2
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>> - And we say that we are working hard...
>> ???<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=vTter5asn-o.en.&am=!ITNDE7H6wbOxhb4a1PIWg0w2fozNxSr6V1sOcm9qFf8b8Sv1Mrc&fri#12a434837958f041_group_thread_6>[1
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>>
>> Topic: CWG - CORRUPTION WEALTH
>> GAMES<http://groups.google.com/group/bharatswabhimantrust/t/9a912740d6383762>
>>
>> Himanshu Bisht <spyhi...@gmail.com> Aug 05 12:03PM +0530
>>
>> shame
>>
>> shame.........................................................................CWG
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>> Mohan Lal <kusal...@gmail.com> Aug 05 08:31PM +0530
>>
>> THANks. ive shared this & requested to all my frnds in Facebook to
>> share it
>> further.
>> Right now this is possible from me. let them at least be aware.
>>
>> rgds,
>>
>> Monu.
>>
>>
>>
>> Topic: Sanskrit
>> Classes<http://groups.google.com/group/bharatswabhimantrust/t/2e5f95a5c1fee4fa>
>>
>> dsp_d...@engineer.com Aug 05 07:00AM -0400
>> Sohrabuddin<http://groups.google.com/group/bharatswabhimantrust/t/e67f2eeb155e4fa2>
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>> Aastha <divyaaa...@gmail.com> Aug 05 12:12PM +0530
>> Vivekananda<http://groups.google.com/group/bharatswabhimantrust/t/870169ef93c99dd8>
>>
>> B P DOBHAL <dobh...@gmail.com> Aug 05 11:42AM +0530
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>> kirpeya hindi mai baije
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>> Topic: this one is really
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>> HARIHARA SUBRAMANIAN <hsubram...@yahoo.co.in> Aug 05 10:41AM +0530
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>> Soharabuddin?<http://groups.google.com/group/bharatswabhimantrust/t/4d019252a39922bf>
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>> HARIHARA SUBRAMANIAN <hsubram...@yahoo.co.in> Aug 04 11:14PM +0530
>>
>> ???<http://groups.google.com/group/bharatswabhimantrust/t/a051a140e127a14d>
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>> Gopal Krishna <gopalkrish...@gmail.com> Aug 04 02:13PM -0400
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