I hope you'll be interested to read my new paper "The Five Stars of
Online Journal Articles – an article evaluation framework".
A summary blog post is available at
http://opencitations.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/the-five-stars-of-online-journal-articles-3/.
This points to the longer article, submitted for publication, with a
preprint in Nature Preceedings (http://precedings.nature.com/documents/
6542/).
Kind regards,
David
This is interesting. But maybe you need another star to represent "result reproducibility".
Best,
Juliana
Nor are (or should) all academic studies by reproducible. A case study
on a patient; an longtitudinal study of a cohort; ethonographic studies;
historical studies. Some people are very keen on reproducible
experiments, but it is not always possible, and not always the best way
to achieve things.
Enjoyed the post, David. The only change I would make is instead of "peer
reviewed", I would say "peer reviewable". The distinction is that, to my
mind, peer review can happen after the publication process as well as
before. Indeed, this may be the main purpose OF the publication, which
is the case with RFC (request for comment) documents.
Phil
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> Enjoyed the post, David. The only change I would make is instead of "peer
> reviewed", I would say "peer reviewable". The distinction is that, to my
> mind, peer review can happen after the publication process as well as
> before. Indeed, this may be the main purpose OF the publication, which
> is the case with RFC (request for comment) documents.
I too had issues with this and have been thinking a little about it. I think it may be more the way it reads than David's intention but this feels like it is built around traditional review processes. I would suggest the "levels" be more like:
1. Peer reviewed. Has the article been critiqued and reviewed by two or more appropriate experts (this can occur either before or publication)
2. Responsive review. Has the author been able to and made substantive responses to these comments (e.g. through a reply or through changes to the manuscript)
3. Continuous review. Is the review process continuing? (i.e. are additional relevant findings or refutations linked from the article, are the authors responsive to comments?)
4. Open peer review. Is the whole review process entirely transparent with the record of changes and comments made available for examination by any interested party?
I'd take issue with there being any significant difference between the _review_ process for PLoS ONE and other journals. The criteria for publication may be different but that's quite a separate issue. In general terms I see no difference between "light" peer review as practiced in journals and "full review". There might be another lighter layer called "Sanity Check" which is what is notionally done e.g. at the Arxiv and at Nature Precedings. So there is a difference between a random blog post and something on the Arxiv for instance.
But definitely a good concept and I like the way its laid out and thought through.
Cheers
Cameron
> Phil
>
> Juliana Freire <freire....@gmail.com> writes:
>> This is interesting. But maybe you need another star to represent
>> "result reproducibility".
>>
>> Best,
>> Juliana
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 1:33 PM, David Shotton wrote:
>>
>>> Dear folks,
>>>
>>> I hope you'll be interested to read my new paper "The Five Stars of
>>> Online Journal Articles – an article evaluation framework".
>>>
>>> A summary blog post is available at
>>> http://opencitations.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/the-five-stars-of-online-journal-articles-3/.
>>>
>>> This points to the longer article, submitted for publication, with a
>>> preprint in Nature Preceedings (http://precedings.nature.com/documents/
>>> 6542/).
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Room 914 Claremont Tower, skype: russet_apples
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As a side-issue: I usually heard the term "eating your own dogfood". I agree that "drinking my own champagne" is certainly more pleasing:-)
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I would separate out the notion of process of reviewing from quality of
reviewing. This is the way that, for example, Gene Ontology evidence
codes work; they describe the type of experimental evidence, but
explicitly state that this should not be interpreted as quality of the
evidence. Even if everybody does interpret it this way.
For instance, many scientists would see open, post-publication peer
review as being light-weight. Engineers used to the RFC process see the
same thing as anything but; a full release of technical specifications
is what you need to get something that will work.
The peer-review process is useful to know, but it does not necessarily
tell you anything at all about the quality of either the peer-review or
the resultant paper.
Phil
Dear folks,
I hope you'll be interested to read my new paper "The Five Stars of
Online Journal Articles – an article evaluation framework".
A summary blog post is available at
http://opencitations.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/the-five-stars-of-online-journal-articles-3/.
This points to the longer article, submitted for publication, with a
preprint in Nature Preceedings (http://precedings.nature.com/documents/
6542/).
Kind regards,
David
> Hi, I can't help but note (and I'm sure it hasn't escaped the notice of others here) that this email thread is a bit of a self-referential test of this review aspect of this paper.
Thats a good point.
> Does this thread meet the criteria of 1-4 below?
I would say it does, but not optimally. We've had review, I'm sure David will respond or take into consideration the points in any revisions. The process could at least in principle continue beyond publication (and indeed has if you accept the preprint as formal publication). And this list is discoverable and readable online. The only thing not provided is a clear link from the final version back to this discussion - something I've argued that publishers should provide for a while and an opportunity to add real continuing vale, the connection into ongoing discussion around the published work.
Cheers
Cameron
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