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Ben Allfree  
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From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:18:23 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 11:18 am
Subject: Closing bensgigs

Friends, I'm retiring the bensgigs server due to hosting costs since I'm
not making any money from it.

If any of you feel like contributing something on a monthly basis to keep
things going and support costs, please email me directly. If enough people
respond to cover the overhead, I will get it up and running again :)

Thanks for all the awesome feedback.

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conor doyle  
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From: conor doyle <conor.do...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:16:28 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Unfortunantly, I wouldn't be able to contribute financially at the moment,
but would open-sourcing the code be an option?

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Robert Tracy  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 12:25 pm
From: Robert Tracy <robertctr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:25:49 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Ben,

what are the hosting/bandwidth costs? We  have our own server... maybe we
could do something with that.

If not can you relate the target costs so I know if it's even feasible?

Thanks for the hard work. I will miss all those e-mails.

Rob

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Katie  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 12:49 pm
From: Katie <katiemckin...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:49:40 -0500
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I could do up to $20 a month.
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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 12:54 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:54:15 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

The dedicated server with backups costs $100/mo.

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Alexander Latour  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 12:59 pm
From: Alexander Latour <alexlat...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:59:06 -0400
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

why don't you just introduce a subscription plan?

-alex


 
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Robert Tracy  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 1:04 pm
From: Robert Tracy <robertctr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:04:51 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

> why don't you just introduce a subscription plan?

> -alex

Yeah!?

Rob

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 1:11 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:11:37 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Ok, $20/mo. Who's in besides Katie? :)

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Katie  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 1:20 pm
From: Katie <katiemckin...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:20:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Come on people! :)
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Rodney Saenz  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 1:45 pm
From: Rodney Saenz <lmntal.des...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:45:48 -0500
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I'm more than happy to pitch in, but is there any way to use an alternative
to Paypal?

I closed my account some time ago and have boycotted them ever since.

I can submit payment through any other gateway, including Google Checkout,
and I'd really like to help keep this alive.

Thanks for your help.

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 1:18 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:18:46 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Actually, let's just do it this way, here's a PP subscription link. If I
get at least 5 signups it will be enough to keep the lights on. Anything on
top of that will go toward new features. If I don't get 5 signups, we'll
shut er down and your subscription will be canceled and refunded in full.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=...

b

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 3:55 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:55:28 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I'm happy to offer Google Checkout as an alternative. I don't see a way to
create a subscription button, do you have any info on that?

b

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 3:59 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:59:19 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Yay to Katie for subscribing!

b

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Rodney Saenz  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 4:07 pm
From: Rodney Saenz <lmntal.des...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:07:41 -0500
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Damn. Looks like
subscriptions<http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/Google_Checkout_Beta_S...>
are
available, but in the beta-only API only. :(

Alternatively, and less-conveniently, you could send an e-mail invoice.
That's my usual method for retainer clients.

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 4:28 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:28:13 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Oh well. If you come up with any alternatives for recurring billing that
are as easy as PayPal, send them over and I'll have a look.

For now the easiest thing is PP and it doesn't require a PP account. You
can just input your card info.

b

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Rodney Saenz  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 4:30 pm
From: Rodney Saenz <lmntal.des...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:30:13 -0500
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I though the same thing, but it definitely asked for a Paypal account once
I chose the "Pay with a Credit Card" option.

I'll keep an eye out, and thanks for looking into it, regardless. Here's
hoping you can get your required number of folks.

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 4:41 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:41:48 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2012 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I see it now too, PP has an "Advanced" service where buyers do not need a
PP account.

Ok so seriously, what else is out there? I am going to hit this same
problem with another service I'm offering (anyone want singing lessons via
Skype video??). I need something that can do international recurring
billing.

b

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Robert Tracy  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 4:59 pm
From: Robert Tracy <robertctr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:59:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I've mentioned them before. Dwolla has a lot of positive buzz.

https://www.dwolla.com/

I'm not going to lie I don't know tons about the service but I know a lot
of people are seeing them as an alternative to the evil Paypal (yes I'm not
a fan either even though I still use them and they have never given me
anything but excellent service I am aware of their issues and don't want to
use them if I don't have to).

I have a Dwolla account. I understand the money transfers are instant
instead of days like Paypal and I also understand that each transaction not
matter how big or small costs 25 cents. No more, no less.

Which considering I lose about seven bucks in fees every time a client pays
me $250 through Paypal is pretty attractive.

Check them out. They may have a solution and if they do please share your
info/experience. I want to learn more about them myself.

Rob

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Rodney Saenz  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 5:04 pm
From: Rodney Saenz <lmntal.des...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:04:02 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I've been hearing lots about Dwolla, as well.

Something about subscriptions
here<http://blog.dwolla.com/introducing-the-hub-with-recurring-payments/>
.

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 5:10 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:10:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Dwolla looks like you have to prime it with a bank transfer.

b

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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 5:58 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:58:34 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Hmm.. Well I see the benefits of Dwolla for the merchant, but what is the
advantage for the buyer? It appears that you need to prime the account with
a bank transfer before you can even use Dwolla to pay for anything. I can't
imagine that system ever eclipsing credit cards which do not require buyers
to place their cash in escrow.

b

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:21:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

I have had no success with your program, and I've spent a lot of time
sweating over the leads and just trying to make it work, and while doing it
I've been losing time and money. I don't know where my next rent check is
going to come from, and I have hospital bills of my daughter's I have to
pay for.

I'm sending you 20$. Because while it may not have worked yet, I believe in
you Ben. You've busted your ass for this, and I want to see it succeed.

-Jason C. Thompson
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Ben Allfree  
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 More options Mar 19 2012, 7:26 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:26:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

That's 2!

Jason, have you used the forum much? I can't imagine not having any success
at all. Let's fix that.

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 More options Mar 19 2012, 7:31 pm
From: Jason Thompson <krowf...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:31:57 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

Link me to the forum, and I will gladly jump in.

Can I get a cool badge next to my name for supporting you? Something with a
lightening bolt that means "extra awesome".

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 More options Mar 19 2012, 7:54 pm
From: Ben Allfree <b...@bensgigs.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:54:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ben's Gigs] Closing bensgigs

We should definitely do badges.

Do you want notes on your current process and site? I have a few thoughts
but I don't want to overstep :)


 
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