Filters

[c1gmlm]

I have a Fram oil filter PH3985 and a fuel filter P8043. These were on
the Perkins cross reference table for a M80 that was on file. Someone
said most parts where interchangeable with the M50. I have the M50 and
the oil filter didn't seem to go on. I didn't force it on and didn't
even try the fuel filter. If you know you can use these, just pay the
shipping and you can have them.

Mike
OC 400

[Cap Munday]

I have a Yanmar and bought alternate filters for several oil changes in the last year or so. It seems that the OEM filters do a better job than the Fram or other brands. I have managed 100 to 150 hours per change and oil has been black after 100 hours. After 100 hours as of today since last oil change with Yanmar filter, the fluid is like honey in color. I will add a quart in a few days, but won't change oil until we reach Annapolis at about 200 hours. 

That being said, in the future I will stick with OEM filters and feel confident, after 2240 hours, of another 2K hours with 200 or so hour change interval. 

Cap Munday

S/V Zydeco

Beneteau 473

I have a Fram oil filter PH3985 and a fuel filter P8043. These were on
the Perkins cross reference table  for a M80 that was on file. Someone
said most parts where interchangeable with the M50. I have the M50 and
the oil filter didn't seem to go on. I didn't force it on and didn't
even try the fuel filter. If you know you can use these, just pay the
shipping and you can have them.

Mike
OC 400

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[davidcf...@rogers.com]

I am not sure if these ok or not. I get Perkins filters from the local dealer.

They are not too bad in price. If you need one I have a few extras.

I would be surprised if the M80 is not the same.

Due you need the Perkins part number?

How is your leak doing?

DF
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From: c1gmlm <c1g...@aol.com>

[Cap Munday]

I sent this to another list, the 473 one. Yesterday when arriving at Southport, actually South Landing Village Marina (a most lovely spot), Bill Jarvis spotted Zydeco on his way down the dock  to Piccolo and what joy! We hooked up after a 2 year hiatus. They are on the way to Spoletto Fest in Charleston, we are returning to Annapolis, and in the middle, we meet. Hmm. Cruising is not only working on your boat in lovely locations, but meeting lovely friends in those same locations. 

I mentioned this post and Bill suggested I post it here.  

If you are bird fans, they have a most excellent book to recommend. Our waterway trips have been so much fun in large part when we find ourselves spotting new birds. We keep two bird books next to the chart books and Doziers Guides. Even after our 5th trip the joy is still there. Weather kept us inside most of the way back north, but the scenery, particularly going through Georgia, has been super. Marsh greens have been spectacular, and wildlife, including dolphins and turtles and leaping rays and fishes has been a blast. 

A week or so ago the hot water heated died. At about the same time I had problems filling the port side fuel tank. I figured the vent port had clogged. 




Vent port was easy. The symptoms included engine failure. Our Filter-Boss alarmed me, and I switched to a clean filter. We were leaving Dafuski Island, SC and anchored in the middle of the waterway as I did the job. I decided to replace the used filter while we were anchored. About 10 minutes after getting underway the engine died again. Oh durn! By this time we were in wider water, so I went below and switched to the new filter and also switched to the starboard tank. The Yanmar fired right up and we boogied right along until arriving two days ago in Georgetown, SC. 





I removed the vent hose from the port, unscrewed the port and removed it. It took a lot of effort to blow through the fitting. There is a screen at the inlet side, so I took a wire hanger hook and scraped the inside of the screen from the vent hose side. When I rinsed it out in the sink some black crud came out. At that point it passed the blow test and I re installed it. That problem is solved.





The hot water heater was a bit more of a challenge. The actual removal and replacement of the element is not tough.





1. Turn off the electricity to the heater and cool the water in the heater. (Take showers, wash bras, perform pedicures and wash all dishes). OK, the hot water heater is broken, but you will be dealing with hot water if you used your engine to get to where the following act will be performed. Turn off the breaker!!

2. With freshwater pump off, open a few valves to reduce water pressure to nil.

3. Close all open water valves.

4. Pull out and replace the element.

Note: This is a better approach than draining the tank because bits of crud will flood out and prevent full closure of the valve unless you keep flooding the place to remove all the crud. We have not winterized Zydeco for 5 years by performing drainage. We have winterized by moving south a thousand or so miles. The crud has built up considerably. If you winterize by draining things, draining the tank is a more viable alternative.





Item number 4 is more than it appears. To remove the element you have to remove the bracket that holds it in place. Here is what you have to do:





1. Go to  http://www.atwoodmobile.com/  and find Marine Water Heaters. There is a drawing that shows an L bracket that holds the heater element and the rest of the tank in place.

2. Remove all 4 screws from the front of the heater.

3. Loosen all 4 screws on the back end. This takes a long handled Phillips

4. Lift up the heater from the front and prop it up. For me, a can of dog food worked just fine.

5. Check the bottom of the sheet metal below the bracket to see if a screw is connecting the bracket to the bottom of the sheet metal enclosure. I learned that this is not something done by Atwood, but some dolt at Beneteau added the little brute. This screw, not a bolt, requires a 1/4" socket. There is no nut. However, I found that the screw just kept turning, not removing. I had to beat the pointy end to get the threads to catch. A mirror is essential.

6. When the lower portion of the bracket is somewhat free, take a 13mm socket to the 4 bolts holding the bracket and heater element in place.

7. Use excessive force to pull the bracket off the element top and remove it completely. While wrenching this bracket out of place, try to hold the element in place to avoid excessive leakage.

8. Replace element as noted above. I did not replace the gasket because it appeared that the existing gasket was stoutly in place and was different than the one that I got with the new element. So far, no leaks.

9. Snug down the 4 bolts before reattaching the 4 screws to the hull. You can not get a socket on the lower bolts if the bracket is attached to the hull because the sheet metal obstructs access.

10. Remove dog food can to return heater to the hull, connect wiring and reattach all screws.

11. Turn on freshwater pump and run hot water valve until all air (and grungy crud) is removed from the system. Check for leaks.

12. Just above the element are two round devices; the thermostat and overheat breaker. Look closely between wire leads on the upper of the two, the overheat breaker, to find a small plastic reset button. Press this button. 

13. When all is purged and leak free, turn the heater on and verify in about 15 minutes that all is well and heating. If you have not removed all air from the tank you may have tripped the overheat switch (yep, personal experience). 

14. If all is still not working, replace the thermostat and overtemp switch. (I bought a spare to get my order above the required $50, but did not replace that part).





The folks at Atwood were very helpful. I appreciate their product and the phone support they provided. I would like to kick the ass of the guy who designed the bracket system that caused me to perform a series of disgusting curses, but the thing works. The upside: Linda was entertained. 





We now have most excellent hot water. After 11 years this is an expected thing to break. Lots of stuff is breaking, but I am learning how to fix it. Kenny of Next Generation told me  when replacing the generator end of our 5.5 KW unit not to buy a house. Now that I can fix and have fixed all the broken stuff, I'm really ready to go cruising! Talk about a feeling of joy and accomplishment, keeping Zydeco up and running is hard to beat.

 

Cap in Georgetown, SC

[Bill Jarvis]

It was indeed a delight to run into Cap and Linda again.

 

Olwen is an avid bird watcher and has just about every book. The newest one that she and I highly recommend is The Crossley ID Guide, published by Princeton University Press.

 

Crossley has taken literally thousands of photographs of every bird. He must be a wizard with photoshop because he has taken those pictures and combined them into a single plate for each bird type. In the single plate he  has close up pictures in the foreground,normal habitat in the middle ,and distant and inflight pictures in the background. He has included both sexes, immature and color variants in each plate. It is a truly amazing work.

 

Bill

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[Dean Forbis]

Bill,

 Which marina are you heading to in CHS?  City Marina? If so, we'll be down this weekend.  Well , we'll be down anyway but hope to see you at City. 

Dean

[Bill Jarvis]

Dean,

 

We will be staying at the maritime Center across town from the City Marina, but very convenient to everywhere downtown town.

 

I hope you can stop by and see us.

 

Bill

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