Re: [bhs] thanks
21 views
Skip to first unread message
Steven Bochinski
Oct 22, 2012, 11:13:22 AM10/22/12
to bellingha...@googlegroups.com
Hey guys, thanks for the great meeting last friday, it was mine and
laura's first hackerspace besdies hackercamp (toorcon.org)
cheers!! c ya next fri
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Martin Passmore <dc24...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mari
>
> I feel a bit of a fraud posting anything about PCBs because the last time I
> actually built anything electronic that worked, was in the mid '50s during
> idle nights aboard ship when I made a 2-tube radio with a soldered brass
> scrap chassis (not much aluminum sheet aboard diesel freighters). What I do
> understand and hope might be useful to others is a long experience with
> heavier equipment and old-fashioned machine tools, and to a lesser degree
> industrial electrics and wiring.
>
> I forwarded the items about PCBs when I came across them because I realize
> their strategic significance for builders, and I'm willing to put effort
> into supporting anything that helps open innovation. It's looking to me like
> the critical choke points for now are patents and hardware.
>
> I love the new energy that's manifesting in the group after all the false
> starts and look forward to meeting you and your friend Freske
>
> Martin
>
> PS While I never got as far as needing to design a PCB, I have used
> breadboards a little in learning projects. But I'm fond of the idea as a
> metaphor in discussing transportation:
> gliding south under the clouds to SeaTac, downtown Seattle looks like an old
> Pentium with the case off. But computers long ago gave up single-layer
> motherboards, and it's time cities did too. I want to see the paved ground
> prioritized for motors and freight, so that walkers and bikers get to use
> the space above the streets; buyways and spokeways, if you will.
>
> Having to look out for traffic does not contribute to the shopping or the
> cycling experience. The feeling is mutual. And the cost would be asteroidal
> compared with freeways or rail.
>
> I hope this off-topic extrapolation of the hacker ethic is not too unseemly
> and grandiose...
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Mari Mamo
> <quarksofthec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> I know of someone that has designed and built his share of circuit boards
>> over the years, some for work and some for various hobby projects. He said
>> for experimental use they were usually perf-boards (perforated), but in some
>> cases, after such prototypes were tested, the designs were sent out to be
>> manufactured. For a while he played around with a kit for etching the boards
>> himself. But, he certainly never made use of the internet for the purpose.
>> There was no internet back then!
>>
>> I have been reading the posts and thought of Freske. I have invited him
>> and a few others who were not aware of BHS.
>>
>> <Mari
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Martin Passmore <dc24...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This showed up on my Gmail page as I was reading Jeremy's comments--they
>>> sound decent also:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.omnicircuitboards.com/
>>>
>>> martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Jeremy Ruhland
>>> <jeremy....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been using oshpark (formerly dorkbotpbx) for my last few designs,
>>>> they've had pretty decent quality and are slightly cheaper than expresspcb,
>>>> without the major downside of having to use a particular piece of software.
>>>>
>>>> Circuit.io looks cool, and while their webapp seems very user friendly,
>>>> it feels underpowered (having learned eagle). I haven't seen anything
>>>> related to their pricing, or if they're using a different service for that,
>>>> we'll have to see when they get up and running.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Martin Passmore <dc24...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the sound of these guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> It did remind me of an ad I saw recently in a magazine
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.elektor.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> which led me to this, perhaps now fading discussion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general_electronics_discussion/18997-has_anyone_used_expresspcb.html
>>>>>
>>>>> about
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.expresspcb.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> with varying comments on the service; most people liked it. (3 boards
>>>>> for $51) One other thing that did come up in a search is that their free but
>>>>> proprietary CAD program can't be used by other manufacturers. It's for
>>>>> Windows but runs on Wine, they regard it fairly well.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1811
>>>>>
>>>>> martin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Charles Coslor
>>>>> <charliec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just read about this. I am sure if there was a will, there'd be a way,
>>>>>> and we could make our own PCBs, but it is worth taking note of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/16/build-circuit-boards-online
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bellinghamhackspace/-/sYMtFoy49u4J.
>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy Ruhland
>>>> Jeremy....@gmail.com
>>>> Public Key DEDCE77E
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
> To post to this group, send email to bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
--
--
Steven Bochinski
Artist * Computer Wizard
http://bsteveb.com in...@stevestech.com
Steve's Tech Solutions Bellingham, WA
~~ Clarity is the key to my success ~~
laura's first hackerspace besdies hackercamp (toorcon.org)
cheers!! c ya next fri
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Martin Passmore <dc24...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mari
>
> I feel a bit of a fraud posting anything about PCBs because the last time I
> actually built anything electronic that worked, was in the mid '50s during
> idle nights aboard ship when I made a 2-tube radio with a soldered brass
> scrap chassis (not much aluminum sheet aboard diesel freighters). What I do
> understand and hope might be useful to others is a long experience with
> heavier equipment and old-fashioned machine tools, and to a lesser degree
> industrial electrics and wiring.
>
> I forwarded the items about PCBs when I came across them because I realize
> their strategic significance for builders, and I'm willing to put effort
> into supporting anything that helps open innovation. It's looking to me like
> the critical choke points for now are patents and hardware.
>
> I love the new energy that's manifesting in the group after all the false
> starts and look forward to meeting you and your friend Freske
>
> Martin
>
> PS While I never got as far as needing to design a PCB, I have used
> breadboards a little in learning projects. But I'm fond of the idea as a
> metaphor in discussing transportation:
> gliding south under the clouds to SeaTac, downtown Seattle looks like an old
> Pentium with the case off. But computers long ago gave up single-layer
> motherboards, and it's time cities did too. I want to see the paved ground
> prioritized for motors and freight, so that walkers and bikers get to use
> the space above the streets; buyways and spokeways, if you will.
>
> Having to look out for traffic does not contribute to the shopping or the
> cycling experience. The feeling is mutual. And the cost would be asteroidal
> compared with freeways or rail.
>
> I hope this off-topic extrapolation of the hacker ethic is not too unseemly
> and grandiose...
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Mari Mamo
> <quarksofthec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> I know of someone that has designed and built his share of circuit boards
>> over the years, some for work and some for various hobby projects. He said
>> for experimental use they were usually perf-boards (perforated), but in some
>> cases, after such prototypes were tested, the designs were sent out to be
>> manufactured. For a while he played around with a kit for etching the boards
>> himself. But, he certainly never made use of the internet for the purpose.
>> There was no internet back then!
>>
>> I have been reading the posts and thought of Freske. I have invited him
>> and a few others who were not aware of BHS.
>>
>> <Mari
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Martin Passmore <dc24...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This showed up on my Gmail page as I was reading Jeremy's comments--they
>>> sound decent also:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.omnicircuitboards.com/
>>>
>>> martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Jeremy Ruhland
>>> <jeremy....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been using oshpark (formerly dorkbotpbx) for my last few designs,
>>>> they've had pretty decent quality and are slightly cheaper than expresspcb,
>>>> without the major downside of having to use a particular piece of software.
>>>>
>>>> Circuit.io looks cool, and while their webapp seems very user friendly,
>>>> it feels underpowered (having learned eagle). I haven't seen anything
>>>> related to their pricing, or if they're using a different service for that,
>>>> we'll have to see when they get up and running.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Martin Passmore <dc24...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the sound of these guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> It did remind me of an ad I saw recently in a magazine
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.elektor.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> which led me to this, perhaps now fading discussion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general_electronics_discussion/18997-has_anyone_used_expresspcb.html
>>>>>
>>>>> about
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.expresspcb.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> with varying comments on the service; most people liked it. (3 boards
>>>>> for $51) One other thing that did come up in a search is that their free but
>>>>> proprietary CAD program can't be used by other manufacturers. It's for
>>>>> Windows but runs on Wine, they regard it fairly well.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1811
>>>>>
>>>>> martin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Charles Coslor
>>>>> <charliec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just read about this. I am sure if there was a will, there'd be a way,
>>>>>> and we could make our own PCBs, but it is worth taking note of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/16/build-circuit-boards-online
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bellinghamhackspace/-/sYMtFoy49u4J.
>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy Ruhland
>>>> Jeremy....@gmail.com
>>>> Public Key DEDCE77E
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>> bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
> To post to this group, send email to bellingha...@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> bellinghamhacks...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
--
--
Steven Bochinski
Artist * Computer Wizard
http://bsteveb.com in...@stevestech.com
Steve's Tech Solutions Bellingham, WA
~~ Clarity is the key to my success ~~
bsteveb
Jan 9, 2013, 8:02:51 PM1/9/13
to bellingha...@googlegroups.com
attached is the pdf for ease of access
>>>>>> bellinghamhackspace@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>>> bellinghamhackspace+unsub...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>>> bellinghamhackspace@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>> bellinghamhackspace+unsub...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy Ruhland
>>>> Jeremy....@gmail.com
>>>> Public Key DEDCE77E
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>> Groups "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>> bellinghamhackspace@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>> bellinghamhackspace+unsub...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>> bellinghamhackspace@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> bellinghamhackspace+unsub...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to bellinghamhackspace@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> bellinghamhackspace+unsub...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/bellinghamhackspace?hl=en.
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "bellinghamhackspace" group.
> To post to this group, send email to bellinghamhackspace@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> bellinghamhackspace+unsub...@googlegroups.com.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages