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Greg Carr

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Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
member

Ian Mulgrew
Vancouver Sun

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

The controversial acquittal of an elite Nomad member of the Hells
Angels caught with 52 kilograms of cocaine worth $1.56 million has
been upheld in spite of the judge's profane comments during the
prosecutor's presentation of the case.

(Greg-This judge is a disgrace and when the prosecutor pointed out the
obvious stupidity of his reasoning he started spewing forth profanity
like the HA ppl he is so terrified of.)

In a unanimous decision, the British Columbia Court of Appeal on
Tuesday said there was no reason to impugn a rookie ruling by Justice
Peter Leask because his injudicious comments did not constitute an
error in law.

Even if Justice Leask did not consider a piece of evidence because he
forgot it or because he did not consider it relevant, while troubling,
that would be much too thin a thread on which to set aside an
acquittal and order a new trial, the judges concluded.

(Greg-Too bad.)

That means Parliament did not give the federal attorney-general the
power to appeal an unreasonable verdict just because the judge was
stupid.

The unanimous decision -- signed by Justices Pamela Kirkpatrick,
Kenneth Mackenzie and Carol Huddard -- is a heavy blow to prosecutors
and police who touted this bust as a serious broadside on the
notorious motorcycle club whose members are regularly accused but
rarely convicted of organized criminal activity.

(Greg-There have been a lot more convictions the last few yrs and even
the Nanaimo clubhouse was seized. Various ppl are facing charges still
and a lot of the lower ranking ppl are getting busted.)

Prosecutors believe B.C. Supreme Court Justice Leask went out of his
way in March 2007 to rely on conjecture and speculation to find a
reasonable doubt in the Crown's case.

They were angry that the long-time liberal defence lawyer -- elevated
to the bench in November, 2005 -- scrutinized a police expert witness
during his cross-examination and was verbally dismissive of the
prosecution case.

In an attempt to embarrass Justice Leask, someone sympathetic to the
prosecution alerted the media to his pointed and at times profane
comments.

As a result, the justice was subsequently pilloried and shamed into
holding an extraordinary hearing in which he abjectly apologized for
his rude language.

(Greg-One would expect a Judge to apologize the next day after calming
down. Thanks to the Vancouver Province for printing comments from
citizens present at the verdict who were appalled. I and others
officially notified the judicial ppl who oversee such things and it is
too bad he wasn't fired.)

But the Crown wanted his decision reversed, arguing that the appeal
court must make an exception in this case and order a new trial.

(Greg-Maybe appeal this to the Supreme Court.)

The appellate panel disagreed: "We are not persuaded the trial judge
fell into that or any other error of principle that would permit this
Court to direct a new trial."

Evidence showed Glen Jonathan Hehn, 30, rented a Surrey storage locker
from December 2002 until July 31, 2003.

He testified that he allowed a number of people to use the locker.

In June 2003, Hehn said he gave an acquaintance, Ewan Lilford, a key
to the locker and the pass code to the facility. On July 21, the
29-year-old arrived at Hehn's White Rock home and they traveled to the
storage locker.

Hehn retrieved a dog kennel and two kids' lifejackets and put them in
the back of his pickup truck. Lilford got two boxes and put them in
the truck and they drove away.

Police, who had been tailing Lilford, pulled the duo over.

They found a cardboard box with 22 one-kg packages of cocaine and a
bright blue box with nine one-kg bricks of cocaine in the back of the
truck.

When police searched the storage locker, they found a nylon
hockey-type bag with 19 one-kg bricks of cocaine and a shoebox with
two one-kg packages of powdered cocaine.

Expert evidence suggested the drugs, stamped with the Coca-Cola
trademark emblem, had a value of about $1.56 million wholesale.

(Greg-Of course the Coca-Cola emblem is red and white just like the HA
nick of red and white. You think this wasn't HAMC certified cocaine?
Leask is a disgrace to the judiciary.)

Hehn said he did not know Lilford was trafficking or that he had
cocaine in the locker and in the back of the truck.

He said that when they arrived at the locker, Lilford used the key he
had been given to open the locker.

Asked if he gave Lilford permission to store cocaine in the locker,
Hehn replied: "Most certainly not."

Police disputed Hehn's version of events and emphasized that they
found no key on Lilford when they searched him -- but Hehn had one.

They urged Justice Leask to reject Hehn's explanation as incredible,
beyond belief and incapable of raising a reasonable doubt.

(Greg-Lilford was an American and this was the time for him to pick up
the cocaine from Hehn since he was in town for a HA event.)

Staff Sergeant Richard Marsh, an RCMP officer with 18 years experience
in drug investigations, testified no one with possession of such a
valuable illicit commodity would be leave it under someone else's
control.

Leask, however, found Hehn's excuse consistent, his explanation
reasonable and his testimony unshakable.

"First, I found Mr. Hehn to be a good witness," he said.

"His manner was straightforward and crisp. His answers were clear.

(Greg-Mr.Hehn can speak English just fine even in a volatile street
situation so I am not surprised he presented himself well for the
judge.)

"I am not prepared to reject Mr. Hehn's evidence on the basis that it
is inconsistent with the [police] opinion about what a hypothetical
trafficker would probably do."

The Crown insisted that the cocaine was so valuable, Hehn's story flew
in the face of common sense.

But the panel said the assessment of evidence is "uniquely within the
purview of a trial judge."

"As to the complaint about relevance or speculation during
submissions, the focus of an appeal cannot be on a colloquy during
submissions between the court and counsel, for the reason that judges
often put forward a proposition to test counsel's theory of the case,
or to suggest an alternative theory," the justices wrote.

"Misapprehension of evidence may and frequently does constitute a
miscarriage of justice and thus give rise to an order for a new trial
when resulting errors of fact result in a conviction.

However, improper treatment of evidence constitutes an error of law
only when there is a failure to consider relevant evidence or legal
misdirection."

I think it's also important to remember that Lilford pleaded guilty
and was sentenced to 16 years. This isn't a crime that is going
unpunished.

(Greg-True enough and he will serve it in a US prison. Congrats to the
two RCMP officers who made this bust as it was apparently done on
instinct. Keep trying and better luck next time.)

imul...@png.canwest.com

© The Vancouver Sun 2008

HA
is involved with
extortion, homicide, kidnapping, prostitution, meth and cocaine
dealing, rape, armed robbery and motorcycle theft and child
pornography
as well as phony currency and witness intimidation and obstruction of
justice. They have been known to bribe and scare law enforcement
officers and judges into doing their bidding. These ppl must be
rooted
out of the Cdn justice system. Two judges have actually done their
job
and declared HAMC a criminal org and the Victoria Times-Colonist is
calling for it to be banned as a terrorist org.
"The Hells Angels should be treated as a domestic terror organization.
We should encourage those who make and enforce our laws in their
efforts to eradicate them."
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=517a2096-953a-4ea3-9507-ee3c5e8d39e2

The White Rock chapter Sgt.Of Arms, Villy Roy Lynnerup, recently was
arrested for trying to board an airplane at YVR
with a loaded firearm. Was probably going to crash the plane into the
Downtown courthouse or hold the passengers hostage in exchange for
the
release of Moms Boucher and all imprisoned full patch members. All
the
Hell's Angels, their supporters, associates etc. should be imprisoned
for twenty years
their children put in foster care and their assets seized.
Ppl are trying to get HAMC listed as a terrorist org. If you support
this
then write letters to editors of local newspapers and your local MP.
As well John Les the solicitor-general of BC before he resigned has
advocated banning
the wearing of gang colours such as biker patches in bars. Perhaps
John VanDongen can finish the job he started. Since HA
is
known to frequent Brandi’s and the Cecil and has links to
various bars in BC that would be an improvement. The gang has a
history of intimidating
bartenders, infiltrating unions involved in the bar industry, beating
and killing strippers and beating customers to death at random for no
reason. Contact your MLA as well as the local media and tell them you
want this implemented sooner rather than later.
VPD is appealing again for info about the homicide of Maria Yvette
Monzon who was shot dead on the westside of Vancouver. She was killed
by HA but the police have never stated that. There is a reward.

Colleen Reiter (Ryder?) of Surrey was killed by HAMC but the RCMP
refuse to confirm this.


We are awaiting the return of our JHVH in the flesh or his Son. His Son Yu'shua died on the cross for our sins, was resurrected and walked the earth for awhile then ascended unto Heaven. We await the Third Coming not the Second.

Scottish Quaker Robert Barclay-"The weighty Truths of God were neglected, and, as it were, went into Desuetude. ...

Who will be the last Coalition soldier to be maimed in Iraq?

Canadian troops out of Afghanistan and into Darfur.http://www.amnesty.ca/instantkarma/petition.php

Good luck to anyone trying to learn Hebrew. I am looking for a Hebrew-Gregorian calendar in both Hebrew and English lettering.

I am looking for my missing automobile. Left in the care of Low's Tire (Firestone) on King George Hwy which has since gone out of business. A man who claimed to be a tow truck driver named Jerry (sounded Black) called me and said he had it
but when I called him back he denied it. JVD-968 "89 Plymouth Reliant white with red interior. Devellis in lettering on the rear trunk. Contact me by email or the GRC if you are one of those ppl. Am looking for the address of Dave Reynolds and any info about him. He used to run Low's Tires and since he refuses to answer his email lows...@telus.net I can only assume he is the person who stole my vehicle and the contents in it. I have talked to the new owners and they claim to know nothing.
3P3BK41D9KT921716 is the vin number. John Reynolds still has a valid email lows...@telus.net but refuses to return my inquiries.Any info about this thief is appreciated.

I am also looking for various books and CD's that I have discovered missing. All are marked Greg Carr on the inside cover or somewhere in the CD booklet. $5 reward for each CD and for each book. Will pay $200 for info regarding how they disappeared because I honestly don't know.

The Ghost of Government Future

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"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
> Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
> member

The judge made the correct decision in the first place, people shouldn't be
convicted based on speculation and opinion... not even HAs. The judge's
standard of proof was not met.

The judge should be congratulated for not giving in to expedience and
maintaining his ethical integrity.


Semper Libèr® .

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"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
> Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
> member
>
> Ian Mulgrew
> Vancouver Sun
>
> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
>
> The controversial acquittal of an elite Nomad member of the Hells
> Angels caught with 52 kilograms of cocaine worth $1.56 million has
> been upheld in spite of the judge's profane comments during the
> prosecutor's presentation of the case.
>
> (Greg-This judge is a disgrace and when the prosecutor pointed out the
> obvious stupidity of his reasoning he started spewing forth profanity
> like the HA ppl he is so terrified of.)

Just a case of the chickens coming home to roost; when the crown themselves
put in judges that can be easily manipulated away from justice, for their
own gains. Nobody benefits more from this system than the RCMP and
politicians.

That is why it is bad policy for the general public to tolerate corruption
in our institutions. This kind of systemic corruption we have requires
radical reform, and not simply a change of the guard, or angry letters to
the editor either.

The only reason the RCMP is pressuring groups like the HA is because they
are competing for turf in the cocaine market. Just look at their involvement
in working with meth dealers from Hong Kong*, and you'll see they are
involved at the highest level.


* anyone who want evidence, i'll be happy to provide the links to the W5
feature that proves it.

Semper Libèr® .

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"The Ghost of Government Future" <ch...@eats.beef> wrote in message
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Could be... i hope someone posts the details.

It would not surprise me if the whole case was a bit of a witch hunt.... the
RCMP like to maintain control of the drug trade, and it could be the HA
turned down their offer, and the RCMP are now trying to pressure them.

The RCMP worked on proving they were a crime syndicate for over a year, and
came up with nothing in a full trial.


Michael Yardley

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On May 1, 3:15 pm, "Semper Libèr® ." <•nopolicestates????!?
~H...@freedom4all.org> wrote:
> "The Ghost of Government Future" <c...@eats.beef> wrote in messagenews:PynSj.3394$PM5.1909@edtnps92...
>
> > "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message

> >news:9ivi14hrf2d4q30bo...@4ax.com...
> > > Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
> > > Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
> > > member
>
> > The judge made the correct decision in the first place, people shouldn't
> be
> > convicted based on speculation and opinion... not even HAs.  The judge's
> > standard of proof was not met.
>
> > The judge should be congratulated for not giving in to expedience and
> > maintaining his ethical integrity.
>
> Could be... i hope someone posts the details.
>
> It would not surprise me if the whole case was a bit of a witch hunt.... the
> RCMP like to maintain control of the drug trade, and it could be the HA
> turned down their offer, and the RCMP are now trying to pressure them.
>
> The RCMP worked on proving they were a crime syndicate for over a year, and
> came up with nothing in a full trial.

Judges should be elected by the public like in the USA, not
appionted by the Government Feds. or Pro.

<The RCMP worked on proving they were a crime syndicate for over a
year>

And they where shotting Robert Dziekanski at the Airport at the
same time.The RCMP need to be kicked out of BC and we have a
Provincial Police Force like the OPD in Ontario.here in BC.It would be
more cost effective.The RCMP are a Paramilitay force that work for the
Feds not the Public

The HA's are supplying a demand for drugs.The reason is the high
cost and profit is that it is illegal. ALL drugs should be
decriminalized.Then there would no profits and gangs.Treat drug
addiction has a public health issue as it should. Costs of going
after the gangs is a waste of money.

Greg Carr

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On Thu, 01 May 2008 18:00:15 GMT, "The Ghost of Government Future"
<ch...@eats.beef> wrote:

>"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>news:9ivi14hrf2d4q30bo...@4ax.com...
>> Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
>> Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
>> member
>
>The judge made the correct decision in the first place, people shouldn't be
>convicted based on speculation and opinion

He was in a vehicle with a large quantity of cocaine, he had the key
to the storage locker that cocaine was in and the locker with the
cocaine was in his name. Guilty.

... not even HAs. The judge's
>standard of proof was not met.

The Judge was either bribed or intimidated.


>
>The judge should be congratulated for not giving in to expedience and
>maintaining his ethical integrity.

I disagree and want him removed from the bench. Hopefully this will
appealed.

Greg Carr

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On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:15:06 GMT, "Semper Libèr® ."
<•nopolicestates????!?~Hj...@freedom4all.org> wrote:

>
>"The Ghost of Government Future" <ch...@eats.beef> wrote in message
>news:PynSj.3394$PM5.1909@edtnps92...
>> "Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>> news:9ivi14hrf2d4q30bo...@4ax.com...
>> > Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
>> > Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
>> > member
>>
>> The judge made the correct decision in the first place, people shouldn't
>be
>> convicted based on speculation and opinion... not even HAs. The judge's
>> standard of proof was not met.
>>
>> The judge should be congratulated for not giving in to expedience and
>> maintaining his ethical integrity.
>
>Could be... i hope someone posts the details.

It has been posted various times. Hehn had cocaine in his truck, he
had the key to a locker with cocaine and he had rented the locker in
his name. He was guilty and Leask let him ago while shouting
profanities at the Crown. Leask shouldn't be on the bench.


>
>It would not surprise me if the whole case was a bit of a witch hunt

The other defendant pleaded guilty and received a 16 yr sentence.

>.... the
>RCMP like to maintain control of the drug trade,

I see no evidence of GRC involvement in the drug trade.

> and it could be the HA
>turned down their offer, and the RCMP are now trying to pressure them.
>
>The RCMP worked on proving they were a crime syndicate for over a year, and
>came up with nothing in a full trial.

Hopefully they will keep trying. In that case they still managed to
convict a number of ppl and cost Mr.Giles a large legal bill and
expose a part of their operation.

An Ontario judge has ruled that the Hells Angels motorcycle gang is a
criminal organization.
INDEPTH: Canada's Anti-Gang Law
The ruling is important because it's the first time a judge has
declared the group – as opposed to individuals – to be criminal. It
gives the police more power to attack the organization, and could
increase penalties for individual Angels by up to 14 years.

The case was the first to test the federal government's 2001 anti-gang
law, which made it a crime to commit a serious offence for the benefit
of a criminal organization.
Ontario police were pleased with the ruling, but the Angels are
expected to appeal.
Judge Michele Fuerst of Ontario Superior Court made the ruling
Thursday in a case in Barrie, Ont., involving two Angels who were
accused of extorting money from a local businessman.
She concluded the men had used the gang's reputation for violence and
intimidation as a tool because they'd arrived at his home wearing
Hells Angels insignia.
The men "presented themselves not as individuals, but as members of a
group with a reputation for violence and intimidation," Fuerst wrote
in her ruling.
Steven (Tiger) Lindsay, 40, and Raymond Bonner, 35, were convicted for
demanding $75,000 from a Barrie businessman because he sold them
outdated equipment to steal satellite TV signals.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/01/bikers-ruling.html

There was another case in Delta if I recall correctly. HA has
excellent lawyers but they will I'm sure eventually get more judges
ruling them illegal as a criminal terrorist org. I was sympathetic to
HA on this one because this businessman scammed them. I mean of all
the ppl to rip off why rip off a criminal/terrorist org.

Greg Carr

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On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:11:56 GMT, "Semper Libèr® ."
<•nopolicestates????!?~Hj...@freedom4all.org> wrote:

>
>"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>news:9ivi14hrf2d4q30bo...@4ax.com...
>> Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
>> Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
>> member
>>
>> Ian Mulgrew
>> Vancouver Sun
>>
>> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
>>
>> The controversial acquittal of an elite Nomad member of the Hells
>> Angels caught with 52 kilograms of cocaine worth $1.56 million has
>> been upheld in spite of the judge's profane comments during the
>> prosecutor's presentation of the case.
>>
>> (Greg-This judge is a disgrace and when the prosecutor pointed out the
>> obvious stupidity of his reasoning he started spewing forth profanity
>> like the HA ppl he is so terrified of.)
>
>Just a case of the chickens coming home to roost;

I disagree.

> when the crown themselves
>put in judges that can be easily manipulated away from justice, for their
>own gains.

The Crown gave Leask this job so I don't see the connection.

>Nobody benefits more from this system than the RCMP and
>politicians.
>
>That is why it is bad policy for the general public to tolerate corruption
>in our institutions.

I agree.

>This kind of systemic corruption we have requires
>radical reform,

Specifically what?

>and not simply a change of the guard, or angry letters to
>the editor either.
>
>The only reason the RCMP is pressuring groups like the HA is because they
>are competing for turf in the cocaine market.

I see no evidence of that.

> Just look at their involvement
>in working with meth dealers from Hong Kong*, and you'll see they are
>involved at the highest level.
>
>
>* anyone who want evidence, i'll be happy to provide the links to the W5
>feature that proves it.

Please do so.

Semper Libèr® .

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"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Of course you don't "see it".... they aren't THAT stupid.

They launder the money and control the sale via their front men at a safe
distance... similar to how a mafia works. That's why they brought in people
like the "meth queen" from Hong Kong.... and then promptly fired the two
RCMP constables who wanted to investigate the case. At the top of the RCMP
you have a plethora of freemasons who swore oaths of death to keep secrets
on the activities of their "brothers".... Have you ever seen the various
patches of the RCMP that contain freemasonic symbols?
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/Copy%20of%20patch3.jpg

They kill people for disclosing this kind of info, btw... This is not a
game. Look at what the CIA did to Gary Webb... They are all tied in. Why the
hell do you think we are in Afghanistan? You don't really think we are there
to flush out terrorists (did they find Osama yet?) or give women the vote do
you? The opium production has jumped some 1500 percent since we arrived...
HELLO!

Check these links out

The eerie climax of agent Castillo's career with the DEA took place in El
Salvador. One day, he received a cable from a fellow agent. He was told to
investigate possible drug smuggling by Nicaraguan Contras operating from
the Ilopango Air Force Base.

Castillo quickly discovered that the Contra pilots were, indeed, smuggling
narcotics back into the United States - using the same pilots, planes and
hangers that the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security
Council, under the direction of Lt. Col. Oliver North, used to maintain
their covert supply operation to the Contras.
http://www.powderburns.org/

Graphic of massive increase in Afghanistan production of Opium. NOTE: graph
bar in left pic should reflect a 16 times increase in opium producing
hectares
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/nwo_wmd3.jpg
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2006/08/17/afghan_opium_production_hits_record/
http://infowars.net/articles/September2006/030906Opium.htm
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-afghan15.html


Semper Libèr® .

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"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:11:56 GMT, "Semper Libèr® ."
> <.nopolicestates????!?~Hj...@freedom4all.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> >news:9ivi14hrf2d4q30bo...@4ax.com...
> >> Court upholds Hells Angel's acquittal, despite rude judge
> >> Ruling a heavy blow to Crown and police hoping to nail a top gang
> >> member
> >>
> >> Ian Mulgrew
> >> Vancouver Sun
> >>
> >> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
> >>
> >> The controversial acquittal of an elite Nomad member of the Hells
> >> Angels caught with 52 kilograms of cocaine worth $1.56 million has
> >> been upheld in spite of the judge's profane comments during the
> >> prosecutor's presentation of the case.
> >>
> > Just look at their involvement
> >in working with meth dealers from Hong Kong*, and you'll see they are
> >involved at the highest level.
> >
> >
> >* anyone who want evidence, i'll be happy to provide the links to the W5
> >feature that proves it.
>
> Please do so.

Its in three parts.... This story has since been purged from their original
archives. I hope every grasps the significance of this story.... Some may
need to watch it several times for it to really sink in, and to see how high
the corruption goes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ7K9eCkETQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky2btuBEyjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F1MouuutHE


Greg Carr

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No. Are their other fraternal groups or religious faiths that have
their emblems meshed with that of the GRC?


>
>They kill people for disclosing this kind of info, btw

Your courage in this matter is appreciated or is it anger because they
took your firearms? I recall reading about the CIA flying unmarked
planes except for the registration numbers in Ontario through USENET
three days before the newspapers printed the story. Could have been
part of the then secret prisons program.

>... This is not a
>game. Look at what the CIA did to Gary Webb... They are all tied in. Why the
>hell do you think we are in Afghanistan? You don't really think we are there
>to flush out terrorists (did they find Osama yet?) or give women the vote do
>you? The opium production has jumped some 1500 percent since we arrived...
>HELLO!

I've been against the Karzai regime and the Cdn support of it for
sometime.


>
>Check these links out
>
>The eerie climax of agent Castillo's career with the DEA took place in El
>Salvador. One day, he received a cable from a fellow agent. He was told to
>investigate possible drug smuggling by Nicaraguan Contras operating from
>the Ilopango Air Force Base.
>
>Castillo quickly discovered that the Contra pilots were, indeed, smuggling
>narcotics back into the United States - using the same pilots, planes and
>hangers that the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security
>Council, under the direction of Lt. Col. Oliver North, used to maintain
>their covert supply operation to the Contras.
>http://www.powderburns.org/
>
>Graphic of massive increase in Afghanistan production of Opium. NOTE: graph
>bar in left pic should reflect a 16 times increase in opium producing
>hectares
>http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/nwo_wmd3.jpg
>http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2006/08/17/afghan_opium_production_hits_record/
>http://infowars.net/articles/September2006/030906Opium.htm
>http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-afghan15.html
>

I've seen news reports where Cdn troops don't destroy the drug fields
they find. Since the Coalition has total air superiority and numerous
flights over the country every day these fields should be relatively
easy to find. Afghanis starve in the winter and their children die as
the Taliban have resurged to control 30% of the country. A salute to
the 83rd Cdn soldier to die there and the latest news is a Afghani
citizen dead after a protest against US troops.

Semper Libèr® .

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"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Not that i'm aware of....

Now have a look at this Victoria Police patch, and you can see there is a
real pattern here as far as police go. I assume you know a little bit about
the symbols... the 'all seeing eye' is a masonic symbol that traces its
roots through the cabalistic and Egyptian/Babylonian religions - its the eye
of Horus.

http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/a_victoria_crest.gif

http://www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html#eye-horus


> >
> >They kill people for disclosing this kind of info, btw
>
> Your courage in this matter is appreciated or is it anger because they
> took your firearms? I recall reading about the CIA flying unmarked
> planes except for the registration numbers in Ontario through USENET
> three days before the newspapers printed the story. Could have been
> part of the then secret prisons program.

We only here about the tip of the iceberg, on occassion. Like when one of
their planes crashed with about 4 tons of pure cocaine they were bringing in
to sell on the street through their dealers in Mexico.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8057
http://www.aztlan.net/cia_russian_mafia.htm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE


> >Castillo quickly discovered that the Contra pilots were, indeed,
smuggling
> >narcotics back into the United States - using the same pilots, planes and
> >hangers that the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security
> >Council, under the direction of Lt. Col. Oliver North, used to maintain
> >their covert supply operation to the Contras.
> >http://www.powderburns.org/
> >
> >Graphic of massive increase in Afghanistan production of Opium. NOTE:
graph
> >bar in left pic should reflect a 16 times increase in opium producing
> >hectares
> >http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/nwo_wmd3.jpg
>
>http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2006/08/17/afghan_opium_prod
uction_hits_record/
> >http://infowars.net/articles/September2006/030906Opium.htm
> >http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-afghan15.html
> >
>
> I've seen news reports where Cdn troops don't destroy the drug fields
> they find. Since the Coalition has total air superiority and numerous
> flights over the country every day these fields should be relatively
> easy to find. Afghanis starve in the winter and their children die as
> the Taliban have resurged to control 30% of the country. A salute to
> the 83rd Cdn soldier to die there and the latest news is a Afghani
> citizen dead after a protest against US troops.

They not only protect the fields... they compensate them for damages.
Canadians in Catch-22 compensating Afghan poppy growers
http://www.dose.ca/news/story.html?id=71a0b1c2-8dfa-405a-89d8-b13181e5a523


Greg Carr

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Actually it is the all seeing eye from the Bible.

A committee of four men, including Benjamin Franklin (the only
Freemason in the bunch), designed the Great Seal of the United States
in 1776. The image of the eye within a triangle to represent God was
suggested by the only artist among them, Pierre du Simitiere — who was
not a Freemason. Two other committees tinkered with the design before
being approved. The unfinished pyramid was suggested by Francis
Hopkinson (another non-Mason), and none of the final designers was a
Mason.

The eye within a triangle to represent God appears throughout the
Renaissance, long before speculative Freemasonry arrived on the scene.
The triangle being three-sided represents the Christian belief in the
Trinity of God — Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

As for the unfinished pyramid, it represents the strong, new nation of
the United States, destined to stand for centuries, just as the famous
pyramids have stood in Egypt. There are 13 rows of stones,
representing the 13 original colonies, with the image of God watching
over them.

I found some better stuff about this once but I can't find it now.

I'm calling it a night. Thanks for the info.

Semper Libèr® .

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"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:34:34 GMT, "Semper Libèr® ."

It's true that symbols can mean different things to different people... but
its also true that clandestine organizations try to mask the true intent of
the symbols with their alternatively associated benevolent meaning.. However
such is not the case in the examples I gave, which are formed by the grand
masters of the organization, and which are revealed to the inner political
hierarchy, which in freemasonry begins at or above the 33rd degree - which
is a political ranking.

As you will note from Biblical text, the Lord God of the Bible has TWO eyes,
and manifested in the flesh as you or I. So ask yourself how He could
accurately be characterized with one eye? The concept is traceable to
Buddhism or Egyptian/Babylonian mythology, and can be traced back to Nimrod
and the tower of Babble. In fact there are few "gods" depicted with one eye,
but it represents the eye of the Egyptian sun-god Horus who lost an eye
battling Set. The 'temple of Set' is another modern day name used for the
temple of Satan.

Amo 9:8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord are on the sinful kingdom, and I will
destroy it from the face of the earth

1Pe 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous

Every mason must swear to placing the following death curse on himself...

The oath sworn by the Entered Apprentice or first degree mason:

".binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut
across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough
sands of the sea, at low water mark." The Master Mason swears,".under no
less penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken
from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scatter before the four winds of
heaven." (Duncan's Ritual of Freemasonry, 3rd Ed., pp. 35 396, David McKay
Pub., New York, NY)


"You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should you be

summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him..

It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but your keeping your
obligations."
[ Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183 ]


Jim Shaw, the demitted 33rd degree Freemason, who resigned from Masonry
after becoming a Christian wrote in his book The Deadly Deception: "there is
underlying all Masonic thinking and writing, an attitude and spirit of
elitism which says, "Masonry is not for everyone, just for the select few."
At the same time Masonry teaches it is the only true religion and that all
other religions are but corrupted and perverted forms of Masonry.

This is both elitist and contradictory, in that it leaves no hope for the
non-elite to ever be able to find the "true religion." Freemasonry proudly
proclaims it makes good men better; but this leaves no provision for bad men
to ever be able to become good."

He continues: "It is significant, I think, that those whom Masonry rejects
and excludes are the very ones Jesus sought out to accept and minister to

---------------

On the secret doctrine of the mason.


One of the most hidden secrets involves the so-called fall of Angels. Satan
and his rebellious host will thus prove to have become the direct Saviours
and Creators of divine man. Thus Satan, once he ceases to be viewed in the
superstitious spirit of the church, grows into the grandiose image. It is
Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God. Satan (or Lucifer)
represents the Centrifugal Energy of the Universe, this ever-living symbol
of self-sacrifice for the intellectual independence of humanity.

Sister H.P. Blavatsky
The Secret Doctrine
Pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533

"The day has come when Fellow Craftsman must know and apply their knowledge.
The lost key to their grade is the mastery of emotion , which places the
energy of the universe at their disposal. Man can only expect to be
entrusted with great power by proving his ability to use it constructively
and selflessly. When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the
block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has
learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in
his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his
ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his
forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered
his sword into a plowshare." [Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost
Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram Abiff , Forward by Reynold E.
Blight, 33rd Degree, K.T., Illustrations by J. Augustus Knapp, 32nd Degree,
Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, p. 48

http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html

> A committee of four men, including Benjamin Franklin (the only
> Freemason in the bunch), designed the Great Seal of the United States
> in 1776. The image of the eye within a triangle to represent God was

> suggested by the only artist among them, Pierre du Simitiere - who was


> not a Freemason. Two other committees tinkered with the design before
> being approved. The unfinished pyramid was suggested by Francis
> Hopkinson (another non-Mason), and none of the final designers was a
> Mason.

It's actually hard to find a citation for who approved or originated the eye
on the great seal, but the signature of who approved it are found within the
seal itself. For example, around the eye is the phrase 'Annuit Coeptis' and
'Novus Ordo Seclorum' which means 'announcing the birth of the new world
order'. It also spells out the words 'mason' when the star of Canaan (and/or
goat of mendes) is superimposed - or it could be a 9 million to one
coincidence.

http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/hexseal.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/theawakeningnews/great_seal_MASON.gif

The 'hexogram' is also a tool used by pagans to invoke Satan. It is also
the sign of Anti Christ with 6 points, 6 angles and 6 planes (666).

Also by coincidence... the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed 33
years 36 days after the date of its contruction on August 6 1968. The number
36 is a shorthand for the number 666, which is the sum of the numbers 1-36
adding up to 666. The number 36 also represents the five sided pentagram,
which is also a satanic symbol.

Freemason apron containing the 'all seeing eye' 'skull and bones' 'compass
and square'. The black portion is the hidden side of the apron.
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/2sidedmasonicapron.jpg

If freemason symbols are so benign, why all the effort to distance
themselves and obscure the symbology?

> The eye within a triangle to represent God appears throughout the
> Renaissance, long before speculative Freemasonry arrived on the scene.

Actually it started out as the eye of Horus, or Isis/Osiris in egyption
myth.

> The triangle being three-sided represents the Christian belief in the

> Trinity of God - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Satan also has a false trinity... The key is the intent of the symbol...
Pyramids have never been associated with the origins of Christianity, but
they are very well associated with the illuminati, freemasons and Egyptian
religions. The original symbol for Christianity in the early church was the
fish, and it continues to be so.

The pyramid on the great seal has 13 levels representing the 13 bloodlines
of the ruling elite/royal families. In fact the number 13 appears in the
symbol in several places...

The fact that they can put this much occult symbolism into a seal, and yet
still convince people it is Christian, speaks to the coming deception of the
'one world religion' which will honour a false Christian leader... and those
who kill in his name will think they do God a service.

These people are right on schedule...


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