Tories kill Information registry used to hold government accountable
Hatem
OTTAWA - The federal Conservatives have quietly killed a giant
information registry that was used by lawyers, academics, journalists
and ordinary citizens to hold government accountable.
The registry, created in 1989, is an electronic list of every request
filed to all federal departments and agencies under the Access to
Information Act.
Known as CAIRS, for Co-ordination of Access to Information Requests
System, the database allowed ordinary citizens to identify millions of
pages of once-secret documents that became public through individual
freedom-of-information requests over many years.
But in a notice last week to civil servants on the Treasury Board
website, officials posted an innocuous obituary: effective April 1,
2008, "the requirement to update CAIRS is no longer in effect."
A spokesman for Treasury Board confirmed Friday that the system is being
killed because "extensive" consultations showed it was not valued by
government departments.
The consultations concluded "the valuable resources currently being used
to maintain CAIRS would be better used in the collection and analysis of
improved statistical reporting," said Robert Makichuk.
Public Works, which has operated the database, spent $166,000 improving
it in 2001. As recently as 2003 federal officials had been working on a
publicly accessible, online version.
Monthly paper lists have also been made available since the 1990s for
public consultation at a central federal office in Ottawa.
In the meantime, a Canadian academic put the database on his website and
opened it to public use, allowing citizens to quickly search thousands
of requests for key words.
Alasdair Roberts, a political scientist at Syracuse University in New
York, built a version of the database by requesting the CAIRS electronic
records through an Access to Information Act request, and updated the
site monthly.
CBC journalist David McKie took over the work in 2006 using another
publicly accessible website (http://www.onlinedemocracy.ca).
Users searching key words cannot access the documents themselves, only
the wording of the original access-to-information request, the date, the
department, a file number, and general information about the requester,
whether media, business, academic or other.
But by citing that file number, a citizen can approach the appropriate
department and request copies of the already released documents.
CAIRS was originally designed as an internal government tool to manage
the flow of often embarrassing information. Particularly sensitive
requests from news media or opposition politicians would often be
red-flagged for special handling that frequently delayed release.
But requesters soon began to mine the database to discover obscure
documents, fine-tune the phrasing on new requests, and even to do
statistical studies - effectively turning the tool against government.
If departments and agencies are no longer required to update the CAIRS
database with new requests, its value as an accountability tool will
quickly diminish, critics said.
"This is terrible and I consider this to be yet one more step in making
records less accessible," said Michel Drapeau, a lawyer, frequent user
and co-author of a standard reference work on access law.
"To do this now after the CAIRS' usefulness has been proven over and
over again is indicative of the extent to which government will go to
stifle the access regime."
New Democrat MP Dawn Black, whose office uses the database regularly,
condemned the Tories for shutting down the system.
"It's another example of the Harper government's talk about
accountability and transparency - they talk the talk, but they don't
walk the walk."
The Conservative government has a mixed record in the area of freedom of
information. The Federal Accountability Act broadened the access
legislation to cover new entities, such as the CBC, Via Rail, Canada
Post and even the Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada,
who's the ombudsman for the system.
At the same time, long delays for responses, along with heavy censorship
of documents, have become endemic.
The number of complaints received by the information commissioner in
2007-2008, for example, soared to 2,387 - more than 1,000 higher than
the previous year. The level is the second-highest on record, next to
the 2,821 received in 1988 - 2,242 of those from a single complainant.
sdgreen
"Hatem" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
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Looks like CAIRS was an ancient system that really does not work that well.
Further, several Federal Government Departments never used the system.
Therefore, the system is really ineffective. Any system designed in the 80's
then patched is pretty in efficient.
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jimjames5417
It is pretty obvious that the liberal media and left-wingers are most
unhappy about the election of an honest government - and are abusing
every method they can use in an attempt to embarass the government -
even for things done under the LIEberals!!
Roy
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Heil Harper.
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bluedev...@yahoo.com
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Harper is doing a great job, despite having one arm tied behind his
back. I'm looking forward to watching him perform after we give him a
majority next election.
Chom Noamsky
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> Harper is doing a great job, despite having one arm tied behind his
> back. I'm looking forward to watching him perform after we give him a
> majority next election.
Don't hold your breath.
bluedev...@yahoo.com
> ><bluedevil_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message:
I'm not holding my breath Chom. I'm a realist and in being so, I
realize Canada has way more takers than givers, and takers tend to
vote Liberal, NDP and Green.
On the other hand, the latest issue of McCleans magazine claims the
under 40 crowd is swinging Harper's way.
Perhaps there is hope for Canada's future after all, eh?
Greg Carr
>By Dean Beeby, The Canadian Press
>
>OTTAWA - The federal Conservatives have quietly killed a giant
>information registry that was used by lawyers, academics, journalists
>and ordinary citizens to hold government accountable.
>
>The registry, created in 1989, is an electronic list of every request
>filed to all federal departments and agencies under the Access to
>Information Act.
>
>
>Known as CAIRS, for Co-ordination of Access to Information Requests
>System, the database allowed ordinary citizens to identify millions of
>pages of once-secret documents that became public through individual
>freedom-of-information requests over many years.
>
>
>But in a notice last week to civil servants on the Treasury Board
>website, officials posted an innocuous obituary: effective April 1,
>2008, "the requirement to update CAIRS is no longer in effect."
>
>
>A spokesman for Treasury Board confirmed Friday that the system is being
>killed because "extensive" consultations showed it was not valued by
>government departments.
>
No kidding. They want to keep their mistakes and stupidity secret.
>
>The consultations concluded "the valuable resources currently being used
>to maintain CAIRS would be better used in the collection and analysis of
>improved statistical reporting," said Robert Makichuk.
I disagree.
>
>
>Public Works, which has operated the database, spent $166,000 improving
>it in 2001. As recently as 2003 federal officials had been working on a
>publicly accessible, online version.
>
This is what they should continue to do so.
>
>Monthly paper lists have also been made available since the 1990s for
>public consultation at a central federal office in Ottawa.
That is nice but it isn't the same as a good website.
>
>
>In the meantime, a Canadian academic put the database on his website and
>opened it to public use, allowing citizens to quickly search thousands
>of requests for key words.
>
>
>Alasdair Roberts, a political scientist at Syracuse University in New
>York, built a version of the database by requesting the CAIRS electronic
>records through an Access to Information Act request, and updated the
>site monthly.
>
>
>CBC journalist David McKie took over the work in 2006 using another
>publicly accessible website (http://www.onlinedemocracy.ca).
Clap, clap, clap.
>
>
>Users searching key words cannot access the documents themselves, only
>the wording of the original access-to-information request, the date, the
>department, a file number, and general information about the requester,
>whether media, business, academic or other.
>
>
>But by citing that file number, a citizen can approach the appropriate
>department and request copies of the already released documents.
>
>
>CAIRS was originally designed as an internal government tool to manage
>the flow of often embarrassing information. Particularly sensitive
>requests from news media or opposition politicians would often be
>red-flagged for special handling that frequently delayed release.
>
>
>But requesters soon began to mine the database to discover obscure
>documents, fine-tune the phrasing on new requests, and even to do
>statistical studies - effectively turning the tool against government.
How horrible.
>
>
>If departments and agencies are no longer required to update the CAIRS
>database with new requests, its value as an accountability tool will
>quickly diminish, critics said.
>
>
>"This is terrible and I consider this to be yet one more step in making
>records less accessible," said Michel Drapeau, a lawyer, frequent user
>and co-author of a standard reference work on access law.
He is correct.
>
>"To do this now after the CAIRS' usefulness has been proven over and
>over again is indicative of the extent to which government will go to
>stifle the access regime."
>
>New Democrat MP Dawn Black, whose office uses the database regularly,
>condemned the Tories for shutting down the system.
I also condemn the Tories for doing this.
>
>"It's another example of the Harper government's talk about
>accountability and transparency - they talk the talk, but they don't
>walk the walk."
>
>The Conservative government has a mixed record in the area of freedom of
>information. The Federal Accountability Act broadened the access
>legislation to cover new entities, such as the CBC, Via Rail, Canada
>Post and even the Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada,
>who's the ombudsman for the system.
>
>At the same time, long delays for responses, along with heavy censorship
>of documents, have become endemic.
>
>The number of complaints received by the information commissioner in
>2007-2008, for example, soared to 2,387 - more than 1,000 higher than
>the previous year. The level is the second-highest on record, next to
>the 2,821 received in 1988 - 2,242 of those from a single complainant.
>
The govt should apologize and reverse their decision.
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Greg Carr
Various ppl seem to disagree and they are the ones using the system.
Greg Carr
Cutting off an access to information isn't a hallmark of an honest
govt. These files also "embarrass" the Liberals since they were in
power for many yrs.
ronin
"jimjames5417" <james...@usa.net> wrote in message
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This is the kind of shit the Commies pull.
You a fucking Commie?
ronin
<bluedev...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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After he fucked over Albertans with the Income Trusts flipflop?!
Not likely. HarperCONs will not get one new vote.
ronin
<bluedev...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If they didn't vote 2 years ago, they ain't gonna vote now.
Not during the Harpercession.
Greg Carr
I read the nonsense of a recession in the Vancouver Sun the other day
in a headline. The story explained it was a manufacturing recession.
That isn't good but fortunately we are now in a service and
information economy.
Same newspaper said the day before that BC unemployment was at a 40 yr
low. The firm I work at has 2 P/T openings and 3 F/T openings and the
number of ppl they get applying to each opening is around 5 instead of
the fifty they got five yrs ago. As well two ppl have quit without
notice :-).
I passed by a construction site the other day in New West that was
hiring on site and often see help wanted signs. There was an ad in the
paper for order pickers at 15.72/hr. The local media report the
economy is booming, I just think it is going good.
Greg Carr
They admitted it was a flip flop and it was for the national good. I
work for an income trust company and the shares are doing fine and not
one person in mngmt has ever complained about the move Flaherty did.
>
>Not likely. HarperCONs will not get one new vote.
Having the Foreign Affairs Minister having sex with a gang bang girl
from the Hell's Angels doesn't exactly lead to new voters being
enamoured of them as the party of moral virtue. I wonder how fast she
steals or copies reports he leaves lying around and gives them to her
biker criminal controllers.