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LuKreme

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Jul 20, 2011, 5:54:20 PM7/20/11
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The Windows in BBEdit do not behave properly in Lion. You cannot resize them without using the BRCW (Bottom Right Corner Widget). This seems to apply to all windows in BBedit. As far as I can tell, this is the only app I have that doesn’t work with the new ‘any edge’ resizing in 10.7

I like BBEdit 10, but oh man am I looking forward to 10.0.1 ;)

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Rich Siegel

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Jul 20, 2011, 6:22:51 PM7/20/11
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On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, LuKreme <kre...@kreme.com> wrote:

>The Windows in BBEdit do not behave properly in Lion. You cannot
>resize them without using the BRCW (Bottom Right Corner Widget). This
>seems to apply to all windows in BBedit. As far as I can tell, this is
>the only app I have that doesn’t work with the new ‘any edge’ resizing
>in 10.7

This is unfortunately a limitation that will exist for some
time. We've inquired with Apple about having some support added
so that BBEdit windows can be resized using the edges.

R.
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Chris

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Jul 20, 2011, 7:03:54 PM7/20/11
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Or, rather than Apple making a special case for you, you could make
BBEdit a full 64-bit Cocoa app?

I love BBEdit for so many reasons but the way it clings to the past on
some things makes me want to pull my hair out. And I remember the past
- I've been using it since System 7.

On Jul 20, 6:22 pm, Rich Siegel <sie...@barebones.com> wrote:

Rich Siegel

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Jul 20, 2011, 7:12:02 PM7/20/11
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On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Chris <thebo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Or, rather than Apple making a special case for you, you could make
>BBEdit a full 64-bit Cocoa app?

Uh, sure, I'll just crap that out between breakfast and my 10am
coffee break. What do you think we've been working on for the
past year?

>I love BBEdit for so many reasons but the way it clings to the past on
>some things makes me want to pull my hair out.

I hope you'll forgive me for saying so, but that's just about
the most ridiculous and offensive thing I can recall having
heard recently, and I've heard a lot.

David Kendal

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Jul 20, 2011, 7:19:41 PM7/20/11
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On Jul 21, 12:12 am, Rich Siegel <sie...@barebones.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Chris <theboerg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Or, rather than Apple making a special case for you, you could make
> >BBEdit a full 64-bit Cocoa app?
>
> Uh, sure, I'll just crap that out between breakfast and my 10am
> coffee break. What do you think we've been working on for the
> past year?
>
> >I love BBEdit for so many reasons but the way it clings to the past on
> >some things makes me want to pull my hair out.
>
> I hope you'll forgive me for saying so, but that's just about
> the most ridiculous and offensive thing I can recall having
> heard recently, and I've heard a lot.

I wish it was possible to mark an email as a favourite.

To 'star' or 'like' an email, as it were, so that it's publicly
visible that one has done so.

But it's not, so I'll spam the list with this and say:
Well said, Rich.

— dpk.

Fritz Anderson

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Jul 20, 2011, 7:34:49 PM7/20/11
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On 20 Jul 2011, at 6:03 PM, Chris wrote:

> Or, rather than Apple making a special case for you, you could make
> BBEdit a full 64-bit Cocoa app?
>
> I love BBEdit for so many reasons but the way it clings to the past on
> some things makes me want to pull my hair out. And I remember the past
> - I've been using it since System 7.

Um. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that like many applications you've been using since System 7, BBEdit is based on the Carbon framework, which is not 64-bit compatible. Converting to Cocoa would be (I gather from Rich's message, is) a Herculean task. It would take months of careful planning, months of execution, and months of fanatical testing. Adobe, with its billions, did not do it quickly (hasn't done it at all, for Flash), and arguably did not do it well.

You're not just asking for ponies, you're asking for them to give you in a ride in a solid-gold, diamond-encrusted coach. That flies, swims, and shoots laser torpedoes. Bare Bones can do that, but it won't come quick or cheap for them.

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Alex Satrapa

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Jul 20, 2011, 7:50:15 PM7/20/11
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On 21/07/2011, at 09:12 , Rich Siegel wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Chris <thebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Or, rather than Apple making a special case for you, you could make
>> BBEdit a full 64-bit Cocoa app?
>
> Uh, sure, I'll just crap that out between breakfast and my 10am coffee break. What do you think we've been working on for the past year?

This is your punishment for being so good at what you do — you're no longer limited by being mere mortals and you should be able to perform miracles! I'm at work, about to use BBEdit 10 in anger for the first time, let's see if I can't find something to complain about too :)

Thank you for the awesome work you've done, Bare Bones.

Alex Satrapa
Happy Customer & Fine Software Aficionado

Kerri Hicks

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Jul 20, 2011, 8:53:11 PM7/20/11
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On Jul 20, 7:12 pm, Rich Siegel <sie...@barebones.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Chris <theboerg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Or, rather than Apple making a special case for you, you could make
>> BBEdit a full 64-bit Cocoa app?

> Uh, sure, I'll just crap that out between breakfast and my 10am
> coffee break.

Yikes. What the heck have you been eating for breakfast?

--k

Nigel Stanger

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Jul 20, 2011, 10:17:16 PM7/20/11
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On Thu Jul 21 12:53:11 2011, Kerri Hicks spake thus:

> On Jul 21, 12:12 am, Rich Siegel <sie...@barebones.com> wrote:
>> Uh, sure, I'll just crap that out between breakfast and my 10am
>> coffee break.
>
> Yikes. What the heck have you been eating for breakfast?

Now *that* was even funnier than Rich's reply :).

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LuKreme

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Jul 21, 2011, 1:09:26 AM7/21/11
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On Jul 20, 2011, at 17:03, Chris <thebo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love BBEdit for so many reasons but the way it clings to the past on
> some things makes me want to pull my hair out. And I remember the past

Hmm. I don't really see that. I will say that BBEdit is quite possibly the most stable app I've ever used. I will put up with using the BRCW as long as I have too.

Before I installed BBEdit 10 I'd been running my previous version for 19 days and had 30+ documents open. Most had unsaved changes too. It's nice to feel comfortable with leaving an app like that.


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