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Matt Iverson
Dec 9, 2007, 3:14:54 PM12/9/07
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Hi all,
So we've confirmed rooms on the UC Berkeley campus for March 29th and 30th, 2008 and before publicizing the even, I'd like to ask the group about pricing for the event.
I didn't attend BCBSeattle, but noticed that participant contributions were $35 and sponsorship from $1,000-$250. Based on the fact that the facilities at UCB are inexpensive- I believe the rooms are free and we just have to pay janitorial fees on both days, how should we set up the pricing for attendees and sponsors? Are we including food, beverages, etc.?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Matt
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So we've confirmed rooms on the UC Berkeley campus for March 29th and 30th, 2008 and before publicizing the even, I'd like to ask the group about pricing for the event.
I didn't attend BCBSeattle, but noticed that participant contributions were $35 and sponsorship from $1,000-$250. Based on the fact that the facilities at UCB are inexpensive- I believe the rooms are free and we just have to pay janitorial fees on both days, how should we set up the pricing for attendees and sponsors? Are we including food, beverages, etc.?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Matt
--
Boulevard R
ma...@boulevardr.com
415.250.6727
365 Brannan St., San Francisco, CA 94107
www.boulevardr.com
Jesse Robbins
Dec 9, 2007, 4:27:49 PM12/9/07
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I'd recommend getting sponsors for specific expenses, eg one sponsor for breakfast, another for lunch, another for snacks, etc.
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity & typos.
-Jesse Robbins
Frederic Baud
Dec 10, 2007, 1:57:28 AM12/10/07
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Fees and sponsorship has always created intense discussion within the
BarCamp's community (e.g. http://tinyurl.com/266lwa for pricing and
http://tinyurl.com/yqzyp6 for sponsorship).
While I think having a free participation (as in free beer) is a way
to have really interesting people participating (pennyless
innovators), it is also a big burden for organizers because of low
attendance.
Organizing sponsorship so that no sponsor has a heavy hand on an event
is also a good guideline to keep the event free (as in free thinking)
I think we should try to find a pragmatic approach and I'd recommend
that participation fee should be set not to deter a pennyless
innovator but just to put off free riders (not the free we want ;-) ).
Then, exactly like Jesse wrote, needs should be broken down into
manageable identifyable pieces and proposed for sponsorship. Is there
a site like a wedding list site that would let easily manage this part
of the process (we can ask the question on the barcamp's forum if
there's no obvious answer)?
Cheers,
Frederic
On Dec 9, 10:27 pm, Jesse Robbins <jesse.robb...@openaid.org> wrote:
> I'd recommend getting sponsors for specific expenses, eg one sponsor
> for breakfast, another for lunch, another for snacks, etc.
>
> -Jesse Robbins
> +1.206.755.3739
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity & typos.
>
BarCamp's community (e.g. http://tinyurl.com/266lwa for pricing and
http://tinyurl.com/yqzyp6 for sponsorship).
While I think having a free participation (as in free beer) is a way
to have really interesting people participating (pennyless
innovators), it is also a big burden for organizers because of low
attendance.
Organizing sponsorship so that no sponsor has a heavy hand on an event
is also a good guideline to keep the event free (as in free thinking)
I think we should try to find a pragmatic approach and I'd recommend
that participation fee should be set not to deter a pennyless
innovator but just to put off free riders (not the free we want ;-) ).
Then, exactly like Jesse wrote, needs should be broken down into
manageable identifyable pieces and proposed for sponsorship. Is there
a site like a wedding list site that would let easily manage this part
of the process (we can ask the question on the barcamp's forum if
there's no obvious answer)?
Cheers,
Frederic
On Dec 9, 10:27 pm, Jesse Robbins <jesse.robb...@openaid.org> wrote:
> I'd recommend getting sponsors for specific expenses, eg one sponsor
> for breakfast, another for lunch, another for snacks, etc.
>
> -Jesse Robbins
> +1.206.755.3739
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity & typos.
>
> On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:14, "Matt Iverson" <m...@boulevardr.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > So we've confirmed rooms on the UC Berkeley campus for March 29th
> > and 30th, 2008 and before publicizing the even, I'd like to ask the
> > group about pricing for the event.
>
> > I didn't attend BCBSeattle, but noticed that participant
> > contributions were $35 and sponsorship from $1,000-$250. Based on
> > the fact that the facilities at UCB are inexpensive- I believe the
> > rooms are free and we just have to pay janitorial fees on both days,
> > how should we set up the pricing for attendees and sponsors? Are we
> > including food, beverages, etc.?
>
> > Please advise.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
>
> > --
> > Boulevard R
> > m...@boulevardr.com
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > So we've confirmed rooms on the UC Berkeley campus for March 29th
> > and 30th, 2008 and before publicizing the even, I'd like to ask the
> > group about pricing for the event.
>
> > I didn't attend BCBSeattle, but noticed that participant
> > contributions were $35 and sponsorship from $1,000-$250. Based on
> > the fact that the facilities at UCB are inexpensive- I believe the
> > rooms are free and we just have to pay janitorial fees on both days,
> > how should we set up the pricing for attendees and sponsors? Are we
> > including food, beverages, etc.?
>
> > Please advise.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
>
> > --
> > Boulevard R
mmpartee
Dec 10, 2007, 10:54:40 AM12/10/07
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Hey Matt,
Congratulations on getting the space and the event days. That's great!
I would actually recommend that you think about having the event for
one day rather than two. It's always better to leave everyone wanting
more, rather than not having enough interesting stuff to fill both
days. But Jesse has better experience with this with BCBSeattle. I'm
going to shoot for one day with BCBNewEngland. March 29 was one of the
days I was considering for BCBNew England. Should I push it back a
week or two, or should we do it simultaneously? I just did a workshop
in Lake George NY, and it was pretty cool to twitter for a few minutes
with some friends at a CU youth conference happening in Austin TX. But
I don't think twitter is a tool that allows for a true feeling of
being there. I will also twitter this question out to my friends.
Thoughts?
Morriss
Congratulations on getting the space and the event days. That's great!
I would actually recommend that you think about having the event for
one day rather than two. It's always better to leave everyone wanting
more, rather than not having enough interesting stuff to fill both
days. But Jesse has better experience with this with BCBSeattle. I'm
going to shoot for one day with BCBNewEngland. March 29 was one of the
days I was considering for BCBNew England. Should I push it back a
week or two, or should we do it simultaneously? I just did a workshop
in Lake George NY, and it was pretty cool to twitter for a few minutes
with some friends at a CU youth conference happening in Austin TX. But
I don't think twitter is a tool that allows for a true feeling of
being there. I will also twitter this question out to my friends.
Thoughts?
Morriss
Frederic Baud
Dec 10, 2007, 1:28:14 PM12/10/07
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One possibility for a 2-day events is to have sessions on the first
day and a mashpit on the second day where people try to set-up
innovative composite services through scripting. This is of course an
exercise requiring a minimum number of coders implementing during the
second part of the mashpit, all the great services that have been
discussed during the first.
Frederic
day and a mashpit on the second day where people try to set-up
innovative composite services through scripting. This is of course an
exercise requiring a minimum number of coders implementing during the
second part of the mashpit, all the great services that have been
discussed during the first.
Frederic
Matt Iverson
Dec 11, 2007, 12:15:27 PM12/11/07
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So we could plan on BCBSF as a one-day event on Saturday the 29th and if there's demand, we can rollover into the 30th, since we have space reserved anyway.
We can run two events simultaneously, but there's a good chance that there won't be too much overlap on issues to discuss. My guess is that SF will be more about startups/industry and New England will be more about CUs based on the venues and local economies. Also, my limited experience using technology to have meaningful long-distance interactions has not been great and while it can be useful for decision making (board meetings, etc.) I'm not sure what the real benefit would be to barcamp participants. If it's just for the fun of it, then no problem there.
So in summary- how about BCBSF on Sat., 3/29 and 3/30 can be for follow-on (decision to be made at the end of the day on the 30th) or sightseeing.
Matt
We can run two events simultaneously, but there's a good chance that there won't be too much overlap on issues to discuss. My guess is that SF will be more about startups/industry and New England will be more about CUs based on the venues and local economies. Also, my limited experience using technology to have meaningful long-distance interactions has not been great and while it can be useful for decision making (board meetings, etc.) I'm not sure what the real benefit would be to barcamp participants. If it's just for the fun of it, then no problem there.
So in summary- how about BCBSF on Sat., 3/29 and 3/30 can be for follow-on (decision to be made at the end of the day on the 30th) or sightseeing.
Matt
Frederic Baud
Dec 11, 2007, 1:04:47 PM12/11/07
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I agree that the basic element of the connection between the two
BarCampBanks will be fun and has no special meaningful purpose we can
really think of. So this can make sense if this is no hassle to set
up. Plus, I enjoyed following BarCampBankSeattle from afar and some
people could find interest following whatever we may exchange between
the two sites.
Do you think there will be a wifi connection available for
participants?
I'll be travellling from Europe and I would of course like to meet and
discuss with as many people as possible, so I'll certainly be one of
the participants asking for a rollover; could be informal brunch or
any kind of chat without any serious agenda.
Cheers,
Frederic
On Dec 11, 6:15 pm, "Matt Iverson" <m...@boulevardr.com> wrote:
> So we could plan on BCBSF as a one-day event on Saturday the 29th and if
> there's demand, we can rollover into the 30th, since we have space reserved
> anyway.
>
> We can run two events simultaneously, but there's a good chance that there
> won't be too much overlap on issues to discuss. My guess is that SF will be
> more about startups/industry and New England will be more about CUs based on
> the venues and local economies. Also, my limited experience using
> technology to have meaningful long-distance interactions has not been great
> and while it can be useful for decision making (board meetings, etc.) I'm
> not sure what the real benefit would be to barcamp participants. If it's
> just for the fun of it, then no problem there.
>
> So in summary- how about BCBSF on Sat., 3/29 and 3/30 can be for follow-on
> (decision to be made at the end of the day on the 30th) or sightseeing.
>
> Matt
>
> Boulevard R
> m...@boulevardr.com
BarCampBanks will be fun and has no special meaningful purpose we can
really think of. So this can make sense if this is no hassle to set
up. Plus, I enjoyed following BarCampBankSeattle from afar and some
people could find interest following whatever we may exchange between
the two sites.
Do you think there will be a wifi connection available for
participants?
I'll be travellling from Europe and I would of course like to meet and
discuss with as many people as possible, so I'll certainly be one of
the participants asking for a rollover; could be informal brunch or
any kind of chat without any serious agenda.
Cheers,
Frederic
On Dec 11, 6:15 pm, "Matt Iverson" <m...@boulevardr.com> wrote:
> So we could plan on BCBSF as a one-day event on Saturday the 29th and if
> there's demand, we can rollover into the 30th, since we have space reserved
> anyway.
>
> We can run two events simultaneously, but there's a good chance that there
> won't be too much overlap on issues to discuss. My guess is that SF will be
> more about startups/industry and New England will be more about CUs based on
> the venues and local economies. Also, my limited experience using
> technology to have meaningful long-distance interactions has not been great
> and while it can be useful for decision making (board meetings, etc.) I'm
> not sure what the real benefit would be to barcamp participants. If it's
> just for the fun of it, then no problem there.
>
> So in summary- how about BCBSF on Sat., 3/29 and 3/30 can be for follow-on
> (decision to be made at the end of the day on the 30th) or sightseeing.
>
> Matt
>
> On Dec 10, 2007 10:28 AM, Frederic Baud <fredericb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > One possibility for a 2-day events is to have sessions on the first
> > day and a mashpit on the second day where people try to set-up
> > innovative composite services through scripting. This is of course an
> > exercise requiring a minimum number of coders implementing during the
> > second part of the mashpit, all the great services that have been
> > discussed during the first.
>
> > Frederic
>
> > On Dec 10, 4:54 pm, mmpartee < morr...@everythingcu.com> wrote:
> > > Hey Matt,
>
> > > Congratulations on getting the space and the event days. That's great!
> > > I would actually recommend that you think about having the event for
> > > one day rather than two. It's always better to leave everyone wanting
> > > more, rather than not having enough interesting stuff to fill both
> > > days. But Jesse has better experience with this with BCBSeattle. I'm
> > > going to shoot for one day with BCBNewEngland. March 29 was one of the
> > > days I was considering for BCBNew England. Should I push it back a
> > > week or two, or should we do it simultaneously? I just did a workshop
> > > in Lake George NY, and it was pretty cool to twitter for a few minutes
> > > with some friends at a CU youth conference happening in Austin TX. But
> > > I don't think twitter is a tool that allows for a true feeling of
> > > being there. I will also twitter this question out to my friends.
>
> > > Thoughts?
> > > Morriss
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> > One possibility for a 2-day events is to have sessions on the first
> > day and a mashpit on the second day where people try to set-up
> > innovative composite services through scripting. This is of course an
> > exercise requiring a minimum number of coders implementing during the
> > second part of the mashpit, all the great services that have been
> > discussed during the first.
>
> > Frederic
>
> > On Dec 10, 4:54 pm, mmpartee < morr...@everythingcu.com> wrote:
> > > Hey Matt,
>
> > > Congratulations on getting the space and the event days. That's great!
> > > I would actually recommend that you think about having the event for
> > > one day rather than two. It's always better to leave everyone wanting
> > > more, rather than not having enough interesting stuff to fill both
> > > days. But Jesse has better experience with this with BCBSeattle. I'm
> > > going to shoot for one day with BCBNewEngland. March 29 was one of the
> > > days I was considering for BCBNew England. Should I push it back a
> > > week or two, or should we do it simultaneously? I just did a workshop
> > > in Lake George NY, and it was pretty cool to twitter for a few minutes
> > > with some friends at a CU youth conference happening in Austin TX. But
> > > I don't think twitter is a tool that allows for a true feeling of
> > > being there. I will also twitter this question out to my friends.
>
> > > Thoughts?
> > > Morriss
>
> Boulevard R
> m...@boulevardr.com
Matt Iverson
Dec 11, 2007, 6:04:20 PM12/11/07
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I know there is a wireless network for students and it's password protected. I'll inquire to see what sort of wireless network is available. Maybe one of the BCBSF participants can set one up.
Matt
Matt
mmpartee
Dec 12, 2007, 9:37:54 AM12/12/07
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Hi Frederick,
Perhaps we can do BarCampBank NewEngland the Saturday after BCB SF.
Partly because I am interested in attending BCB SF myself. And then
you could stop by the east coast on your way back from the west coast
of the U.S.? Matt, you're right to a certain extent about different
focus, but we do plan on having Peter Glyman of Geezeo, and Ron
Shevlin of Epsilon participate. So BCB NE won't be just about credit
unions.
I'm so pleased that both are shaping up! This is cool stuff.
Morriss
Perhaps we can do BarCampBank NewEngland the Saturday after BCB SF.
Partly because I am interested in attending BCB SF myself. And then
you could stop by the east coast on your way back from the west coast
of the U.S.? Matt, you're right to a certain extent about different
focus, but we do plan on having Peter Glyman of Geezeo, and Ron
Shevlin of Epsilon participate. So BCB NE won't be just about credit
unions.
I'm so pleased that both are shaping up! This is cool stuff.
Morriss
mmpartee
Dec 12, 2007, 9:40:41 AM12/12/07
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Oh, btw, America's Credit Union Museum definitely has wifi. Their
facility is nicely hooked up, tech-wise.
facility is nicely hooked up, tech-wise.
Frederic Baud
Dec 12, 2007, 9:57:29 AM12/12/07
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I agree that having people wanting to attend both events definitely
outweighs any foreseeable benefits of having synchronous remote
exchanges. I don't know though if I'll be able to participate both
BarCampBanks, I may not bear staying away from family that long.
I indeed think that it would be cool having people bridging the two
events; and from the latest announcements of Zopa partnering with a
couple of CUs I think that fi-startups and CUs may have indeed a lot
of ground talking together. Even if each BarCampBank has its own
flavor, we'll certainly find great value in the variety of
participants.
I totally share the excitement and I must say that Matt and Morriss
have been doing a wonderful job.
Frederic
outweighs any foreseeable benefits of having synchronous remote
exchanges. I don't know though if I'll be able to participate both
BarCampBanks, I may not bear staying away from family that long.
I indeed think that it would be cool having people bridging the two
events; and from the latest announcements of Zopa partnering with a
couple of CUs I think that fi-startups and CUs may have indeed a lot
of ground talking together. Even if each BarCampBank has its own
flavor, we'll certainly find great value in the variety of
participants.
I totally share the excitement and I must say that Matt and Morriss
have been doing a wonderful job.
Frederic
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