Thailand Next Web Apps 2008

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hello guys,

I would like to talk about the next event about Web Applications in Thailand called 'Thailand Next Web Apps 2008,' which will be held on August 16. Current information of the event is at http://sikachu.com/thailand-next-web-apps/

I have heard that somebody suggest about merging the event to Barcamp 2. I thought about it, and I think that I won't merge the event. The thing is: I don't think my event would stick into barcamp rule, like 100% participations. Also, I want this event to be the opportunity for the new startups, which might not be able to say anything on the barcamp date. If you look at the last barcamp bangkok, then you would know that lots of sessions got dropped because of little vote, which I would give them a chance to speak since this event will be smaller.

However, even I said that I don't want to merge it, I'm still under consideration though. I still got little progress here about my event, doesn't know where to place it yet, doesn't know who's going to talk in my event yet, and also I don't know who would help me as the organizer though .. yes John, i'm looking at your :)

I would like to ask you guys to help me as organizer. I would need lots of help since this event is not well-known as Barcamp so I think it would be hard to fill people in. Also there're lots of things that need to be done. So, if you can give me a hand, I would happy to hear about. :)

I'm working on create the website about this event, which will post the update about this event later. It will be on http://nextwebapps.com some day.

I can't wait to see how this event turns out, will it be a hit or a miss. So, if you can, then please give me a hand :)


Bee

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

If you need some helps, just speak out loud :) I don't know how to help anyway.

sugree

[SeanC...@gmail.com]

Hello,

I think you have a really good idea, I would like to join in such an
event.

Are you sure August 16th is enough time to prepare for the event?
thats just a little more than a month and a half. While it can be
done, I know from experience its much better to have the time to plan
and execute something like this properly. Events take huge amounts of
work and unless you can find dedicated people to help then your going
to have a hard time pulling it off.

My Suggestion is,

Don't name a date.

Find other organizers who are fired up to help.

Meet and plan the event giving each person or groups of people roles.

Determine location, presenters, and other details such as food, or
have an idea on where to get it.

Once that is all prepared announce a launch date and spread the word
the best you can.

Good luck!

Sean

On Jun 29, 11:36 pm, Prem Sichanugrist <sikand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> I would like to talk about the next event about Web Applications in  
> Thailand called 'Thailand Next Web Apps 2008,' which will be held on  

> August 16. Current information of the event is athttp://sikachu.com/thailand-next-web-apps/

>
> I have heard that somebody suggest about merging the event to Barcamp  
> 2. I thought about it, and I think that I won't merge the event. The  
> thing is: I don't think my event would stick into barcamp rule, like  
> 100% participations. Also, I want this event to be the opportunity for  
> the new startups, which might not be able to say anything on the  
> barcamp date. If you look at the last barcamp bangkok, then you would  
> know that lots of sessions got dropped because of little vote, which I  
> would give them a chance to speak since this event will be smaller.
>
> However, even I said that I don't want to merge it, I'm still under  
> consideration though. I still got little progress here about my event,  
> doesn't know where to place it yet, doesn't know who's going to talk  
> in my event yet, and also I don't know who would help me as the  
> organizer though .. yes John, i'm looking at your :)
>
> I would like to ask you guys to help me as organizer. I would need  
> lots of help since this event is not well-known as Barcamp so I think  
> it would be hard to fill people in. Also there're lots of things that  
> need to be done. So, if you can give me a hand, I would happy to hear  
> about. :)
>
> I'm working on create the website about this event, which will post  
> the update about this event later. It will be on http://

> nextwebapps.com some day.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Since you need to know all sessions before the event, it might take longer time to have enough sessions filled all slots. Anyway, I still think Aug 16 is possible. Do you have venue yet?

sugree

[proteus guy]

Hi Prem,

    Looks very interesting. I'm curious what exactly do you see as differentiating this from Barcamp? I expect my company, Proteus Technologies, would be interested in participating but need to understand more about what the goals/expectations are of the event. Regardless as to whether this Barcamp related or not, I'm happy to see such things going on in Thailand! :)

  -- Ben

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Aruj]

I think you must describe the detail of the event much more than you
did. I don't know how the event will be, what each participants has to
do, what kind of place that you want, and how can I help you. But I
guess it'll be a BarCamp that participants don't have to prepare the
topics, it's you who have to organize the topic and the instructors.
Am I wrong?

In the email of nextwebapps I have told you what I can help. Call me
if I can do anything for you.

Aruj

On Jun 29, 11:36 pm, Prem Sichanugrist <sikand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
> I would like to talk about the next event about Web Applications in
> Thailand called 'Thailand Next Web Apps 2008,' which will be held on

> August 16. Current information of the event is athttp://sikachu.com/thailand-next-web-apps/

>
> I have heard that somebody suggest about merging the event to Barcamp
> 2. I thought about it, and I think that I won't merge the event. The
> thing is: I don't think my event would stick into barcamp rule, like
> 100% participations. Also, I want this event to be the opportunity for
> the new startups, which might not be able to say anything on the
> barcamp date. If you look at the last barcamp bangkok, then you would
> know that lots of sessions got dropped because of little vote, which I
> would give them a chance to speak since this event will be smaller.
>
> However, even I said that I don't want to merge it, I'm still under
> consideration though. I still got little progress here about my event,
> doesn't know where to place it yet, doesn't know who's going to talk
> in my event yet, and also I don't know who would help me as the
> organizer though .. yes John, i'm looking at your :)
>
> I would like to ask you guys to help me as organizer. I would need
> lots of help since this event is not well-known as Barcamp so I think
> it would be hard to fill people in. Also there're lots of things that
> need to be done. So, if you can give me a hand, I would happy to hear
> about. :)
>
> I'm working on create the website about this event, which will post
> the update about this event later. It will be on http://

> nextwebapps.com some day.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

First of all, i need a unique tag :) #thainextwebapps or #tnwa or any?

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hello guys

Sorry for the late reply (damn late, actually.)

It's now 5 weeks until the event date. I still couldn't find the venue
yet. I'm currently thinking about INET, but I don't know how much does
it cost and also will it be available on that date. Can somebody help
me regarding contact them and finding out how much it cost?

For the tag, let's use #tnwa :) I think it's short and easy to remember.

I think this event is normally just like the barcamp, I do like to
push people to speak up. However, the major difference is it doesn't
have the 'camp' in its name :) .. no no .. I mean there would be a
session that let people show off their stuff, also the time
arrangement would be somewhat flexible than the 'slot' thingie. I
won't do anything much fancy though ..

Each participant will allows to talk on the stage, have an open
discussion. I think the time slot for this event will be both pre-
assigned and on-site assign, or I would stick with pre-assign. It
depends though ..

See, the point of this event is
- I want new startups to be born.
- I want to see new ideas, even it's a semi-clone.
- I want all web developers to get together to share stuff (well .. I
know that TWA also done that .. but I want it in more 'informal' way.)
- I want to spread the word out to the world that Thailand has a good
resource on creating great web applications, i.e. 'we can do this!'

For sponsorship, I currently have only 1 sponsor, which I don't know
how much he would give me (lol ..) I would like to ask for sponsorship
though, mainly for the venue cost actually.

So, I can sum up that I need your help on:

- Helping me contact the venue, or finding me a venue.
- Finding sponsorship or being a sponsor :)
- Spread the word, please ..

I'll try to put up the site this week, with lots of information about
this event on it.

If anybody wants to chat with me about this event, just GTalk me:
sikandsak :)

-- Bee

[Isriya Paireepairit]

> It's now 5 weeks until the event date. I still couldn't find the venue
> yet. I'm currently thinking about INET, but I don't know how much does
> it cost and also will it be available on that date. Can somebody help
> me regarding contact them and finding out how much it cost?

INET is free for community/non-commercial purpose. Anyway, you need to
pay around B500 for maid on sunday to take care of place. Also the
meal cost if you want to provide.

> Each participant will allows to talk on the stage, have an open
> discussion. I think the time slot for this event will be both pre-
> assigned and on-site assign, or I would stick with pre-assign. It
> depends though ..

I think this event is not really Barcamp style. It's not that everyone
coming and present their project. I suggest you need to individually
contact someone you know he is working on a webapp and want him to
talk. Broadcasting an invitation and expect cool guys you don't know
to show up on the day should not work for this case.

You can also allocate the free talk slot for Barcamp style as well,
but not pure free talk.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

On 7 ก.ค. 2551, at 15:22, Isriya Paireepairit wrote:

>
>> It's now 5 weeks until the event date. I still couldn't find the
>> venue
>> yet. I'm currently thinking about INET, but I don't know how much
>> does
>> it cost and also will it be available on that date. Can somebody help
>> me regarding contact them and finding out how much it cost?
>
> INET is free for community/non-commercial purpose. Anyway, you need to
> pay around B500 for maid on sunday to take care of place. Also the
> meal cost if you want to provide.

This is cool :) // How can I make a rsvp then if I want to use this
venue?

>
>
>> Each participant will allows to talk on the stage, have an open
>> discussion. I think the time slot for this event will be both pre-
>> assigned and on-site assign, or I would stick with pre-assign. It
>> depends though ..
>
> I think this event is not really Barcamp style. It's not that everyone
> coming and present their project. I suggest you need to individually
> contact someone you know he is working on a webapp and want him to
> talk. Broadcasting an invitation and expect cool guys you don't know
> to show up on the day should not work for this case.
>
> You can also allocate the free talk slot for Barcamp style as well,
> but not pure free talk.

I'm thinking about invitation, yes. I want to have some main speaker
for this event, i.e. ones that making cool web apps, and I also wants
new cool guy to show up and speak too. So, there would be both fixed
slot and free slot. Thanks for your idea :)

I also would like to hear some suggestion also about how should I
arrange this event. I mean, I want it to be somewhat like FOWA but we
don't have that many web developers here.

New task:
- Writing invitation letter :)
- Writing PR

>
>
> >

[Isriya Paireepairit]

> New task:
> - Writing invitation letter :)
> - Writing PR

Too formal invitation letter is not ideal method as well. For geeks
who working on web 2.0, just personal IM or tweet is enough.

Why don't you list up 'people I want to hear' in this message and I
can help you on contacting (some of) them?

For me, Thai web apps I know and want to know more are:
- Covershare
- Birdnest
- Zickr
- Exteen (they are not niche anymore but always worth listening)
- MyFri3nd (I don't know the correct spelling, sorry)

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Ahh .. agreed with you on that idea :)

Here's the list of website I would like to hear, which I can think of:

Zickr
Exteen
Duocore
Fukduk
iam.in.th
MyFri3nd
Blognone
Gotoknow
longdo (P'Hui)

Here are the ppl:

Sirn (http://www.hitoridake.com/)
pphetra (http://pphetra.blogspot.com/)

I also agree about website on your list too :)

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Don't forget noknok.in.th.

2008/7/7 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hello again,

Just for the follow up on who should I contact for the venue at INET? I just want to make sure that they're available at that date. Also, how many rooms or facilities do they have? Can anybody who attended Drupalcamp explains me for a bit?

Thanks

Bee

[Isriya Paireepairit]

2008/7/8 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

> Hello again,
> Just for the follow up on who should I contact for the venue at INET? I just
> want to make sure that they're available at that date. Also, how many rooms
> or facilities do they have? Can anybody who attended Drupalcamp explains me
> for a bit?

Let's wait sugree for this question.

I want to add
- rssthai
- numerous Blog hosting services (storythai, diaryis, exteen, gotoknow, nation?)
- numerous Digg-like services (zickr, kudd, seedang, siamcollective, ...)
- numerous Internet TV (fukduk, iamthai, ...) note: ask Kla Duocore
for this info
- How about (traditional) TV on web? e.g. Maxxnettv.tv? I think there are many
- GIS service (PointAsia) and any other Google Maps mashup?
- Kapook also provides Facebook and Twitter-like services. Should we
include them?

P.S. imo, Blognone is just web 1.0 news web site. I don't know any
2.0-app features

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

contacting inet. brb

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

inet confirmed and already booked that floor for us.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hi all,

Just for the follow up, thanks Sugree for the venue. I think using INET as a venue would be cool.

Next thing I would ask is about the speaker. I think we already have a list of people who we wants to hear. Can you guys help me to contact them accordingly asking for them to come to the event? I contacted FukDuk and Zickr, one said ok and one was not. So, I think it might be tough for finding a speaker .. i.e. finding the pre-assigned speaker.

I will put the site up asap, too busy now .. hopefully in next 1-2 days.

Next thing would be about the sponsor. I could find only one sponsor .. can somebody help me to find some sponsor? I would need a sponsorship on food and t-shirt, and for some preparation stuff. Since this event is web-related, could I ask Google for the sponsor? Can somebody tell me how to contact them? P'Keng, can u help me? T____T (Also, btw, can Opendream become a sponsor ><?)

I think that's all update I got. I would like to say thank you for you guys in the first place to help figures most of the things out. 

-- Bee

http://nextwebapps.com

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

I will try to contact them. Anyway, we should have a kind of wiki to keep track the status of invitation. :)

Exteen
storythai
Gotoknow
nation

Zickr
kudd
seedang
siamcollective

Duocore
Fukduk
iam.in.th

Blognone
rssthai

MyFri3nd
noknok
jaewjaw

longdo (P'Hui)
pointasia

2008/7/13 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

sugree, nice idea :)

Anyway, i think i should set it up on the domain nextwebapps.com. Unfortunately, I'm currently point the domain to my friend's server, which I don't have control over subdomain and stuff.

So, I think the best way is find a new server for my web, which I think sugree's host would be suitable for this job. So, I would like to ask how much would it be for the smallest hosting at OFH, or can I tie nextwebapps.com to my account first? (Since I don't need so much space for it anyway ..) After I move my host, so I can do something like http://thailand.nextwebapps.com :)

-- Bee

http://nextwebapps.com

2008/7/13 Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>:

[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

from the topics posted in
http://sikachu.com/thailand-next-web-apps/

we might put them to three tracks, providing there are enough sessions
(if not, merged down. for example, merge coding and design to only one).
see below listing for a proposal.

question:
as Prem, the initiator, declared before,
this nextwebapps event gonna be more 'designed' than BarCamp.
a question is, does the organizer like to balance the topics, or just
let everything goes ?
say, extreme case, does it's ok to have 10 Joomla sessions out of 12 ?

----

Three proposed tracks (based on topics on
http://sikachu.com/thailand-next-web-apps/ )
* Business Track (+ Service Introduction)
* Coding Track
* Interface Design / User Experience Track

Business Track + Service Introduction
* Web Application ใหม่ๆ ในประเทศไทย (new webapps in Thailand)
* ธุรกิจการโฆษณาทางเว็บไซต์ในประเทศไทย / SEO (online ads)
* เว็บไซต์ที่มีแนวคิดเดียวกับที่มีในต่างประเทศ (localized-"clones")
* การป้องกันเว็บไซต์จากการโจมตี (website defense measure)
* ความปลอดภัยของข้อมูล (security)
* Hosting ในประเทศไทย (hosting in Thailand)

Coding Track
* แนวทางในการพัฒนา Web Service (web service development)
* การพัฒนาเว็บไซต์ในรูปแบบ Agile (agile development for website)
* เทคนิคในการทดสอบเว็บไซต์ (ex. RSpec) (website testing)
* การประยุกต์ใช้ Cloud Computing (ex. S3, Google App Engine)
* Python Framework (ex. Django)
* PHP Framework (เช่น CakePHP)
* Ruby Framework (เช่น Rails, Merb)
* การใช้งาน JavaScript Framework (ex. jQuery, Prototype.js)
* การใช้งาน CMS ต่างๆ (เช่น Drupal)
* เทคนิคในการพัฒนาโปรแกรมบนเว็บไซต์ (web programming techniques)

Interface Design / User Experience Track
* Web 2.0 คืออะไร (what is Web 2.0?)
* Social Networking ในประเทศไทย (social networking in Thailand)
* Rich Internet Application (AJAX / Flex / Silverlight)
* Usability / Findability บนเว็บไซต์
* Accessibility บนเว็บไซต์
* HTML5 / CSS 2.0
* Web Standard

----

--
http://twitter.com/bact

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Oh, bros. Don't hesitate to ask me. You got it the right stuff. This is what my host expected to be. Just login to your account to start working on it right now.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

I do prefer to see applications more and more. Coding is cool but it must come with real live applications, e.g., the secret code behind blognone.

2008/7/14 Arthit Suriyawongkul <art...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hello,

First of all, thanks Sugree for the hosting! Gosh .. I was เกรงใจ you so much that I couldn't say a word to ask. I'll set the thing up ASAP then :)

For the question that @bact asked, I think the event will be more organized than barcamp, but not so strict. I want to let everything goes, but I might balance the topic only for some extreme case :) (i.e. 10 Drupal session might be merged to use only 3 hrs ..) So that ppl have a chance to talk on more of the stuff. However, they would know beforehand that their topic will be merged since the schedule will be posted on the web before the event date.

I do prefer the application talk, but I also want this event as opportunity for people to share their knowledge at the edge of web applications, i.e. I want web developer & designer geeks to share stuff :)

I like the way that @bact split things up. I'll use that as a guide to spread the sessions out. :)

Also, I can't remember that I have mention it or not, but sessions will be both fixed and open, i.e. some of them will be filled in a calendar, and some will be assigned on the event date (just like barcamp ^^) -- but this can be changed if all session slots are filled :) (which I hope it will be filled, yay !!)

The event day will be running through as:

- Opening sessions

- Sessions that are about Company (so ppl will get to know other company)

- Session about coding, design, and open session (runs parallels)

I still try to figure out how many rooms should I use. All four? Just only 3? I think at least 3 rooms. Can @sugree help me confirm the room size? (How large is the large, medium, and small one?) :)

-- Bee

[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

> I still try to figure out how many rooms should I use. All four? Just only
> 3? I think at least 3 rooms. Can @sugree help me confirm the room size? (How
> large is the large, medium, and small one?) :)

fyi, INET has 4 rooms:

* two small meeting rooms of the same size, with fixed table (10-15 ppl ?)
* one lage meeting room, with fixed table (30-40 ppl ?)
* one large function room (50-70 ppl ?)
(somebody pls confirm the capacity)

the reservation area at front also has some space for
registration/organization things.

[Patipat Susumpow]

FYI,

two small meeting rooms and front have no aircon during the weekend.

FYI FYI,

no parking lot is provided.

[Isriya Paireepairit]

2008/7/13 Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>:

> I will try to contact them. Anyway, we should have a kind of wiki to keep
> track the status of invitation. :)

Feel free to use Blognone wiki if you want. My advise is free wiki
service (PBWiki, SocialText, Wikia) is enough. No need to setup yet
another new wiki engine. It'll be difficult to maintain in long term.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Oh crap ..

Can we pay them to turn on air con? :) well .. i think at least 3 rooms would be sufficient (but .. it's some kind of too small ??)

And for no parking lot: now that's the crappiest thing! How should I deal with that then? Paying Thai-Summit for parking space? ..

How did ppl get to Drupal Camp in the last time?

PS. will be looking at free online wiki :)

-- Bee

[Isriya Paireepairit]

2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

> Oh crap ..
> Can we pay them to turn on air con? :) well .. i think at least 3 rooms
> would be sufficient (but .. it's some kind of too small ??)

Air condition is from central unit (except the biggest room, which has
its own engine). To have air condition on weekend, you need to file
some documents to security/control room in advance.

> And for no parking lot: now that's the crappiest thing! How should I deal
> with that then? Paying Thai-Summit for parking space? ..

It's harder than air condition since the parking use magnetic card
system. Nearly impossible. You can pay individually but the price is
scary as well.

[Patipat Susumpow]

Bee,

Nice to see your event going well!

I've talked to Googler, the question they ask is how this event related to google? Therefore, I'm not quite sure they, google, is interesting to sponsor this such kind of event, including barcamp bangkok 2 and so on, in the future.

btw, for opendream, we can support you partial sponsorship e.g. meal, like DrupalCamp, but we will try to find out other potential sponsors.

hey you should clarify total expected budget.

--keng

2008/7/13 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Patipat Susumpow]

2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

Oh crap ..

Can we pay them to turn on air con? :) well .. i think at least 3 rooms would be sufficient (but .. it's some kind of too small ??)

And for no parking lot: now that's the crappiest thing! How should I deal with that then? Paying Thai-Summit for parking space? ..

it's not a crap, air con are available in those big meeting rooms it should be enough for 100ppl, for paking lot i have no idea, you have to confirm with PIC you're contacting with.
 

How did ppl get to Drupal Camp in the last time?

DrupalCamp is our fault, somes were suffered from expensive parking fee. I don't think INET can provide free parking lot, you should confirm, otherwise, MRT only.
 

[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

parking:
Park at one of the MRT stations and ride.
or park at Family Moo Kra-ta and walk across.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

On 14 ก.ค. 2551, at 12:28, Isriya Paireepairit wrote:

>
> 2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:
>> Oh crap ..
>> Can we pay them to turn on air con? :) well .. i think at least 3
>> rooms
>> would be sufficient (but .. it's some kind of too small ??)
>
> Air condition is from central unit (except the biggest room, which has
> its own engine). To have air condition on weekend, you need to file
> some documents to security/control room in advance.

I think if just filling the form then I would be fine with it, I can
do it when it get close to the event. Will it cost anything for it?

I know that there's a big room, but I also would like to make sure
that there's room for sessions to spread. 2 would be enough, but 3 is
optimal size, so I can spread the sessions :)

>
>
>> And for no parking lot: now that's the crappiest thing! How should
>> I deal
>> with that then? Paying Thai-Summit for parking space? ..
>
> It's harder than air condition since the parking use magnetic card
> system. Nearly impossible. You can pay individually but the price is
> scary as well.

I think I can remember the price, as I went to fix a server there
once .. but I think I got INET to stamped my card? I'm not sure ..

Anyway, @bact said about parking at MRT. I didn't know that Thai-
Summit is near MRT station! If so, then MRT is the ideal solution :)

----

P'Keng

For the question about sponsor, it just that I think this event and
Google is targeting the same field. Google is a huge multi-platform
company, including web. This event is targeting on web development and
web startups. So it just my though that Google would help us and
sponsor this event. Also, it will be my pleasure too if there's a
speaker from Google (or Google Thailand) come and talk about how
Google's doing in Thailand. I would like to hear from them too, since
we use their service everyday. I think I can premier their talk,
really :)

I'll post more detail about the budget soon. :)

-- Bee

[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

> Anyway, @bact said about parking at MRT. I didn't know that Thai-
> Summit is near MRT station! If so, then MRT is the ideal solution :)

let say it's in a walking distance.

[Isriya Paireepairit]

>> Air condition is from central unit (except the biggest room, which has
>> its own engine). To have air condition on weekend, you need to file
>> some documents to security/control room in advance.
>
> I think if just filling the form then I would be fine with it, I can
> do it when it get close to the event. Will it cost anything for it?

I think you need to do that in the name of INET.

>>> And for no parking lot: now that's the crappiest thing! How should
>>> I deal
>>> with that then? Paying Thai-Summit for parking space? ..
>>
>> It's harder than air condition since the parking use magnetic card
>> system. Nearly impossible. You can pay individually but the price is
>> scary as well.
>
> I think I can remember the price, as I went to fix a server there
> once .. but I think I got INET to stamped my card? I'm not sure ..

That means INET pays for you since you're INET customer.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

>>> Air condition is from central unit (except the biggest room, which
>>> has
>>> its own engine). To have air condition on weekend, you need to file
>>> some documents to security/control room in advance.
>>
>> I think if just filling the form then I would be fine with it, I can
>> do it when it get close to the event. Will it cost anything for it?
>
> I think you need to do that in the name of INET.

Ahh .. so who would be the person that I need to contact? Can you help
me out? T____T

[Isriya Paireepairit]

I will try to find one.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hi again,

I'm setting up a new wiki at http://nextwebapps.pbwiki.com. I already
sent invites to mk, sugree and kengggg. Hope you guys can help me
filling things up :)

Still waiting for information about the air-con. :)

Also, since we have a wiki now, I would like to do a logo contest! The
idea of logo is open, and I think I would open it to the public :)

See u on the wiki

-- Bee

[Prem Sichanugrist]

FYI, I have annouce Logo Contest at

http://nextwebapps.pbwiki.com/Logo+Contest

How should I spread the word? Can anybody help me? :P

-- Bee

On 14 ก.ค. 2551, at 13:06, Isriya Paireepairit wrote:

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Oh. It might be too late for logo contest. Only one month left. I recommend to ask @mameou :P

2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Can you send that page to her? I'm not so close to her :)

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

just to update: @mameou will be available after august 2 because of mid-term exam.

2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hello guys!

Thanks for your participation! Just want to check and follow up on something.

First, about the air-conditioned in the building. @markpeak, did you find a right guy who I can talk to about this issue yet? I'm just curious ..

Next thing, I'm currently setting the budget around 40k, which we should try to find some sponsor to satisfy them: 10k for t-shirt, 15k for food, 5k for supplies and 10k for anything that beyond expectation (video taping the whole day? i want some screen cast!). I'm still thinking on asking the sponsor for the thing or ask them as the money. Can anybody help me to figure out which way I should do it, or help me finding the sponsor!

Also, I'm currently confuse wether I want the event to run 2 rooms on the main show, or just one. There's somebody said that they don't want to decide which one they should go, but I don't want to limit only some ppl to have a chance to speak! So, that's why I was come up with the idea of recording a presentation, then we can share it to the whole world later on the web. How would you think?

For the last thing, I'll want to inform you guys that if there's enough ppl sign up to talk for the whole day, i.e. 2/3 rooms are already filled with web topics, then there's not gonna be free-topic on that date anymore. I hope I can find that many speaker though ..

Will try to put up the site this weekend :)

Have a good weekend :)

-- Bee

[tonsai...@googlemail.com]

maybe on the longrun, it would be a cool idea to build up a database
of potential sponsors, cause some events got too many sponsors, other
similar events have problem to find sponsors.
just a thought (that help not too much right now :)

> > 2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sikand...@gmail.com>:

> > Can you send that page to her? I'm not so close to her :)
>
> > On 14 ก.ค. 2551, at 20:37, Sugree Phatanapherom wrote:
>
> >> Oh. It might be too late for logo contest. Only one month left. I  
> >> recommend to ask @mameou :P
>

> >> 2008/7/14 Prem Sichanugrist <sikand...@gmail.com>:

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

don't waste your time for a/c. it's not necessary. site is much more important.

2008/7/17 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Patipat Susumpow]

INET provide the air con for those 2 halls, i guess. but from drupal camp earlier, it was little bit warm in the front and those small rooms. i guess it's not a big issue.

--keng

2008/7/17 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Ok so I won't worry about the air-conditioned anymore.

I'm currently working on it T_____T" Seems like Barcampbangkok 2 site is up even the event is after my event .. poor me now

-- Bee

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

can i help? up a site is not so hard. it just needs concentration on content only. draft thing and let other edit later. what we want the most is registration form.

2008/7/18 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Sure you'll be able to help me :) .. but I'm currently designing it. I'm currently free now and I'm working on it. Will ask you guy to help it soon

However, can anybody confirm my budget on the page http://nextwebapps.pbwiki.com/Budget%20and%20Sponsorship wether it's appropriate? I think I won't do a buffet, stick with the boxed thingie so it will be easy and not cost so much money :)

-- Bee

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

like i mentioned before, don't waste time in graphics design. you can do it later. now we need content :) that budget is ok.

[Patipat Susumpow]

Bee,

Is it too expensive for suppliers? it should be 600baht? we should use other kind of cup for environmental purpose :-P.

Opendream can support lunch box, chester grilled, huh?~, like Drupal camp, so don't worry about hungry zombie during the event.

--keng

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

i can survive with just caffeine + water

[Patipat Susumpow]

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com> wrote:

i can survive with just caffeine + water

plus internet+twitter
 

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

twitter is a part of my life. you can't torn us apart.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

For supplies, I'm just estimate it though ... we might have to by anything else :)

For the cup, I'm thinking about plastic. But is there an environmental-friendly on that one? Maybe a glass instead? I'm thinking about it but still concern about cleaning stuff up. I'm also thinking about 'bring your own mug', but cleaning is also a concern.

I'm thinking about 3-in-one coffee/tea + sugar and hot water in the morning, but I don't know that I should provide it or not. How do you guys think?

Also, I'm currently thinking about Chester-grill and Oishi Bento .. but the price is two times extra. So, I'll let Opendream decide which one you prefer, since you're going to sponsor it (thanks! ) :)

-- Bee

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

we can ask them to bring their own cup :P

[Patipat Susumpow]

I have no cup, sugree what cup do you have?

[Isriya Paireepairit]

2008/7/17 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

> Hello guys!
> Thanks for your participation! Just want to check and follow up on
> something.
> First, about the air-conditioned in the building. @markpeak, did you find a
> right guy who I can talk to about this issue yet? I'm just curious ..

I just ask K.Kan for this. Waiting for his reply.

> Next thing, I'm currently setting the budget around 40k, which we should try
> to find some sponsor to satisfy them: 10k for t-shirt, 15k for food, 5k for
> supplies and 10k for anything that beyond expectation (video taping the

I think you may miss the point. This kind of event is volunteer-ing.

- T-shirt is not necessary thing and in consequence, people can 'buy'
it (as same as when you go to concert).
- Food is quite the same thing. We spare our money for our lunch
everyday, why not this day as well? For free event, participants can
find food by their own in nearby area.

My point is, providing these things with no cost is a plus but nor
essential. Find the money first then decide which to spend later. The
issue you should concentrate is the program and content.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Thanks for your quick reply :)

Anyway, I'm still concern with the program day much more than food / t-shirt though. Right now I have Opendream going to sponsor lunch for us, which would be a plus. Also, for T-Shirt, I didn't think either that I want to do it. But if I can find a sponsor for it (such as Codegent), then I'll do it.

I still don't get any answer about bring your own cup thing. How should I deal with cleaning the cup after they're done with it. It's still not simple as using plastic cup :)

So, right now we have Duocore.tv and Noknok. Who else confirmed?


-- Bee

[Patipat Susumpow]

An environmental-friendly cup is just a suggestion. Im thinking that we can make barcamp Bangkok 2 as a greener barcamp :-P.

Paper cup is just fine anyway.

--keng

Sent from my iPhone

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

my cup is A :P

[Wiennat Mongkulmann]

Another idea. Everyone bring their own mug. Well, or cup if you prefer that term. And then we should show each other the mug. :)

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

i like this idea. show your unique mug or group similar mug together.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hey guys,

Just for the follow up today. I got a person who I need to contact about the air-con, thanks so much p'mark. BTW, is that person working at INET, not at Thai Summit building right?

I just got supported on soft drink and supplies from Hunt / Zickr. That's wonderful! I think right now I'll try to confirm with Codegent about sponsor. I'm currently going to ask Codegent to make a t-shirt for us, since Luke was dealing with the T-Shirt for Barcamp Bangkok #1 anyway. So, right now I just looking for a sponsor that will give us support on printed materials, i.e. sign, poster, name tag ..

I'm currently set a minimum price for sponsor at 3k, but then I want to raise about 5k for the whole thing. I just hope that I'll be able to get it ..

Thanks for your help! 

-- Bee

[Isriya Paireepairit]

2008/7/19 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

> Hey guys,
> Just for the follow up today. I got a person who I need to contact about the
> air-con, thanks so much p'mark. BTW, is that person working at INET, not at
> Thai Summit building right?

Yes.

[Patipat Susumpow]

How many attendee are you expecting?

2008/7/20 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

I think I'm expecting around 50 people :)

-- Bee

[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

be realistic.
i think 50 is lower than recent drupalcamp (which arguably has
narrower audience group, compare to 'next webapp').

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[Prem Sichanugrist]

I doubt it. I'll be able to see the trend anyway after the
registration got open :)

--Bee

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Follow up guys :D

- I opened up the registration yesterday, and now the registant number
is running up to 130 people! I didn't know there would be this many
web-developer in Thailand. However, will this event be a hit or miss,
we'll see later :)

- For the sponsor, some of them canceled and some of them changed
their mind. So now we're ended up with this (for now)
- Sanook 10,000 + 100 T-Shirt (unconfirmed)
- Codegent 10,000
- Opendream Lunchboxes!
- Duocore.tv 2,000

There're not so many sponsor, but I hope that number is sufficient.
I'm expecting a sponsor who can provide us 2 video recorders though :)
anyone?

- For the speakers, right now we have:
[business] noknok.in.th duocore.tv fwdder
[programming] Rails+Flex Rails Merb

I'm still looking for more speaker, in lots of topic. Maybe after the
site is stable then I'll work out on finding decent speakers. :)

Thanks for your help guys, this event won't happen if there aren't
your help.


-- Bee

On 20 ก.ค. 2551, at 11:15, Arthit Suriyawongkul wrote:

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

actually, sanook confirmed both 10k and tshirt. we should increase tshirts from 100 to 200? will you close registration? we have time but hurry up. i will ask kapook tonight.

2008/7/24 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

[Patipat Susumpow]

200? I don't think INET cannot support those 200 people at a time.

2008/7/24 Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>:

[Prem Sichanugrist]

i'll close the registration at 155 people, but I don't expect all of them to show up

could you ask them for 150 then ? :)

I'll put up the method where they can set their shirt size later :)

-- Bee

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Guys,

I need to go and look at the venue. Can somebody help me to contact the right guy? I'm currently thinking about this week, but will they open on sat/sunday? :)

I've added everybody to the @nextwebapps.com email, also a spreadsheet for managing speaker and schedule. Please help me to fill those up :)

-- Bee

On 24 ก.ค. 2551, at 23:26, Patipat Susumpow wrote:

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

contact @superconductor directly.

2008/7/28 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>

[Patipat Susumpow]

you need to add him first. he is protected.

2008/7/28 Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>

[Prem Sichanugrist]

i'm following him :)

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Now i'm in crazy mode.

I'm currently have 4 slots available. Need to find somebody who's a cool programmer/designer to talk in those slots. Please help me.

I'm currently finding the price for the name tag. Yes, I'm doing the extra ordinary name tag thing. It just because I love to collect the name tag, and I think people should be happy with it too. I'll try to get the price back asap and then I'll try to get a sponsorship for it. Hope @dekads will be able to sponsor us if it's not > 5,000 THB :)

Also, I need to go to see the venue this week. I think I'll ask my office for a day off, maybe Friday. We'll see :) But I also forget about the air-con thingie. I'll try to contact that guy soon.

Thanks for your help :)

-- Bee

On 28 ก.ค. 2551, at 14:29, Patipat Susumpow wrote:

[Patipat Susumpow]

how many slot do you plan for this event?

2008/7/28 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>

[Prem Sichanugrist]

I've share the document for you guys on @nextwebapps.com google mail. P'keng, did you get my invitation email?

-- Bee

[Patipat Susumpow]

oh, ok, got your invitation.

too many events, sorry.

--keng

2008/7/28 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>

[Prem Sichanugrist]

blame Mozilla? :P

I didn't expect the event to be this close either :P

-- Bee

[Isriya Paireepairit]

2008/7/27 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>:

> Guys,
> I need to go and look at the venue. Can somebody help me to contact the
> right guy? I'm currently thinking about this week, but will they open on
> sat/sunday? :)
> I've added everybody to the @nextwebapps.com email, also a spreadsheet for
> managing speaker and schedule. Please help me to fill those up :)
>
> -- Bee

No one work on the IT floor on week end. I strongly recommend you to
go on weekday.

Please contact K.Kan and you should get almost everything.

[Patipat Susumpow]

don't forget to put INET on the sponsor list.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Guys,

I have looked at the venue. However, I don't really know how much I can customize on the main hall and the smaller room. Can I rearrange the table in the smaller room? Also, can I set up the registration table in the main hall? And where should it be?

Help me T___T''

-- Bee

[Patipat Susumpow]

let me explain what was done with drupal camp,

front - small registration table besides information desk, http://www.flickr.com/photos/kengz/2522774381/in/set-72157605254326704/
main hall - U shape tables, http://www.flickr.com/photos/kengz/2522822241/in/set-72157605254326704/
board room - can't change anything, i guess, http://www.flickr.com/photos/kengz/2523633052/in/set-72157605254326704/
small rooms - no change.

-- keng.

2008/8/3 Prem Sichanugrist <sika...@gmail.com>

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hello guys,

Sorry that I open a new thread, but want to separate those stuff apart
from the last thread. I just want to ask about a place where we can
have dinner after the event. I don't know a good place near that Thai
Summit building, so I would like to open it as free discussion ..
Also, if we have some money left over from the sponsor, we would like
to pay for this too (but .. I don't think we will have more than 1k
left .. so be warned :))

BTW, i don't drink .. so maybe avoid pub/bar? :P ..

I would suggest Family Pork BBQ, but then what do u guys think?

-- Bee

[Wiennat Mongkulmann]

Count me in. Pork BBQ is ok

[JFXBerns]

We went to Family Moo Ga Ta after DrupalCamp. It's great! Good food,
cheap. Easy to talk.