AIBEA TO MR D S MURTHY

[MOHAN P]

[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Mr.CHV has every right to take legal action against Mr.Murthy. One can question Unions and leaders for delay in resolving issues but personal attacks, accusations without evidence should not be made. If what mr.CHV disclosed is true then Mr.Murthy will face consequences.

But there are other 750000 pensioners who are silently searching for answers to questions 1. Why there is delay in resolving issues like Updation, DA merger. Pension on special allowance etc for the last 25 years. IBA/Banks are not communicating with retirees. While CHV has the constitutional right to take action against Mr.Murthy, it would have been fair if CHV had spared a few words to address these questions in the letter.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 2:49 PM MOHAN P <moha...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Ramani Konnayar]

These questions do have answers but these won't be palatable to the pensioners, to say the least. Hence, they are not being answered under the hope that the pensioners will soon get too tired to pursue the issues and reconcile to their fate besides learning to keep content with what they get. 

That IBA is inclined to grant any new benefit to Pensioners ONLY IF IT IS COST NEUTRAL is enough indication for the shape of things to come. Unless there is a political intervention to do some justice to Pensioners, the situation will not change.

K N Ramani 

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[Saibabu Madiraju]

It is misfortune that some ppl are supporting chv, only God need to give justice to chv, the sooner the better. As reg murthy garu, nothing happens, bcz our courts took 20 years for genuine sr citizens issue, nothing will happen to murthy garu, since he did it for others snd God knows better that than others. 

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[Vvns Varaprasadrao]

Dear Somashekara,

As rightly pointed out by you, the GS of AIBEA  is supposed to clarify  on his lapses to  Sri D S Murthy  and also to all the retirees before proceeding for legal action, if any.

Regards.

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[Saibabu Madiraju]

Is it not right for retirees to support Mr murthy who was so far praised by many for his efforts. 

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

The agrived retirees have right to question the UFBU leaders for not getting pensioner's issues resolved in time bound manner.
At the same time nobody has right to make personal and baseless allegations and character assassination of any leadership.
It is unfortunate that no retirees associations have succeeded in achieving our pending issues resolved .Shri D .S.Murthy is senior and matured person who is relentlessly echoing our plight is requested to avoid controversial writing against anybody and close the issue amicably with CHV with mutual respect and understanding.

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

What is the issue between Shri D.S . Murthy and CHV the general secretary of AIBEA.
CHV claims that Sri Murthy has defamed him by making false allegations which are baseless and provocative and involved in corrupt practices.
This is the bone of contention.
Is it necessary and right to make and pricpitate the matter?
A I B EA is the chief architect of pension scheme and succeeded in achieving it against the stiff opposition from all the constituents of UFBU.To day we are getting some pension for managing the day to needs.
No doubt we need updation and increase in pension.
This is the responsibility of UFBU to successfully achieve pension updation.
Why we should blame and make baseless allegations and indulge in charector assassination of AIBEA leaders.
Will it resolve our pending issues?
Therefore we have to be prudent in our communications any totally avoid such writings.
The big all India retirees associations also failed to convince the UFBU to successfully achieve pension updation.
As individuals what we can do?
As on today we are getting pension+ ex-gratia through bipartite negotiations between IBA and UFBU.
We have to request and pursue the pending issues through UFBU only.
The issues are very important.But writing against anybody will not help the retirees to achieve pension updation.
Therefore we have to pursue through all available Avenues with sofistication and be polite and dignified in our approach.
I am sure Shri D S.Murthy beeing learned and metured will   take care and resolve the issue With CHV in amicable manner as it deserves with out further pricpitation.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Mr.Satyanarayana whatever views Sri D S murthy had expressed, 90% of pensioners have also expressed such opinion all over the social media. But the language Sri D S Murthy had expressed is objectionable.

1. General opinion is UFBU is in collusion with IBA to deny benefits to retirees.

     UFBU silence on iBA actions support this opinion.

      While signing the EX gratia agreement it was agreed that the same would be reviewed every year starting from April 24. Few pensioners were happy that if  Ex gratia reviewed some financial benefit would be available. But IBA letter to CLC it is evident that Ex gratia was reviewed in consultation with UFBU which means UFBU agreed with IBA that no improvement is needed in Ex gratia.

 UFBU leaders with 6 decades of experience are well aware of legal position that mere pending of a case does not in any way bar negotiations between IBA and UFBU to discuss updation unless there is a stay from any court. But UFBU leaders  agreed with the IBA claim of sub judice without any protest.

There are small committee resolutions that permit updation as per RBI pension structure.

But IBA filed an affidavit before SC claiming that there is no provision in Pension regulation.

Why is UFBU  not protesting this even after RBI pensioners got updation twice although their pension regulations do not have provision for Updation.

UFBU blocking Updation and other benefits

On 08.03.2024 IBA and UFBU signed minutes agreeing to amend pension regulations to make provision for Updation in every settlement, merger of DA etc. But though 18 months have passed, UFBU is not taking any action to implement resolutions.

Though IBA is using one pending case in SC as an excuse to delay discussions on updation, UFBU itself is filing another case intentionally to further stall the discussions.

Often claiming fund shortage without disclosing cost.

Though the cost is a few hundred rupees per pensioner not taking up merger of DA issue for last two decades. Signing Special allowance settlement making pensioners lose a few lakhs of Rupees during their lifetime.

Majority of pensioners are expressing their resentment against UFBU on above issues.

I expected C H V would offer some explanation on these issues in his notice to CHV.

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On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:58 AM JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:

While there is no information of  Sri.D S Murthy responding to Mr.C H Vs notice. two persons

Sri.kamalesh Trivedi and Sri. C N Venugopalan have uploaded their response to C H Vs notice defending Sri.D S murthy and refuting all charges of C H V.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

While there is no information of  Sri.D S Murthy responding to Mr.C H Vs notice. two persons

Sri.kamalesh Trivedi and Sri. C N Venugopalan have uploaded their response to C H Vs notice defending Sri.D S murthy and refuting all charges of C H V.

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[Parvatam Veera Bhadra Swamy]

Shri Satyanarayana sir,

The views expressed by you is really touched my heart and we can resolve our issues through AIBEA only as it is powerful organisation among 9 UFBU.

Therefore it's better to resolve the issue between DS Murthy and CHV amicably ASAP as our issues are to be taken care of by them sympathetically as we were also members and active participants of this mighty organisation. 

Thanks and regards 

PVB SWAMY 

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