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Subject: Re: Android Developers Can't Sell Apps in Some Countries?
From: Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>
To: bangkok-space@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jan <lopsta.ecomme...@googlemail.com>
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I will meet the Admob guy today.
sugree
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jan Jones <jan.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting article on this subject:
>
> http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/
>
> Jan
>
> On 28 Jun 2010, at 09:44, Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My guess is that they have some hopes in advertising model. Let us see
> something changes after Google acquired Admob. FYI, Admob staff will be h=
ere
> in Bangkok this week. I feel they are starting the strike back.
>
> sugree
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kirit S=E6lensminde < <ki...@felspar.com=
>
> ki...@felspar.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> <http://www.cyrket.com/>http://www.cyrket.com/ is a good place to start
>> to look at the numbers. Last
>> time I went through them it was pretty clear that most people were not
>> buying
>> Android apps. The lack of countries where you can actually do so is
>> probably a
>> contributing factor, but I'm sure that the differences in how the market
>> and
>> appstore work also contributes.
>>
>>
>> We have the ability to charge for our android apps, but I can't see us
>> doing
>> so. If you want to monetize on Android you need to be looking at ways
>> other
>> than selling apps.
>>
>> Apple have the ability to charge in all markets -- I can buy ipad apps
>> from
>> them in Thailand even though iTunes isn't in Thailand. Google aren't
>> anywhere
>> near that sort of penetration for paid apps.
>>
>> I can't really see the petition working -- Google are playing a very
>> peculiar
>> game with market and it isn't at all clear what their real strategy is.
>> Why is
>> there no web search? Why can't you buy apps in any country that checkout
>> works
>> in rather than just those where they have full banking integration?
>> Talking to
>> Google people when I was over at their San Francisco office didn't shed
>> any
>> light on it -- and it wasn't one of those "we know but can't say" things
>> either, they seemed genuinely baffled too, and that included the Android
>> dev
>> relations developers. It's just weird.
>>
>>
>> K
>>
>> On Sunday 27 Jun 2010 09:11:16 Jan wrote:
>> > i'm under the impression that there is little acceptance to pay for
>> > android apps.
>> > maybe couse of the opensource spirit of the user. but i might be
>> > wrong, i have no numbers to back that up.
>> >
>> > On Jun 27, 1:35 am, Adam Nyb=E4ck <a...@anyro.se> wrote:
>> > > Yep. It's been like that for a long time. Only 13 countries so far.
>> They
>> > > say they work hard to add more countries but I'm not sure about that=
.
>> > >
>> > > <http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=3Den&answer=3D14=
3779>
>> http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=3Den&answer=3D143779
>> > >
>> > > Some Swedish people started a petition about this a month ago. Pleas=
e
>> > > sign and spread the word...
>> > >
>> > > <http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/androidmarket>
>> http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/androidmarket
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Adam
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Keith Bennett
>> <keithrbenn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > > All -
>> > > >
>> > > > I just read this article, and below it in the comments is a
>> discussion
>> > > > of
>> > > >
>> > > > developers in some countries not being permitted to sell their
>> Android
>> apps:
>> > > ><http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/06/23/Derek-James-Poly=
clef>
>> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/06/23/Derek-James-Polyclef
>> > > >
>> > > > I had no idea this was happening. Do you guys know anything about
>> > > > this?
>> > > >
>> > > > - Keith
>>
>
>
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I will meet the Admob guy today.<br><br>sugree<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a =
href=3D"mailto:jan.jo...@gmail.com">jan.jo...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor=3D"#=
FFFFFF"><div>Interesting article on this subject:</div><div><br></div><div>=
<a href=3D"http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android=
-market/" target=3D"_blank">http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanageme=
nt-of-the-android-market/</a><br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>Jan</font></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h=
5"><div><br>On 28 Jun 2010, at 09:44, Sugree Phatanapherom <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:sug...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sug...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<b=
r><br>
</div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>My guess is that they have =
some hopes in advertising model. Let us see something changes after Google =
acquired Admob. FYI, Admob staff will be here in Bangkok this week. I feel =
they are starting the strike back.<br>
<br>sugree<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kirit S=E6l=
ensminde <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:ki...@felspar.com" target=
=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"mailto:ki...@felspar.com" target=3D"_blank">kiri=
t...@felspar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.cyrket.com/" target=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"http://=
www.cyrket.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.cyrket.com/</a> is a good pla=
ce to start to look at the numbers. Last<br>
time I went through them it was pretty clear that most people were not buyi=
ng<br>
Android apps. The lack of countries where you can actually do so is probabl=
y a<br>
contributing factor, but I'm sure that the differences in how the marke=
t and<br>
appstore work also contributes.<br>
<br>
<br>
We have the ability to charge for our android apps, but I can't see us =
doing<br>
so. If you want to monetize on Android you need to be looking at ways other=
<br>
than selling apps.<br>
<br>
Apple have the ability to charge in all markets -- I can buy ipad apps from=
<br>
them in Thailand even though iTunes isn't in Thailand. Google aren'=
t anywhere<br>
near that sort of penetration for paid apps.<br>
<br>
I can't really see the petition working -- Google are playing a very pe=
culiar<br>
game with market and it isn't at all clear what their real strategy is.=
Why is<br>
there no web search? Why can't you buy apps in any country that checkou=
t works<br>
in rather than just those where they have full banking integration? Talking=
to<br>
Google people when I was over at their San Francisco office didn't shed=
any<br>
light on it -- and it wasn't one of those "we know but can't s=
ay" things<br>
either, they seemed genuinely baffled too, and that included the Android de=
v<br>
relations developers. It's just weird.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
K<br>
</font><div><div></div><div><br>
On Sunday 27 Jun 2010 09:11:16 Jan wrote:<br>
> i'm under the impression that there is little acceptance to pay fo=
r<br>
> android apps.<br>
> maybe couse of the opensource spirit of the user. but i might be<br>
> wrong, i have no numbers to back that up.<br>
><br>
> On Jun 27, 1:35 am, Adam Nyb=E4ck <<a href=3D"mailto:a...@anyro.se"=
target=3D"_blank">a...@anyro.se</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Yep. It's been like that for a long time. Only 13 countries s=
o far. They<br>
> > say they work hard to add more countries but I'm not sure abo=
ut that.<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href=3D"http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=3De=
n&answer=3D143779" target=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"http://market.andro=
id.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=3Den&answer=3D143779" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=3Den&answer=3D14377=
9</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Some Swedish people started a petition about this a month ago. Pl=
ease<br>
> > sign and spread the word...<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href=3D"http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/androidmarket" t=
arget=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/andro=
idmarket" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/androidma=
rket</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Adam<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Keith Bennett<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:keithrbenn...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">keithrbenn=
....@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> > > All -<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I just read this article, and below it in the comments is a =
discussion<br>
> > > of<br>
> > ><br>
> > > developers in some countries not being permitted to sell the=
ir Android<br>
apps:<br>
> > ><a href=3D"http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/06/23/=
Derek-James-Polyclef" target=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"http://www.tbray.org=
/ongoing/When/201x/2010/06/23/Derek-James-Polyclef" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/06/23/Derek-James-Polyclef</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > I had no idea this was happening. =A0Do you guys know anythi=
ng about<br>
> > > this?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > - Keith<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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