I'm coming to bangkok from china for christmas to see my family and wanted to know if you guys have a physical space, i'm currently involved in the Shanghai Hackerspace (http://xinchejian.com) where our strengths are in hardware hacking with a sprinkling of software dust. The projects i'm involved with are Interactive tree's/plants, Arduino and Roboracing, i'd be happy to do a presentation or just come down and hack with you all. we're big on building up relationships with hackerspaces around the world.
The original bangspace was in a floor above my company's old office building. We have moved and, while we still have a space available, bangspace never started back up afterwards unfortunately. We learned a lot from the first effort trying to do it on the cheap. I think what's fundamentally preventing us from really having an operational hackerspace here is funding. Hopefully that might change in 2012. We'll see.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:29 PM, nihaopaul <p...@chaos-studio.com> wrote: > Hello to hackers in Bangkok,
> I'm coming to bangkok from china for christmas to see my family and > wanted to know if you guys have a physical space, i'm currently > involved in the Shanghai Hackerspace (http://xinchejian.com) where our > strengths are in hardware hacking with a sprinkling of software dust. > The projects i'm involved with are Interactive tree's/plants, Arduino > and Roboracing, i'd be happy to do a presentation or just come down > and hack with you all. we're big on building up relationships with > hackerspaces around the world.
if you're around for christmas be cool to meet up with some people from bangspace, we've almost finished the 1 year test with only 3 months to go, it's going to be an exciting 3 months with a membership drive and a self reliance movement (just got announced today with positive responses so far), the hackerspace really does make a positive difference in peoples lives in shanghai
> The original bangspace was in a floor above my company's old office > building. We have moved and, while we still have a space available, > bangspace never started back up afterwards unfortunately. We learned a > lot from the first effort trying to do it on the cheap. I think what's > fundamentally preventing us from really having an operational > hackerspace here is funding. Hopefully that might change in 2012. We'll > see.
> -- Ben
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:29 PM, nihaopaul <p...@chaos-studio.com > <mailto:p...@chaos-studio.com>> wrote:
> Hello to hackers in Bangkok,
> I'm coming to bangkok from china for christmas to see my family and > wanted to know if you guys have a physical space, i'm currently > involved in the Shanghai Hackerspace (http://xinchejian.com) where our > strengths are in hardware hacking with a sprinkling of software dust. > The projects i'm involved with are Interactive tree's/plants, Arduino > and Roboracing, i'd be happy to do a presentation or just come down > and hack with you all. we're big on building up relationships with > hackerspaces around the world.
Definitely be interested in meeting up. I have a staff wedding on the 24th so other than right around there should be in town. Post here when your schedule firms up.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Paul Adams <p...@chaos-studio.com> wrote: > if you're around for christmas be cool to meet up with some people from > bangspace, we've almost finished the 1 year test with only 3 months to go, > it's going to be an exciting 3 months with a membership drive and a self > reliance movement (just got announced today with positive responses so > far), the hackerspace really does make a positive difference in peoples > lives in shanghai
> On 12/5/11 4:38 PM, Benjamin Scherrey wrote:
>> Hey Paul,
>> The original bangspace was in a floor above my company's old office >> building. We have moved and, while we still have a space available, >> bangspace never started back up afterwards unfortunately. We learned a >> lot from the first effort trying to do it on the cheap. I think what's >> fundamentally preventing us from really having an operational >> hackerspace here is funding. Hopefully that might change in 2012. We'll >> see.
>> -- Ben
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:29 PM, nihaopaul <p...@chaos-studio.com >> <mailto:p...@chaos-studio.com>**> wrote:
>> Hello to hackers in Bangkok,
>> I'm coming to bangkok from china for christmas to see my family and >> wanted to know if you guys have a physical space, i'm currently >> involved in the Shanghai Hackerspace (http://xinchejian.com) where our >> strengths are in hardware hacking with a sprinkling of software dust. >> The projects i'm involved with are Interactive tree's/plants, Arduino >> and Roboracing, i'd be happy to do a presentation or just come down >> and hack with you all. we're big on building up relationships with >> hackerspaces around the world.
I'm in town as well, (I hail from AceMonsterToys in Oakland, CA). I would be more than happy to support bangspace and get it off the ground. Is there any financial estimate/plan for bangspace? Most don't realize that hackerspaces are actually running on money and donations are critical. AMT has finally gotten to self-sufficiency (we are actually in the black now :)) and I recall the past year where we tried to increase membership and community awareness; it has not been quick, but it worked and we hope to grow even bigger in the coming year.
Also, any meetings in the works anytime soon? I am around next week, but go home for Christmas afterwards. I come to bkk about two months per year and would be fun to play around with stuff while here.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Benjamin Scherrey <proteus...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Paul,
> The original bangspace was in a floor above my company's old office > building. We have moved and, while we still have a space available, > bangspace never started back up afterwards unfortunately. We learned a lot > from the first effort trying to do it on the cheap. I think what's > fundamentally preventing us from really having an operational hackerspace > here is funding. Hopefully that might change in 2012. We'll see.
> -- Ben
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:29 PM, nihaopaul <p...@chaos-studio.com> wrote:
>> Hello to hackers in Bangkok,
>> I'm coming to bangkok from china for christmas to see my family and >> wanted to know if you guys have a physical space, i'm currently >> involved in the Shanghai Hackerspace (http://xinchejian.com) where our >> strengths are in hardware hacking with a sprinkling of software dust. >> The projects i'm involved with are Interactive tree's/plants, Arduino >> and Roboracing, i'd be happy to do a presentation or just come down >> and hack with you all. we're big on building up relationships with >> hackerspaces around the world.
We have mounted several attempts to get a permanent location set up for Hackerspace Bangkok, but the the issue has come down to finding a good space, in a convenient location and then getting the funding together to put it all together.
The problem seems to be that there is nobody driving this project now. We get close to something, then people get burnt out or we can't get the cash required, people drop off--and then a few months later it starts from scratch again.
I think we know the parameters that will work, we just need somebody to stay on the project and see it to completion. Perhaps if we had people pledge money and knew it was there we could get the space set up.
I would be willing to pledge some cash. Who else would as well?
We have mounted several attempts to get a permanent location set up for Hackerspace Bangkok, but the the issue has come down to finding a good space, in a convenient location and then getting the funding together to put it all together.
The problem seems to be that there is nobody driving this project now. We get close to something, then people get burnt out or we can't get the cash required, people drop off--and then a few months later it starts from scratch again.
I think we know the parameters that will work, we just need somebody to stay on the project and see it to completion. Perhaps if we had people pledge money and knew it was there we could get the space set up.
I would be willing to pledge some cash. Who else would as well?
Nobody seems to be doing hardware in Bangkok anyway so for meeting up and hacking into your keyboard you can also go to public places, which is happening every monday at 3rd place Thonglor. http://www.thirdplacebangkok.com
If you want more events you can always start one on meetup.com, that website works very well and events are well visited (depending on the topic of course).
On 6 December 2011 16:12, JFXBerns <jfxbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have mounted several attempts to get a permanent location set up > for Hackerspace Bangkok, but the the issue has come down to finding a > good space, in a convenient location and then getting the funding > together to put it all together.
> The problem seems to be that there is nobody driving this project > now. We get close to something, then people get burnt out or we can't > get the cash required, people drop off--and then a few months later it > starts from scratch again.
> I think we know the parameters that will work, we just need somebody > to stay on the project and see it to completion. Perhaps if we had > people pledge money and knew it was there we could get the space set > up.
> I would be willing to pledge some cash. Who else would as well?
Like I said, I would be glad to contribute cash or any other help, as long as we have a direction and achievable goals. Unfortunately I cannot stay in BKK for very long (though I am trying to be here more, I go home on dec 18) so we would need some local leadership that can act on the groups' behalf. I will also say, that if you need/want more gadgets to hack on, most makerspaces do very well with makerbots and laser cutters (actually the laser cutter we got from china for AMT has been a huge success and has attracted membership quite a bit). I would also be happy to contribute to equipment or send stuff from cali if needed. Raspberry pi's anyone?
I'm not very familiar with rules and regulations around here nor do I have much of a grasp of the thai language, so the help I can offer is mostly monetary and to act as "peanut gallery"/moral support :)
I would think with the few million people living in BKK a hackerspace is well due :) and I applaud the efforts so far!
On Tuesday, December 6, 2011, JFXBerns <jfxbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > We have mounted several attempts to get a permanent location set up > for Hackerspace Bangkok, but the the issue has come down to finding a > good space, in a convenient location and then getting the funding > together to put it all together.
> The problem seems to be that there is nobody driving this project > now. We get close to something, then people get burnt out or we can't > get the cash required, people drop off--and then a few months later it > starts from scratch again.
> I think we know the parameters that will work, we just need somebody > to stay on the project and see it to completion. Perhaps if we had > people pledge money and knew it was there we could get the space set > up.
> I would be willing to pledge some cash. Who else would as well?
There's been a lot of discussion and exploration of potential models over time -- see here for a gateway to collected knowledge and communication channels:
Ultimately I think, as John says, it mostly comes down to a few people being willing and able to commit to focused leadership and bootstrapping some funding. A community-operated space is a great ideal to aspire to, but I think we'll talk in circles until someone (or a few) are willing to take on substantial financial responsibility and thus be the guiding voices.
It's been suggested, and I think it makes a lot of sense, that something like a three-story shop house with an Internet cafe or something of that sort on the bottom floor could help a lot with cash flow and sustainability, Thai staffing requirements for a business, etc.. Food for thought for someone who might have the gumption to blaze a trail.
Cool on the laser cutter can you send through how much you paid and from where .. its the one thing we've been dreaming of. I found the 40w co2 lasers but not a decent priced full system other than the USA.
Stefan Hristu <roman...@gmail.com> wrote: >Like I said, I would be glad to contribute cash or any other help, as >long >as we have a direction and achievable goals. Unfortunately I cannot >stay in >BKK for very long (though I am trying to be here more, I go home on dec >18) >so we would need some local leadership that can act on the groups' >behalf. >I will also say, that if you need/want more gadgets to hack on, most >makerspaces do very well with makerbots and laser cutters (actually the >laser cutter we got from china for AMT has been a huge success and has >attracted membership quite a bit). I would also be happy to contribute >to >equipment or send stuff from cali if needed. Raspberry pi's anyone?
>I'm not very familiar with rules and regulations around here nor do I >have >much of a grasp of the thai language, so the help I can offer is mostly >monetary and to act as "peanut gallery"/moral support :)
>I would think with the few million people living in BKK a hackerspace >is >well due :) and I applaud the efforts so far!
>Stefan
>On Tuesday, December 6, 2011, JFXBerns <jfxbe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> We have mounted several attempts to get a permanent location set up >> for Hackerspace Bangkok, but the the issue has come down to finding a >> good space, in a convenient location and then getting the funding >> together to put it all together.
>> The problem seems to be that there is nobody driving this project >> now. We get close to something, then people get burnt out or we >can't >> get the cash required, people drop off--and then a few months later >it >> starts from scratch again.
>> I think we know the parameters that will work, we just need somebody >> to stay on the project and see it to completion. Perhaps if we had >> people pledge money and knew it was there we could get the space set >> up.
>> I would be willing to pledge some cash. Who else would as well?
-- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Mitch Altman helped us kick off and they doing hackers on a plane again, ill bring it up ay the board meeting tonite to see if people on the board can help
Ches Martin <c...@nausicaamedia.com> wrote: >There's been a lot of discussion and exploration of potential models >over >time -- see here for a gateway to collected knowledge and communication
>Ultimately I think, as John says, it mostly comes down to a few people >being willing and able to commit to focused leadership and >bootstrapping >some funding. A community-operated space is a great ideal to aspire to, >but >I think we'll talk in circles until someone (or a few) are willing to >take >on substantial financial responsibility and thus be the guiding voices.
>It's been suggested, and I think it makes a lot of sense, that >something >like a three-story shop house with an Internet cafe or something of >that >sort on the bottom floor could help a lot with cash flow and >sustainability, Thai staffing requirements for a business, etc.. Food >for >thought for someone who might have the gumption to blaze a trail.
-- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
We got ours through xyztech or something like that. They resell co2 lasers from china in the usa. We paid 5000 US plus a delivery and taxes, probably around 6000 US. You can check it out here: http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Laser_Cutter
It was a small group of us that pitched in cash for the purchase and in return we get free time on the cutter. So far it has worked very well, right out of the box. The control software is not fancy, but it does the job.
Stefan
On Tuesday, December 6, 2011, P...@chaos-studio.com <p...@chaos-studio.com> wrote:
> Cool on the laser cutter can you send through how much you paid and from
where .. its the one thing we've been dreaming of. I found the 40w co2 lasers but not a decent priced full system other than the USA.
>>Like I said, I would be glad to contribute cash or any other help, as >>long >>as we have a direction and achievable goals. Unfortunately I cannot >>stay in >>BKK for very long (though I am trying to be here more, I go home on dec >>18) >>so we would need some local leadership that can act on the groups' >>behalf. >>I will also say, that if you need/want more gadgets to hack on, most >>makerspaces do very well with makerbots and laser cutters (actually the >>laser cutter we got from china for AMT has been a huge success and has >>attracted membership quite a bit). I would also be happy to contribute >>to >>equipment or send stuff from cali if needed. Raspberry pi's anyone?
>>I'm not very familiar with rules and regulations around here nor do I >>have >>much of a grasp of the thai language, so the help I can offer is mostly >>monetary and to act as "peanut gallery"/moral support :)
>>I would think with the few million people living in BKK a hackerspace >>is >>well due :) and I applaud the efforts so far!
>>Stefan
>>On Tuesday, December 6, 2011, JFXBerns <jfxbe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> We have mounted several attempts to get a permanent location set up >>> for Hackerspace Bangkok, but the the issue has come down to finding a >>> good space, in a convenient location and then getting the funding >>> together to put it all together.
>>> The problem seems to be that there is nobody driving this project >>> now. We get close to something, then people get burnt out or we >>can't >>> get the cash required, people drop off--and then a few months later >>it >>> starts from scratch again.
>>> I think we know the parameters that will work, we just need somebody >>> to stay on the project and see it to completion. Perhaps if we had >>> people pledge money and knew it was there we could get the space set >>> up.
>>> I would be willing to pledge some cash. Who else would as well?
> -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Last weeks board meeting was as interesting as most of us had expected, i did bring it up at the meeting, while we've been working on a hackerspace in the box with several other hackerspaces the board was direct in that the mission to spread hackerspaces was so far for China (given resources available).
Two options did come up..
Option 1: Someone to come over to shanghai for a month (shanghai has an awesome couch surfing community, plus other members would help out with accommodation where possible) while we migrate to what hopes to be a successful stable future.
Option 2: Is for one of the founders to be financially supported to go to Thailand to start a new mission in Bangkok, basically you'd need some company backing it if this was ever an option, but you do need someone or two dedicated to it who can network quickly.
i'm still coming over and can share information in person, can do a presentation if there was a larger group.
> Mitch Altman helped us kick off and they doing hackers on a plane again, ill bring it up ay the board meeting tonite to see if people on the board can help
>> There's been a lot of discussion and exploration of potential models >> over >> time -- see here for a gateway to collected knowledge and communication
>> Ultimately I think, as John says, it mostly comes down to a few people >> being willing and able to commit to focused leadership and >> bootstrapping >> some funding. A community-operated space is a great ideal to aspire to, >> but >> I think we'll talk in circles until someone (or a few) are willing to >> take >> on substantial financial responsibility and thus be the guiding voices.
>> It's been suggested, and I think it makes a lot of sense, that >> something >> like a three-story shop house with an Internet cafe or something of >> that >> sort on the bottom floor could help a lot with cash flow and >> sustainability, Thai staffing requirements for a business, etc.. Food >> for >> thought for someone who might have the gumption to blaze a trail.
Gut feeling: something based from Bangkok would be more successful. Get the local spirit and network. I think it's more efficient to move this thread to the Facebook group. Discussions there seem to be more active and involve more people.
